Hurry up and get inside, anon, we're hiding in here from the rest of the AAApostersCome discuss your favorite indie games
what do you have for me in that bin oh great oracle
>>730801824define "indie"For me, "indie" is a videogame made by less than 15 people, for little to no money.For example: Alisa is an indie game, Silksong is not.
>>730802620So once an independent developer has a success of any large measure they're no longer indie?
>>730802620Imo indie is a game that is "independent" of any large corporation or studio, what is defined is large is debatable but basically anything that didn't have the preexisting status of being established can start qualifyingReally it's on a case by case basis, if you can't 'feel' it ya won't get it>>730802782An independent dev's work is still indie if it was indie when they made it, if a guy makes Shitcunt The Warrior 1 in his basement and then goes working for a large studio with a preexisting standing in the industry and makes Shitcunt The Warrior 2, that doesn't make Shitcunt The Warrior 1 stop being indie
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>>730802990Yes yes Fygoon that's grea- Look, I think I see the nonce police!
>>730801824quick, /v/, get in!
Waiting for Pyschopomp 2
>>730803062Finally getting Kannafag and the creeps in the Philippines, I hope?
>>730801824>dumpster diverThe cleanest steam next fest poster
>>730803247What gaem?
>>730802620this is why indie is such a retarded title cause no one can define it and you have this retard saying >NOOOOO YOU CAN'T MAKE ANY MONEY FROM YOUR GAME IF IT GET POPULAR IT NOT INDIE
>>730802962I was focused on Silksong not qualifying as indie but I'm also under the assumption Hollow Knight was made by three people or something for not a lot of money and Silksong was also made by three people but for a lot of money cause Hollow Knight did so well. I may be confusing my indie dev studios though and be completely wrong about all that.
>>730803450Indie has always been a colloquial term that everyone sorta just "gets"Do we not see the irony in trying to concretely and legally define a casual term? It's like asking what's yellow, yeah some yellow things look a little orange and some yellow things look a little greenish, but if you come up to me and show me something purple and say shit's yellow you're outta your mind
>>730803496I don't think popularity should necessarily qualify something as not indie, look at the way it is in the music sphere, indie bands are still indie even if they have a big underground scene and everyone who already loves them awaits the next album so yeah they got guaranteed sales and don't gotta claw their way to the top but they're still INDEPENDANT of the industry, that's what indie meansBy this metric however I think no indie should ever qualify for an inside industry award, a best-indie award in an industry dependent award show is a normie trap
>>730801824Hytale just came out and its easily the best game I've played in the last 4 years.
>>730803381Of The Devil. Ace attorney but cyberpunk. Artstyle is like ryukishi, FKMT nasu's art levels of weird (but western) however you get used to it quick. Do not watch any trailer or promotional material, they spoil some good twist(s) about the game. Just download the free demo (episode 0) and play it blindAlso it's episodic. Currently we're at episode 2 (3 episodes are out right now including the demo, devs are planning 5-6 eps total)
>>730802990i don't know why you spam this shit it looks like garbage AND it's fucking vaporware
>>730803807>Referring to something as "It's like X but Y"Kek I'm gonna be honest with you buddy that's the sorta thing that'll usually make me turn around 720 degrees and walk the other wayBut ok, I'll check it out, thanks
>>730804035It's the easiest way I found to describe the game. It's not really exactly like ace attorney but it's easier to type that instead of "you play as a very cynical defense attorney in a cyberpunk setting where you deal firsthand with advanced levels of corruption, surveillance state" etcT.phonepostingAlso I'm the kind that actually seeks out fangames and derivatives, I don't really care much about le originality. A good concept is a good concept, what matters is execution imo
WHERE ARE ALL THE INDIE CLASSIC PIXEL ART GAME STYLE POINT N CLICKIES WITH THE OLD KINDA HUMOR AND THE THING THEY DO WHERE EVERY THING IN THE BACKGROUND DOES A SILLY ANIMATION WHEN YOU CLICK IT YOU CAN'T TELL ME NOT A SINGLE NIGGA WENT AND MADE SOMETHING LIKE THAT
>>730804443I mean the S&M was made by fucking lucasarts not one guy
>>730804443>old kinda humorThankfully the genre moved past referencing shitty 90s media as vehicle for humor.
>>730803153Wait, that mf stole Xenogears textures?
>>730802962What if it starts with three people but ends with 30 because the three people managed to get funding? Its still resting on three people and for me thats still indie
>>730802620>for little to no money.What a colossal faggot.
>>730801824my favorite indie game is my gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBpc2dxC7iA
>>730805295That's not even close to what I said
>>730801824Orbs
>>730806074What is this, the new porn addiction introduction game for 14 year olds, ala Sprunky?
>>730806050Read the OP
>>730806135considering nobody played it I doubt it
>>730806251Yeah, I said I want some indie dev to create games like that
>>730806316And I'm saying thats hard as hell for a solo dev
>>730802990>>730803995Can someone explain this guy? Why does he spam his poorly modeled diaperfetish? I swear the amateur game dev general is a mental asylum nowadays.
>>730806438No you're not, we both know damn well you misread my post thinking I called Sam and Max an indie and now we're just dragging this out for no reason
>>730806450Some people are born with a severe genetic defect called "being an annoying attention fag" welcome to the web
>>730802782that is correct
>>730806507I didn't but whatever helps you sleep at night
>>730806135call me crazy and i'll call you right, but does anyone else notice that there's a sort of "e-toddler sexuality" to a lot of internet media nowadays, whether it's directed at kids or adults, that feels distinct to the sort of more mature and naughty sexual display you'd see in a cartoon intended for adults back in the day, made by and for sexually healthy adults? like an e-girl with all her neon lights gyrating on screen with her tongue out or a basic default simply shaped and colored bright pastel roblox avatar doing an ahegao, all feel so different than something like pic rel for example but i can't fully put my finger on how or why, it feels less like it's trying to hit preexisting cues found in a sexually developed mind, and more like they're trying to hypnotize the viewer with new triggers
>>730806135whats the deal with sprunki
>>730806135It's basically mario galaxy's tile puzzles, but made into an entire game and it's fucking fun.Also not porn unfortunately.
>>730804443Out Of OrderWhich is extremely old so maybe doesn't prove anything, but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.
>>730806852Media is a reflection of culture as well as its steering wheel. As businesses spent years doing market and psychology research to find a perfect attention grabbing image for a new dish soap or a brand of beer, those images slowly leak into other forms of media and become new norms to the public. Not too dissimilar to how ebonics now became a common way of speech.What we have now is mostly optimized, mathematically perfected images made to elicit a response from the greatest number of people with highest probability. You can say that corporate manipulation was absorbed into the culture at large, becoming inseparable part of it. But guess it has always been like that to some extent.Anyway, Touhou Dystopian is pretty fun, if somewhat jank.
>>730802620You're fucking dumb, genuinely.Indie means independently published.
Technically not indie but the newest Zeno Clash game is one of the best games I've played since 2010.I liked ZC1+2 and I expected a 10 year gap or however long to suck the creativity right out of the sequel and I was very wrong
>>730809539What you say is true, but I don't think it applies to what I meanthis stuff isn't necessarily corporate, in fact it's most often isn't, but I don't need to know that corporations will take over human desires and optimize them, I'm asking what it is that creates and evokes that feeling of gen-alpha style sexuality as opposed to something like, say, Betty Boop for exampleYou know when you look at "sexy" imagery for tweens on the internet and it's some simplistic ass round headed character with the basic lidded 'whore eyed' bouncing it's gigantic ass in a circle and doing these quick fortnite dance esque motions, THAT is what I think of when I think of that sort of sexual display, and wonder if anyone else has noticed and can pinpoint the exact difference between themLook at these two pics, they're both of sexy cartoon characters, they're both about as "lewd", but one screams "something cheeky your dad would watch" and the other "I've been fed pornography from a young age and now I have a Pavlovian reaction to this kind of image"
>>730809653that's the semantics. We're discussing more here.
>>730811897You're the only one that doesn't understand what indie means though.
>>730801824>into the trashwhat did he mean by this?
>>730812513Grandpapi thinks he's garbage aww he's my little trash boy I love my little trashcan manwife sat his ass in the dumpster depositing my babymilk he's so responsible I called his name and he peeked out like yes bby I'm here join me in the trash heap honeybun with his head over the side of the bin like a gopher my sexy baby trash gopher
For me it's Cave Story
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>>730810371What I meant to say is not that corporations are behind everything, but that the images we have now are optimized through a sort of cultural survival of the fittest. As for this case, with the internet accelerating exchange of information the new standards are quickly shaped and adopted, yesterday's extreme is today's norm, and so most modern imagery may seem ridiculous compared even to art made a decade ago as people constantly try to chase the new heights(or depths) to bring something new to the table.
>>730813698That absolutely has none to do with what I'm talking about, the things you say are generally right but this is not what I mean when I say I want to understand what it is that MAKES something this internet pornography addiction for e-kiddies flavor
>>730812905why would u type this out
>>730802620>define "indie"Not funded by Blackrock
>>730813525It's my home
>>730813796It's just a new standard. Can't say why, maybe because even toddlers are now exposed to the internet and thus are seen as a viable audience, maybe because people enjoy the idea of childish imagery gone mature, maybe because the internet is full of manchildren. If there's supply for it, there must be demand.
>>730815281Alright I'm starting to think I can't deliver my point to you here
>>730815321I think I finally got it. Can't quite pin it myself, but guess you can describe it as "extragged but inoffensive".
nuclear option is a mix of war thunder and ace combatvoin is a mix of diablo and dark souls, first person melee combatyet another zombie survivors is a solid 3D survivors clone
>>730809653>>730812230Ubisoft is an indie dev
>>730815934Idk if inoffensive is the right term, their expression of sexuality is so intense, Shadman's work is the best example of this sorta thingBut it lacks real sex appeal that comes from illustrating passion and beauty, it looks like if you tried "forcing" something unsexy to be sexy by hammering someone's brain into finding it hot, making it's oversized ass bounce at terminal velocity thinking if you go fast and hard enough you can eventually achieve sexyness by force by making it as in-your-face as possible, pushing the expression harder, adding a visual effect everywhere possible, just to achieve none of the elegance that a naturally delicately sexy female character can do without effort, that's why they can take a simple character like a shitty Roblox avatar and do the same thing to it, you can't express the yearning desire in a woman's look with a shitty Sprunki character whose face is two balls and a line, but you CAN give it massive hips and make it gyrate disgustingly
>>730816320Maybe inoffensive is not the right term, but there's a sort of infantile playfulness to it, making it look that "it's nothing serious". Fanservise in anime works by the same principles, endless bait and switch with accidents and misunderstandings, that sort of thing. It's sex but whoops, it totally isn't!
>>730816887It's really not, "sex but whoops, it totally isn't!" is what playful adult media used to be, see the patty-cake scene in Roger RabbitHinting at something sexual but in a covert wayHere it's like the opposite, it's SEX SEX SEX IN YOUR FACE IN YOUR FACE but there's nothing titillating that gives it that "thehee, this is erotic" feelIt comes off more like being visually raped, sex is happening but it's not sexy, just sexual, animalistic, vs the old's 'sexy, but we'll say it's not sex'
>>730817375Maybe the better comparison would be the way children's cartoons depict violence, when someone gets smashed on the head with a hammer and grows a huge bump or dies and immediately his ghost stands up and looks around in confusion, the ridiculousness of situation smoothes the harder undertones.
Bros where the fact is chapter 2
