Sf2 birthed a genre. Sf4 revived a genre. Sf3 gave us... parry slop?But the hipsters will tell you 3 is DA BEST
I played ONE Soul Caliber 2 tournament when I was sixteen, won second place and haven't touched a competitive fighting game since.
>>730806148>image ruined by watermarksshame
>>730806148Just ignore the 3 fags. Its just a vocal minority>>730806282Kind of based, soul calibur actually holds up as a game outside of just the fighting. A game needs more than just multiplayer, it needs content. I can cut old fighters some slack for that like eternal champions or primal rage, but nothing on ps1 or beyond has any excuse. If its on a disc you can fit a story in the game.
>>730806550Blame AI faggotry.
>>730806920I would say that if the gameplay is good enough, it can justify only having a little bit of content. But most fighting games are just glorified street fighter or mk or tekken clones. Smash bros melee actually was so good i think it wouldve held up even without all the extra modes -- but it also gave us those too which is why i think its the greatest fg of all time.
>>730806550>>730806950>blame ai for donation begging watermarkai can remove the watermark, ironically
>>730807068Well in melee no match ever feels the same. Yeah, youre getting your moneys worth even if you have to pay 70 bucks for it today. But itd take sleep fighter a whole ass collection to justify being worth 40 bucks tops. Hadoken spam gets old fast
art used to be cool but now it's all money money money sub to my patreon do not repost do not use for ai do not do not do not pls moneyin a way I'm very glad to have lived through the best of times when things were nice and people did cool things out of passion but it's also sad to see everything go to hell
>>730806148>Sf4 revived a genrewhy do capcomfags think fighting games died with SF3 just because they always conveniently ignore 3D fighters?
>>730807491True. Ironically, fighting games died as soon as sf cameback. 3d fell off so all we had for years was sf4 basically
>>7308061483 is the best.
>>730808603How?
>>730808603>block jump os invalidates oki>parry invalidates projectiles>air parry invalidates anti air>so theres no fundamentals. In an sf game. Great start.>every new character just wants to nyoom around the screen and convert to super>chun and yun invalidate the entire roster>yun can start his custom combo install and recharage it while combo movie ing you to death>chuns super is full screen and does nearly half health and you can combo into it off big buttons and combo off it for even more damage>every character is prefers to play in crmk range no exceptions>zoning is useless>if you eliminate the uns then the viable roster is just shotos and rushdowns>its so god damn boring>even if every character was viable all anyone WANTS to play is the shotos and chun because the characters are so unappealing in both character and moveset designI could go on. Sf3 is awful.
>>730809185Y-yeah but... muh graphics! Muh fightcade lobby! Muh heckin active scene of a dozen zoomers on the discordz! Muh parry moment 37!! DAIGOD!!! MUH ANIMATION,
The whole like... narrative of sf3 "starting off shit" and "becoming good" is fake and gay.Sf3 fags just want their boring ass game to have a story but there isnt one. It isnt a hidden gem, its just a forgettable dogshit game we all rightfully ignored. The game didnt BECOME GOOD suddenly when evo happened, the game didnt do fucking anything, one guy just showed off how broken it was thats it. Thats not cool. I can do the same thing in any broken piece of shit game, pick up a random childrens arena fighter guess what theres some goofy shit you can do who fucking cares. Nigga mashed forward whateverMuh hidden gem, muh grass roots fgc, muh updates saved the game... its all lies, lies to give the game a narrative. To mimic sf2 or sf4.But those games were genuine cultural phenomena. Which makes sf3 trannies seethe endlessly.
>>730809185>block jump can be pubished by delaying oki to catch prejump, just changes oki to being a timing mixup.>fireballs at fullscreen only ever had use in sf2 anyway, in 4 it gave people a free jump/slide/anti fireball special/super/ultra reaction>every (good) character in 4 wants an ultra conversion, every character wants cc in alpha 2 and 3, etc. etc. etc.>zoning just requires more consideration, instead of the mixup being not throwing the fireball>clearly has spent 0 time on fc where urien, makoto, and dudley have a ton of representation because of their bullshitchun and yun are bullshit, but you clearly dont actually understand 3s, like most brainlets
should I install SF6(100 gb btw)
>>730809629Nobody gives a shit about alpha
>>730809682Yes. Follow the pattern:Kuso1Kami2Kuso3Kami4Kuso5Kami6
>>730809629>ackshually, my game has fundamentals ...theyre just... more complicated!!!
>>730809629>chun and yun are bullshit, butYou wouldnt have to say this about a good game. If the game was good there wouldnt be a "but"
>>730809993I was gonna say 3s isnt that different from other street fighter games but the AI slop is pretty good indication of how retarded you actually are
>>730810062Every game has bullshit characters. st has o sagat and claw, sf4 had an obnxious top tier in every version, sfv entire update history is attempting to wrangle charcaters with obnoxious resets. 3s isnt special in this regard, the only difference is isntead of anti dp oki you need anti parry oki
>>730810109>3s isnt that different from other street fighter games
>>730810614just look up what a grappler jump is before saying shit like "parrys make anti air pointless)
>>730806148>Sf4 revived a genrethis is a meme
>>730810732>aa works on two unviable charactersWow ITS NOT KUSOGE THEN
>>730810226>Every game has bullshit characters.Given how 3S is supposed to be the perfect fighting game it should be be above such things.Two or three strong characters that invalidate the rest of the roster is something you should only see on inferior fighting games.
>>730810935any character, in any game, sf, kof, whatever, can jump at specific ranges to bait simple anti airs. All parry does is force the grounded player to consider doing more than rip a dp in closer ranges. maybe a normal cancelled into a special, or dashing under and forcing them to hold a defensive landing, etc. etc. etc. players that are actually good at these games know how to jump, even in games where parry isnt available. your actual complaint is "AA isnt a simple single-solution problem," which to me is a matter of taste, but importantly, ignorance.
>>730811264people who say 3s is perfect are dumb. i really like 3s' engine, but yeah the final product isnt a perfect competitive experience. i dont think thats really possible in any game with character/race/clan/class choices
So when are we getting Urien in SF6?
>>730809185You just described SF6, except replace Chun and Yun with Ken and and Bison or something. Also, add in F2P currency.
jump parry makes sf3 a 2/10 fighting game
>>730812110t. brainlet
>>730810983>>730806148>>730808487This is a cursed fandom indeed.
>>730811842We have to first ask how the illuminati fared. And for that we have to wait for... Alex
>>730806148I wish i could be like Chun Li...
>>7308061483 is the most fun one to play
>>730813109How?
the only reason i played sf3 was because it had urien
>>730813861Because he likes to skip neutral, skip fundies, tier whore and soijak at the animation
Me and my friends all laugh uncontrollably anytime someone has the audacity to say 3s is the best sf game. It literally killed the series for a decade. A3 and sf4 mog it so hard. Super turbo hasnt aged all that well but jesus 3s fucking sucks.
>>730813109>3s is the most fun one to play
>>730809629Wall of cope
>>730809607"It was shit but, but the updates fixed it" is not only an obvious cope -- its also the same cope sfv fags tried. Its the same cope cyber punk and no mans sky fans tried. Its not fooling anyone.
>>730806920This is one reason that I can appreciate titles like>BlazBlue series The story mode pretty much makes this a VN with fighting. >Granblue Fantasy Versus (presumably, not sure if this is accurate or not)>Dragon Ball FighterZ (ALMOST)The RPG board game mode was great but all they had to do was put all the new season pass characters into it with each update and add new story stuff! Sadly, it starts off strong but shits the bed because nothing after release is present really >Street Fighter 6 An excellent World Tour mode. Even SFV and IV did well with their Arcade/Story modes, but 6 is on another level.>Soul Calibur VI and many Soul Calibur titles in general Not just char creation, but between Edge Master mode with upgrades and unlocks for new gear (including secret) for each char and the overarching story plus character stories, SC did really well early on, its amazing so many other did not bother. Also, why we don't have a SCVII>Garou: City of the Wolves (maybe)Just got one of these but it appears to have some sort of progression mode as they show equip abilities and such. Not sure about KOFXV too. SNK games have normally not been too much more than the basics but maybe these are different? I really like Samurai Shodown too, but its arcade/story mode is pretty sparse sadly Maybe there are some other fighters with good story/campaign single player modes I'm forgetting.
>>730809993>take 2 from 7 to make 10 then add the remaining 5 to make 15
>>730806550hilarious considering op picture looks like a trace of AI or a trace of a human body.Third Strike and SF2 will always be legendary games. 4,5,6 are garbage and they will be immediately forgotten once the new slop comes out.
>>730821338Whats wrong with 4?
>>730823440Nothing, hes just a pixel fag
>>730821338>2 and 3 will always be legendary>4 5 and 6 are shit5 was arguably a step backwards but sf over all has just improved. 4 and 6 are much more complete and functional games, and competitively more more fair and honest. 4 and 6 have their share of bullshit, but if you think 2 and 3 are somehow special and perfect and better somehow, i dont think youre basing that on any criteria other than old good new bad.
Sf3 lost
>>730811264There's not such a thing as a perfect fighting game but there is such a thing as a fighting game that people play People play 3s.People play kof 2002Are these the best games of the series. Probably not, but people play them
Everybody arguing in this thread right now is bad at their respective fighting game. Go practice, shitter.
>>730825689It's amazing how they manage to squeeze woke shit into everything.
>>730825821Theres one bad player here. And the thread is all dix chads and 1 super butt hurt turd striker. Ill let you guess which one is the bad player here...
>>730809185>block jump os invalidates okibased and makes the game honest>parry invalidates projectileslike aegis reflector?>air parry invalidates anti airwhat is air-to-air? >so theres no fundamentals. In an sf game. Great start.dinky fireballs and wake up dp are "fundamentals" fucking lammo>every new character just wants to nyoom around the screen and convert to supername one outside of urien>chun and yun invalidate the entire rosterurien/akuma/ken>yun can start his custom combo install and recharage it while combo movie ing you to deaththis is gay i have nothing honestly>chuns super is full screen and does nearly half health and you can combo into it off big buttons and combo off it for even more damageher problem is high move speed and long normals chud this doesn't matter>every character is prefers to play in crmk range no exceptionsfootsies>zoning is uselessagain incredibly based>if you eliminate the uns then the viable roster is just shotos and rushdownsso its every other SF game>its so god damn boringwrong again child>even if every character was viable all anyone WANTS to play is the shotos and chun because the characters are so unappealing in both character and moveset designseethe loop meltdown at this point, every real nigga wants to play dudleygarou MOTW is also a better game
>>730826119>garou MOTW is also a better gameGlorified neo geo port of sf3. Its not as shit but theyre both awful
>>730808487no credit to the artist, as it should be
>>730829348Now just remove the two guys on the left and it's perfect
>>730825896?
>>730829446ran the image through grok, quality went to shit but the two guys got removed
>>730825693sf4 still has matchmaking but its more of a discord fighter than 3s is. i dont even think its worse itnjust has dogwater netcode and all the "esports" hype went to 5. all the arguments against 3s being a bad game just read like contraian sentiment just because 3s still has people playing it so its "cool" to hate. bunch of faggots
>this whole thread is SF3 IS... LE BADjesus christ
>>730808603It's fun in a casual setting. Granted just about every fighting game is better that way. But even on a casual level the game is annoying if you're looking for conventional Street Fighter. In some ways it's even worse on that level than SF6 is, which is frequently obnoxious for similar reasons.
>>730830132>Granted just about every fighting game is better that wayPlaying fighting games casually is so extremely boring it's unreal.
>>730830436That's the power of autism.
>>730825534Even if you think they're less balanced I can think of a number of reasons someone would prefer SF4 over SF6 or SF2 over any of them. My favorite is Hyper Fighting, even though I'm not good at it.
>>730807113Lmao you weren't joking. Thanks grok
>>730809185>parry invalidates projectiles lollmaostop talking about games you don't play
>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T ANTI AIR IN 3S THEY JUST PARRY
>>7308301183 lost
>>730806148>subscribesaar
>>730829348based
SF3 is the most fraudulent game in the series. The only other SF being this shit is Alpha 1.
>>730835526Yup
SSFIV:AE > SSIV > A2 > A3 > 6 > USFIV > IV > ST > HF > NC > CE > WW >>>> VCE > V > A1 > 3S > 2I > NGEverything ranked below ww is unplayable dogshit btw.
>>730835526Its not really broken, just boring. Boring small roster, uninspired mechanics, just kind of a meh game. So i guess in a way it kind of is the worst sf isnt it? Like, theres a reason to play sftmtg at least for novelty but a1 is just... like alpha 2 but with a worse roster and worse graphics.
>>730823754BRAP!!!
>>730836776No, a1 really was broken. Confirms were really easy and damage was really high thanks to magic series. Good show case of why anime mechanics dont belong in sf... or fighting games. They fixed all that in alpha 2, bringing the focus back to footsies with the individual moves mattering more than chaining hits together.
>>730836131>6 that high
>>7308061483 is. Are you proteus fagging by the way?
>>730806148>OP doesn’t know how to green text >>730806550Spbp
What exactly made USFIV so much worse? I missed out on SF4.