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>>730809897
BUT IT GETS BETTER

so you're wondering why you got to kill the basic skeleton in a few hits?
or are you wondering why your random interval blocking didn't work?

I don't think you're making the point you're trying to make here, but I don't expect your brown brain to figure that out anyways

>>730810308
If you can't see the problem then you're as retarded as the dev team.

>>730809897
paid mods will fix it

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All I'll say is, the dev is very open to gameplay change suggestions right now and have mentioned that combat is currently not balanced for all zones (ie, not challenging right now).
If you have a gripe, feel free to contact the dev.

>>730810372
For the sake of the argument, what actually is the problem?

>>730810372
>animations are fluid and pretty well telegraphed, enemies have different attack patterns
>feedback is great on both parts, you know when you hit and when you get hit and you know when you're the one fucking up when you do
I really don't see the problem, but I'm sure your galaxy brain can explain it to us, so go ahead

>>730809897
Now show Minecraft "combat"...

THEY SHILL IT. FOR FREE. FOR FREE

>>730809897
>>730810228
looks like Elder Scrolls and 10x better than roll around like a spastic retard.

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>>730810606
The animations are superfluous and add nothing to the combat, the direction the enemy (or player) swings has zero bearing on where the hit lands. Hit detection is also flakey at best, and block as an action draining stamina is legit retarded design.

>>730809897
This appeals to the Indian's sensibilities

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Hey OP.
What is your stance on the combat in Morrowind?

>>730810606
The animation design is from 10 years ago and the combat design is from 20

Its literally unc slop, this is the equivalent to making a UE5 remaster of Minecraft, it lacks any of the good qualities that made Minecraft fun or good

It looks like shit

>>730810720
>the animations add nothing to the combat
what the fuck am I reading, how do you have combat without animations, when do you plan on blocking if the enemy doesn't look like he's going to hit you

>the direction the enemy (or player) swings has zero bearing on where the hit lands
in all the videos you've sent so far, it all looks like the enemy gets hit when the weapon touches them, are you AI?

>blocking shouldn't consume stamina
holy shit

>>730810815
god's gift to man

>>730810815
Better than minecraft

>>730810863
>what the fuck am I reading, how do you have combat without animations, when do you plan on blocking if the enemy doesn't look like he's going to hit you
Try reading the rest of the sentence, or did you intentionally quote me out of context?
>in all the videos you've sent so far, it all looks like the enemy gets hit when the weapon touches them
Pay closer attention to when the skeleton hit the player in the OP webm
>>blocking shouldn't consume stamina
>holy shit
The action of blocking itself should not consume stamina, only a blocked attack should consume it.

Why does everything about this game just look like "minecraft but less polished" ?

>>730810815
which Hytale mod is this??

>>730811003
>Try reading the rest of the sentence, or did you intentionally quote me out of context?
nah, I don't think I should listen to the opinion on animation quality of a retard that can't even figure out something as simple as 'I should block when the enemy swings his weapon' and instead smash his right click like a monkey expecting it to work, and the stamina argument really shows how braindead you are, but that's expected out of anyone still defending minecraft combat in this day and age

>>730811019
>minecraft but less polished
minecraft is as barebones as it gets, what the fuck are you on about?

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it's just bad, i don't think you're going to get a webm from someone defending it because odds are they haven't actually played it, there's a reason practically everyone is playing charge dagger
the later zone mobs 100% have bugged attack timings, i refuse to believe fucking 110ms attack swings from big skeletons are normal

>>730811381
>look I can cheese my way around a game that just released in early access
You don't play that many games, do you

>>730810815
Peak, kino, truly a gold standard that all RPGs should strive for.
The masculine urge to gamble and roll dice is intrinsic to the RPG experience. Humanity yearns for the nat 20.

>>730811473
Just say you haven't played the game, man. Be honest for once in your life.

>>730811381
>endgame zone enemy is a reskin of the starter zone enemy
>doesn't even have any AI differences
This will save gaming...

>>730809897
atleast its not rollslop

>>730809897
I don't know how I feel about this game
>Minecraft is owned by Microslop and now the reactive shilling is happening
>Hypixel/Hytale are scheming MTXers who want an ever larger piece of the Minecraft pie
I think I'm just going to stay out of it, no matter who wins, everyone else loses

>>730811535
I'm not going to give you such a bad faith argument, no, you're clearly pushing an agenda here because... I don't know, I guess you're mad a game is popular or something, just another retarded autist whining and pissing their pants over something on the internet, but I'll still be making fun of you for not understanding basic shit or acting in such ways, that's all

>>730809897
It's better than minecraft's combat by a mile, but that's an incredibly low bar to clear.

>>730810372
the game didnt innovate and invent a new combat system therefore it sucks and everyone praising it are shills

>>730811727
>bad faith argument
See? No game webm, no screenshot, just random dismissive babbling.
If I posted an actual non-cheese fight, it would just be met with generic nitpicking like that guy who posted him killing almost every mob in the game, there's no winning goal here except the knowledge that I know I've played the game and you haven't showed any sign that you have.

You do not play games, you are just here to argue endlessly.

1st person melee will never work
>but... dark messiah...
it's a physics engine game, not "melee combat"
that's why it's good, it doesn't try to be some sort of "attack and run away" type game

>>730811891
>no game webm
You posted them and they all show that the combat's fine, if unfinished, which is expected from an early access, so, again, you're arguing with the wind and you're not convincing anyone, you're just acting like yet another buffoon on the internet and screaming at clouds

Anyone that played the game at this point understand these very simple facts, yet you seem to either be oblivious to them or you're being obtuse on purpose, which is sadly the most probable reason and probably because you feel personally assaulted that people compare this game to minecraft or something, idk, you're the retarded autist so you tell me where hytale touched you and how it made you feel

>>730812071
Tide games do first person melee well.

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>>730811381
>the minecraft killer

>>730812156
No, it plays like shit

>>730812224
I'll bet you don't even play the games, so your opinion doesn't really matter.

>>730811381
>the later zone mobs 100% have bugged attack timings
I doubt it, it's definitely intentional.
This game is primarily style over substance, their priority is to make you go "oooh" and "aaah" over everything, to have "le totally epic" moments to make everyone go crazy over.
It's supposed to LOOK good, it doesn't have to BE good, because looks is what will draw people in.

>look at the WEBM's
>it's generic first person combat shit you see in unity/unreal asset flips for 2 dollars
>shills defend it
Holy shit lmao

>>730809897
Do you really need to make 6 threads to seethe over the game?
You don't even change your posting style and regurgitate the same exact fucking shit

>>730811184
It's not even my webm but ok.

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>>730811473
>>look I can cheese my way around a game that just released in early access
If you're not doing dagger cheesing, this is the gameplay you're getting.
Does this look fun to ANYONE?

>>730811812
It looks like that terrible 'fluid animation' minecraft mod from a decade ago

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>>730812393
and there it is

>>730809897
>>730810228
Looks like baby's first action game.

>>730812493
I don't know why you even brought up minecraft, gotta be bait

>skyrim in minecraft
soulless garbage
they should have made king's field in minecraft

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>>730812376
buyer's remorse in a nutshell. Some of them spent 80 dollarydoos on the epic skin pack edition.

>>730812376
it looks like minecraft
remember minecraft anon

>>730812083
>unfinished
Why do you all use this cope to justify the game being an absolute piece of shit anyway? They had 8 years to implement their ideal gameplay, but spent most of that time on making shitty mods instead of working on the game itself, so I don't understand why you deny any of the game's problems with "buh early access thou".

>>730809897
>>730810228
Looks way better than Minecraft combat which was the bar it had to clear, there's a lot more visual feedback so you can tell you're actually doing something.

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What single player RPG has GOOD first person melee combat? Multiplayer games don't count because you're not fighting against NPCs. So far, I'm thinking of that one game where you can create slipper ice to make enemies fall to their death.

>>730811019
>Why does everything about this game just look like "minecraft but less polished" ?
It's a shitty clone.

>>730812436
Looks like Skyrim combat, and that game survived 2 decades and 25 re-releases.
This will do just fine.

>>730812691
if you believe that this is eight years of work, that's on you and that's your problem, though
you're just assuming that whatever is the general consensus is wrong, you're just coming up with some crazy theory that it was in fact in development all this time, and that this is definitely not exactly what it was said to be, a very early version of the game that hasn't been touched in years due to riot bullshittery, no, it must all be lies, this is what amounts to 8 years of work and thus isn't 'truly' early access and definitely is the final product that we're going to get

not really my problem, but again, I'll still be making fun of you for your lack of critical thinking

>>730812436
>two sword swings with you right in its face
>neither hit
Incredible

>>730809897
short range pistol with sword animation aka elder scrolls combat. yuck

>>730812789
darktide, tho it's technically multiplayer (but PVE), has probably the best first person melee system I've ever touched, dark messiah was the top before that but darktide is just way more modern (tho not as heavily involved 'physics', sadly)

>>730812829
Skyrim survived off of modding, not its combat, the very fact there are so many different combat mods is not flattering.

>>730812436
>lumbers around slowly like a colossus
>swings sword lightning fast
what the fuck

>>730811620
im pretty sure hytale doesn't have MTX

They are 1000000% expecting modders to make their game into something worth playing and then rug pulling with live service microtransaction crap

The game itself is fine. Looks like the typical Minecraft clone slop you’d see 10 years ago or so but that’s fine. The problem is the complete and utter savior mentality, both by the devs and the community. Acting like it’s some revolutionary piece of art that will kill Minecraft and change gaming forever. The audacity to say it’s not competing with Minecraft while throwing backhanded insults. It’s retarded, annoying, and awful.

>>730810720
So if I swung a sword at you, it would only connect if you were standing directly in front of me?

combat is 100% worst part of the game

>>730813017
>im pretty sure hytale doesn't have MTX
yet.
Gotta get the early access dollars before dropping the nuke.

The biggest mistake this game will make is taking the Mojang route and being some foundational groundwork for mods and other community driven content instead of hammering in as much content as possible. The devs want it to be a billion dollar ecosystem like Roblox.

>>730813075
it only hits if the target is within the reticle, the swing directions are purely visual and it's bizarre that some people seem to believe otherwise. The swings are just visual flair.

so just minecraft but parry slops?
is there rollslopping too?

>>730813037
TRUTH NUKE

>>730812376
Don't worry, the paid mods will fix this just like they'll fix the rest of the game

i will buy it when its on steam

>>730813037
says more about the current state of minecraft

>>730813017
They are selling outfits as "early-access supporter" tiers so the system is already in the game.

I'm unironically only in it for the opportunity of getting a mod and patreon out, the game itself is a shallow generic early access survival sandbox game.

>>730813023
They pretty much said as such.
>we'll be taking a 0% earnings share from servers and mods for the first two years
>something about creating a way to distribute mods so players don't "have any risks from other platforms"
>straight-up saying that they'll be adding MTX
>also asking server owners to "keep our premium skins in mine when creating skins for your server"
They're gonna do a rugpull and turn it into Minecraft Bedrock edition in two years.

>>730812892
>IT'S NOT THE DEVS' FAULT, IT WAS RIOT THAT BARGED INTO THEIR DISCORD SERVER AND DEMANDED THEY DROP THE GAME WITH 100 MODS
So you mean to tell me these poor, sorry little devs had absolutely no priority over what they had to focus on developing, and we're forced by riot into not making the combat good?

>>730809897
What's the appeal? It looks like a dogshit Minecraft rip-off.

>>730813243
Honestly in this day and age, there's no reason not to iterate on combat systems, the overhead on melee attacks having hitboxes and swings being functional is minimal enough now that it should be standard.

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>>730813037
>savior mentality
That is entirely the minecraft community's fault and I don't blame any indie dev for abusing it to kickstart their own game.

>>730812892
>if you believe that this is eight years of work
That's how long this game was in development, I don't care if the dev took a 5 year vacation in the middle of it, that's his problem

>minecraft clone has minecraft combat
You dont fucking say.

>>730809897
>its minecraft with a ton of mods that make it playable made vanilla so it doesn't conflict and run like total shit
great, wheres the problem here

>>730813537
>with 100 mods
Wait, is that what this is?
Are you mad that they paid some trannies to make mods for the game instead of making mods for minecraft?
What the fuck, this is even more retarded than I thought it was, holy fuck

>But the priority
Here's the argument you should've made; they could've/should've waited longer and polished the game more and added more content before releasing early access
If you knew anything about gamedeving, or even developping in general, you'd know that you can't just throw more devs at a problem to make it go away faster, this isn't how this works, this is 'how many niggers to change a lightbulb' yet again

>>730813737
And how is that your problem?
Whether the game took five or twenty or fourty years to be made, why would that matter to you?
If the game isn't worthy of your money, don't buy it, if it is, you buy it, why would the time it took them to dev something have any weight on whether you should buy it or not, what kind of mind fuckery is this

>>730811003
>The action of blocking itself should not consume stamina, only a blocked attack should consume it.
I don't even think the game looks good and I disagree. If you're trying to make blocking an inherently high-risk high-reward action, a stamina cost is a great way to do that.

>>730813869
The issue is there's ranged weapons in the game, so having a cost to use the block action (regardless of wether anything is blocked), just makes ranged the winning move by default.

>>730813953
>The issue is unrelated to the video or the post or point I made
So the actual problem is the fact that ranger weapons are overtuned?

>>730813953
Ah, okay, yeah, that's pretty gay.

>>730813860
>And how is that your problem?
>>730812892
>that's on you and that's your problem, though
Which is it
>why would the time it took them to dev something have any weight on whether you should buy it or not
Because this is an early access game, the quality and quantity of updates is one of the most important factors in whether an EA game is worth paying for or not. If this took the dev 8 years to make, then I don't expect this game to have more than one update per year or be finished this century

>>730810606
>>730810308
This isn't convincing me to try out your minecraft killer. Maybe dial down your passive-aggressiveness and try to sell the game on us without the vitriol.

>>730813860
All the mods that dropped with the game were made by pseudo-devs who often develop worthless bullshit on the side, I'm not saying that they should be working on Minecraft mods, but should have instead worked on the game they too are now a part of, but you knew this already didn't you? Keep trying to paint me as a schizo and soon your game will become popular.

>>730809897
yikes kikes

>>730813537
There's a lot of people being really misleading about shit, but:
>Riot was already funding the game's development
>game was already in development hell
>Simon sold the game to Riot because he wanted to focus on scamming children in Minecraft
>the existing developers decided to restart from scratch in a different engine
>devs that Riot hired on eventually changed the game's direction
>game went from the 4th Circle of Development Hell to the 9th
>Riot sees that there STILL hasn't been any progress since they first acquired it
>cancels the game since it's a bottomless money sink
>sells it back to Simon to recuperate some lost money
>Simon pushes out the 6 year old dev build using the decade of hype to gain sales
If the game was in development hell at all stages of development, it'll most likely continue to be in development hell.

>>730814025
Are you retarded?
We were talking about combat balance.

>>730812742
That bar should have been cleared a decade ago. The "minecraft killer" coming out in 2026.
slowpoke.jpg

>>730809897
what Minecraft mod is this?

>>730813243
Oh yeah, that's dogshit. Fair enough.

>>730809897
I'll play it if someone ports gregtech and create into it

>>730809897
This gameplay is unironically fire Fr fr

>>730813243
>single point raycast melee
>in this day and age
Really pushing the technology, huh?

>>730814221
I find the main dev's idea that the game will be complete in only two years retarded as fuck, if the game could be easily saved in that short amount of time then why not finish spending a decade on it?

>>730811381
>hp damage in an action game
You failed as an action game if you need numbers. Might as well just embrace that you can't make an action game and just make an RPG. The autists that like seeing big numbers would prefer that anyways.

>>730811375
>proud of living on /v/ so much that he can spot the dupes
go take a shower

>>730813953
What? But I thought "charge dagger" was the winning strategy?

I like that every time I pop into one of these threads and peruse them, I see someone either excusing something with modding, or comparing the game to something that came out a quarter of a century ago.
Every time.

>>730814959
No, bow+arrow trumps everything right now but people can't be bothered crafting arrows.

>>730814748
It is retarded. Anyone who has experienced Early Access can tell you that JACK SHIT can happen over two years, the only exception is if your dev is a passionate autist somehow speedrunning gamedev.
If their target is Full Release in two years, either they're gonna go on a mad hiring spree, or what we've got right now is version 0.9.

buy a FUCKING ad

>>730810815
certifiably not souls slop combat and therefore completely inferior

>>730809897
Looks fine, I'd play this

>>730810720
>>730810228
>>730809897
>the same people who shat on Witcher 3 combat will praise this
this board is a fucking meme

>>730815501
i shit on TW3 for being an action adventure game that people treat like an rpg

>>730815501
I'd take TW3's combat over this, honestly

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What would be good combat? The silly stuff from DMC or Ninja Gaiden? Roll slop like Elden Ring?

I take a simple button smasher over some combo bullet sponges with retarded visuals.

>>730815253
why do people treat souls slop as like the pinnicle of combat?? wtf?

Why does combat have to be this complex thing?

>>730815556
see in TW3 you can do sword dancing which is cool

>>730813243
That doesnt seem to be true at all. Heck one of the first clips i saw of hytale was someone accidently murdering a chicken while trying to fight a skeleton, and all sorts of enviorment objects get broken as you swing your sword around.

>>730810815
1st person melee combat is so fucking stupid.

>>730815853
>That doesnt seem to be true at all. Heck one of the first clips i saw
nigga I've played the game, I am telling you bluntly that is how it works.

>>730812986
>Skyrim survived off of modding
The overwhelming majority of people dont use mods

>>730810863
>how do you have combat without animations
Dwarf Fortess.

>>730815924
The only people playing skyrim these days mod the fuck out of it.
>but the achievements
There is literally a mod that turns achievements back on for modded games.

>>730815781
ask the creators of all the hytale combat threads today

>>730815590
It'd be neat if it were hitbox-based with damage modifiers based on when it hit during the swing animation.

>>730812986
good thing one of this games biggest selling points is that it has a modding api

>>730809897
Numalerule devs EXPOSED and SQUEALING like PIGS that their 11 YEARS IN MAKING MASTERPIECE is just another MINECRAFT CLONE with WORSE gameplay than most MINECRAFT MODS.

>hold block, attack 2 or 3 times, hold block, attack 2 or 3 times, hold block...
Yawn, I already did that back in the Oblivion days

>>730815159
I really don't understand why there are people who genuinely believe the game has any chance when they haven't even finished their roadmap for the game yet, you just know two years from now they're gonna drop a "sorry gamers, we'll be delaying the full version of the game by at least x more years" and continue the early access bullshit.

>>730815910
Ive played the game and frequently break underbrush and debris near where im fighting.

>>730815590
Directional like Mount & Blade.

>>730809897
It's a fucking minecraft rip-off, combat is not the focus, what the fuck did you want? sekiro?

>>730816510
It's the dark souls of minecraft

>>730813860
Fuck off, Simon. Buy an ad.

the charm of MC is how low fidelity it is. trying to strike a middle ground like this just makes it look bad.

>>730810815
It's fun as soon as you actually start hitting stuff, if you combine it with magic. Spell system in Morrowind allows you to do a lot of cool shenanigans, and together it results in a fairly enjoyable gameplay.

>>730815590
Roll Gaiden: DMC Turbo-Based Edition (includes Demifiend from SMT: Nocturne and Dante May Cry from Dante May Die).

>>730816317
>Sorry gamers, we'll be delaying the full version of the game by at least x more years"
More like they won't even acknowledge their previous promise or say something like "oh no, that was a guesstimate for how long until we start the road to full release!"
Anyway, what I'm expecting is the Early Access classic:
>a few updates in quick succession to fuel the "the Early Access is great, the devs update and fix things all the time!" claims that every single one has
>"Major" update that takes several months, fucks up a bunch of shit and makes controversial changes
>a confusingly long time in EA, mostly making unnecessary changes and rarely progressing their roadmap (half of it skipped)
>game finally hits Full Release/1.0 state, still full of W.I.P and COMING SOON shit, still full of unfixed bugs and glitches, and a price bump too (Full Release is to drive more, needed sales)
>continues to put out Early Access updates at a slow pace, with a 50/50 chance of putting out "the update that kills the game"

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>>730815843
>>730815556
>>730815554
The "sword dancing" in question

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>WHOOOOAAAA!? WHY DOES THIS LITERAL BABY GAME COPY OF OTHER POPULAR BABY GAMES MADE FOR BABIES... HAVE SHIT COMBAT!?!
Not beating those manchild allegations anytime soon /v/

>>730817151
man shut the fuck up. OH WOWI DARK SOULS IS SOOOO FUCKING MATURE!!!

FUCK OFF!

>we're at a point where game developers are releasing early-alpha-access games and cattle are eating it up
even when terraria got leaked it had at least two bosses, this shit officially released into early access and it has NONE

>>730811381
>that bunk stamina meter
Wtf is the point of a special attack costing 60 stamina when you can use it even if you only have 5 stamina remaining on the bar
This game is fucking embarrassing and anyone actively defending it is a brainless mutant desperate for minecraft 2.0

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>>730817195
KEK, BABYMAN, BABYMAN, BABYMAN!!!!

>>730817382
the king cannot be dethroned (notch)

>>730817432
oh yeah mature games are SO MATURE and not tell stories that an 11 year old can come up with. Fire emblem is way more hardcore with war shit than any fucking COD game.

>>730817485
Grow up, diaper wearer.

>>730817517
FUCK YOU

>>730817382
It feels like when games would give you a healthbar, but everything did exactly 33%, 66%, or 100% of your health in damage/healing, rendering it completely moot.

>>730817517
damn since when did you lose your inner child? adult things are shit most of the time.

>>730812789
>first person melee combat
none

>>730809897
hytale more like hytale it out of there

>>730817554
LMAOOOOOO YOU MAD AS FUCK! MOVE OUT OF YOUR MOTHER'S BASEMENT YOU FUCKING LOOOSER!!!

>>730811381
What I find annoying seeing in these videos is that the player pussies away and goes back to attack. Some enemies should dash and pursue the player to punish them to keep the flow of combat.

>>730809897
That's just basic Oblivion-level combat.

>>730811381
This is a great example of why back peddle should never have the same movement speed as forward motion
There is no draw backs to kiting and absolutely nothing ever has the ability to slow you down to prevent you from doing it making gameplay utterly meaningless when you can just kite the whole fucking time
Even fromshit suffers from this problem

So uhhh how does it compare to vintage story?

>>730817660
maybe I would if the jew economy wasn't completely fucked

>>730817803
I'm sure it'll obtain it's fair share of busy work autism simulator mods in due time. Just be patient.

>>730811381
>i don't think you're going to get a webm from someone defending it because odds are they haven't actually played it,
No shit, all of the shillposts from yesterday were reposting images and videos from Reddit and Twitter.

>>730815906
got dead island 2 on sale for 6 bucks its melee combat is pretty good. Although zombie melee combat is different to normal human combat

>>730817836
>Blames the world for his problems
You are literally mentally twelve years old.

>>730817803
It's complete babyshit.
Now let us sit atop our ivory tower and laugh at the peasants playing Oblivion with blocks.

So did this game hit the mark or should I keep working on my own terraria inspired Minecraft clone?

>>730817930
well fucking duh, I LIVE IN THE FUCKING WORLD OF COURSE IM GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH IT. I SHOULD JUST ACCEPT THE PEDO JEW ECONOMY???? FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>730818070
I sincerely hope you're being facetious with these posts.

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>>730812789
Any VR game

>>730817064
are you retarded?

>>730817879
I got it from Tim and it was just a button masher with a dedicated dodge button (I think there was a parry too but I never used it). It's serviceable, mostly because the gore is great, but it quickly becomes repetetive and by the end I was too tired of it to play the DLC

>>730810815
Bullshit video. The PC's stamina should deplete fast and its health even faster because these two fucks have high weapon proficiency and barely miss any hit. It reeks of God mod by a disingenuous faggot.

>>730812789
>RPG
None.
The only games with good first person melee combat are the ones where that is their entire shtick. Closest you'll get to an RPG is Dark Messiah but I don't really count that. Darktide has good first person combat, but that's no an RPG either

>>730817696
The problem is that actually fighting these mobs fairly is a fucking menace, most of the attacks come out without any warmup animation so you're basically forced into statchecking them with attack>defend>attack>defend repeats before you run out of energy.
I think to this day there's only one webm of someone fighting the fucking frogs with melee because they're ranged and you can't charge cheese them so everyone just kills them with a bow or ignores them.

>>730818134
I love when kids go to /pol/ before coming here and they're 100% full on 1488 sieg heilers ready to confront the genocidal ZOG... But first they'll play some kid games.

>>730818134
well unlike you im not some brainless zombie who accepts the pedo jew government

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>>730818387
Kek

>>730818387
kid games and kid stuff in general can be based. What are you some fucking anti natalist? pro choice fucker?

>>730818185
he preordered Hytale, of course he is

The combat, while utterly barebones, is the only thing this game has over Minecraft at the moment.

>>730809897
>spamming block
For what purpose?

>>730809897
lmao this looks like mobile combat

>>730818387
you have your head too far up your ass to ever know the difference between escapism and reality in the first place

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>>730809897
>>730810228
>posts videos of perfectly fine combat
>fails to elaborate
>leaves to make 5 more threads about it

>>730812789
Dark Messiah

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Is there seriously no controller support for this? That's so fucking ass

>>730819404
Controllers are for platformers and racers.

>>730810815
THIS GAMEPLAY FIREEEE

>>730809897
I don't get the hype for this game

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>>730819404
>controller support
you have to go back

>>730820526
I get the hype, but i dont get the hate.
Hytale is a neat piece of vaporware.
I dont get why half of /v/ is clowning on it.

>>730810815
>brings up 20+ year old game
if I buy a phone for 300$ that knows as much as a nokia3310 then the problem is not the old nokia

>>730809897
Wow it’s fucking minecraft.

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>>730809897
>>730810228
Looks like average fps melee combat

>>730809897
looks way better than minecrap. thanks op I’ll be buying this because do your efforts

>>730810703
>10x better than roll around like a spastic retard
yeah circling around like a spastic retard is so much better

>>730821064
It is, however.

>>730810635
Literally the same with less spamming.

>>730821064
You're not meant to roll frantically in Souls games, you'll run out of stamina and die. You are however meant to spam the attack button in Elder Scrolls as there is no negative to it

>>730815906
Condemned Criminal Origins did it well

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>every webm posted that isn't taken from reddit or /vg/ is someone shitting on the game
wtf /v/ really hates video games???

>>730809897
damn the skeleton got pwnd

>>730821638
We dont play videogames what do you expect?

Why is /v/ being so hard toward a early access cheap game? Doing first person melee combat is extremely hard. I haven't seen any AAA game doing it melee combat properly. Looks a lot better than Cyberpunk 2077's melee combat and that has a budget of 300M.

>>730815906
Chivalry 2 was fun...

>>730821434
>You're not meant to roll frantically in Souls games
Except soulsKEKS despise the only game in the series that doesn't facilitate rolling around frantically

>>730822051
I've seen solodevs do better first person melee.

>>730811003
>Pay closer attention to when the skeleton hit the player in the OP webm
Those all look like valid hits though.

>>730822167
Oh nvm, you're a brown that can't read. Apologies patesh

>>730822370
Give me examples then.

>>730809897
hytale trannies are never living this flop down

>>730822495
Voin's is pretty cool. It's physics-hitbox based and feels really nice when you can cleave through multiple enemies in one blow.

>>730813243
It's 2026 and games still do this. Lmao.

>two handed maces have directional attacks
>directional attacks don't fucking do anything special
>it's the only weapon type that has this
but why

For all the animation flash this is less interesting mechanically than Minecraft’s crit system

>>730821434
>DS3
>ER

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>>730818387
Heh

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Please stop criticizing the paid early access game with different edition tiers like it's AAA. They're gonna fix it, okay?

>>730822914
There's bigger things to criticize than functioning combat.

>>730822629
Probably started as a proof of concept to play with directional attacks as a concept.

>>730809897
wtf is this game ? so its literally just minecraft why would anyone buy it

This is the game that has paid twitch streamers to play it all day so the kids will talk about it, yes.

>>730822914
if they have money to pay streamers, they have money to make a proper game

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>>730818749
the movement system is leagues ahead of minecraft thoughbeit
>auto step single blocks
>can jump over two blocks
>can vault up to 4 block walls
>no hunger mechanic slowing you down
makes things alot easier for both exploring and building

>>730823024
You mean every game release for the last ten years?

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>>730818387
/pol/ unequivocally BTFO

>>730823078
>auto step single blocks
I could swear Minecraft added that in an update.
I fucking love mantling though.

>>730809897
Its literally elder scrolls combat and thats fine for the kind of game its trying to be, one not focused on exclusively combat. Its leagues more enjoyable than Minecraft's retarded "combat"
>click
>do damage
>if you dont wait for the retarded long cool down you wont do enough damage even cumulatively to kill the enemy
Id much rather have animations play out and a couple extra moves that are simple. Also unlike fucking minecraft the enemies are built for this combat system. In minecraft enemies can damage you way faster and harder than you can damage them because they were designed for the original spam click combat. The worst part is jeetrock has the original combat and they still design enemies around spam clicking over their retarded 1.9 combat, something they promised to fix but still to this day havent.

>>730823181
>>730823078
auto stepping was added and its soulless
in some mod pack i played before they added it, had it but only when you aquired boots of speed or something

>>730823194
>>click
>>do damage
>>if you dont wait for the retarded long cool down you wont do enough damage even cumulatively to kill the enemy
but enough about Hytale's shitty stamina bar.

>>730823181
Minecraft has a bad version of the idea. An auto-jump system everyone turns off after 10 seconds of trying it.
Hytale's version is smoother.

>>730823078
yeah i can complain about a lot of things about this shite but the movement is nice
wish auto step didn't slow you down by 40% when going up a block but that's just nitpicking at this point

>>730823272
you can attack as much as you want with 0 stamina with no reduced damage
you just won't be able to block

>>730812508
>The Elder Scrolls
>action game
huh?

>>730823414
>you can attack as much as you want with 0 stamina with no reduced damage
This is false btw

>>730823272
stamina regens incredibly quickly and most mook enemies die before the bar reaches half, what exactly are you doing to have no stamina? It sounds like youre playing the game like a retard.

>>730823486
It sounds like you haven't left the first zone.

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alright vee, how come right look like shit but the left doesn't?

>>730823224
>but only when you aquired boots of speed or something
This is exactly the line of thinking that they are missing and why terraria comparisons are laughable

If you post about gameplay but offer no webms I'm going to assume you're just talking shit out of your ass, positive or negative.

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>>730823687
is mp4 ok?
the combat is straight ass btw

>>730823790
>but its not muh heckin fromsoft!!!!

>>730823849
I don't even like soulshit

>>730823078
Tbdesu the fact that the game comes with parcool baked into it is enough for me to like it. Now they just need to put in belly crawling so I can feel like a real cave diver.

>>730823589
Yeah I disagree with people calling Hytale "3D Terraria". Maybe one day it will be, but it doesn't have the signature boss fights and unique drops.
It's more like a good version of early Minecraft.

>>730823849
Who are you quoting? You literally asked for a webm, the anon provided you with one, then you just... made some random shit up in your head that no one even said? The fuck is wrong with you? Genuine question, what country are you from?

>>730823557
>high pixel density on extremely low fidelity model
>fucking gradients
>rounded textures on square model
>next to zero contrast
>too much smoothing
It's kinda like having high technical skill but low artistic skill. Good but bad.

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>>730823790
niggas were clowning on this dude for not spamming charge attacks but ironically it's the one SINGULAR mob that counters the dagger bounce cheese

I’m surprised how much this game leans towards Vintage Story than Terraria

I haven't seen a single webm posted that is positive yet. Is the game really that bad?

>>730823880
>>730824037
baited

>>730824253
It's just extremely unfinished, no clue why they released it in such a state.
I guess testing the waters for how early of any early access you can churn out before people say enough is enough?

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>Notch was supposed to make Dwarf Fortress in first person
>realized he couldn't finish the fucking game and sold to Microsoft
>Nu Mojang double downs on the adventure shit
>Minecraft clones miss the point and keep making adventure shit

>>730824253
Nah, it's ok.

>>730824253
It's telling when the only positive posts are:
>"dem grafix dough"
>"think of le potential"
>"I'm having a blast!"

>>730812985
Darktide still feels really floaty to me, but it's probably the best I've seen yeah.

>>730824372
adventure shit is more profitable and easier to make them complex simulation systems

>>730815590
Chivalry and Mountain Blade?

>>730824372
I really hope someone makes a minecolonies mod for it. I want to build a fantasy town filled with townspeople and adventurers. Probably won't happen though.

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>his game doesn't have Toribash level detailed combat controls
Pathetic! What, you don't want setting a single punch to take 5 minutes of your time?

>combat boils down to walk backwards and click

>>730824737
so just like daggerfall? GOTY

>>730809897
>early access game is.. LE BAD!!!
wwooow who would have guessed

>>730824770
>so just like daggerfall
Daggerfall is way better as you can slash directionally, in this game it's just click.

What is this? Did they finally make minecraft 2? Lol.

>>730823557
This looks mandatory

>>730824865
no one uses that

>>730824913
even worse its a minecraft mod for trannies made into a shitty game

>>730810720
try the mace

>>730824372
Speaking of which when was the last time they legitimately added something to the Minecraft? The combat update in 1.8/1.9 was a downgrade and that permanently shifted me away from the game as an active player to one week phase per year player.

>>730824268
?

>>730825440
The game got more bloat and caving is harder now. Nether is pretty neat although they replaced zombie pigmen for some fucking reason.

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this game doesnt even have a magic system yet and people are angry about the combat system not being revolutionary? a mordhau / chivalry like combat system can easily be modded in with the amount of freedom this game gives modders, that's the entire appeal.

>>730825624
Wait what? So the tomes, the mana pots and that stuff I saw in creative mode isn't implemented fully?

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just walk away bro

>>730825624
>"It's not Minecraft, it's 3D Terraria!"
>doesn't have a single one of Terraria's staples
>not even magic
Jesus Christ that comparison becomes stupider by the second

>>730824680
No grabbing?

>>730825624
>a mordhau / chivalry like combat system can easily be modded in
Why hasn't this been done in minecraft

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>>730824253
The game itself is just unfinished.
The combat is worse than Minecraft because it adds complexity but fails at actually making any of the additions work well in the slightest.
>>730825624
I actually checked this, but blocking is currently hardcoded into being full frontal, so not really unless you made some incredibly ghetto serverside entities that canceled attacks when hit.

>>730825874
did everybody forget what early access means? the founder admitted the game is awful, the game in its current state is a tech demo funded by people that can see the vision and want to support it.

>>730809897
So what is actually the appeal of this game? What does it do differently from minecraft or any other survival game?

>>730826142
>it's not Minecraft
>it's not 3D Terraria
>just stop asking questions and buy Cursebreaker already

>>730826207
Who are you quoting?

>>730825624
>Modding will fix it!
Like clockwork, here we go again. Great line of defense for a game in early alpha.

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>>730826142
>did everybody forget what early access means?
A worthless term that has been overused and abused so much that it has as much meaning as "literally"?
>the founder admitted the game is awful
Sounds like /v/ is agreeing with him, what's the big deal?

>>730825624
>think about the potential!
ok think about my potential purchase them

>>730826067
Because it filters almost everyone.
Go play Mordhau and Chivalry, even amongst it's player base the average person is awful at it. The only way the average player in these games gets a kill is through assists counting as kills and a 3v1 where they bum rush someone as a group.

>>730826513
damn sucks they can't have enemies that don't act like people that never stopped playing chivalry

>>730826513
Already played them

Hyruleal is straight fire FR FR ong bruh sheeeeh

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wtf they all hytailed it out of here!!

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>>730823557
atleast post the unedited version

>>730826142
>the founder admitted the game is awful
>but you're not allowed to call it awful
MAKE IT MAKE SENSE

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minecraft niggas really be like "yo just download better combat"

>>730815910
>nigga
Opinion disregarded. Permanently.

>>730809897
I legitimately don't get it. What's the big deal

>>730827334
It's not an opinion.

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>it doesn't need to look good
>it doesn't have to be cheaper
>it doesn't need to have a smarter AI
>it doesn't need to have a better combat system
WE ARE NOW HERE
>it doesn't need to have free mods
>it doesn't need to have a roadmap for the 2 years

>>730818387
>>730823128
jokes on you losers, I don't even play video games

>>730828024
wait this shit costs money?
BAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
ur srs?

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>>730828132
oh boy i have some news for you

So anyway, here's a non retarded criticism:
Durability mechanics serve no purpose, and "repair but lose 10% max durability" is basically a direct insult.

>>730809897
Why do zoomers love this Roblox shit?

>>730809897
It looks better than Minecraft combat though? Low bar but it's there.

is there a single game with good 1st person melee combat that isn't a pvp game? Dark Messiah doesn't count, that's just gimmicks.

>>730828361
>Dark Messiah doesn't count, that's just gimmicks.
That's incorrect.

I thought this was cancelled

>>730811381
>will by walking backwards
This was the problem with lunacid as well.

>>730809897
I'm so glad we don't have this boomer combat in games anymore.

>>730828198
>Durability mechanics serve no purpose
Dark Cloud 2's "break your weapon to make it stronger" mechanic is still unbeaten.

>>730828170
>we are more likely
>we will be fairer
>shareholders
I don't get it. How did people just make a game and release it for a price back in 2011 but now there always has to be a catch and future monetization plans? Minecraft was 13 dollars and it was just the game, and it was one of the most successful games of all time. Why is this guy so desperate to make tons of money so fast, am I missing something? It's literally just minecraft with smoother animations, there's no way this shit costed millions of dollars and demands heavy monetization immediately.

>>730828198
>Durability mechanics serve no purpose, and "repair but lose 10% max durability" is basically a direct insult.
It was the first thing I was annoyed by in the game.
People say mods will fix it
But I would rather the devs making a game have a vision for what they are doing and why
Repairing your equipment permanently making them worse in a feedback loop is nuts

>>730828170
>they can give for free and let users pick a price
Why didn't they do that?

>>730828886
please understand small indie company that needs money

>>730828886
>give for free and let users pick a price
So like those donation-supported open source projects that make about 5 dollars a year?

>>730828416
being able to cheese a braindead AI with slippy physics and death pits is not good combat

>>730828929
is that not what hypixel are?

>Just a day later Hytale has less viewers than Minecraft
It's over...

>>730828990
Okay don't do that then.

>>730828990
true, it's not good combat
it's the BEST combat

>>730828990
You can cheese the combat in any game with combat dumbass

>>730828990
that is soulful actually but the games still trash

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>>730828170
>I suspect that many mods will be free
It's over.

>>730809897
>Using the shitty humiliation ritual weapon instead of rushing a wooden workbench and making an axe or mace.

>>730828987
Yes, it's what they deserve

>>730809897
The combat is passable.
Very casual and not very skill based but at least you can block attacks and there is some timing and crowd control involved.
I certainly prefere this over trading blows games.
However that only applies after you get the axe or mace. Before getting the axe or mace it is 0/10 trash.

They should've waited until they had more content out. After barely two hours you've pretty much seen everything the game has to offer.

The import .obj and image files is pretty neat though.

>>730810228
>>730809897
I mean for a minecraft clone this looks pretty good in terms of combat. Games that allow you to do 100000 different things are never gonna be the best anything.
It won't have the best pure building (it is not modeling software)
It won't have the best comfy elements (it is not stardew valley)
It won't have the best combat
It won't have the best survival mechanics
However, the goal is to do all of them or as many of them better than Minecraft as possible.

Currently I'd say the game is more FUN than Minecraft, but its limited content, basically zero mods, and early access make it an inferior product currently but I am excited for its future.

>>730829943
>They should've waited until they had more content out.
everyone has been waiting for years m8.
people just want to see where the game is at right now.

>>730828198
>repair but lose 10% max durability
What the fuck, I'd expect that out of a fucking Korean MMO or something

>>730809897
So what are you supposed to do in this game?

>>730830543
>>730828198
>we want shit to break so players are forced to go out and keep gathering shit
>>but our players want to be able to repair their shit!
>fine, you can repair your shit I guess

>>730809897
Brown bricks

>>730828198
yeah. it is genuinely better to put your broken tools in the recycler and build new ones instead. Hope this is one of the first things they fix

>>730830619
>For only $0.99, you can buy a Hystical Repair Kit (Common Gear), which will fully repair all durability loss!

Can someone explain why everyone is playing this new Minecraft game