>>730812756
best game in a turd series is still a turd
blur is still yet to be topped by any kart racer

I disagree. 8 > DS > Double Dash > Wii > World > 64 > SNES > GBA

>>730812903
why does everyone hate super circuit
it's by far the best mk

>listen to the rainbow road music from world
>start crying

They could definitely salvage this game with DLC and more improvements

>>730813054
It's a GBA game.
No one wants to play a racer on the fucking GBA lol

>Acceleration is the only stat that matters
>Lightning in knock out tour
>One lap only on courses if you choose an intermission

yeah nah

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>less full tracks than 8D
>less battle modes than 8D
>Diddy Kong cut
>Kamek made into an item
>no actual reason to explore the open world
It will never be the best Mario Kart until these issues are fixed.

>>730813334
>primitive GBA can produce a superior gameplay experience to more advanced later titles
if nothing else, that at least deserves respect, not immediate dismissal

Knockout Tour is a worthless streamerslop mode

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the best is still wii because of the modding scene.

>>730813559
>primitive GBA can produce a superior gameplay experience to more advanced later titles
It can't though.
Super Circuit is inferior to every other Mario Kart except the SNES one.

>>730813315
I don’t think they’re making any dlc for this game. They would’ve announced it by now.

>>730813920
I still think they will. Open world shit just takes much longer to make

>>730813682
>the good stuff is tracks from actual games
>all the original tracks are fucking awful

>>730813850
in what ways other than graphics? it's got the best physics, best item/racing balance, coins actually matter because they are effectively your health, great tracks (i'm still mad at how they butchered cheese land, ribbon road and sky garden in 8), great music, good battle mode, even the racers all actually have unique stats and aren't just weight classes plus affinity for something or some lame overpowered item. and it's effectively got the entirety of nes game in it.

>>730814314
>great music
Not with that horrendous sound chip.

>>730814314
>and it's effectively got the entirety of nes game in it.
Can we stop using this as a positive for Super Circuit? They made the tracks easier and ruined the music.

>>730814375
they made it work. it still has the best rainbow road theme. and the best rainbow road to go with it.

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>has less tracks than base MK8D (transmission tracks dont count)
>open world bloat for literally no reason since theres nothing to find or do
>very little customization other than character skins and fucking stickers
>fucked up with removing the gravity shit and underwater sections limiting track design protentional even more
>music is forgettable despite it just all being remixes of old classic mario soundtracks
>forced to play transmission tracks online
>added only a few items that actually help but added 60 fucking food dishes that all do nothing other than for costumes and a boost
>first mario kart to be $80 and doesnt even fucking show its worth
>30 fps in splitscreen multiplayer in 2025
im not even a big sonic fag despite the gif i posted but after 100%ing mk world i tried crossworlds and got a lot more addicted to it

>>730814435
they had to slightly streamline the tracks because super circuit is faster than snes. something 8 didn't do when it added 200cc.

>>730812756
They need to add some content in future updates and then maybe.

>>730812756
8 DX is better

>>730814656
>slightly streamline
>all Thwomps removed

I dont think mario kart world is good at all. crossworlds and kirby air riders shit all over it. I try to find reasons to buy world used but I keep saying to myself its not worth it. when world came out literally everyone was shitting on it and they all make very valid points. it sold well because mario slop just like pokemon slop. I bought the dlc for 8 in spite for how shit it is. and whoever thought separating each costume as a character slot is beyond saving and should be shot

>>730814165
Now you know why there will never be a Mario Kart Maker.

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>people still unhappy with intermissions after all the updates
>less content than MK8 Deluxe despite the open world
>characters from 8 Deluxe cut because fuck you (really sucks because Kamek was finally in)
>DK and Pauline get jackshit in terms of costumes, Diddy gets cut despite having a new design too and showing up in other games
>Kirby Air Riders comes out with customization that shits all over MKW's retarded single sticker nonsense
The latter is especially bad because all you get for doing the crappy open world missions is fucking stickers.

Doofivirus likes it

>>730815260
Holy shit Donkey and Diddy Kong look so grotesque now. Why was the skin flap between Diddy's eyes needed?

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World feels bizarre to play. Mostly because of what they did to the ai.

>Rubber banding is now insane, the cpus are always on your ass
>24 racers makes it so you get triple green shells in 12th and being in the middle of the pack is an even more insane cluster fuck
>Every cup has a rival/unlockable/super ai that goes beyond rubber banding and starts to carrot on a stick you to an obvious, infuriating degree by literally speeding up to outpace a mushroom boost
>Only way to avoid this is by not tricking and just holding a at which point to ai just let's you win because it thinks your a baby

All this make couch co-op feel awful. There's too automatic adjusting in this game. Every action in this game causes the ai to react accordingly but not in a fun way since they can do things you can't.

All this is without even mentioning how boring the intermission tracks are or how much blander the tracks look compared to 8 due to them being in an open world that needs to be traversed from any angle.

The jumping is kinda cool though

>>730812756
Pretty much. Whether 3-lap rounds or A to B, I've had the most fun with World out of all the recent Mario Karts. I especially had a lot of fun trying to map out new cups and a 32-race endurance tour including all the courses.
>>730816495
>he can't beat the rival by playing his best
ngmi

>>730816979
Hello Doofivirus

>>730814638
>d.d...doesn't count!

>>730812756
True but /v/ doesn't actually play games so doesn't know how this game plays and instead just repeats "muh straight lines" because their favorite outragetuber told them too.

>>730817307
have (You) played this game?

>best new mode, knockout tour
>best animation
>best trick system
>more gameplay options on tracks
>best soundtrack
>an actual side mode to explore areas between tracks and do little missions
>a good battle mode from the start
MKW is fucking fantastic

>>730817630
>I like to watch my fav streamer do knockout tour with his friends its so epic and chaotic xD!

>>730812903
8>Wii>64>DS>World>Double Dash>Super Circuit>Super Mario Kart

>>730817630
and everyone seems to love playing knockout tour, it's so easy to get a match

>>730817127
Who?

Also, the "Hold A, don't trick" strategy against the computer is a trap in my opinion; playing the best you can is easier for getting gold.
>>730817724
>game is both fun to play and fun to watch
Best of both worlds.

looks like someone alerted the tendie livestock discord kek

>>730813920
My suspicion is that's why it's priced at $90. Their going to add more lands for "free" but keep the price the same.

>>730812903
For me: World > 7 > 8 > Wii > N64/Double Dash > DS > Super Circuit > Super

>>730813920
they're outright changing courses and adding new shit to them
seems like a long term update schedule before any DLC will happen

>>730813582
whats wrong with it?

>>730818146
Looks like someone's mad that people like Mario Kart World.

>>730817630
The fact that you can jump off the edge of some tracks and be allowed to bounce off walls and objects to trick corners and gaps makes this game infinitely better

>>730818570
>autistic Melee tier janky exploits that are borderline glitch abuse
>have to learn all of them or you can't compete
No thanks I prefer my racing games to be about racing

>>730818570
Charge jumping and wall/rail grinding unironically enhance Mario Kart driving a lot. They should definitely be new mainstay mechanics.

>>730818756
just go play bomb rush cyberfunk

>>730812756
In term of the way driving feels it's the best

>>730818732
>autistic Melee tier janky exploits that are borderline glitch abuse
the free roam literally has tutorial missions for them, they're built into the game. they even put coins in areas where they think you'll do it

The big problem with the mechanics is that outside of turboautistic applications like the Bowser's Castle skips, just driving straight along the road is faster. All the ziplines in intermissions or that part on DK Spaceport with the walls and the raised path in the middle? Nah, it's faster to just drive.

>>730818756
definitely a better gameplay addition than anti-gravity which was just a visual thing

>>730819086
worse, it was a development crutch for them to not have to bother about making tracks coherent
want an extra turn? add antigravity and make it go up

The time trials really show just how crazy some of the tricks can get to improve your time. Thank god for items like the lighting bolt to knock players doing some of these tricks.

>>730818968
That's fine, but the game-deciding shortcuts aren't the ones the game teaches you, but stuff like this: https://youtube.com/shorts/AZ47tAa_UXY
A lot of the time it's actually slower to go for rails or wall riding

>>730814314
>it's got the best physics
No.
>best item/racing balance
Not really.
>great tracks
That look and play better after being ported to later entries
> great music
Not really.
>good battle mode
Not the best though.
>racers all actually have unique stats and aren't just weight classes plus affinity for something
That's cool but personally prefer the weight class system.

>>730819324
it's the only mk that actually feels not on rails. and the heavy guys are actually a handful to handle for once, not just "we are the fastest but get fucked by items and mini turbos"
>That look and play better after being ported
no
>music
>Not really
it's not the best, mk consistently has good soundtrack, but it is impressive considering how little they got to work with.
>personally prefer
less variety over more variety? you might be majorly retarded, which is something i'd expect from a mayo kart player.

>>730812756
Oh yeah? What other Mario Karts are in its series?

Successfully nailing an All Cup path that works with the 32-Race setting is one of the best feelings:
1. Mario Bros. Circuit (3 Laps)
2. Mario Bros. Circuit > Crown City (Mushroom Cup/Second Section)
3. Crown City > Faraway Oasis
4. Faraway Oasis > Cheep Cheep Falls
5. Cheep Cheep Falls > Dandelion Depths
6. Dandelion Depths > Tour/Switch Sky-High Sundae
7. Tour/Switch Sky-High Sundae > DS DK Pass
8. DS DK Pass > Starview Peak
9. Starview Peak > 3DS Wario's Galleon/Wario Shipyard
10. 3DS Wario's Galleon/Wario Shipyard > GCN Peach Beach (2nd & 3rd Sections Only)
11. GCN Peach Beach > Salty Salty Speedway
12. Salty Salty Speedway > GCN Dino Dino Jungle
13. GCN Dino Dino Jungle > Great ? Block Ruins
14. Great ? Block Ruins > SNES Koopa Troopa Beach
15. SNES Koopa Troopa Beach > DK Spaceport
16. DK Spaceport > Crown City (Shell Cup/First Section Variant)
17. Crown City > Whistlestop Summit
18. Whistlestop Summit > DS Desert Hills (Reverse Variant)
19. DS Desert Hills > 3DS Shy Guy Bazaar
20. 3DS Shy Guy Bazaar > N64 Wario Stadium
21. N64 Wario Stadium > Bowser's Castle
22. Bowser's Castle > DS Airship Fortress
23. DS Airship Fortress > Dry Bones Burnout
24. Dry Bones Burnout > Boo Cinema
25. Boo Cinema > Acorn Heights
26. Acorn Heights > SNES Mario Circuit (All Circuits)
27. SNES Mario Circuit > Wii Toad's Factory
28. Wii Toad's Factory > N64 Choco Mountain
29. N64 Choco Mountain > Crown City (Third Section Variant)
30. Crown City > Wii Moo Moo Meadows
31. Wii Moo Moo Meadows > Peach Stadium (Special Cup Variant)
32. Peach Stadium > Rainbow Road

>>730820058
Hi Doofivirus

>>730812756
(You)

>>730814314
You're unironically right about everything other than the music. Super Circuit is fucking great and people only hate it because Mario Kart players are casual retards who hate the idea of a handling model that actually has some friction instead of being braindead easy retard shit.

>>730820198
Again, who?

>>730817221
>no arguments
seethe harder

>>730814375
Super Circuit has one of the best, if not THE best Bowser Circuit theme.

>>730819845
>less variety over more variety?
Modern Mario Kart literally has more variety though?
8 and World both have more characters and vehicles.

>>730821005
Visual Variety, sure, but the actual effects those characters and vehicles have on the gameplay is way less varied

>>730818732
>t. likes MKWii despite it being jank central

>>730821312
Lmao.

>>730821312
I wish this was true so people would actually play who they want.
But guess what. It's not true.
Competitive Mario kart is swoop and robhog central

>>730820417
Ok? I don't think you are giving these arguments in good faith, but:
>has less tracks than base MK8D (transmission tracks dont count)
Sure they do, and some tracks are actually four or two in one which means we actually have more tracks than usual, even if we don't count transmissions.
>open world bloat for literally no reason since theres nothing to find or do
Your P-Switch missions? Your ?-Mark Panels? Your Peach Medallions?
>very little customization other than character skins and fucking stickers
All it needs. With the large roster and huge amount of costumes between characters on top of whatever vehicle each individual wishes to use, you're pretty set.
>fucked up with removing the gravity shit and underwater sections limiting track design protentional even more
What World gained by introducing the Charge Jump, rails, and grindable walls is far more than what it lost by removing both anti-gravity and underwater racing, and I say that as someone who favors underwater racing over on-water racing.
>music is forgettable despite it just all being remixes of old classic mario soundtracks
Music is literally among some of the most memorable remixes in any Mario game. The Drifting Away remix is especially a treat when it pops up as I'm driving in Free Mode.
>forced to play transmission tracks online
If you choose an immediate interconnecting track, sure. Otherwise, it's up to the RNG.
>added only a few items that actually help but added 60 fucking food dishes that all do nothing other than for costumes and a boost
So standard item roster balancing and something with a more controlled loadout with an universally useful effect.
>first mario kart to be $80 and doesnt even fucking show its worth
Considering the reasons above + the addition of a mode (Knockout Tour) that actually adds something more as yet another main mode, I'd say it's worth the $80.
>30 fps in splitscreen multiplayer in 2025
Very subjective in terms of whether this is a problem or not.

>>730821958
Hi Doofivirus

>>730821958
>every single point apart from the one about music is just defending bad design
Tendies really will guzzle down shit and call it peak.

>>730822335
>snoy has no counterargument
Knew it.

>snoy
Oh it's this guy. Yeah no surprise then

The best MK driving mechanics is still DS with Wii pulling ahead due to the modding scene.
World has some neat mechanics but basically nowhere to apply them, boring fucking tracks, not enough of knockout tour, and an insistence that I play under a gay ruleset because they need to justify the time wasted on the open world mode is pathetic.

>>730822660
>Snakecuck
Trash opinion

>>730822537
In hindsight, the Eggman picture was a warning sign.

>>730822816
>I enjoy not going fast in racing games
Enjoy not getting podium placements

>>730812756
for me it’s still the snes. best minigames and best sprites. adding shit that isn’t the regular karts is by the far the worst thing they’ve done for the franchise. you traded content for skins

Got any World 4-race Cups for Vs. Mode enjoyment? Here's one of mine:
1. N64 Wario Stadium
2. N64 Wario Stadium > Dry Bones Burnout
3. Dry Bones Burnout > DS Airship Fortress
4. DS Airship Fortress > Bowser's Castle

>>730823287
>i should get free speed for boring ass rote mechanical memorization and not anything adjacent to axtual driving skill

>>730824585
>hold A should be rewarded more than engaging with the driftboost mechanics

>>730824709
>engaging with the driftboost mechanics
>spamming miniturbos left and right at all times on straightaways instead of thinking about how to achieve longer driftboosts with good lines and countersteering
No.

>>730824789
>yes goy hold still so I can draft behind you and land easy bananas/shells

>>730825136
Can't you just turn out of the way of bananas/shells?

>>730812756
I would love it so much more if you had a full-on jump button instead of having to charge up for so long to do it. I was expecting a wild platforming kart racer full of impromptu wall-riding, rail grinding, and alternate path creating, but all that is hamstrung by the fact that it takes like 5 full seconds to charge up a jump. You have to know EXACTLY when and where you need to start charging the jump and EXACTLY where and when to be perfectly positioned to use it. Just let me fucking jump whenever I see something that looks worth trying to jump to, don't turn it into this autistic frame-perfect memorization bullshit. There was so much potential that just completely squandered by not just having a jump button.

>>730825815
>oh no, my baby game is not 100% baby-proof and requires minimal amounts of forethought, know-how and experimentation
they should make it autojump for you personally

>>730817221
When they're universally despised they might as well not.

>>730826136
But the thing is they're not universally despised.

>>730826008
You would still need all those things with a jump button, it would just be way more fun to experiment with. You could experiment on a whim during a race instead of having to only do it while practicing alone. It would still allow the people who want to spend hours practicing a fucking party game into perfection to do that while also allowing a better experience for people who don't want to do that. As it stands, I just ignore the jump altogether because every single time I ever try anything with it I get so severely punished it's just not enjoyable to mess around with.

>played the fuck out of Double Dash
>Kart Wii launches
>hate it
>time passes
>played the fucknout of Kart Wii
>Kart 8 launches
>hate it
>time passes
>played the fuck out of Kart 8
>Kart World launches
>hate it

>>730826383
>lack of training filters anon out of Mario Kart of all games
I have no words.

>>730826383
krill issue

>was supposed to be an open world game
>the 'games' and 'challenges' around the world are insultingly boring and worthless
>nothing to do, nobody to meet in the 'open world'
>overpowered mushrooms, super strong rubber banding
>the race doesn't even matter until the last 1/2 lap due to bagging strats
>corporate has refused to fix any of the issues and keep doubling down on their horrible ideas
>time trials sucks because the runs often exploit glitchy physics and shitty collision which creates unreproduceable effects
>game breaking exploits discovered left and right the code is so bad
>basically the only thing selling the game is the abundance of cute smiling characters, but only some of them get cosmetics

As I said many times, the 'open world' concept only works if players can buy land and build their own tracks in-world. What we have instead is a failed concept and failed execution.

Nintendo is accustomed to selling children's games to adults with cute smiling, happy little characters, exploiting the 'brony effect'. But even that won't save a game that's broken to play.

>>730826921
I just want to have fun jumping around and exploring options during races. You can't do that when you have such a long charge up period and such a tiny window for success on any given jump spot. I don't care about being perfectly optimal or anything, I just want to engage with the main gimmick of the game without spending hours of time practicing each course dozens of times.

>>730827021
>the 'open world' concept only works if players can buy land and build their own tracks in-world
or if, you know, driving itself is fun and the world is big enough to explore. they tried to forza horizon-ify a game where racing is merely a facade for a party game.

>>730814638
>has less tracks than base MK8D
Well duh, it's MK8 with all the original DLC courses added to it, of course it will have more.

>>730827185
It would have worked with a dedicated jump button.

Every MK is the same shit. Hold A and drift sometimes

>>730812756
Mechanically sure i can see it, rails and wall riding makes it the more fun mario kart to play, even if water sucks.

The open world sucks and the tracks in it being forced online ruin it from being the best though.

8DX reigns supreme.

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where the fuck are her outfits

>>730827496
Young Pauline is getting them instead

>>730814638
Crossworlds had just as many problems as World but Sonicfags would rather die than admit that.

>>730827164
But if you don't practice and get comfortable with the Charge Jump mechanic, how are you going to get better? The best way to learn something is to continuously use it so learn how it works, and the Charge Jump is no different.
>>730827185
>or if, you know, driving itself is fun and the world is big enough to explore.
Luckily it is.

>>730827850
If a mechanic isn't fun to use without hours of practice first, then I just won't bother. I play games to have fun first and foremost, not to grind away at it like a job. The charge jump is just way too particular and unforgiving for me to enjoy practicing with it. If I just had a jump button I would definitely be trying it out all over the place and maybe I'd even eventually get good at knowing the best ways to use it, but charging is too tedious and missing is too punishing, so I just don't feel motivated to try it much.

>>730814314
>great music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-aph89zTQI

>>730828261
Guess what; the jump button exists. You just need to hold it down to get the powerful jumping you need. That's not difficult to learn and the charging and prep time is basically just figuring out when to incorporate it to get the best lines.

Honestly, it sounds like you just want instant gratification from something that's supposed to expand the possibilities of everything you can do once you put the time and effort to learn how it works.

>>730829050
I would like a dedicated button that jumps as high as a charged jump with no charge time. I just want to have fun jumping around in a kart game with platforming elements.

>>730829171
And you can have that fun. Learn the time you need to go from a normal jump to a charge jump, and you will eventually learn to instinctually charge up the jump before you do the platforming because you burn the time needed to reach the charge into your mind and can calculate the distance you need, especially as you get more familiar with the tracks and the world.

>>730829520
Grinding away at practice just to enjoy jumping in a kart game is not fun. MKW's primary gimmick after the open world is the jumping/wall-riding/grinding. Making it such a chore to engage with ruins that. If letting players jump at any time would break the game, then the game is poorly designed.

>>730829945
Except most gamers get the hang of it in about 10 minutes and can then play on the tracks to experiment further with it. You can even download time trial ghosts and practice particularly difficult applications of the jump.

Really, you should look over all of your posts; all of them sound like someone who's angry that a game isn't immediately giving them instant gratification from putting in the bare minimum of skill output.

>>730830507
It's a party game, dude, it's not that serious. I just want to have fun and the game would be a lot more fun with free jumping.

>>730831068
Getting better at something is half the fun. Putting in the work to do something by instinct is extremely cathartic and discovering that you're able to access new things because you can now perform a new technique is one of the greatest feelings there is, and that greatly enhances the fun factor of a game. The fact that a party game that wake feelings of this caliber is one of the greatest strengths of Nintendo games.

>>730831382
All this does is let tryhards dunk on children in a game that is supposed to equalize the playing field. You do that by limiting tryhards' options. Giving them options that are unavailable to kids is counterproductive to that.

>>730831870
It will encourage them to get better through practice an experimentation. Not to mention that they'd be better than you because they'd put in the time to learn the ins and outs of it.

>>730831068
>hold button
>release button
>jump
I dont understand why this is filtering anyone.

>>730832267
>hold button
right there, that's too much
instant gratification or it fucking sucks

>>730832978
So you also hate acceleration in Mario Kart? Thanks for confirming.
Why are you even playing it?

>>730833108
What really gets me is that he gets filtered from something literal children are able to learn how to do with ease.

>>730832267
>see a spot where you want to jump
>by the time you see it, you're already too close to charge up a jump for it
This is the problem I have. The only way to use the jump effectively is to have a list of specific spots memorized so you can get a jump ready in advance, you can't just do it on reflex. Experimenting is much harder when you have to plan out far in advance where you'd like to experiment and can't just take a chance now and then until you get the hang of it.

>>730833458
Look in front of you and you wont have that issue.
That was my kids issue too. He was staring at the kart, not where he was going.

>>730816495
>Rubber banding is now insane, the cpus are always on your ass
Nothing different from MKDS
Snaking becomes mandatory to survive in the game, from 100cc to Mirror, but doesn't work
Even using it to build a gap, the CPU goes all of its way to spam lightnings and blue shells to deliberately to give you Hell, it even keeps using Yoshi to counter your snaking on Mirror mode
Niggertendo have fumed so much about snaking, they have downgraded it on on MK7 (automatic boost charging only), idk if they did the same on MKWii

>>730835462
*doesn't work sometimes, as you need to reset the game to get this shit right

Also, it baffles me how a racing 3D game like MKDS has no rear camera, unlike all the rest of racing games being released before MKDS ffs

>replaces all the good characters from 8dx with generic cookie cutter fodder emenies
>go all in on the open world slop and it turns out to be a huge plain of nothing
>you MUST race on straight line highways for 2/3rds of every race
Fail to see the appeal. Really glad I held off on buying a switch 2. Ill wait for either a new cheaper model, emulator, or exclusives actually worth dropping bread for.

>>730835718
I think only the SNES Mario Kart had a rear camera function before the Wii game.

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It's missing one thing.

>>730837235
What weight class would he be in?

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>>730838989
Heavy

>>730812756
Nope, 8 is still the best one by a large margin. Maybe after Nintendo releases some DLC it will have a chance, assuming they unfuck some of the bad decisions and add a shitload tracks that make proper use of the new mechanics for more than just a couple of small segments.

>>730839197
Bowser's weight?

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>It’s the best Mario kart in the series.
xD

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>>730840082

>>730840082
>AIslopper calling anyone else a jeet

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>>730839961
ye

>>730841029
Nice. That would give us another superheavyweight character in World.

It’s good but some of the new items are really fucking stupid and useless. Literally what is the point of the gold shell and coin box? They’re fucking trash. Also why is blooper item so rare?

>>730841604
>Literally what is the point of the gold shell and coin box?
Fill up your coin total because coins increase maximum speed.

>>730842147
Ok fine. But whats the difference between the ice and fire flower? They’re identical.

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>>730821958
>>30 fps in splitscreen multiplayer in 2025
>Very subjective in terms of whether this is a problem or not.
i come back to this thread and this is an actual statement, what are we doing here man

>>730842450
Gives you a higher chance to get eight shots of bouncy kart-spinning projectiles.
>>730842459
Well, are you going to give a counterargument or just stand there looking dumb?

>>730813425
8D

>>730816495
is rubber banding really that bad on world? I just got it and I swear I'm a full 10-20 seconds ahead of the cpu and they only catch up if I take a retarded line or they get a mushroom and take a shortcut right at the end like a fag

Disabled Niggers are Bottoms in a Faggot Relationship by Blood

>>730812756
by default sure, but there's better kart racers