>everybody is quirky and gay and everything is lolsorandumI'm far from a chud, but the writing of this game seems creatively bankrupt.
you don't have to play it
Well undertale was called a tumblr game in 2015 and little has changed since.
I’m just here for Noelle
the 400 reply deltarune plot threads are full of lost souls
>>730825058>you don't have to play it >let people enjoy things >don't overthink it Why are people so allergic to critical thought these days? It's absolutely possible to play (and enjoy) something and they still discuss its flaws.
Desso sexoooo
>>730825163Well, it’s either that or 400 posts of which characters we wanna fuck in the ass.
>>730824970By creatively bankrupt you mean you simply don’t like it? It’s not to your tastes? What’s a game with similar writing?
>>730825163https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1axevc0iEqE
sexoooo
Bisexual sandwich between Susie, Kris and Ralsei
>>730824970>I'm far from a chudWe're entering a new era of 4chan. A few years ago people would open threads while ensuring you that they definitely weren't SJWs, now I'm seeing more and more posts of different boards where people preemptively distance themselves from the right.
>>730824970It's a game made to pander to trannies, what did you expect?
>>730825209>I don't like itIs about as equivalent to criticism as a thread of a faggot replying to himself 500 times is a "discussion"
>>730824970It appeals to people who don’t fair well in reality. If it included a non-disfunctional hetero relationship it would cause the fans to have a primal rage reaction. Congratulations, you’re slightly better adjusted than them
>>730825354the entirety of resetera and gamingcirclejerk came to this board, this is why
De/ss/ooo
>>730825354Discord was a mistake
>>730825428OP here, I didn't even say I don't like it. Let me word it differently:The game suffers from the fact that it re-uses the same comedic framing for almost every character and situation. While it had a very similar tone Undertale was a lot more nuanced and a better game because of it.
>TADC the Game
>>730824970Exactly why I dropped chapter 3 despite enjoying chapter 1 and 2.
>>730824970You can say a lot of things about Deltatr00n but not that it's uncreative. The fact that its world is all whimsical and shit is precisely its draw, it'd be the same as complaining that there's naked bitches with their pussy out on a porn site
>>730825517Yeah, that must be why. It's totally not because people are turning away from captain pedo diaper and his administration of wannabe Nazis.
>>730825221sexoo
>>730825354If you’re old enough to have lived through left-power AND right-power, you should already realize how worthless it is to put blind faith in a party. The culture war shit is just a tool the elite use to keep you fighting people at your level instead of fighting them.
>>730825802This is a blue board
>>730825694are you saying that after 10 years of constantly saying it, it's finally the end of DRUMPF? THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN?
>>730825571>The game suffers from the fact that it re-uses the same comedic framing for almost every character and situationPlease elaborate on that.
>>730824970i mean tumblr has been a thing for awhile and there is virtually no difference between tumblr culture and this videogame series
>>730824970>Go to new location>ooooo I am quirky mcchungus watch this cutscene of me talking and then running away>puzzle time! >fight/spare some trash mobs by spamming attack or act over and over >puzzle time again!>fight the boss with some added mechanic that will never be used againIt was ok when Undertale did it but now the formula is stale.
>>730825694>>>/lgbt/
>>730825163That's what happens when you don't kill the pain elemental
>>730825209Zoomers are the biggest gaming demographic now and they possess zero attention span or communication skills. They're unable to comprehend the value of criticism because it doesn't lead to an immediate dopamine hit.
>>730826215it seemed like a pretty elaborate thought to me already, and i agree with it
>>730824970forced cetitian
>>730825209Jews ruined schools and filled kids heads with bullshit so they accept absurd propaganda more easily. Things like>enforcing basic law is fascism!>enforcing the same laws Mexico does is racist!>you're racist for pointing out Somali tax fraud!>jews dindu nuffin!>80 iq retarded 3rd world's don't commit more crime! The only difference between mugajubu the serial rapist murderer and a scientist is skin color!Verification not requested
>>730825571>it re-uses the same comedic framing for almost every character and situationI think this is just Toby's old homestuck fanfic before he started UT and as such several characters are different types of internet user pastiches. But they're not all the same or all comedic, far from it.
>>730825221>>730825732how many times per week did she molest kris
>>730825537De/ll/ when?
>>730826557Yes
>>730826389no, i need an explanation on why you think every comedic framing in the game is the same
>>730825209OP isn’t being critical though, he’s just being a fag.
>>730826717>he’s just being a faggreat! he'll fit right in
>>730825571>The game suffers from the fact that it re-uses the same comedic framing for almost every character and situation.if you want a truly horrid example of this exact thing you should play Athenian Rhapsody (which coincidentally "borrows" a lot of other things from Undertale as well)
>>730825209What critical thought? You're complaining that the characters are too gay and quirky for you. Aesthetic choices can be bad and criticized but in this case the only answer proper is to not play something that wasn't made for you
>>730824970It's just not for you. A lot of people like the quirky writing and the elaborate world and characters Toby made>>730825802Soul lick by waifus is hot.
>>730826625thats weird, i didn't need any further explanation
>>730825694>>730826615pedos?
>>730826931i think you're a baiting faggot
>>730825209Imagine feeling the need to complain about everything in the world that you don't personally enjoy lmaoEven worse, imagine thinking you're doing something noble by bitching about something you chose to engage with recreationally. Just turn off the computer bro it's fucking over
>>730824970I think Susie and Ralsei both have some significant problems in their character writing but no one seems to care too much about that.
>>730827018DEER STUCKDEER STUCK
>>730826717Anon, anyone decently familiar to /v/ knows we’re probably the third or fourth gayest board that isn’t explicitly gay as far as subject matter goes. Only /fit/, /co/, and /k/ might have us beat in that regard.
>>730827141What problems would those be?
>>730824970It's cute and funny. I don't like that half the characters are gay and some jokes don't land, but there's like a million jokes. I wonder if you could list actual examples of why the game is "lolsorandum" because I feel like that almost never happens.>>730825694You have to go back, Pablo.
>>730826607Be the change you want to see and post Kress while imagining loli Kris
>>730827141I don't agree with your assessment on principle because most of the times I've heard similar in the past it's boiled down to "I want them to do something they're not". Not some change to their motives or what they say, a fundamental change to their role in the story that clearly won't achieve what the character currently is set to.
>>730826968Kris is a drawing and this is a lolisho website.
>>730825802Why are does such sluts?
>>730827279You're right, I should do that.
>>730827276>It's cute and funny.Undertale is the game with lolis, THOUGH.
>>730827370that post clearly describes a scenario with a real child
>>730827567Kris is a real child? Since when?
>>730827065>no, you can't not like the comedywhich one of us is posting irrational garbage?
>>730827560I prefer Chara with a penis. Preferably kneeling over my face.
>>730827635I'm asking people making a claim to back it up.
>>730827705no, you're posting things like "i think you're a baiting faggot" which makes you look like a baiting faggot
>>730826772I swear to God every pic involving Kris and Dess has Dess forcing Kris to smoke weed in some perverted way. I can only imagine how badly damaged Kris's brain is from all the weed he was forced to consume at such a young age.
>>730825537consider suicide
homestuck and its consequence have been a disaster for the human race
de/ss/o sexooo
>>730827298I don't have a problem with their roles in the story but how they were set up.>>730827218After I replayed the Chapter 4 tea party scene, where the gang talks about how they've changed, I feel like there's a problem that stems from how Susie and Ralsei were presented in Chapter 1.With Susie, we've seen in CH1 and stuff like Noelle's blog that Susie was legit a scary bully that said and did hurtful things to her peers. Surprise, through the story's development it's revealed she's a sweet girl that just hid her feelings out of fear of being hurt over and over again. Sure, I'm not going to argue her development was too fast and expected more from a reformed bully, but it doesn't feel accurate to the idea of a troublemaker who would self harm and self sabotage herself so much. Susie's actually very fine in Hometown. She has no problems with almost any adult whatsoever even feeling very compassionate for the police officer of all people and and being just avoidant of Alphys. She's not made guilty of any of her previous bullying either which I think just lessens the impact of her being a bully in the first place. The only people who seem to mind Susie is Carol, who's not only an antagonist but also explicitly a cunt not only with her, and Catti whose opinion doesn't seem to matter much so far. Chapter 4 goes out of its way to elevate Susie's character to such a virtous person the greatest hurdle she must overcome is believing in her power to change fate.(cont)
Why are all Kriselle artists like this?
>>730824970I'm 32 and I love these games specifically for the cringekino xD randum writing. To me it feels like a time capsule to me. It takes me back to when I was a retarded kid staying up until 2AM reading Homestuck and funding weird threads on SA and tumblr. I can't stand the gameplay of either Deltarune or Undertale, I literally only play them for the humor.
>>730827812Child abuse is fetishized in the deltarune community. I theorize it's people trying to recreate their own trauma and using the mask of fiction to justify their own sick feelings.
>>730827520There we go. Being the change you want to see.
>>730827795what makes you look like a baiting faggot is you going "no" to any request for elaboration
>>730828002I have reason to suspect that Noelle is a compulsive liar and may have embellished her blog post for reasons either neurotic or malicious.
>>730828286I wonder what started Kris's dog persona.
>>730827678Good for you, gay anon. I disagree but good for you. Undertale is still the loli game, though
>>730828002For Ralsei's case: Chapter 1 presents Ralsei almost like a whiplash of Undertale's themes. He's the pacifist good boy and the anti-Flowey who argues there's no need for violence at all, until proven at the end of the confrontation with King that indeed, some violence is important. So what's the problem?Back in Chapter 4, It's said that his character development emphasizes he's making his own decisions and as Susie mentions, acting "more normal", and later revealed that Ralsei tried to change the prophecy's tragedy by steering the gang into being kind. But does he really? You could play all chapters fighting every darkner with no objection of his. In reality, Ralsei's aggressively subservient attitude doesn't feel like he was really trying. He's completely compliant to Kris' will ("This is the path Kris chose") (or Your will, if that's revealed) and his character just floats as he develops regardless if you're trying to be kind or not and sparing darkners. Even worse that he has no objection to your enacting the Weird Route. So is Ralsei really trying? How come he's developing but at the same time he's less assertive than he used to be back in Chapter 1? Ralsei's exaggerated submissiveness is played even for jokes but it's kinda detrimental to his character if it won't be explicitly presented as a problem, which it's not being right now. Worse, it weakens his relationship to Kris who barely reacts to being elevated by Ralsei which maybe will make sense in the future but makes for kind of a lame chemistry compared to how much Susie is much more reactive to Ralsei and active in his character development.
>>730828589For Ralsei in particular he's mostly a fatalist(at least until later I'm Chapter 4) and he might be aware of the Soul, and knowing about you possessing Kris, if he's aware of that and how powerless he is compared to the Soul, it might make sense why he doesn't try to do anything that might go against what the Soul wants, beyond giving suggestions.
>>730828002Susie is a bully but she hardly has anyone traumatized or hurt. Berdly is too egotistical, Noelle gets worse from Kris, Kris himself is too busy being a psycho to give a shit about her pre-adventure. And while Susie is compassionate to Undyne and not that harsh on Alphys, that's only after she already begun softening up. You're not considering that the Dark World is giving her immediate and sudden escapism from who she used to be and she starts taking to the role of a hero, that's why she improves so drastically.>>730828589I wouldn't say he's less assertive then in Chapter 1 where in Chapter 1 he literally lets you beat him up and lets Susie toy with the idea of becoming evil. Ralsei's development is more in the sense of him getting along with the gang, he didn't have time to change his subservience much because the big moment where it's addressed is literally at the end of what we have so far. The tea scene is before the big crashout in the prophecy hallway.
>>730828917See then the presentiation that she's a bully doesn't work so well, she feels like a bullying victim more than anything, but at the same time nobody in Hometown is mean enough to justify her feelings, so it feels like her struggle is more backstory noise than anything. She just happened to be parachuted into the most beautiful place in the world where her problems can disappear with little difficulties.>>730828917>>730828853That might be true but until we have confirmation he's trying to please the Soul I have to take at face value he's pampering and validating everything Kris does. In Chapter 1 still he told Susie to act like a hero after all but he has nothing to say about Kris (or You) actively doing bad things in his eyes, which still feels strange.
>>730829527You're right that nothing in Hometown warrants Susie's behavior but maybe she's hardened from past cities, who knows. I agree on Ralsei however, it feels weird attacking monsters and losing recruits and neither of them saying anything about it. Hopefully it pays off later.
>>730825694Maduro lost
>>730825076If digg can come back, then perhaps the tumblr might see a renaissance.
>>730828424I have no idea but I love it.
>>730824970You are a chud. You are far right. This is the new normal.
De/ss/ex sexoooo
Do you love Kris?
>>730830317He's a cool human.
>>730824970lol
sexoo
The other Deltarune thread got forcibly archived, bump.
Good. Loreniggers deserve it.
>>730827385Does like things that seem like they can kill or hurt them but won't. Which is why Noelle will absolutely love the soul
>>730825354Gee I wonder what recent events could have possibly made the far right seem embarrassing even among terminally online NEETs.
>>730833840I like posting my favorite characters, too, but lore discussion is the backbone of these threads.
mwah
>>730834024Why the fuck is Ness there?
>>730824970I don't really like it but to say it's not creative is just silly.
>>730834498He's Sans.
>>730829832this is the same cowardly Ralsei that decides to change the prophecy in chapter 4 against your will.
>>730834740I remember that theory.
Are we having fun?
I can't wait for the official Dess design to be revealed and she will be nowhere near as sexy as any fan design
>>730835193hopefully everything's in place for a quick turnaround on the next chapter too
guys what if Dess is black
>>730825354I clicked on a boypussy thread and they were posting ftm transgenders with actual pussies. Then I got told to go to twitter when I complained. The old 4chan is gone
>>730834763If Gandalf was like this, it would be unforgivable.
>>730835269If she looks anything like her mother it won't be pretty
>>730835757this artist has seen into the mind of toby
>>730835517Depends on what you consider quick. I do not necessarily expect Chapter 6 to come out faster than Chapter 5, Chapter 5 had already been in development for some time before 3 and 4's release, originally they were even gonna be released together. What I believe is that the team has a deadline for 2029, 2026-2029 should be enough dev time for both chapters of things go well. I base this primarily on the "11 day or 11 years" line in Chapter 3, could not have any deeper meaning, but I think it fits.
>>730824970What's gay about this?
>>730836013Isn't this so much better?
>>730835269She has black fur so she's actually going to be even sexier
De/ss/ex sexooo
>>730826520>race brought up unpromptedObsessed.
>>730835942>Chapter 5 had already been in development for some time before 3 and 4's release, originally they were even gonna be released togetherexcept of course by toby's admission not much work got done on chapter 5and chapter 6 is already in development
>>730835193This is just because Chapter 5 was supposed to be released with 3 and 4 but got delayed. Chapter 5 has been worked since 2021 and at full time since September 2024. Chapter 5 took two years of full time development to be released. 6 and 7 only in 2029/30
>>730824970>it's okay when MOTHER and LISA do it
>>730824970It's specifically made for the worst people on earth. You're supposed to know and understand this so you don't waste time complaining.It's like you're going to a gay bar and get surprised when you see faggots.
>>730825283What the fuck is "pine + ree" supposed to mean?
>>730836234Even so I think a chapter by year is too optimistic, I mean, just look at the current development, only thing left is testing and localization and yet it's gonna take until the latter half of the year to be fully done. Chapter 6 still seems fairly barebones, so unless they can somehow get it all content content before localization done before 2027 Q3, which I doubt, I do not think it's gonna happen. I think a late 2029 release for both just makes the most sense, it's not too optimistic but also fairly reasonable and gives the team enough time to polish everything.
>>730835269I'm betting fucking everything on her having glasses at the very fucking least. No, I don't care that there's no precedent for it. The only meganes in Deltarune are fucking ALPHYS (and Toriel, sometimes). I will die of despair if Deltarune finishes and the female four-eyes economy stays the same. This is my last resort. I need this.
>>730835269>>730835757Fanon designs are naturally sexier than any of Toby's sprites, but thankfully he canonically approves of people making his characters hotter so it's all good
>>730836645>making his characters hotter>posting the human childrenbro.....
>>730836619Glasses Dess would be Vriska Dess and that would be one if the worst possible outcomes.
>>730836619I appreciate your taste but it's not happening, Dess is a pure tomboy and glasses are a nerd thing.
>>730836731Fanon humans are hot and prove my point.
>>730836619>The only meganes in Deltarune are fucking ALPHYS (and Toriel, sometimes)What about the tranny lion at the diner
>>730836741Most people are already headcanoning her as a diet spider8itch without realizing anyway. Why contain it?
>>730836542>Chapter 6 still seems fairly barebonesyou don't know that
>play and enjoy game>post in threads about it for a week or so after release>move on as the threads devolve into fanfics and shipping autismYou've just gotta know when to get out
>>730836783>Dess put the thornring on Kris firstBiggest lore.
>>730834478
>>730836896Most of the team is still working on 5, so it's barebones. We are not getting Chapter 6 next year. 2028 at best.
>>730836896I think if a good chunk of its content was done, Toby would have said so, I don't think Toby would pass on a chance of reassuring the fan base that they won't have to wait too long. In any case even with the most optimistic scenario(1 chapter per year), I still think we won't get anything after 5 until 2028, because I'm willing to bet To y wants to release the next two chapters after that as a bundle.
>>730830058
>>730837038Human molesters are so cute
>>730837108Why do so many deltaswaps swap Noelle with Kris?
I agree that it's not for me, so I just enjoy my toriel porn instead.
>>730828424reminds me of visco
>>730836896This is from the december 2025 newsletter >It feels crazy to say this even though only 6 months ago you guys only had Chapters 1 and 2, but in a few months, much of the team will probably already be focusing their attention on Chapter 6...If a majority of the team still isn't focused on chapter 6 then chances are most of the content for it is pretty barebones.
>>730837108You just know
>>730837089>Most of the team is still working on 5you don't know that>>730837106>I think if a good chunk of its content was done, Toby would have said so, I don't think Toby would pass on a chance of reassuring the fan base that they won't have to wait too longtrying to predict what's going on from what toby doesn't say is a fool's errand
>>730837282>you don't know thatbro... >>730837254
>>730837181Because you just know.
>>730836234>except of course by toby's admission not much work got done on chapter 5>and chapter 6 is already in developmentChapter 5 was neglected compared to 3&4 when they were all being worked on, but according to the newsletters, most of the team had begun fully focusing on Chapter 5 content by September 2024, almost a year and a half ago.https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/autumn24/>Anyone not working on localization, console porting, or fixes, is now working on Chapter 5. This will be the main focus for us moving forward.Based on the last two newsletters, the team is close to but not yet at this state with Chapter 6. Chapter 5 is playable but still needs work done. Some team members have started working on Chapter 6, but not the majority.https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/autumn25/>Regular enemies are mostly done. One programmer is already working on the regular enemy bullet patterns of Chapter 6.>With Chapter 3&4, there were some creative "hurdles" which made developing parts of the game difficult.>Chapter 5 was not without hurdles! But... we already passed all of the obvious ones, so there's little to get in our way now! We just need to keep making the game.https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/winter2025/>If I had to give a realistic estimate, I believe that it will take several months to release the game from where we are now.>It feels crazy to say this even though only 6 months ago you guys only had Chapters 1 and 2, but [IN A FEW MONTHS], much of the team will probably already be focusing their attention on Chapter 6...
>>730837108
Some anons here unironically think Chapter 6 is already 80% done and it'll release around early 2027
>>730824970It was made by a jew. What did you expect? And he basically copied everything from Earthbound.
>>730837482The people, they've grown weak, the knowledge that Chapter 5 will come soon has made them forget about the WAIT. But, they will be reminded of it, soon...
>>730837482Worth pointing out comparing Toby's estimates for 3+4 to 5 that 3+4's release probably was significantly delayed for the Switch 2 launch
>>730837548no here thinks that, they just think a release before the end of 2027, assuming toby doesn't hold it back for a dual release with chapter 5, is very plausible
>>730837802> 3+4's release probably was significantly delayed for the Switch 2 launchthat was a nigger move man
>>730837482that still relies on a fair bit of parsing, especially since chapter 5 has pretty much reached the "only localization, console porting, or fixes let" stage
>>730837816>assuming toby doesn't hold it back for a dual release with chapter 5That's absolutely not happening, Toby already committed to releasing Chapter 5 this yearThere was a point where I thought releasing 6+7 together was likely but I strongly doubt it now
>>730837816>is very plausiblelollmao
>>730837079never forget
Suselle is endgame. Deal with it and get in the cuck chair.
>>730837897king
>>730837920There is no ambiguity in his words, Chapter 6 is not yet receiving the full attention of the team, full speed development on it has yet to begin.
>>730838004Not if I have anything to say about it.
>>730835702Gandalf is a centuries old giga-Jesus-wizardRalsei is some kind homunculus culmination related to the actions and personalities of some teenagersCut him and his 12 inches a break
>>730838004I could have stopped this, but Kris was really rude to me for no good fucking reason so I guess he's just going to have to live with it.
>>730837990>Noelle invited a teenage boy (Or a girl as a lesbian) into her room, alone, when parents weren't home, with the blinds closed.She was plotting to have her hymen broken, no doubt about it.
>>730838094the ambiguity is how that compares to the situation regarding chapter 5 when the autumn 2024 newsletter was written
To me it all depends on exactly when Chapter 5 releases. If it somehow takes until september, or worse, even later, then there is absolutely 0 chance Chapter 6 releases in 2027.
>>730838218>or a girl as a lesbian>have her hymen brokenHow exactly would female kris break her hymen?
>>730837990>We handed Kris Doe pussy on a silver platter and he repaid us with a beat down You better watch out Kris because I have McFucking had it with your insolence.
>>730838310Fingering, I'm assuming. Possibly fisting if just a finger isn't enough.
>>730838225You're ignoring what I am saying. The fact is that Chapter 6 is still in the early stages of development, proven by the fact that the team is not yet fully focusing on it, this is what I am trying to say.
>>730824970Nigger you know full damn well you aren't going to get a single thought from anyone droned into this epochs Homestuck. Just let it go.
>>730838310Kris would insert the cactus inside her pussy
>>730838343you are ignoring my point
>>730838249I still think it's insane that localization + porting of an Update is somehow taking +6 months. It is baffling.
>>730838337you can break a hymen via fingering i know from personal experience
>>730838532...Elaborate.
>>730838456You have made no point, you're just acting like a retarded nigger on purpose. You'll probably reply with some inane bullshit to this post but I am done replying.
>>730838558it would be kinda funnier if I didn't
Why are does like this?
>>730838503Robert Stallman Fox
Dess loves the nerd goat, deal with it.
>>730838503They probably spend multiple days to translate a single line just to make sure the retarded puns and wordplay work just as well in Japanese
>>730824970its the sequel to the gay furry game what did you expect?
>>730838503think of how much english speakers sperg over theoryfagging and imagine how japanese autistics would react to poor localization/translation. remember toby is an honorary nip now so his priority is JDM. As much as 'le quirky earthbound actually about depression' writing gets memed on there is actually a lot of nuance to the serious stuff, and the silly 2015 humor toes the line between cringekino and nostalgic instead of just cringe - so a Good localization for the jokes is making a difficult task even harder. that or toby is triple checking for another doe rape incident
>>730838781It's literally not a sequel, this has already been stated multiple times.
Just have fun with it. Eventually its all going to be released all the big mysteries will be solved and there will be no more fun and memes to be had. So just enjoy the ride until then. Embrace the memes, the schizo theories, the shipping autism, the random seething rage posts. Drink it all in and savor it.
>>730838943>Eventually its all going to be released all the big mysteries will be solved and there will be no more fun and memes to be had
what was covid like in the dr universe
>>730838943I've been on the DR ride since 2018 and at this point I think I've had enough schizo theories for one lifetime, I hope Chapter 5 starts answering some stuff because I don't think I can handle another year of retarded Knight speculation.
>>730839072The vaxx made everyone autistic. Proof? Look at those fucking teens in the classroom.
>>730825209it's cope, you really just see that reply when it comes to faggot games, just go into other threads you can see, I just saw someone say ds2 is absolute dogshit and there's 5 replies, not one saying "you don't have to play it" the reply is reserved for gooner/fag games because other games generally don't foster a mentally ill community. Ctrl f it in every hytale thread you see even the paid shills don't use it.
>>730839072>Chapter 1 released in 2018>every subsequent Chapter takes place each day afterThey're not there yet, maybe we'll find out in Chapter 539
>>730839412Amogus canonically happened in the Deltarune world so it happened
Dessoooo
>>730839446Among Us came out in 2018, so they're in the clear
>>730839448looks like the chick from overwatch porn
>>730839529>Among Us came out in 2018
>>730839529Among us came earlier, but Amogus is the meme dependant on lockdown madness
>>730838943>Eventually its all going to be released all the big mysteries will be solvedYeah...
>>730826335kek
>>730825209Because there's nothing critical going on here when people say the game is reddit, gay and randomI personally don't like the fact most characters are gay too, but I do like the humor, the times the game gets serious, the music and the gameplay. In general I have a soft spot for RPGs that don't have standard turn-based combat like megaman battle network, Mario and Luigi etc.Nothing that you post would change that, and nothing that I'd post would change your mind likewise. I just visit these threads in hopes of seeing good fanart and schizophrenic theoriesIf you want to visit in hopes of making people dislike these games or farm (you)s then that's your directive
>>730839819>schizophrenic theoriespostan
>>730839902
>>730828004Why is the soul Idubbbz
Noelle if she yellow
>>730839948
>>730825354This isnt happening lmao. You're a delusional faggot playing a faggot game
Noelle if she cyan
post below is RED
Noelle if she red
>>730840021
I have played some minutes after i reaches Tem's Shop and for that Tem is my favorite character, the music in her shop is fun too
>>730840157>Fiction is fiction
>>730840186Nice
>>730839995>>730840073>>730840154NOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO OBEY MEthe 7 girls next door:
Noelle if she green
>>730840295she's breached containment, no one controls her now
>>730840295>>730840375>I know who you can call
>>730840461
Noelle if she purple
>>730840574
>>730840315https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WahfwuW76o0
>>730840626
>>730840186>>730840282oh, i was wrong! i prefer temmie village song, that's way nicer
Noelle if she orange
>>730824970I don't get this game
>>730840574>>730840626>Asgore been portrayed positively in fanart.A rare sight.
Noelle if she blue
>>730840830MAKE HOMETOWN GREAT AGAIN
>>730841657>Life or death for berrygirl
>>730838310like thishttps://files.catbox.moe/xxgbum.PNG
>>730824970kris should have been malenothing is gained from this cringe they/them shiti'd even accept it being a girli don't care at this point, i just don't want an amorphous blob
>>730842093all humans are they them blobs so toby can maximixe hot fanart and mentally ill fans that will buy lots of merch
Desso sexooo
De/ss/oooo
>>730842312all the pre ch5 roaring knight porn will be so funny if it's rudy
>>730842594>ssthat's a grown ass man
>>730842594ugly skank is repulsive
>far from a chud>thinks he gets to decide thatEither way undertake was much better then delta rune in my eyes. Delta rune focused way too much on fanfic levels of interaction and comedy shit.
De/ss/ex
>>730842762Undertale and Deltarune has a similar focus on comedy I think but in Deltarune it's more bearable because the jokes are funnier.
based and canon, cry about it pedos
https://files.catbox.moe/6n9i7x.jpeg
>>730842762deltarune suffers from development helli would love if toby overworked himself like a real jap doeswe'd have the full game by now
How hard will Susie seethe when Kris chooses Dess over her?
>>730842914he ditched her for the cat
>>730838202No excuse. If he won't go on the quest, then he was wrong to force the other heroes to waste their time on it either.
>>730842959
>>730843043biggest cope, asriel only loved one girl.
>>730843761Asriel is being fucked into a stupor by Muffet
>>730843761Cope Dess
>>730824970>everybody is gay???What is this retarded headcanon?Ralsei is ambiguous.Kris is whatever you want him/her to be.Susie is ambiguous.Noelle is bi.The rest of the characters are in either not shown to be anything or straight.
>>730844106>Noelle is bi.cope
>>730844106Ralsei is bi, and so is Berdly>>730844356>
>>730844356Yep, Kris and Noelle is yuri(hetero)
>>730844521I bet Berdly faps to traps while convincing himself it's completely straight.
>>730844521>>730844632>krisis a filthy "" they"" , so he counts
Sex with De/ss/ !>https://files.catbox.moe/mgbwgq.jpg
>>730844936post part 2 you coward
>>730824970I'm a chud and it's charming
reminder that kris was 8 and dess 12 so it's lolishota
>>730839995"I'm Gold!">>730840073"I'm Cold!">>730840315"I'm Mold!">>730840830"I'm Gold!">>730840073"I'm Cold!"
>>730844521>Ralsei is bi, and so is BerdlyWhen did they show genuine romantic attraction towards someone? Berdly only showed that towards Noelle making him straight.
>>730840315>>730845327>mossellekris and susie might actually eat her (out) now
>>730845432berdly having a crush on susie is like half the jokes with in in the last quarter of ch2berdly has also shown an interest in kris, based on the domino linethe berd is straight
>>730839072They didnt even know it happened because the internet is dead and TV only plays reruns
>>730844936"I'm Cuckold!">>730840592>>730840315"I'm Thanks doctold!"
>>730825259>What’s a game with similar writing?Goodbye, Volcano High. Yes, I went there.
>>730845196All the Kris Dess art drives me completely bug fucking insane because everyone draws like almost grown adult Dess with tiny baby Kris. But they are like two or three years apart at best.
What is the appeal of this 2D walking sim with JRPG combat once in a while?
I hope that the ending doesn't make me mad and if I can't have that then I hope it at least makes a few other people who I don't like also unhappy with the ending.
>>730842914She fucks kids
>>730847775The combat is funI enjoy the dialogueThe story is intriguingThe music is crazy goodThe characters feel realThe meta elements are well done
>>730847836You're confusing her with your mom
>>730824970>creatively bankruptmidwit phrase
>>730847841The meta is shit. Worthless
>>730847935okay
>>730845517berd is gayslay
To ignore how important Asriel was to Dess is to ignore one of her core character aspects. Asriel is practically mentioned any time there's dialogue relating to Dess. Her room is full of Asriel's stuff, she wore his jacket often, Asriel is the only friend we know she had.Dess without Asriel is a fanon character.
>>730848379If Asriel didn't cuck her, she might not have opened all those dark fountains...
>>730847775I really like the deer and the evil route
>>730848474no i know what youre getting at shut the fuck up and fuck off
>>730847775There's an underaged eunuch you can project your gender ideology onto, just as the creator intended.
>>730824970It is more boring than anything. Undertale was fine even if it had some gay bs but at least it is was original. Deltarune is just phoning it in
>>730848538Kris will ultimately side with her because he has felt the same pain. Asgore, Kris, and Dess will start the Roaring to permanently end cuckolding.
>>730848671Asriel and Dess will be reunitedKris will get sandwichedAsgoreAnd (You) will, thankfully, never get cucked. because no one will ever love you.
>>730836328>2029/30Everybody would have move on, and toby himself would be burned off from working on the same project for a decade
>>730836328>>730848958>2029/30Robert will have moved onto a crowdfunding model that gives him passive income for not working, just like all of his other woke-in-all-but-self-identification (so, woke) game-dev buddies.
>>730848598Sounds retarded and gay
>>730849267Fitting for Robert Fox's work.
SEXOOO
The knight is rudy
I am the Knight
Dessex sexooo
>>730850035My clitty is leaking
>>730848895>no one will ever love you.You're wrong, Gaster exists.
>>730848895Kris is a volcel, so xhe gets nobody
>>730824970There's only one way to solve that, anon.
>>730847775>2D walking sim with JRPG combat
>>730850667The main aspect of Gaster is that he doesn't exist dude
>>730850850He came from that btw
>>730850938if he doesn't exist why did he reach out to me on xitter and help me beat the knight
>>730850997That wasn't supposed to happen.
>>730851085He is a sick fuck.
>>730850735kris is only a volcel with noelle, for reasons yet not explained kris 100% wants to the dinosaur
>>730851140>kris is into petplay>susie is into scent stuff>ralsei is into being literally objectified>noelle is into POWER>(You) are (You)why is the entire fun gang a bunch of fucking degenerateslancer and starwalker are the only pure ones
>>730850997fake news there's be a pool on the floor if he did
>>730851312It's a mystery but by god they need therapy.
>>730850850Look at under Susie's eyeSusie Gaster confirmed
>>730851374I can do the rapey
The writing is hit-or-miss, sometimes it's cute, sometimes it's just obnoxious. But I've played plenty of JRPGs with much worse writing.I mainly play it for the music. Toby Fox is a much better composer than anything else
>>730851809good music manipulates people into thinking the story is good (halo 3)
>>730851809>But I've played plenty of JRPGs with much worse writing.hard pressed to think of another jrpg where as little happens in 20 hours as deltarune
>>730852162What actually happens?
>>730845432Ralsei gets plenty of teasing with both Kris and Susie, and CHADly declares Kris will be joining his harem after Susie and Noelle in Chapter 4
>>730852278in deltarune? this image for eight years
>>730852162>I'm hard-pressed to think of another movie where as little happens in 2 hours as My Dinner With Andre
>>730852471That would make them straight, since Kris is a girl.
>>730852162>hard pressed to think of another jrpg where as little happens in 20 hours as deltaruneWhat compels people to say dumb shit like this
>>730852524the apt comparison would be if my dinner with andre was fourty hours long and twenty of it was spent on introducing random locations and characters to wally that amounted to literally nothing because they have no overarching importance to the actual narrative.>>730852682youre free to list off examples of rpgs that have as sluggish of pacing with zero narrative payoff as deltarune, but considering deltarune fans dont play rpgs youll have a very difficult time doing so.
>>730852752It's about... le mystery
>>730824970i wish i could write like thatactually i wish i could write characters full stop. my autism is too severe. i can write history but not people.
>>730853037Just make basic archetypes, that's what Toby does
>>730852973le mystery has had zero payoff so far and the story is over halfway done. i dont mind mysteries but it feels very fandom-oriented to make people keep questioning shit like bad television akin to lost
>>730853116Yes I agree. I think Toby is too worried about subverting le expectations too
>>730824970Yeah, Toby's style of humor works much better for something you'll spend under 10 hours with than a full length RPG
Need deer gf
>>730852162You're probably the type of person who thinks MOTHER 3 is better than EarthBound because "EarthBound has no story, you just walk from point A to point B." You don't understand the SOVL innate to just going on an adventure with your pals. "Here's the villain. Go get 'em!" followed by 20-50 hours of straightforward adventure is the best type of RPG. Deltarune sprinkles in mysteries as a bonus, but contrary to what contrarians seem to think, Deltarune is not a visual novel. In fact it would be terrible as a visual novel because story is not the focus. Adventure is the focus.
>>730842762>>730842880For as much as I love her I think a lot of it is that Susie is a constant presence for the majority of dialogue and in doing so colors the entire tone of the game around her.In Undertale each major character had their area and then all communication with them otherwise was brief and mostly optional.Or in other words Frisk as the primacy focus was mainly a neutral figure that mainly served as a vessel to see each character show off their stuff.Meanwhile of KSR while Kris replicates that observer role with most of the agency between the chapters and Ralsei just kind of exists, Susie colors every interaction she is a part of and in being an active voice throughput the game colors the game with herself so that even when each character is showing their stuff she is right there anchoring the context for the conversation.Its also why most of the moments in the chapters where is Kris alone or Kris + Ralsei or Noelle stand out more when it happens.And personally this isn't a bad thing but I can see why having a centralizing character voice can rub people the wrong way.
>>730853323You're too old for her
>>730853465thus is the flaw of trying to have a mute protagonist. I wish they'd take this trend out back and shoot it but no, "we gotta let the self inserters do their thing which they can't do if the MC has any personality at all"
>>730853649Sometimes a mute protagonist is fun though
>>730853649I don't think this si a flaw in of itself, again Frisk was a mute protag and in being mute served as a audience for the UT characters to do their thing.Susie who is ostensibly the MC of the Normal Route is the centralizing force I was talking about.I like Susie doing that bot other may not, ti all depends on what you want out of a story.
>>730825209>Clearly don't like some style of writing and humor>Play a game that has that kind of humor and writing>"I don't like this">kk don't play it then>"Bros... Why can't people handle my thoughtful criticism? I clearly gave such in-depth feedback like "it's creatively bankrupt" and "its gay and lolsorandum", there is no critical thought anymore on /v/..."Just don't play it. Its clearly not for you. Like me playing FIFA and complaining that people are kicking ball around
Can we post some USTs we really like?https://youtu.be/GRyGERw9BoEhttps://youtu.be/CE4kxxE1PSYhttps://youtu.be/wdfNlc_mpnM
>>730853649Kris has more personality than any protagonist from a AAA video game that has released in the past 15 years and AAA protags never shut the fuck up.
>>730853979I don't think he has no personality. But to say he has less personality than any protagonist released in the last 15 years just makes it sound like you haven't played any games other than Deltarune in the last 15 years
>>730854167tbf the past 15 years have not been kind to enjoyers of AAA video games and their protagonists.
>>730825354Because touristfags now hang out here unironically, since their own shithole platforms are turning into facebook. Deltatroons specifically are the new ponyfags just without the containment board combined with a lot of modern cope, where entire threads are essentially fanfiction and off-model fanart, to convince themselves what they were first really into isn't actually teenbait dogshit while they slowly discover other better media.
>>730852752>examples of rpgs that have sluggish pacing with zero narrative payoffEvery Trails game besides SC, 3rd, and Zero Every final fantasy game made after FFX
>>730853979No really. You are just filling in the blanks and imagine he has the personality you want them to have. While other protagonists just have personality you dislike.
>>730824970Anon, it seems like you ara above an IQ of 80 and white so the game isn't for you.Only sub 80 IQ brown people would understand.Go play Salt and Sanctuary or something.
>>730856446>>730854167He has more personality than "Boring gun man".
This shit generated troons, it's weaponised
>>730853465>For as much as I love her I think a lot of it is that Susie is a constant presence for the majority of dialogue and in doing so colors the entire tone of the game around her.While I don't entirely disagree I think the game is honestly pretty good at balancing itself in that regard. Both chapter 2 and 3 have some non Susie sections.
>>730857263Good. The aryan race virus must be exterminated and human goodness must triumph. If Deltarune is part of the booth that squishes the hive of vermin known as Hyperborea, it has a place in the perfect utopia that awaits us afterwards.
>>730857262He has less personality than even that Forspoken >>730854418 chick, you just like the vague and mysterious bits of Kris' personality and dislike her.
>>730824970Deltarune is slop because it has an ugly low effort artstyle, ugly and boring aesthetic, uninteresting setting, Susie is a dyke, it's LOLRANDUMB quirkslop and it is the sequel to that awful meme game.
>>730857461Most AAA games are not Forspoken. Your typical Call of Duty/Call of Duty clone protagonist has zero personality. Same for a lot Live service games like Destiny or sport games.
>>730857617>Most AAA games are not Forspoken. Your typical Call of Duty/Call of Duty cloneNigga have you been in cryosleep for 20 years? Call of Duty clones haven't been a thing since late 00s. Most AAA is not CoD and not sports games.Veilguard characters have a lot of personality too.
>>730853649Kris isn't even mute, it's just that his agency is restricted so long as (You)'re inhabiting his body and we can only infer what he's saying or doing from how other characters react to how he conveys himself.We know for a fact Toby wants there to be a big moment where Kris finally stops being filtered by our presence, it's just that it can't come until his big character moment and/or development, which is, from how things are being set up, unavoidably tied to the point in the narrative where he's finally forced to choose who he wants to stand by, subsequently showing his true colors and true self.
>>730825209>I don't like this because... um... it reminds me of reddit>And the big bang theory>Now refute me with facts and logic so I can call you a tranny!You are not a tenth of the intellectual you think you are. You're dumber than most zoomers, dare I say
Dess would NEVER molest Kris, they're friends ! :)
I was fucking around yesterday in a chapter 2 Snowgrave file before the Berdly fight and I could have sworn I saw a flash of Gaster while zoning once (on some City screen), I'm not finding anything about it though and admittedly I've been moderately sleep deprived. No such thing right? Could have been friend or something too, but afaik he only appears in the roots and regardless whatever I saw did look like Gaster.
>>730857984Most AAA games are actually Call of Duty and Sport games since they are the one franchise that reliably still comes out. The most consistent trend for AAA games is LESS of them coming out each year. Like, the only other EA game that came out in 2024 that could be considered as having a lead with personality is Immortals of Aveum. You remember that game? Hell, you remember the lead of that game? Meanwhile, 2023 had the Dead Space remake and Jedi survivor. Not the worst examples possible, but I would honestly still argue Kris has more going for him.At best you'll get something like the lead of most Assassins Creed games. Not... bad exactly(Except Ezio, everybody loves Ezio) but just kind of bland and inoffensive. I remember being somewhat fond of the protagonist of Assassins Creed Origins but 1: That was mostly just because of the time spend with him and him actually having a wife and (Formerly) a child. 2: Almost a decade ago. Farcry meanwhile has been given it's main characters LESS characterization with each entry, Again, to go back to 2024, the lead with the most characterization was probably the protagonist of Star wars outlaws.. And I barely count that because "Han Solo but a girl" is cheating. I guess they also had Prince of Persia but I thought that was a budget title.
>>730824970>>730825209>>730825571Well no shit, it's from a homosuck alumni. Insisting upon itself is as much of a given as it having a shit ending. Toby is masterfully milking this series that simultaneously pre-planned out in its entirely and made up on the fly as a new thought or painful fan theory crosses his mind.
>>730851312everyone in the fuck gang is a angeless weirdo
>>730858531>homosuck alumniSingular is 'alumnus'
>>730858652I still think it works because Toby's not working on these games alone, and his circle was borne from Hussie's sphere. Sucking off Sakurai to get into Smash isn't gonna wash away that stink.
>>730837802We don't actually know that. It's just an assumption. But I believe it based on how much of a weeb and tendie Toby is.
>>730838943>all the big mysteries will be solvedThis didn't happen with Undertale, it's not happening with Deltarune. Toby loves speculation and theory crafting for endless discussions, as well as keeping things vague for fanfiction purposes
>>730825428>Ctrl+F "I don't like it">This post is the only result What causes this sort of mental illness?
>>730853979The people diving into the intricacies of the AAA games industry and mulling over individual specific games are taking this post way too literally. Kris' personality is strong despite being expressed subtly. I like Kris a lot and feel he manages to avoid the pitfalls most silent protagonists are subject to. I prefer Kris to the Marvel-quip-McGee protagonist that has seemingly become the norm in high budget games these days. Kris doesn't talk, but it feels as though he says a lot. AAA protags talk a lot but say nothing. Sometimes less is more.
So we all agree, the game would be better off if it was rewritten to simply cut Susie and Ralsei out completely right?
>>730842093What >>730842223 said. Humans are ambiguous for imagination purposes and so that everyone can draw and write what they want.
>>730859254game would be better if toby stuck to the original plan and had 2-5 all together and didn't force cliffhangers to cause theory autism for 5+ more years than the game needed
>>730824970>>730825669>>730826313>>730839819>>730859254I am making my own indie rpg. I want it to have better writing and more likable characters than Undertale + Deltarune.How can I achieve this?
>>730825354Because 4chan is overrun by election tourists unironic rightoids who thought they were in good company, since people here freely said nigger and hated SJWs. I'm not even sure what's the modern version of SJW is, because I don't ever interact with those schizos. Nowadays 99% of all whining and bitching I see online is from woke right. That's the term I see more now.
>>730843761... who is Chara, that he couldn't even live without in Undertale (unlike Dess btw)
>>730859240Kris works for me because he actually has drive (Though, granted, right now we don't know for what), inner conflict, and clashes with the player and the rest of the world. He actually feels like a presence when even a lot of AAA games protagonists I like are typically pretty secondary to the overall plot. >>730859254No.
>>730859369My veiny penis slamming against Chara's cervix until it's permanently dented.
>>730859328Have all of the girls suck your dick like a gacha game.
>>730858101>>Now refute me with facts and logic so I can call you a tranny!nobody mentioned trannies until youi wonder why
>>730844521Berdly is only bi if Kris is a man, the same as Noelle being bi. But Kris is schrondinger's gender so they also are schrondinger bi
>>730859328make them a mash of characters you likemake sure to give them flaws so they feel more realistic/ grounded get a second opinion once in a while for a different perspective
>>730859254no fuck off
>>730847686Yeah, Asriel is probably 19 while Kris is 16. Kress age gap is only 3 years, there's no way it's actually /ss/.
>>730827018>tfw noelle will never get genuinely angry at you
>>7308595523 years feels way to short7 makes much more sense with what we know of how kris and noelle behaved and their parents letting dess and asriel go out into the woods with themkris and noelle being 8/9 while asriel and dess were 15/16 fits the best
>>730827151PLEASEI BEG YOU
>twitter still thinks Suselle will happenI can hear Toby laugh from here
>>730838943>all the big mysteries will be solved
>>730853465Undertale has a purposeful "loneliness" feeling Toby wanted to put in his game, which is why he removed the phone being Frisk's annoying sidekick. Undertale is all about a child exploring a huge cavern, all alone. Meanwhile the party system of Deltarune stops that from happening because you have Susie and Ralsei together with you at all times, so it feels more like a roadtrip.
>>730839948if ralsei isnt a tree then hes 100% a plushthis post also failed to mention the "frayed yarn and buttons" in her room
>>730858410You are just schizophrenic.
>>730859765>you still think it won't>you still think Kris will get anything
>>730859254It would be better if every single character relationship wouldn't involve Kris and player sitting in a cuck chair.
>>730859765all of them secretly know it's not going to happen but have to pretend to support it to save face it's also why you see a bunch of them calling kriselle and krusie 'yuri coded' when prior to ch3 & 4 they were the fandom 'straight' ships to the canonical suselle the table flipped because it's now undeniable that suselle is the blandest yuri pandering possible compared to the insane chemistry of the two retards one braincell energy of krisie and the tragic childhood dark romance of kriselle
>>730858410>>730859945
>>730859254Deltarune without them just isn't Deltarune.
I played the game but then I try to look in these threads and I see characters I've never even heard of and shit and it makes me wonder whether I even played the same game. Is this what the mandela effect people feel like?
People that dislike Susie and Ralsei: What kind of secondary characters would be acceptable to you?
>>730860000Troons slowly realising Kris is actually just a dude in an JRPG waifu setting. Chapter 5 gonna be a cold shower for them when the only choices will be between Susie and Noelle
>>730860159troons default to kris being male (just like them) kris actually being female is the radical anti troon position, because it proves that kris isn't literally them and never will be
>>730843761>dess disappears>"FINALLY HOLY SHIT">"CATTY MY BIG BEAUTIFUL C.A.W.G. PLEEEEEEEASE FUCK ME"unironically what did he mean by this?
Asriel friends zoned Dess and that's what made her snap.
>>730851312>starwalkerhe literally fucks the wife/husband of the weather duo at the same time
>this is still the funniest joke in all of DR>only gerson accidentally recruiting darkners came close
Is this why she's not in the game?
>>730859391Calm down...Same, but both Frisk and Chara
>>730860265Kris is a dude like Persona 4 and 5 protag. Susie being a tomboy already proves Kris as a male because no retard would make 2 tomboys as protags in any game. By any rule of designing a story, you only insert one archetype to avoid redundancy and repetition
>>7308596477 is just too big. Asriel has gone into college recently and Toriel thinks the same will happen to Kris soon. If seven years was the gap Asriel would have gone to college a long time ago.
>>730853415Deltarune used to be that before chapter 4 changed it. It took away the adventure when Ralsei told Kris that he needs to change the prophecy against his will, risking the entire Deltarune world in the process. This may shock you, but being able to complete the quest given to you in an adventure game is the bare fucking minimum you can provide your player.I like going on quests and finishing them.
>>730860515THOSE ARE ASGORE'S DAUGHTERS!
>>730859898I feel like that's more of a Seam reference since Asriel also has connections to him.
>>730860493Out of character, Muffet would tie people up not be tied up.
>>730859328Good question. imho a good RPG will give you multiple ways to get from point a to point b instead of going through the same locations and fighting the same enemies every time like what Undertale does. I recommend checking out some old gamebooks like Fabled Lands and Heart of Ice to get an idea of what I'm talking about.
>>730860603given that the financial status of the dreemurrs seems to leave a lot to be desired, it's entirely plausible that asriel spent a couple years working to raise money
>>730860637Good thing I am not Asgore. I will take care of them, Mr. Dreemurr
>>730860606Col are you illiterate or did you miss the part the prophecy has a very very bad TRAGEDY that nobody wants it to happen?
>>730860776Burgerpants is the one who is struggling financially and can't go to college because of it. The game implies Asriel is the opposite of him. The only Dreemurr with money struggles is Asgore because he never sells his flowers.
what did asgore do to get divorced and piss everyone off? Is it some deep lore I don't know or do we genuinely just not know?
>>730860487>Accidentally
>>730860807There is NOTHING that could be worth the fate of their entire world. When it says the entire world would be doomed to the Roaring, that affects everyone and everything.My favorite stories have quests that the heroes go on, and get this, they actually complete, because that's what heroes do when people are counting on them.
>>730860896only toriel is still pissed off, and it's somewhat implied that the only reason she still is is because he's still simping for herthe rest of the town just feels bad for him
>>730860910Are you autistic? They goal is to avoid tragedy AND save the world.
>>730860910There is no reason that Deltarune has to pull a publicity stunt like this. This development offers me no entertainment. It puts the quest to a screeching halt and makes all of it a colossal waste of time.The least you can do is show it to me. You don't do that, then I have no reason to care.Wanna know how to stop the prophecy? Let the Roaring Knight win. Don't save the world. It's like if Frodo and Sam just flied the Eagles to Mordor. Pathetic.
>>730859585This might happen if you refuse to fuck off in the normal route festival when she asks you to.
>>730861031Too late. Tenna's already dead. They can handle a tragedy. I got over it in a minute.
>>730860606We have no idea if the ending of Chapter 4 signals a change in anything since we haven't seen anything past it yet. For all we know the game will keep up the whole "close the chapter's dark fountain" rigamarole going all the way through. You are complaining about a structural change that might not even exist.
>>730860339Poor Dess... but Asriel's heart always belongs to someone he can't live without
>>730861165yepsans
>>730861071Do you also believe Frodo is an unforgivable coward for being taken by the ring and almost ruining the mission at the fires of Mount Doom?
>>730859328Be like Toby and just make a game you want to make based on every single media you watched and consumed. Focus on cool things you like rather than make everything logical all the time. Keep things vague to encourage your fandom to make fanworks, too.
>>730860045Characters like FRIEND aren't actually important to understand the main story of Deltarune. You are just a normalfag
>>730861121What if the tragedy was your entire family dying, CoL? Would you still go forward without hesitating?
>>730861201>Sans is CharaBiggest lore
>>730861290>You are just a normalfagbeen a long time since I was called that.
>>730861326He's an autist, he can't understand hypotheticals, don't even try.
>>730860606Ralsei has been trying to fight destiny since chapter 1.
>>730861219No. He resisted the will of the Ring constantly poisoning his mind and body longer than anyone else would have. Its his mercy and ingenuity to spare Gollum that made it so the quest succeeded. Unlike Ralsei he doesn't lie about his intentions, tell his companions he wants to do one thing then bitches and moans about the quest he started. There is none of that from Frodo Baggins.
>CharaRape.RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE
>>730861121>Tenna's already dead.Alive on my machine
>>730861326This may shock you but the heroes are fighting a war. People die in war, it is a tragedy. But they are already risking their lives to go on this quest.
>>730861618The alternative is letting the Roaring Knight rip and tear the earth apart until there is nothing left but the light-devouring cancer of the Dark Fountains.
>>730824970These games are tumblr core tranny games, pathetic fanbases and fake overblown praise.
For me, it's the part where Chara appears on screen and kills you. So cool.
>>730861720Chara better stay away from me. If she wants to keep her cervix safe.
>>730861123Then why bother? If I didn't see it, the game obviously doesn't value my opinion or my time invested in this quest.
>>730861761You shouldn't, go do something better with your time.
>>730861761Then fuck off and go play Dragon Quest (which doesn't value your opinion either, you can't choose how the story goes)
>>730860606>I'm autisticWe know, bruh.
>>730861618So you would sacrifice your entire family for that?
>>730861605Don't rape human girls. Keep them safe>>730861750This but with both humans and consensual.
>>730861761>If I didn't see itSee what?
>>730861720Chara doesn't kill you (or Frisk, for that matter). She just destroys the world. That's why you have to sell Frisk's soul to restore it.
>>730862004CoL is talking about the final prophecy. He hates the fact Susie broke it before he could see it.
>>730861618>risking their livesby virtue of being bound to fate by the prophecy they quite literally aren't risking anything until the mystery panel
>secret scenes hint at Dess being the knight>secret scenes hint at Noelle being not well mentally>secret scene hint that Krusie>SuselleAll that seem in front and center is going to be subverted
>>730861761And that cretin Toby Fox has given me no reason to trust him. Mike? A joke at the expense of the theorists that he egged on for years. Toriel as a party member? Trashed to make her irrelevant. Undyne? Appears for 10 seconds and got kidnapped. Bishop? Nah, that's when we gotta shoehorn in undertalecharacters instead of making a consistent game, eh?>>730861804Toby Fox lied. When he said there was only one ending and that the heroes were told as their leader in spirit that they would fulfill an ancient prophecy, I believed it. Because I liked that premise. And he lied.>>730861910You do nothing, and everyone will die. Including them. I will never understand the idea of not fighting the bad guys who serve demons and would destroy you and your God in a stroke if they could.>>730862004Final prophecy.>>730861859Dragon Quest has the decency to actually let me complete its quest. A better name for the series is "palate cleanser", for bringing back the bare minimum for an adventure game. The bare minimum should not be taken away by subversive fucks like Toby Fox halfway through the game, past the part of the game that was never marketed.
>>730860698she would if paid enough
>>730862187>MikeIf you take the Mike jokes as insulting because it doesn't satisfy schizo theories made with your own free time and amusement that's on you. Nothing about Mike is mean spirited.>Toriel as a party member?This was never promised anywhere by anyone>Undyne? Appears for 10 seconds and got kidnappedHer relevancy was never promised anywhere by anyone>BishopWhat? Is this chess theory?>that's when we gotta shoehorn in undertale characters insteadWeren't you complaining literally a line above that Toriel and Undyne aren't relevant?See CoL I think you might be actually schizophrenic or you're straight up not paying attention to the game because you keep complaining about things that were never promised to you in the first place.
>>730862147Kris is literally betraying Susie next chapter. Krusie will crash and burn hard
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>>730862187>You do nothing, and everyone will die. Including them. I will never understand the idea of not fighting the bad guys who serve demons and would destroy you and your God in a stroke if they could.You are avoiding my question, CoL. Would you sacrifice your family? Throw them into the fiery pits?
>>730860690doe breast looking good this time of the year
>>730862541Kris will defy the plan and save Susie which will push Susie to realize that she's actually in love with Kris and not apples
>>730862793Dess>>>>Susie in terms of who Kris likes.
>>730862886you /ss/ fantasy will never happen, Dess is either dead or you will see Asriel cuck you in the happy ending
>>730862995Boy, the whole doelester thing really hit a nerve with you huh? Did you actually get molested as a kid or something?
>>730861165>Every timeline>Every world>The two are destined to be together.Cute.
>>730862494I don't think Mike should been a character. If I was a Mike schizo, Toby Fox would have gotten a needle cupcake.>TorielAdding new party members across the game is a good thing actually. I was in the right to assume, considering that Noelle was made a party member in chapter 2.>BishopYes. There could have been an original character ruling the Dark Sanctuary, and for some reason he chose that time of all times to give special treatment to an Undertale character, when no such treatment was given for Toriel or Undyne.>>730862691What do you want me to say? That I would sacrifice my own family? Why can't you blame the antagonist for starting the war making this necessary?What next, you tell me Link shouldn't be fighting Gandondorf because people might die? No kidding, people die in war, a war Ganondorf started by invading Hyrule. That is the purpose of the hero. To oppose the enemy, even if he and those he loves may die. Because if they don't, no one else will, and everyone will die while a heathen invader sits on a throne made of their bones.
>>730863098Doelesting hits hard for Kris’s self-inserters. Meanwhile I just find it funny.
>>730863182>What do you want me to say? That I would sacrifice my own family?Yes. I want you to answer the question. You mock Ralsei for not wanting his friends to die when you yourself can't say that you would sacrifice your own family.
>>730863106Very. Toby is good at writing romance when he doesn't intend to.
>>730863182I'm kind of pitying you right now. Living with so much frustration every day because things don't happen exactly the way you expect them to must be torture
>>730863317Dess wanting to be a human would be neat.>>730863408Asriel here looks like Mia fey....
>>730862995Kris either let Knight swoon Susie or backstabbed her for Dess. Cope.
>>730863430Maybe if games are released as consistent products, that would stop.
>>730863459>Asriel here looks like Mia fey....Asriel being tall Ralsei is probably his fate at this point, but I hope he looks good, at least.
>>730824970I'm a racist, misogynist, and I think trannies are disgusting freaks, and I think Deltarune is pretty endearing.
>>730863314I don't mock him. But I am incredibly angry at him. I don't like heroes that abandon their quests halfway through out of cowardice. That fails to entertain me, and makes me very angry. Why is it so much of an ask? Why am I even needing to defend the very basics of an adventure game (heroes get a quest, they go on a quest, they complete the quest). How can you possibly say that adventure games shouldn't even have the bare minimum in them?
>>730863681Can you just answer the fucking question? Yes or no. It's that simple.
>>730863829No. The answer is no. But you ride out to war for the purpose of defending your family.
>>730864175Okay, you are literally like Ralsei, then. You would want another ending that doesn't involve the tragedy.
Saving Dess is more important than some smelly Dino bully you’ve been friends with for 2 days
>>730864313You know, if I had to give any solid defense for my takes, it's this.4 years ago, there was no one telling me that heroes going on epic quests to save the world from disaster was a bad thing and how that story should be subverted because some of the character might die.Why is it that these people are only doing this now?Don't play moralfag with me. I want an epic quest that I can play through for my entertainment, why do you hate this so much.
>>730864392In Chapter 1 Ralsei had an entire speech telling you to be nice to avoid tragedy. It was always there, man, and now you can't judge Ralsei since you don't want a bad things to happen to your loved ones, too.
>>730864313It's your turn to answer a question now. Where were these people 4 years ago telling me how I actually shouldn't actually enjoy fantasy adventures because some of the characters die?This is fiction. I want some of the characters to die in the story. I want the story to be about an epic quest of three chosen heroes fighting for the Kingdom of Darkness against its rival Kingdoms and a mad Knight that arms them. That is what I want for my fiction, because I think it would be fun. Why am I wrong for looing for something I like that no one wants to make anymore for no fault of my own? Why is it such a big ask have the bare minimum for adventure story fiction in my fiction.
>>730864392>>730864639You're an autistic defeatist pussy who accepts the false dilemma of having to choose between the world and the lives of Kris's friends. The Western literary canon has no shortage of examples of heroes unafraid to break the chains of fate and save what they have been told cannot be saved. What you want will never matter because you're too weak to forcefully shape the world into what you want. That's why Kris is a better hero than you. Kris has balls, you have piss in your bloodstream. The faggy they/them is more of a man than you'll ever be.You will only ever be what you've called yourself many times in these threads: a customer. You eat and consume what is put in front of you, a happy pig with no ability to choose his destiny.
>>730864639>Where were these people 4 years ago telling me how I actually shouldn't actually enjoy fantasy adventures because some of the characters die?Ralsei always asked you to be nice to avoid the tragedy since Chapter 1>>730864586The fictional characters inside the fictional universe hoping to not die doesn't affect you. You can still play the game normally. However just like how you wouldn't want to have your loved ones die, Ralsei doesn't want to, either.
>>730835627>they were posting ftm transgenders with actual pussieslink?need need need need need need need
>>730864808I wish I was a happy customer. I stop being a happy customer when my favorite stories are taken away. Not to mention that I have stated multiple times that I have very specific tastes.And I can shape the world into what I want. I can. I have. And I will do so until the game is finished.
