>This Link has to earn the Triforce>Ganondorf is a desperate old man>the final battle happens after the King of Hyrule punks Ganondorf and damns his own kingdom.>Ganondorf just tries to murder you because he has nothing left to loseThis shit rocks, could Zelda fans of the 2000s really not get over how it looks?
>>730832279I just realized that The Zelda Cycle is no longer common knowledge. To recap, for a while there there was a time where whatever mainline Zelda was most recent was considered terrible until the next one came out, when it would suddenly be retconned to be misunderstood. So Majora's Mask was terrible until "Celda" made it a misunderstood gem, Wind Waker was kiddie shit until Twilight Princess made it operatic, and Twilight Princess was underwhelming until Skyward Sword etc.
>>730832596I could've sworn people loved Twilight Princess when it first came out. People bitched about the wolf sections, but I don't think the complaints were ubiquitous.
>>730832736The Ganondorf reveal seems quaint now, but at the time, people were furious. Same as the Triforce Quest, where nowadays it's "yeah, that part really drags" whereas at the time it was evidence WW was fundamentally broken.
>>730832836>people were furiousPertaining to which part exactly, that it was OoT Ganondorf? Or something else?
Wind Waker hate was always extremely forced and was obviously the product of normgroid teenagers spazzing out about the game having cartoon graphics.The Triforce Hunt cope was cooked up afterwards as a way of legitimizing WW as a 'bad' Zelda title.Every Zelda up until Skyward Sword has been great. SS was mid as fuck because wagglan is a stupid gimmick and its trying too hard to be a JRPG with the town story. Basically everything since SS is nuZelda trash and Aonuma sucks donkey balls as a director.
>>730832961The bait and switch of Zant, mostly. If you're familiar with the later X games, a bit like the irritation over Sigma always being the mastermind instead of a new villain legitimately being their own villain. I think at the time people wanted Zant to be sort of like a Vaati.
>>730832596I get the "zelda cycle," but I actually believe it's just ageI was 10 when OOT came out and 12 when MM came out, and I though they were both incredibleThen I was a teenager when WW came out and I thought it looked lame comparatively to the 64 gamesI didn't realize anyone had anything bad to say about MM until I was much older
>>730833031This is the truth, SS broke the so called Zelda Cycle because it genuinely was bad unlike the previous games. Hell, as much as I'm not a huge fan of the way BotW and TotK take the series, they're both still objectively better than the rancid dogshit that is SS.
Windwaker is a great game, and at this point I've replayed it more than I have Ocarina of Time or Majora's Mask. I love its music, its style, it's atmosphere. It has flaws, sure, but it executes so well on its good points. I've always liked how expressive Link is in Windwaker, too.
>>7308327368.8 blunder of the century
OP you forgot to mention that earning that triforce ultimately isnt that fun. as a kid it felt special but now that im an old faggot it just feels tedious. many people played ww when they were not kids.
>>730833591There are STILL normgroids consuming IGN reviews.Think about that.
>>730833614For me the triforce hunt was just an excuse to sail around and explore all the islands, which I enjoyed immensely.
>>730833614... maybe play a game series that isn't about assembling the triforce to fight Ganon then?
>>730833668This. Sailing literally never got old for me. In fact, to this day it's one of the only games ever to get this satisfying feeling of sailing gameplay right.
>>730833031wind waker fucked the timeline of the franchise and yes, it was relevant before that game came out second game was a sequel, third was a prequel, fourth game was either a sequel or an interquel to the first or second, oot was the first chronologically and majora was a sequel following child linkwe knew there were two timelines due to the credits showing people celebrating in the adult timeline and zelda sending link back to the past, with the implication that all the 2d games were in that adult timeline and that oot was the imprisioning war that was mention here and therethen all of a sudden here comes wind waker telling is there was the never before mentioned fuckoff flood that completely engulfed and destroyed hyrule in the adult time line aonuma fucked up a good franchise and it took until skyward for people to fully realize the damage he was doing when he completely sidelined the golden goddesses for hylia (who was now zelda's ancestor for some reason)
>>730833892>and yes, it was relevant before that game came outno it wasn't.
>>730832596The Zelda Cycle died with BotW being universally acclaimed. And thank god, it, like every retarded fucking "pattern" that Nintendo fans like to come up with things, was fucking stupid and self-fulfilling."The newest game was always considered bad and the old one was considered good!!!". Wow. You mean people criticized the newest game because it was the in thing to do and the discourse around the previous resolved to the reasonable answer of "yeah it has good qualities". No shit.
>>730833892Nobody but the most obnoxious autists cared about the zelda timeline now or in the past
From what I remember of WW:>Very easy even for Zelda>You have to pay like 3-4k for the tri-force maps to even have the privilege of looking for them. That hold segment just felt like huge padding>lore implications like the king killing literally everyone, and most races changing into new creatures entirely like the Koroks>Personal austim here; Link is dyed blondieSome really memorable stuff though like memorable npcs (SPLOOSH guy, etc), fantastic cel-shading and bitching music.
>>730832279I don't think you know what that word means. But even still it's not that good of a story. It was subversive bullshit technically.
>>730834535Which word in particular
>>730834491Don't forget the lack of dungeons and it didn't have enough sidequests to compensate for it compared to Majora's Mask
>>730833614OP here, I genuinely enjoy Fucking Around in video games. But from an objective standpoint, it is kind of a pacebreaker.
>>730833892You don't have to care about the timeline unless you want to.I do though, and I think it's completely fine.
>you can’t hit Ganon at all unless your A button flashes the counter or zelda shoots him with a light arrow>the water flowing into the chamber means absolutely nothing, you can fight him for an hour and it will never fill a foot off the ground>muh wind *kidnaps children and subjugated the world to eternal night and tempests*Do windwaker babies really defend this turd of a game? Even the phantom ganon fight before this was more involving
