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Why isn't this a green card?
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you need a green card
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Bump
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>>730836160
because it's not obtainable as a card reward
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>you know that really cool fun build?
>were going to make it nigh impossible to get!
>anything other than focus/frost? what are you insane?!
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>>730836160
Because naming it Immigrant didn't pass the censors
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>>730840897
Same with Pressure Points. Mark could have been an interesting mechanic if they made more than one (1) card.
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>>730836160
this game is easy as fuck
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>>730844601
lel
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So the game "cheats" right?
I noticed if you play a power heavy deck you get the dog and if you play low cost or shiv decks you get time eater
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>>730844892
No, the whole thing has been data mined and shit, there's simulators that will tell you every random outcome for a given seed including the act 3 boss. it's just confirmation bias
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>>730844892
every deck you make must be some flavor of low cycle power spam
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>>730842536
It's not a hard game, but my little monkey brain has a problem of playing a good well built deck and then "... is that Creative AI?"
I then die on Act 3 by drawing 0 blocks.
>>730845205
Based Defect enjoyer
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>20 damage
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>>730840897
the subreddit is obsessed with this deck
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>>730840897
Claw is just kinda bad though, it's like worse rampage because defect can't exhaust their deck down nearly as fast as ironclad

The thing about frost-focus too is that unless you have stupid amounts of focus you still need an actual damage plan if you want to actually win act 3/4 at high ascension. Claw can be part of that but it scales really slowly and the heart punishes card spam anyways so there's much better options
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>>730844892
No the boss is part of the seed like the other anon said so the moment you start a run it is already determined. You should try to play around those bosses by not building your deck in a way that makes yourself vulnerable to them until you know who you're facing in act 3. Same with gremlin nob, don't take slow powers and block cards early and try to fight an early elite act 1 because you will just die 1/3rd of the time (or take so much damage your run dies later as a result)
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>>730840897
>All for one
>Scrape
Fixed that problem for you fampei

Also
>Streamline
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>>730847783
Claw is better than rampage because it's free and Defect does have a ton of ways to recur it. It's still bad but once in a rare while you end up in a spot where it is legitimately good. Rampage is just really, really bad, even if Ironclad can cycle his deck fast enough to make it work he would still usually rather have a Pommel Strike or something instead, he can win in a dozen ways at that point. Rampage's one niche is if you get offered no good damage and can't beat Guardian or Lagavulin sometimes you can take it and it will do 40 damage or so over the fight and then you treat it like a strike+ the rest of the run basically
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2x Madness
2x All for One

I only play the most fun Claw decks.
Or just get lucky with Snecko Eye and 2 All for Ones
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>>730850325
ENTER
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You ever just eat shit for no reason because you discarded your potion instead of drinking it? I have eaten such shit.
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>>730850996
That's a save and exit moment
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Duel Wield makes me feel warm and fuzzy
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I don't like Wraith form.
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>>730851174
Wraith Form is good with Apparition
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>>730850996
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>it's a "you're not getting Kunai or Shuriken or any get X after playing Y cards relic" run
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>>730851432
Anchor isn't enough for you? You greedy fuck.
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>>730851632
Anchor can be an insanely valuable relic. It makes innate powers safer.
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>>730844892
shiv decks rape time eater though? the worst thing you can do against time eater is use less than 12 attacks in a turn.
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>it's a "you pull zero defense cards during the boss's giga ultra nigger killer attack" episode
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>it's a you buy overwhelmingly positive deck builder and breeze through the first baby mode difficulty on the first run and then get super fucked on the next difficulty because you need to start thinking ahead instead of just going full yolo and then call the game RNG shit because you can't win anymore and then buy another overwhelmingly positive deck builder and breeze through the first baby mode difficulty on the first run episode
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>it's a he thinks RNG isn't a huge factor in a deck building game episode
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>>730847783
>an actual damage plan
blizzard?
it's been years since i played, but i remember trying frost and absolutely steamrolling.
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>>730853928
Blizzard is the absolute king of taking and pivoting off of due to lack of synergy. It does NOTHING by itself.
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Watcher paizuri
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>>730842536
t. xecnar
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>>730852603
Is this better or worse?
>buy an overwhelmingly positive deck builder and breeze through the first baby mode difficulty on the first run
>refund it for being too easy
Rana Card
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StS is ok but I still prefer Inscryption
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>>730854373
Inscryption is good for like the 1st hour of gameplay
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Uptick in StS shilling nearing the release of 2, I'm nooooticing
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I remember playing this like a year ago.
I got hardstuck on ascension 18 for all the characters and just moved on to other games.

Was I shit at the game or was this the normal experience?
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>>730837445
Hopefully she never gets one and goes to Alligator Alcatraz.
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>>730854620
And that's a good thing
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>>730850921
>always shows up on the turn where you're about to be hit with 30+
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>>730854757
A20 is doable either by bruteforcing until you get a broken combo or actually getting good. Whether you have the patience and mental capacity to get good is on you.
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>curse magnet
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>>730840897
Claw is the forbidden fruit of Slay the Spire. So tempting every time, but it's just gonna lead to suffering
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>>730840897
Every Claw build is just Frost with extra steps. I hope they actually make it decent in StS2 when he returns, because people will use it anyways
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>>730858957
Just get good.
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>>730859965
>1hp
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>>730860032
Look closer.
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>>730859965
Every single one of your relics is screaming at you to use a better build, except the fan.
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>>730854757
A19/A20 are meant to be unfair, as a challenge. I think A17 is probably the ceiling of normal play.
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>>730847783
>you still need an actual damage plan
Very often the solution for this is 'that ball lightning i picked up in act 1 to kill nob, except now i have 19 focus'
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post you're mods
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2955644379
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>>730862953
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1961933183
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>>730844892
no, humans are subject to all kind of cognitive biases that make randomness and probabilities hard to intuit and parse. you see this shit all the time when posters talk about xcom. when le 95% hit misses
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>>730860032
He still has the tail, ez.
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>>730858798
It's basically like picking up a curse.
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>>730862953
im still working on another modded character but making commons sucks
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For me, it's Ironlad.
Perfect balance of skill without the need for turbo-autistic calculations all the time.
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>>730850325
streamline is ass, all for one and scrape too rare to be viable
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>>730866106
sex
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>>730866106
brushy brushy the skol
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>>730867850
Unless I got a feed
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>>730850509
>board game adaptation's version of rampage
>1 damage per card in the exhaust pile
For context, 1 damage is a baseline for strike. Its fucking nutty.
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I asked someone to bring the board game to a boardgame meetup next saturday.
That will be the first time playing I'm curious how it'll be.
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>https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2947513553
>devs make board game version of the video game
>autists mod it back into the video game
kek
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>>730858798
I had an acension 16 or 17 that I obliterated with three copies of clash, but that was more because it was a defensive deck with good exhaust so I would clear my hand of all skills then lay into the encounter with clash and body slam+
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So what's gonna happen to this fanbase when the sequel comes out, everyone's mad that it's ugly addictive RNG shit, before realizing the original was that too?
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>>730870682
The content from spire 1 will get ported to spire 2 since it is allegedly better for modding.
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>get tough bandages early with your half decent discard deck
Easy as pie a20 win


Add a blur and whatever powers boost block gain and you can just chain blocks and outlast heart for any number of turns

Felt 100% safe after half of act2
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>>730866106
This girl looks like she STINKS
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>>730869862
It's like playing the normal game except everything takes 10 times longer.
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>>730872325
Some cards are completely redesigned and the coop element is an entertaining change of pace.
Dont expect to grind your face with the A20 equivalent, though.
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I got everyone to ascension level 6, then took a break and forgot everything, give tips
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>>730874591
Get relics.
Take good cards
Dont take bad cards, remove bad cards if you can.
Dont focus build for the far future, build for the near future because dying prevents you from getting to the far future.
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>>730874591
you don't need to kill the heart to win so take risks, but don't take as many risks as you would actually trying to slay the spire
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>brown with white hair and green eyes
What race is that even supposed to be
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>>730863907
the new xcoms do lie about probability in all but the highest difficulty.

Like when it says 85% chance to hit, it's actually 95%. The ability to assess is so bad in scrubs that they still think it cheats against them instead of for them.
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>>730855858
>mfw I never noticed
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>>730876036
I believe its on youtube but there is a video of a guy actually missing a 100% chance to hit on XCOM 2. I am almost certain its a bug however but the game negated the damage and continued the turn like nothing happened.
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>>730875496
fanta'sea
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>>730860032
>7 block
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>>730876484
its in one of the beta cards for watcher
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>vanilla StS
>add 2 Weak to all enemies
>modded StS
>if the enemy have Vulnerable, Weak and over 80 HP while you have Bag of Marbles and Turnip, deal 8 damage and gain Shackled equal to the amount of blocked damage. If you have less than 23 HP on a Friday of August during a full moon, gain 3 Temporary Dexterity that get removed after gaining Block, unless you're facing Snecko and have at least 3 Shivs in your hand, where you then gain 5 Bamboozled+. If you have at least 3 Status cards in your deck, 173 gold and the enemy intent to use a Debuff while in Divinity Stance, EVERYONE received 3 Hex and Constricted.
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>>730877959
I actually wrote a modded card that was based around the amount of blocked damage it dealt, its different now though
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>>730877959
Modding the game to make Yugioh-esque card rules defeats the purpose of making a simple casual deck builder you don't have to jump through autistic hoops for. Cards that read like that are why Yugioh lost its charm in the first place because it appealed to sweats.
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>>730880945
Cards need tons of text when the rules aren't tight enough to cover the amount of edge cases that will inevitably come up. This is an eventually problem for every TCG that refuses to amend their rules
Simply play better card games
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>>730850996
StS is entirely about your decision making, your mechanical skill and how you even interface with the game is arbitrary. If you ever make a mechanical mistake like clicking end turn by accident or discarding a potion you meant to drink or throw, you're not cheating yourself or the game at all by saving and exiting and then replaying the combat as it happened up until that mechanical mistake.
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>finally beat A19 after 22 straight losses
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>>730868027
The game changes drop rates based on what you pick. Streamline is the highest dps card in the game
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>>730881643
>The game changes drop rates based on what you pick.
What
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>>730881643
Streamline is good for early game but really doesn't do anything come late game

You draw it vs Time Eater whatchu gonna do huh pay 2 energy for 20 damage ?
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>>730881272
When you're making your foundational rules so open ended it leads to cards reading like a readers digest short story then I'd argue you failed in making a good TCG in the first place.
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Tried the watcher for the first time and I have no idea what I'm doing. Also I suddenly have to collect some badges now and boss icons glow
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>>730883293
You want to constantly be switching between stances
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>weakest silent turn 1
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>>730881879
It goes down in energy cost brah

>>730881781
>he hasn't noticed
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>>730885259
I was asking because it's not technically wrong but I want to know what you mean if it is rarities or if you're memeing about the game knowing your deck archetype and not giving you the cards you want.
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>>730884590
what were they even thinking with sundial, it should have been in shop like abacus
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I don't know why I like all the characters, but I absolutely loathe ironclad. The build I like is BIG DEFENSE and that's it for her.
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>>730885631
They were thinking: wow this is fun (it is)
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>>730840897
I almost got it boss, almost...
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>>730886095
those are some dogshit boss relics
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>>730886190
The options were really bad.
>Ectoplasm (when I already had meal ticket which wanted me to heal at shops)
>Pandora's box (on the meme deck that funnily enough doesn't mind the strikes around instead of getting a trillion orb cards)
>Philosopher's stone (my deck wanted to race enemies)
>Snecko (didn't fit this deck)
It was a meme run, but at least I made it to he heart.
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>>730858798

Best card in the game before ascensions start throwing curses in your deck then it becomes garbo without medkit
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>>730844601
what happens if you play on ac0?
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>>730881879
You can definetly build a deck that does like 80% of your damage by just playing streamline over and over again on A20H. Block with frost, a couple of holograms, some card draw, maybe recycle.
I do it often enough.
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>>730844601
That looks like Phil Foglio art from the original MtG sets.
>>730840897
What's even going on in the right card's illustration?
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>>730881879
streamline absolutely can be your damage solution in act 3
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>>730887786
Dr.Claw reference.
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>>730844892
>"oh man, I got these super fun cards, if I can just get a [common card] or [other common card] once, this will be awesome"
>card refuses to drop or appear in shops for all three acts
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>>730887864
Oh, wow, I barely even remember Inspector Gadget.
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>>730887786
I wasn't imagining it, but it was his wife who did the art.
Also I can't believe how much this is selling for, I might need to clean out my attic and find it.
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>>730836160
Anyone find good custom Act mods? I've done the Library of Ruina mod which I enjoyed and currently doing the Hollownest mod which has been very okay so far.
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Please post Watcher pics
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>>730890030
I've only seen one based on some gachashit HSR. It seemed to have some new mechanics like every enemy and you having a new kind of block but I didn't delve too deep into it. I did not really understand the mechanics because at some point cards would autoplay themselves and shit would happen every turn.
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>>730889383
Most of the Arabian Night cards are expensive due to the limited run.
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>>730887937
Thats me looking for decent block cards after finally getting a synergized attack portion of my deck set up.
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>>730890030
the "bundle of" set of mods add a bunch of superbosses that you can challenge that effectively replace act 4 if you decide to do so
downfall is also technically an act mod
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>>730891176
I didn't know it was a limited run. Why was it limited?
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>mt2 paid dlc has a metaprogression mode
hope sts 2 doesn't do this shit
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>>730891681
It was an expansion with a small print run and an incredibly large amount of those cards are on never reprint lists.
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>>730886095
>>730886190
Cage is one of my favorite picks from a boss relic

Maybe only astrolabe is higher up
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>>730891728
Really? How bad is it?
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>>730892483
We don't know, cause it's part of the dlc coming out in February.
It's separate to the main campaign and it's not the only thing the DLC offers (they also have a bew clan)
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nice
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>>730836160
I've been playing the physical version with some friends and it's been a blast. Are there any multiplayer mods for the original version?
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>>730844892
how big is your sample size? there are only 3 bosses
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>>730893738
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2384072973
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>>730893517
Meh, I'll keep an eye out I guess. I enjoyed both games, so the idea of metaprogression in it is really disappointing.
I'm not opposed to unlocking new shit as you play like ToME and Binding of Isaac, but just flat out getting better stats and shit is annoying because 99/100 the game is expecting you to heavily abuse it to make progress.
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>>730893879
Thanks
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>>730862953
Slay the spire if it was yugioh
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>>730889383
It's like THE meme card that everyone knows
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>>730892216
Isn't every release since the original an expansion?
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>>730895479
It is? I swear this is the first time I saw it since the 90s. Anywhere else it's been referenced come to mind?
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>>730896015
An expansion without a block.
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STS2 should have the boss card reward and relic on the same screen. Agree or disagree, and why.
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>>730896494
You could argue there's decision making to be made if you can't choose the relic before the card reward, but I don't understand why it is set up that way. For elites for example you can choose the relic or the card first, I think that should change.
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>>730896494
there aren't any more boss relics
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>>730875207
>you don't need to kill the heart to win
you didn't beat the game
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>>730896924
He can't beat the game until he reached A20 anyways.
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>>730896756
Wot.
Let's hope they know what they're doing and they won't upend the whole gameplay formula just to be different.
On the other hand we don't need STS1 again only with new graphics.
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>>730897146
if you've been following the newsletters they're replacing it with that new start of act stuff, I'm okay with it because a lot of the time boss relics were "how easily can you ignore the downside" instead of actually interacting with the downside, especially for relics like coffee dripper and fusion hammer
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>>730836160
>Make it to A18 defect
>Never get good cards
>Never get good pots
>If I have a good starting bonus I am going to job by going for all the elites and not having enough power
>Act 2 elites are hard to defeat because my relics are mostly junk
>If I don't beat the elites I am stuck dealing zero damage to the act 2 boss
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Got some Bites and Apparitions again. I love free wins.
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>>730850921
>Do not get offered an energy relic
>>730850996
I don't know what that is like
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>>730847783
>The thing about frost-focus too is that unless you have stupid amounts of focus you still need an actual damage plan if you want to actually win act 3/4 at high ascension. Claw can be part of that but it scales really slowly and the heart punishes card spam anyways so there's much better options
Bias Cognition, artifact, static discharge. Static discharge is superior to thorns against the heart, also static discharge can evoke more frost orbs
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>click through the book event in act 2 losing half my health
>it's fucking nilry's again
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>>730854757
Watcher > Ironclad >>>>> Silent >>> Dogshit >>>>>>>>> Defect
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I FUCKING LOVE LESSON LEARNED
I LOVE HAVING MY DECK UPGRADED FOR FREE
OOOOH I'M GOING TO UPGRADE
I'M UPGRADIIIIIIIIIIIIINGGG
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>>730860032
And he still has the fairy potion and tail.
>>730860145
Maybe his pandoras box gave him a lot of claws
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>>730858798
The card is the curse lil pup
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>>730897902
Who said you need to fight elites and that being good or bad at bosses has one thing to do with another?
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>>730898640
>it’s the best relic
Dumb as nigga
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>>730901751
>yes I would like random unupgraded garbage in my carefully assembled deck
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>>730897902
>Make good use of your potions (enter act 1 elites with at least one potion relevant for your deck that applies to the elite matchups if possible, i.e vulnerable for lagavulin/goblin, burst block, dexterity for sentries, flex potion is excellent act 1 etc)
>Prioritize damage cards for the first half ot act 1, prioritize defense cards and powers on the second half of act 1 so you can rape as many elites as possible (obviously if you get gigakino like glacier extra orbs hologram and multiple defrags do that instead)
>Entering a shop to remove a card and buy a potion if you don't have one just before fighting an elite is good enough
Congratultions, every single one of your runs will at least reach act 3 now.
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>>730902146
You know you can reject the cards you absolute troglodyte?
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>>730902146
Getting win conditions that you don't already have randomly gifted for one rest worth's of HP is deceptively strong. I used to think it was trash too. But you win games that you have absolutely no business winning yet.
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>>730902146
yes i would please thank you
card gen is broken, so pick 3 card gen is GIGA broken
aka why discovery is the best colorless card in the game
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>>730844892
Rape victims lose one run on A5 and start talking about how the entire world is out to get them, lel
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>>730903962
Would send into the piston trap.
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Why do I have the same winrate on zero ascension as ascension 8-10?
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>>730840897
>NOOO I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO USE DISCARDS AND PASS ON CARD REWARDS I WANT 90001 CLAW CARDS AND I WANT THEM NOW AND ALSO IT SHOULD MULTIPLY YOUR DAMAGE BY 2 NOT ADD 2 I WANT TO PLAY BALATRO
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I've really grown to enjoy baalord's gameplay videos, the dude is funny. And the reasoning for his pathing and card choices is sound most of the time. Good shit, thanks to whoever recommended them a few threads ago.
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>>730906279
>them
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Can StS2 come out already, I don't want to pick StS1 back up and burn out
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>>730907885
"videos" is plural last time I checked
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I've become retarded. I cannot win a A20 Defect heart run anymore.
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Bump
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>>730898640
>Oh sweet the necronomicon event, that would be awesome here I hope I get it
>Click click click click
>The "No thank you I just wanted to waste 9hp for no reason" button shows up in the same spot at the button you were just clicking
>Politely decline the book before you even know what it is
I've done this more than once
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I suck at playing with the watcher, havent even beaten the game with it, any good strat I should aim to?
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>>730855858
my ancestor :)
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Monster train 1 or 2?
I already own 1 but having to grind all the card unlocks again when I get 2 seems annoying.
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>>730910546
you just want as many stance switch cards as possible and then a bunch of draw or a single rushdown
and you can take like one big chunky attack like sands or reach heaven, and then 1-2 big blocks like wallop or halt
shes actually really simple once you understand your order of operations is
>get wrath
>play attacks
>get calm or empty
and that you generally want a lot of draw to get all of that in one hand

you can also hard turtle with her with mantra but its kinda boring, you do a lot of
>play block
>pass
just waiting for devotion to tick up or something
at least until you get the pray loops started and then you just have infinite damage and energy at all times
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>Build DoubleTap Whirlwind and OTK deck
>Breeze through Act 1 and Act 2. Get to Act Three and just decimating opponents
>Get a second Transient
>NBD just need to survive one more turn deck is out DPS the Transient
>Somehow get all my block cards on the last turn the Transient is alive
>MFW I lose a really OP build to a bad draw
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I think I've played three or four games "inspired by" or directly ripping off Slay the Spire, but I've never played the original. Is it still the best in the sea of roguelite deckbuilders that have come since?
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Inserter and Consume is so dumb.
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>>730889383
>ante
Combine kids with no idea how the cards or game actually worked with the idea of tranfer of possessions and the recipe for disaster was ready.
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>>730921485
I member putting basic lands in ante. they were more expensive back then and everyone wanted more. Heck I even member paying for entry by selling my basic lands to the shop.
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>>730898286
>>Do not get offered an energy relic
Gotta get that Turbo+
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>>730921131
That's a mighty Rasengan
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>>730844892
nearly every aspect of a run is set in stone via the seed; your actions are the only independent variable
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>>730854373
>dude le meta deletion of the game world :OOOO
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>>730913937
Monster Train 2 is much more fun than 1 in my opinion.



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