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Almost 10 years later how do /v/ncs feel about Square attempt at a modern retro style game series?
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>>730837531
Forced soul
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>>730837531
I'll never know because I don't buy 2dhd shit as a rule.
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Octoslop traveler. You've played one JRPG you played them all.
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>>730837531
The DQ remakes were good. Don't care about the rest
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I'm still mad that there was no overarching narrative or meaningful character interactions between the cast. Why the fuck would you play a JRPG focused on characters when all of the characters in your party have barely superficial relationships with each other and the entire story is just split up into 8 parts that never interact with each other directly? I still remember even days after the game came out people were still coping about the final boss where the story coalesces for a single dungeon made up for that.
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>influential
No one actually believes this.
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>>730837531
>one of the most influential by which I mean only game released
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>influential
I believe this. Octopath 2's one of the greatest RPGs of all time.
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>>730837531
It's better than anything else they put out since then
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>>730837531
Octopath is the last good IP square has left that isn't remake spam.
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>>730837531
>Bravely series died for this
lol
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>>730837531
>one of the most influential
Name 5 games it influenced.
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I've tried all three and think they're all boring as fuck. That's okay though because other people really like them and I don't think every game should be made for me.
I do love the same engine being used for Star Ocean 2R though; shit was kino.
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>>730839703
I have conflicting feelings about the fact TWEWY gets to dodge this treatment because only a handpicked group of square's remaining talent are even allowed to breath in it's general direction at the cost of it taking roughly a decade for them to even think about making another one
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>>730840556
>I do love the same engine being used for Star Ocean 2R
You are a complete retard. Octopath is on Unreal and SO2R is Unity.
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>>730840475
Considering how hard Second shit the bed, nothing of value was lost.
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>>730840475
Based
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>>730841724
Second had better writing and combat than Default
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>>730837531
>flop after flop after flop
How long until Square goes bankrupt?
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I'm playing 2 and almost have all 8 characters. It looks like I've explored like 50% of the world map. I hope it doesn't reuse areas and dungeons.
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>>730837531
>influential
Square Enix can't make anything influential anymore.
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You just know that it has the stupid codename "Octopath Traveler" as its finalized title because Kitase probably forbade any use of the name Final Fantasy outside of the AAA garbage they pump out now. This, Bravely Default, and Triangle Strategy (also stupid dev codenames) would be FF spinoffs if they were released earlier.
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>people keep claiming they want more "four niggas in a row" games from SE instead of the button-mashing actionslop they're putting out now.
>Octopath exists
>DQ exists
>nobody cares
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>>730843368
Sheep who won't buy a game without the name Final Fantasy.
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>can go into a town, beat the shit out of every adult, and steal from every man, woman, and child
>they never acknowledge this
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If it's so influential, then why are there no non-SE games in this style?
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>>730837531
It's fun enough. I've bought and played all three games
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>>730843712
This is fine. Videogames should be videogamey. I'm tired of everything needing to be diegetic and make perfect sense, to the detriment of the game design.
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i got half way through 0 and haven't played it in like 3 weeks
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I wanted to like it but it just isn't very good. The gameplay is very basic and the characters are bland. I'd rather just replay Chrono Trigger or Live A Live.
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>>730837531
>hey lets have a decent artstyle
>now let's drown it in every postprocessing effect imaginable so it looks like shit.
The DQ ones can look alright if you turn off the postprocessing stuff with unreal unlocker. The only one that looks good out of the box is Live A Live
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>>730842802
there's no reuse, but most maps are pretty basic anyway
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>>730843368
I've bitching for a literal decade about this >>730838261

You don't care when people like me bring up actual criticisms. You just want your easily digestible shitpost that you can feel smug about later.
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>>730838261
>>730844613
I felt scammed when I bought the first game around release only to learn they don't interact. I can accept the gimmick now, but unless I'm misremembering they really made it sound like the party interacted back when they marketed the first one.
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>>730837531
I might try this out. See if it's any good.
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>>730844890
Skip the first one and try 2.
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>>730843368
>bad games exist
I'll continue to wait for good ones.
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>>730845087
Don’t listen to her
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>>730844613
It's a reasonable criticism, but the fundamental design of the game restricts that. You pick whoever you want to start with. Then you gather whoever you want. Then you do their stories in any order. There are too many permutations to create meaningful interactions. There were some duo stories plus the finale, but adding much more on top of that would extend the length of the game.
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>>730837531
The only good games S-E outputs these days
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>>730837531
Their mistake was making it originally Nintendo exclusive*. Would've done better had it been on PS4 first like they intended.
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>>730837531
i think they're a solid entry into jrpgs in general. Wouldn't put them in the best of the best, but they aren't quite as anime as a FF game would be. They tend to be much more grounded, if a bit melodramatic
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>>730837531
I am still filtered by the quality translation.
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>>730837531
I love it and the trend should continue
Give me more
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I liked how star ocean used a really detailed world to replace the prerendered backgrounds more than octopaths style.
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>>730846190
It's a lot less overbearing with the effects compared to normal HD-2D. And it is clever here since the original already had the stark contrast between sprites and detailed backgrounds.
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>>730846190
this looks as janky as astlibra dude
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I was hoping 1/2 would get switch 2 updates. Currently I don’t have much interest in buying 0 minding it’s a mobile game
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>influential
Octopath Traveler superficially resembles those actually influential games it's aping.
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I'm liking Octopath 0 but man Oshkas final chapter was pretty dumb the townspeople together or even the player party could have just fought their way out of town through the cultists.
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>>730837531

having a shit plot is the cardinal sin of jrpgs
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>>730837531
Garbage, extremelly mediocre and repetitive gameplay and 2DHD ruined the Dragon Quest's remakes
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>>730837531
>/v/ncs
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>>730843712
You have to bribe the Bart Ender to clear your name if you get caught too much.
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I'm not through with collecting all 8 yet, but this guy is the biggest chad of the bunch.
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I need to see Temenos get gentle femdommed by the brown, womanlet Ochette. Seriously though, from what I played of 1 and 2, they're not bad games. The games have a great idea, but Square is too scared to fully commit. Here's what I think Square could have done to make the games more interesting and entertaining:
>Commit to being the jelly donut version of a crpg
>To make it easier for everyone on the dev team, instead of letting you pick the starting character, just make someone from the main cast the protag. E.g: Therion for 1, Temenos for 2
>Keep the tackling the story in any way you want aspect
>You should have to tard wrangle and handle the autism of your party members. People like Partitio and Agnea should be having problems with characters like Throné being on your team. Throné should genuinely be willing to kill your party members if they get in her way and you're not paying attention
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Is it like the original DQ4 where characters still have random dialogue in various places or like the botched NDS translation where they just removed all random dialogue?
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>>730837531
I like the visual style. My complaints with Octopath are more related to the story and party interaction (or lack thereof).
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Ochette sexo
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>>730847514
Was it autism?
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>>730837531
completely forgettable and nothing new
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>>730838335
It influenced Square-Enix to release mountains of HD-2D slop
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>>730837531
HD-2D is the ugliest piece of shit artstyle ever. It's even worse than your "hire this man" -unreal engine slopstyle.
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>>730848937
I bet she smells amazing.
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>>730837531
Is it true Octopath outsold Final Fantasy?
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>>730838261
>I'm still mad that there was no overarching narrative or meaningful character interactions between the cast.
but ummmm...there is both?
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>>730842802
Characters sometimes go to the same towns but dungeons aren't ever reused
I think every level 45 area is also unique
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>>730847514
He is up there
Between him, Throne, Castti and Themenos you've can get a real despair squad going
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>>730837642
Forced post
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>>730846709
The only thing about Zero that betrays its mobile game roots is the graphics going back to the style and quality of the first game without all the improvements and flourishes of II. Aside from that it's 100% regular Octopath from story to gameplay to amount of content, and adds cool features of its own like the town building, the giant party with recruitable characters and the back row mechanic from the final battle of II now being the standard combat system. If you like the first two games you really shouldn't sleep on it.
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>>730837531
the final boss fights are great. Way better than what Live a Live Remake had for bosses, piss easy and impossible to lose
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>>730837531
I havent beaten the first one yet, I got filtered by the low amount of money gained, I still have shitty equipment and can't kill anything in chapter 2
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>>730837531
Ludokino
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>>730838101
Are they just graphical remakes?
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>>730837531
It's fucking horrible unless you edit an ini to turn of all the blur, bloom, and DoF. You can't turn it off in game though because go fuck yourself. That's before even getting into the story or gameplay parts that are shit.
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>>730853021
Items are really powerful in those games so they bottleneck you hard
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>>730837531
>octosleep



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