Why are you so scared of AI in video games?
>>730840702>don't know about you guys, but this AI hype prints me trillions, idk why you hate it hahaWhat else did you expect from him?
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>>730840702Name one thing AI improved.
I'm scared of the gargantuan crash that is clearly coming
Because AI is trillion dollar digital scissors whose sole purpose is to cut corners. All of these companies are pushing it so hard because they've all chosen to scale up exponentially in an endless cycle with no forethought whatsoever.
>>730840894me personally im excited for it
>>730840702It's so funny watching all these CEO breakdowns about consumer rejecting aiHoping for Altman suicide when it all falls apart, maybe the same for some of the politicians who blew all the taxpayers money on this shit.
>>730840702I hate india
>>730840821Free time for lazy "vibe coding" codemonkeysThey love ai
don't talk badly about AI, pathetic humans
>>730840702If AI assists in game development leads to less time spent and smaller budgets, the price of the end-product should be lessened to reflect that.Instead we're being fed slop and being asked to pay more for it.
>big corpo suit motherfucker tells me not to do something>immediately continue doing it
>>730841116You can't be excited because you personally will pay for it. The jews will want their trillions back and the US government will bail them out. This will stress ALL banks ALL around the worldYou will literally pay to cover up jew spendings
TRIGGER WARNING
>>730840821troons and women are madder than ever
>>730841251meh im a broke zoomer i dont have anything to lose just so long as it gets worse for them
>>730841145>Hoping for Altman suicideThe jew will expect you to suicide in realityHe will be alrightOr do you think jews will lose money?Haha
>>730841189If someone in a position of power is suspected to be a psychopath you should be able to trigger a forced evaluation and if they fail they should be sent to a psych ward.
>>730841203Development times would shorten instead of bloating to 15 years and longer.
Dude reminds me of Gavin Belson
>>730840702I do not fear ai I hate it for being cancer. When investors move onto the next scam it'll disappear the problem is the damage it does to quality in the meantime.
>>730840821We reinvented a shittier version of Siri and Google searches for no reason.
>>730840821AI has improved /v/ a thousand fold.
>>730840702I'm a pirateBvll so I literally do not care
>>730841282I almost choked on my spit, wtf are you doing, nigger>huh, it missed L because G takes two squares>K is for Lion? huhh?>O is for...?>Q is for...?>Yak. Just Yak.>Y IS FOR ZEBRA (not pictured)>Z IS FOR URBA. WHAT THE FUCK IS URBA>WHY IS THERE A "B" AGAINI laughed out loudThis is the future btwIndians and lazy programmers LOVE aiMy favorite animal is X-ray btw
If I knew in advance how awful the world would be in the future, I would've strangled myself with my umbilical cord.
>>730840702The people who can't imagine an apple in their mind's eye invented AI as revenge it's so over
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>>730841498Lion. King of beasts. lmao.
AI is the future
>>730841282Anything sequential created by AI will just be a stream of constant tik-tok-like editing. This shit has less memory than an Alzheimer's patient.
>>730840702i'm worried because it was released too early for too many people for way too little money. that shit should've stayed in the darpa labs.
DLSS was an AI creation, curious how you all ignored this
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>>730841683If anything it was released too lateEarly sub use could have been some kind of revenue while they built up the big one, instead they sunk actual billions in without any profitability and they can only bluff for so long before it comes crashing down on whoever is holding the bagWhich will be the US, and anyone living in it that isnt a billionaire
>>730841282Fucking indians
>>730841650100% That the hours spent is just that guy generating endless slop, until he found an image he liked.
>>730841936>S is for Snake (represented by 2 carrots)what the FUCK
>>730841875>you allThis thread is about 4 people (bots potentially) maximum talking to each other and samefagging. It's been the same guy for the past week or so making these threads.
>>730840702I'm not scared of AI, I'm scared of the people who overestimate it.
>>730840702Im afraid of ai causing mass unemployment and world governments committing genocide. The people who say ubi will be implemented are hopelessly naive. You will be purged.
>>730841936>>730842069>V is for snake>/v/ is full of snakesNaruhodo...
>>730842110Same thing is happening to /v/.
>>730840821I get weird enjoyment having it clean me up in photos including post adjustment.
>>730841936Ylah
>>730841319see you just gotta fix ai hallucinations ANON
>>730841875Yeah dude, I love that AI has allowed video game developers to become even lazier despite the stagnation of graphical advancements. I love that every new game I buy on PC cant even run at native 1080p and has relentless artifacting. I love that it looks like I smeared Vaseline all over my screen. I love the ghosting you see on objects. Yeah man DLSS is the best. Theres times where DLSS HAS worked but I can name them on 1 hand.
>>730840821Masturbation
>>730841936I don't even fucking understand why this shit makes me LOLIt's so retardedI swear, it has that certain "dumb humor" vibeI love dumb humor, but the worst part is that this shit is doing it seriously>Jagar>Wolf XenopsI fucking laughed again>Z z>y̶̨̔ǐ̵̤͚t̴͖̝̂h̶̳̊m̵̭̀ǎ̶̞
>>730840702>invest trillions into AI with nothing to show for it>g-guys AI is not badCan't wait for the AI bubble to burst.
>>730842564>AI slop infesting NSFW boards instead of real pornAI has only made it harder to find W faps
>>730840702that stupid chinese faggot should be executed
>>730841650This has to be trolling, no?
>>730841282Google's isn't much better.
>>730840702I'm not even anti-AI, I just don't get why part of the plan is making sure I can't build a computer.Local models are literally the best.
>>730842684no
>>730842250You can justify it by that viper is a snakeIdk
>>730842670The problem here is you are not using your own AI to roleplay, gen pics and gen videos of your incredibly specific fetish scenarios.
Artists sold out, putting everything on social media, boosting it, pushing awful fetishes for money and now they're being harvested for data and they can't be satisfied that they got their free lunch because they've devolved into economic parasites. I only wish AI could hurt them more.
>>730842569>I love dumb humorhey, i have something for you
>>730840821It's better than google, because google went to shit due to Search engine optimization. AI is probably going to experience the same shit where companies start paying Google/ChatGPT (Who the fuck uses the rest lol) to front load their websites in any query about a subject.I can't understate how bad google as a search engine got though.
>>730840702Morons don't know how to use it effectively and just use it to cheat their work like grade-schoolers do. AI could be amazing if those lazy tards actually used it for things other than art design, like actual enemy and npc AI where the advancement is supposed to be.
>>730842484>you just gotta fix ai hallucinationsIt's impossible btw"Neural networks" are supposed to make shit up by designEnjoy your inherently broken """AI"""
>>730842715Yeah they completely forgot the Urba
>>730840702>Real Estate Agent tells you why now is the best time to buy a house.
>>730840702makes computers more expensivethe inevitable crash when AGI never happens will reset that and will blast video game studios back thirty years, which is a good thing
>>730842747>this effect was made by meWhat does he mean?That he "invented" the words "day to night transition" to put them into prompt textboxes?If yes, then these people are insaneLike, unironically delusional and mentally retarded
and here's why>our entire industry's capital has been almost completely leveraged to invest in AI tech>we need you to adopt this shit en masse so we can pay it back and turn a profit>the entire western tech industry is in grave danger of collapse
>>730842731you just answered your own question buddy.
>>730842784>TFW you're whittling down a prompt to what you want but some funny quirk in it sends you off on a tangent and you refuse to change itAnd then anon had dozens of videos of Duke Nukem tackling and fucking obese cosplayers at conventions
>>730842784What's good for images and videos locally? I want to make a bunch of incredibly embarassing and autistic videos about myself.
>>730840821Porn. Research. Programming/coding.
>>730842853I wanted to say it wasn't funny at first but then I smiledI like it, it's just that lighthearted dumb humor>TROPICAL JOHNSFunny!
>>730842879>Google something>AI feature is literally always on using 15 gallons per search.>AI summary is wrong 70% of the time.Very cool. Glad we're all paying for it.
>>730840702>Guy who makes more money than God on the AI craze wants the AI craze to continueFucking shocker.
>>730843204Oh and the population is pretty much regurgitating AI tech, because they wanted to shove it into everything too quick
>>730840821Porn for sure even after all the attempts to neuter it.
>>730840702Oh it's fine go ahead and use whatever. I won't pay for it though.
People forget that he was mostly chastising sam altman for constantly saying that AI will replace humanity or some dumb shit like that.
>>730840702they're yet to explain to me a use case that makes my life better.so far it just sounds like he wants to make more and bigger datacentres so they can siphon my income that I no longer have because his chips replaced me.what exactly am I, or for that matter is he, excited about?
>>730840821>Framerates>protein folding>information retrieval and analysis efficiency>internet search>ability of solo indie devs to make games (no longer do you need to be an artist, musician, and programmer)>accessibility (spelling aids for dyslexia, navigation for blind people)>live video frame interpolation>helped quite a few mathematical proofs and algorithmic efficiencyAnd thats only the objectively good things, nevermind the small quality of life gains it enables"AI" (by which you mean deep generative models) is only hated by midwits who are too stupid to use it correctly but too "smart" to enjoy "slop"
>>730842879>It's better than googleWhoopsie! Found a lie! In your first sentence!Ding-ding-ding-ding!I just LOVE when you catch these "better than google" shits lying, point out their mistakes and they be like >UHHHH I'M SORRY FOR MISINFORMATION, I ACTUALLY MEANT *says another lie and makes up a nonexisting word in the process*Are all of your questions so retarded that you're satisfied with basic ass replies that could be found in the very first google result? Because in my case when I ask something, it makes up bullshit 20% of the time and then it apologizes every time when I catch it and it's really patheticAlso once some jewish safeguards kick in, it starts to give bland non-answers or straight up ingores your questions
>>730843429Is there any evidence for LLMs actually producing half of those things that weren't protein folding and mathematical proofs.Especially when it comes to productivity.
>>730843114It turns out they didn't hate artists for being lefties, they hated artists because they wanted to be artists too but weren't willing to actually learn how.
>>730840821alphafold is cool,it's eventual use in looking at huge data sets that people used to have to look at (maps, MRIs, XRAYs, anything really) AI translation is better than traditional MTL.other than that it's really just a waste of time, LLM's especially.what humanity needed was robots to shovel shit on farms, not write essays and generate anime women.
>>730843429>spelling aids for dyslexiaWindows 95 had it natively.
>>730840702Go cry me a river jackettroon
>>730840821Nvidia's stock
>>730841650ah yes, the endless hours of copy pasting "improve this prompt" over and over again, running a script that makes the AI auto generate 1 trillion pictures of your prompt and then picking the one you like the most is definitely hard work. its harder key out the background of an image in photoshop than this shit
Can someone explain this to me? What makes them seethe so much about AI?
>>730840702I can't wait to have a chatbot in every game that will upsell me Tide detergent Thank you Jensen
>>730843530Leftists for their reputation for being weak-willed pessimists do tend to be more willing to take risks, tolerate off-putting shit, like more obscure media and are willing to put in time and effort in a hobby that many see as "Not worth the time"
>>730843557I need it to generate anime women to shovel shit into my mouth
>>730840821my boredom, i like proompting
>>730842853I've laughed at "Vinegar Husbands" every time this was posted since I first saw it years ago
>>730842853Anyone notice that casual AI texts tend to have a lot of "u"s in it.
>>730841650>attach qwenvl3 to your text prompt>write 3 words as a base prompt>qwen does the rest>le artistic output.jpg
SAAAAR YOU'RE A LEFTISTSAAAAR ONLY TRANNIES HATE AI
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>>730842853>river nubs>dirt rockets>yard meat
>>730842853>Xenoblade Chronicle items
>>730843781It benefits straight white men. Now they can't just dump futa bestiality niggers in your face 24/7.
>>730843976People who are good at math can't use calculators. The computer can't think for you.
>>730840702AI could potentially help do some cool things like not just random dungeon generation but making unique assets (like an actual weapon or piece of armor you can wear) on the fly that only exist as unique pieces. So everyone would have actually handcrafted unique characters. But.. that's not how it's being used so far and not how techbro VCs want to use it, they don't really play games or worse yet think because that they played 20 years ago that they get the mindset. So they see AI as just a labor saver and force multiplier for shit barebones devs to successfully half ass something that normally they never would have had a chance to share out.In other words, rather like how it is used in coding and art, it's in practice much more of an enabler of untalented inexperienced content production more than an accelerator for skilled producers. A lot of people seem unable to articulate the exact problem into words why AI triggers them, but that is precisely the problem is that letting people fake a trained skill doesn't mean they can actually do it well now. If someone wanted to be a good artist or writer for real he probably would have put a lot more effort in his life into doing that for real. People are not gonna spend years perfecting their skills just to draw their ideal picture of Midna anal voreing SpongeBob or something but they are willing to type thosesl words into a prompt to see if do a slot machine attempt at that. That is fine if they acknowledge that they are utilizing slop as a sketchpad to make bullshit, I will grant that, but it doesn't now make that person a real artist any more than commissioning an artist to draw that idea.
>>730841282>>730841936I think this is proof that the so-called "Artificial Intelligence" we have right now are really just glorified algorithms
>>730843976Exactly.
maybe 5% of the new things proposed by AI tech are actually useful improvements or things that we weren't previously able to do with ease beforethe other 95% of new things will run its course until the company making it runs out of funding and crashes and burnsafter JPow retires, Trump is going to put a new guy at the fed that will do his bidding and lower rates, buying bagholders a few years to make off with their winnings legally and get off the ridethen during the next democratic presidency or trump's lame duck period, the fed will do the right thing and correct the market by raising interest rates, popping the bubble
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>>730843976So AI is just liked by talentless hacks? I wonder if companies are going to wake up to the fact these prompt engineers are worthless and will get sacked.
>>730840702The world will remember every single one of these AI magnates. The reckoning shall be fulfilled.
>>730844121Harmony exists, sorry Herzog
>>730843934It's trained on everything including comment sections and chat logs of increasingly more illiterate and lazy population. It's just configured to spit out walls of text instead of "k rape u ltr"
>>730843781trans people are more likely to be creativescreatives hate AI because it makes their lives worse
>>730841936This shit reminds me of dreaming. Like the dreams you have when you eat too much after going to bed. Hazy, confused, blurred, and containing some recognizable structure that dissolves into meaninglessness as soon as you look at it with anything more than a glance.
>>730843781Ranjesh, your gaslighting doesn't workTID
>>730840702all instances i've seen of it do not improve anything in a significant way. especially for the cost it demands.
>>730844145>I wonder if ceos will wake up to the fact that easy free labor is worthless and will fire them
>>730843807Some people think they can be great and are proven wrong most of time.But everyone who is sure they cant achieve something are always correct and they fear being wrong more than they fear being ass.
>>730844267You are mad tranny? You will never be woman.
>>730844065Yes, basically its glorified auto complete based on whatever data it is fed, and doesn't actually understand what it is creating or saying. It's why relying on it for questions or anything like that is dangerous. It doesn't know shit, and is also potentially subverted by just rewording your question.
>>730844145>I wonder if companies are going to wake upIt's already happeningTurns out, three cheap juniors with AI can't replace an expensive senior (with the same AI)It's happening worldwide right now as we speak because cheap retards with AI can't do shitAnd the uproar among these retards is already happening>HR ARE FUCKING FAGGOTS I WAS AT 100 INTERVIEWS AND NO ONE WANTS TO HIRE ME
>>730844427Claude just recently suffered from a pretty bad prompt injection attack.
>>730842715>>730841282What's up with X-Ray fish? Is this a secret codeword?
>>730844145I would say a lot,if not most of curren ai advocates are lazy fucks.Im sure someone creative enough could prompt something really great, but most of these people just copy already existing material. They need people with creativity but ai doesnt spark or give that kind of persons joy. There needs to be a middle man, an interpretation layer at the end for them to feel fulfilled creating somdthing.
>>730840702What are some good anti-AI epithets? Fuck AI cunts
>>730844065>are really just glorified algorithmsSane people who followed the advancements in the field knew that from the beginning>this big CEO said we will have AGI soonYeah, here's your AGI bro
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>>730844456The fish is literally called "X-ray fish". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/x-ray_fish
>>730844267Don't you have to blow whistles at ICE officers or something right now?
>>730844529I imagine half of these are quite frankly fake, because AI doomerism is also a driving force between the AI hype.
lol
>>730843781that's just because those groups over-represent online not cause it's just them hating ai, all the ai hatred is mostly online cause businesses and devs are trying to make use of it
>>730844548>Pristella maxillaris, the X-ray tetraDid you even read what you posted? It's not called "x-ray fish"
>>730844493clankercogsuckertinskinwirebacksyntroonYWNBAH
>>730844280I think it's more like they will realize literally anyone can use this shit including their own workers they already have so there is no incentive to hire people just for being proompters who can't actually touch up/clean up the results at the very least.The depth of knowledge needed to clean up AI code is not something an inexperienced non-coder can do. Same for people who aren't artists being unable to fix the eyes or weird blobs on generated art. I can draw and have fucked around on photoshop etc most of my life and dude, fucking dude, it takes like 5 seconds to touch up a flaw in a gen and yet almost NONE of these guys can even fucking do that. It's a fucking joke.As for people making for-fun projects with code, they're happy if it runs at all and that's good enough. Not for professional projects used by thousands or millions of people where every single bug and security flaw will stumbled upon revealing the product and hence company to be a potemkin village. In other words I think AI makes sense for things that aren't that serious where money and reputation is not at stake. For serious matters that requires serious expertise still. AI is not completely useless (I myself like using it to make shit I cannot be assed to edit or draw) but it is not a real replacement for pros either. The assumption that it is is the needle that is pricking the bubble as we speak.
>>730844680To be fair, can you think of any animal that starts with X and isn't some fantasy shit like xenomorphs?
>>730844664that's some incredible cope from someone very insecure
>>730844264AI produced stuff IS a lot like dreaming. Really makes you think, doesn't it.
it doesn't matter how good AI is, because it makes it too easy to make bad things. the internet, and technology in general, are all better when only a subset of the most specialized people have access to them. letting the best people be better isn't worth making it easier for the worst people to contribute
>>730844493AI is for lazy NPCs who can't think for themselves or form an independent thought.
>>730844587The sad thing is there are actually people paying for AI genned pictures instead of just genning their own.
>>730844664This is kind of like seeing someone desperate to get their car back home by just getting out and pushing it down the road with a friend steering it. Like it works in an emergency but that is not gonna work in the long term. If these guys know enough about their craft to have been able to do it without needing to brute force AI to try to approximate it, they didn't actually need to lean on the AI for everything about it.
>>730844768Some of my students were trying to make one of these and they googled it and the google AI summary said "here is a list of animals starting with X" and the first one was the African Ground Squirrel.
>>730844664At that point if you're having to jump through that many hoops to make a commercial you may as well just hire a studio and film it.
>>730842747They want to be real artists so bad.
>>730841251Not me, I have no income or money.
>>730844768>>730844942Turns out, xenops is a thingLol
>>730844664this reminds me of when I used to work at Dreamworks Animation like 15 years ago and we used to joke about a new way to do lighting where we'd just generate frames with purely randomized pixel colors over and over until the artist found one that they liked
>>730844942>play Deadly Premonition>mash X to skip Thomas explaining why the key you brought is the wrong kind of squirrel>AI thinks X is for obscure squirrel species
>>730841189>guys, can you please stop being so negative so we don't have the biggest fall, ever?
>>730844991I went to see what this was about, and I have no words...
>>730840821Me mum died in the holly.
>>730844998you eat food, right?that's going to go up in cost even morenobody is safe
>>730841650>the sheer amount of wasted electricity and water for someone to spew out 100s of slop photos until they get the """perfect""" slop photo
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>>730843821the "third worlders who can't afford video games just proompt all day" meme is real I guess
For this, they stopped printing coins and abolished paper money.
Notice how he didn't say people were wrong, just threatened people talking about it instead
>>730840702>scaredHate*
>>730845912>>730846000At least right wing corpochuds are pro-renewable energy. Right?
>>730841196EVERY SINGLE TIME I asked AI to write some basic code for me because I was being lazy it gave me something that either didn't actually do what I wanted or just mixed shit from different languages that wouldn't even compile in the first place.It's easier to learn to code yourself than it is to get something decent out of AI
>>730841196This. I no longer write unit tests nor waste time debugging menial errors.I now waste more time reviewing crap code submitted by indians, and trying to communicate with indians. But chores are much less of a chore now. But that is NOT worth what AI is doing to the world.
>>730840821Meg Griffin futa porn
>>730840821My ability to see naked anthro girls without being bombared by disgusting obese monsters that plague e6 nowadays
>>730846000>callumdidn't this guy cheat his followers out of money last year?
>>730841310>forced evaluationyou should always evaluate what oil salesman want to sell to you
>>730841310>I want mental health retards to run society Good job, retard>noo, see I'm just so retarded that I can't imagine anybody abusing their power everKill yourself.
>>730840894>>730841116I am neither excited or scared, but I am prepared. I will likely gain a vast amount of wealth as it happens.
>>730842110AI is so much better than stackoverflow for basic stuff, it's incredible. Living my life without some smug german cunt going "you don't actually want to do that" over 7 paragraphs is heaven.
>>730846469I've seen some absolute horrors while browsing loras though. I mean sure, use AI to make whatever particular shit you're into for yourself, but man some of the example genned pics people have submitted on civitai are truly bizarre.
>>730846108That's not what artificial means, anon. Very rude.
>>730840821The speed that brain drain is happening.Watching people's brain rot in real time from using AI, the absolute raping of every aggregate art site, storage and bandwidth wise.I should have bought stock in hard drive companies
>>730842784Doesn't really do it for me.AI could create concept art or background for the eroticism that I like, but a real artist should pick it up.
>>730841196Will it code me a game yet so I can be the idea guy? Writing code is so fucking gay lmao.
>>730847035AI is good at basic shit but if it is getting out into the weeds on something obscure it can start to mess up. For example in the sciences it is okay at schoolwork tier questions up through like undergrad or master's. The crux of the issue is that if you are actually doing research you are generally aiming to discover something nobody in the world already knew, hence something AI just cannot actually know. So it will start to bullshit if you ask it questions nobody really knows yet. It can be utilized to quickly do something a human could already have done manually in looking at existing data and predicting/extrapolating other things out of it, but it is not gonna synthesize a solution nobody had ever thought of before because it's "smart".. it's not smart, it is on a leash of doing things a human could already think up. Hence morons going "wow there is a new AI fusion reactor design, it solved it!!!" (shows scifi movie prop tier design that is clear bullshit to anyone who knows what they are looking at).Social media (including especially twitter and YouTube) ought to have some reporting feature for flagging accounts trying to pass off AI shit as real or factual and just label it next to their accounts at all times with nothing they can do about it.
>>730844065>>730841282
>>730847364Did you ask ChatGPT to write that? This is an insult. Not a random one, though.
>>730847549No. If it sounds too formal it is because I am an actual researcher with over a dozen papers and hear about these limits from people at work complaining that it's fucking up. For example literature research is a real basic thing people do constantly here and some people really really like Perplexity for this because it can extract a relevant answer to your question in seconds that normally might take a couple minutes skimming papers to try to check. Multiply that savings over a couple dozen questions and you realize it saved you hours of time and you have the citations to dig into later. Great. Not great when you are at the limits of your questions and you're not completely positive anyone knows that yet, but the AI starts lying to you and says it is known and gives a fake explanation and fake citation. And knowing that precise layer where you're sure you're looking at the frontier and hence what's a good idea to explore or not is the most fucking important part and why you are searching in the fucking first place. Better?
>>730847364>Social media (including especially twitter and YouTube) ought to have some reporting feature for flagging accounts trying to pass off AI shit as real or factual and just label it next to their accounts at all times with nothing they can do about it.Semi-related, but a significant amount of the "outrageous headline" images that have been spammed here and on other boards for years now are either 100% fake screenshots made up by the poster or screenshots from a fake news website that only exists to post bullshit headlines (likely owned by the poster) and yet we still don't have an option to report posts for fake news (taking a very charitable view here of the mods that they're not deleting this shit because they're ignorant and just don't realise they're bullshit culture war flame threads).
>>730841282https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4558l_jZmVw
>>730840702I'm not scared of it, I just refuse to pay for AIslop
>>730847364What's your opinion on chatgpt finding a solution to Erdos problem 728? Is that not an AI discovering something that nobody else knew?
>>730841145>It's so funny watching all these CEO breakdowns about consumer rejecting aiIt's not even something they're passionate about, it's not something they think will provide a new experience or better quality, or something that will measurably improve the lives of customers. They're just greedy fucks seeing dollar signs and at the prospect of milking the cattle more for less effort and expense on their part, and they expect the cattle to be excited about itCorporate culture is one of the worst, most evil things to ever happen to humanity
>>730841282>O is for Jellyfishit's time to take AI yeller out back
>>730841286If your only reason for supporting something is that it makes other people mad, that thing isn't worth supporting
>>730847940With math it's in reality, actually useless for like 99.9% of attempts to make it figure out anything. Ask actual mathematicians what they think and they will tell you they are are best like a very shitty grad student. My field is biochem however so I can't directly confirm these notions. But math is something where rules are just waiting to be proven like solving a puzzle (IMO). What I am getting at is like "design me a new chemotherapy drug for pancreatic cancer" won't get you some wonder molecule working on a new signal pathway nobody had ever seen before. And if it did it was by pure bullshit accident. It will look over the catalog of existing molecules and treatments and try to predict something based off that knowledge. Hence like I said the limitation is it doesn't actually know what we do not already know. True as fuck in my field. And we were already doing molecular docking analysis aka predictive shit fucking decades before the AI meme took a hold of everyone.
>>730848091>it's not something they think will provide a new experience or better quality, or something that will measurably improve the lives of customersThat's the thing though. People like Jacketman are genuinely egotistical enough to see this shit as a "gift" to the everyman and see it as a personal affront when people reject it.
>>730840821There is literally no use for hallucinating siliconAny seemingly good quality you think you get from machine learning bullshit is stolen from somewhere else and served to you in a worse wayThink of it like playing original game vs remaster slop
>>730840702I don't give a shit about AI in videogames, I give a shit about Nvidia and similar companies buying the RAM for speculative expansion
>>730848237>so what if it repels mosquitoes?
AI shills are the new vegans or evangelical christians. It's very tiresome and forced everywhere for zero reason.Slop is killing the internet and shills gonna shill.
troons smeared shit all over the internet for decades. aichads are the unpaid janitors cleaning up and disinfecting the information superhighway. youre welcome.
>>730844045>It benefits straight white menThe ones getting their job applications rejected en masse by AI? Those straight white men?
>>730848934It's unironically shills anon, their current playbook is to call you a leftist or a tranny if you dislike slopIt's a multi trillion dollars snake oil industry they are going to try everything to mold public perception so that the illusion can keep going a little longer
>>730849406>is to call you a leftist or a trannyThey call you whatever. They will call you an indian too (ironic, indians love ai). They for some reason don't call you a kike and avoid the word altogetherHmmmmmmI'm nooooooticing
>>730849324naacp has been around for 100 years
>>730849406>just ignore that everyone who is against ai is actually a tranny
>>730849406Basically yeah but also keep in mind a lot of poltards are 12 years old physically or mentally and if they see anyone even a millimeter left of center complain about something, they will endorse it because they unironically think everything to the right is ontologically correct and everything to the left is ontogically wrong and there is no such thing as a moderate who takes a more nuanced approach to things. They think moderates are indecisive when in reality they just know better than to cast the entire world in black and white and are looking to agree with people with rational takes on shit regardless of side. They hate that approach because it expects you to actually do serious non biased fact checking and not paper over bullshit. And it is poltards here but you see just as much infuriating shit from the left on bluesky. I just fucking hate politics faggots in general.
>>730841196Vibes have no fucking place in my deterministic Turing machines. The very concept of vibecoding is an offense to the profession.
>>730849790>a lot of poltards are 12 years old physically or mentallyDefine "poltard"
>>730849994it can't produce porn tho
>>730840702>scaredI'm not "scared" of it. It's a thoroughly overvalued technology being used for precisely none of the things it's actually good at. Image/Large scale text/Video generation serve absolutely zero artistic or practical purpose and require/burn through hardware that costss a thousand times more than what any AIslop is actually worth. The main things it's good at are image recognition (aka the thing it was developed for in the first fucking place) small-scale generative tasks like predictive text in phones. This is also before you get into the legal and ethical issues with the wide-scale noneconsentual datascraping that had to be done to train every single fucking generative model, at which point you run into issues with copyright infringement on an absolutely unmanageable scale, the illegal usage of real peoples' likenesses, and the genuinely fucking sickening FACT that every single model was trained on not just children, but child porn scraped by bots because there was deliberately little to no oversight in the model training process.And then, even if you solve ALL of that, you still have the issue that there's no fucking demand for it. Consumers don't want it. Artists don't want it. The only people who want it are conmen and people trying to make goody meme shitposts out of deliberately ugly images or joe rogan's sampled voice, and literally nobody can make money on it because the sheer amount of cash it takes to fund the hardware that runs large-scale generative models is un fucking reasonable. It's a technology for nobody.
>>730849994damn muslim girls look like THAT???
>>730849860Yeah shatya, we are indeed seeing the line between substance and slop and it's 99-1 slop in benefits to mankind. There are some shitty gay realities to this MS bullshit - windows is like 10% of Microsoft revenue now. They can survive a giant chunk of people switching to Linux actually and not really give a shit. The agentic OS shit also is not for us consumers - they know nobody wants or cares for an OS to know or guess our browsing habits and favorite programs. That shit is not meant for us. It's meant to train OSes to run by themselves in VMs piloted by AI imitating what real users are doing to make an AI worker RP'ing being a programmer, accountant etc using real programs and a real OS hence ability to interface into the real data and infrastructure built by a company for human use. Aka the next step of actual literal job replacement. We mock how shitty LLMs are at most stuff but it a company can train one to do assess insurance claims about as good as a person can yeah that's what the real threat to jobs is.
>>730849838>IT'S JUST A TOOOOL BROOOOO YOU CAN'T HATE A HAMMER IF YOU CAN'T USE IT I'm, like, VERY far from the whole coding field and I literally don't know math, but I often read the biggest IT resource of my country, it has some dope articles about hardware and all that IT stuff. And the public there is VERY divided on AI. There are a lot of actual hardcore programmers, but half of them love AI and half of them are pretty sceptical. But I know for granted that there are a lot of experienced seniors who love AI anyway>bro, it just saves time, I can let it do some basic stuff that would've taken several days of my work>I do the thinking and this stuff does the routine workThey have compelling arguments sometimes>it's just a tool, bro, I still create the whole system, it just does some pieces of code for me>you're a luddite for hating it(This one is not compelling though)But even programmers are divided. Programmers who love AI are obviously lazy and just pursue the quick buck. They can tell you that the quality stays the same, but I'm sure it's bullshitThe thing is that CEOs are fine with all this AI codeIt just werks (it's garbage, but it's quicker)
>>730849954Far right /pol/ user. Not necessarily maga but aligned with it when convenient.
>>730844427More exactly, it's an embedding of computed linguistic relations in N-dimensional space. Which is to say, it may be able to understand how every word is related semantically and how to string them together, but it doesn't have any context of what those words actually are or any form of higher-order reasoning about those relations beyond semantic distance.Basically, it's the same problem like how with a dictionary, some words will inevitably mutually reference each other, meaning you need qualia to understand what the hell it means. LLMs don't have qualia by design.
I'm afraid of hyperinflation of the dollar because of the AI.
>>730848934>>730849406
>>730841875I ignored it because all these upscalers are a stupid fucking meme and I never used them. First thing I do in every game is set resolution scale to native and disable AA.
>>730849324>Alvaro gonzalez>>730843781White men can have this now, we won!>>730849994
>>730850304Holy based. Post more.
>>730850218So every single /pol/ poster is far right?
>>730850275Wow is hakase ever old.
>>730850304This is very haram brother
>>730840702>PREE STOPPU COMPRAIN ABOUT THE AI, IT MAKEU ME BEEEGU MONEY
>>730850058oy vey, not copyright infringement!
>>730844485>but most of these people just copy already existing materialthat is the only thing AI can doAI gives you the most sloppy average of a billion data points, that's all it will ever do
>>730851139Far more data points than a human could ever use or even know, so what's your point?
>>730850175The drive behind microslop AI is basically this actually, they just wanted to have the world train up their Autopilot or Pilot app or whatever it will be called off of humans using Copilot. Their dream is a company can have 10 autopilot accountants who don't have to be paid beyond whatever license fee MS desires per iteration, and if these AI accountants are even half as good as five real ones but cost 1/100the price and hassle and work day and night with no vacations or pensions? Yeah that is what they think will happen. And it might. The "so what do we all if you successfully got 3/4ths population fired" part has not been solved or addressed by anyone yet and I mean if Microsoft is basically the new fucking Satan for doing this, we don't hate them s millionth as much today as we will in a few years. How can we fight this? I dunno. Or I know, everyone stops using their entire ecosystem and drops Azure etc. but this is asking companies looking to slop up their employee ranks to voluntarily not do that if the tech exists which is asking literally everyone to just be on the honor system and avoid possible huge profits, and also assuming no other company will ever do this and start implementing it if MS does not do it first.
>>730851221the difference is that a human has to draw from their own personal, limited experience and make both concious and unconcious choices based on personal biasesAI both fundamentally cannot make choices and retroactively inherits the biases of every piece of data ever put into it, plus the bias of whoever assisted in training the model (through tagging, frequency of data, etc)it's "design by committee" taken to its most extreme, and produces unusable, worthless slop as a result
>>730840821Translation, a whole bunch of medical fields, porn, SOME parts of coding, vibe coding I guess.That's really all I can think of.
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>>730851221Art made by humans has a world view and a philosophy standing behind it and that is the interesting partYour image of the world is a cardboard cutout if you weren't able to figure that out until now
>>730851221A human can take a small set of data points and come to a correct outcome.Ai can take one billion data points and then make something up and give you an entirely incorrect outcome.This kind of "more is always better" is the same moronic thinking that's plagued games with shitty remakes that obsess over awful looking hyper-realistic graphics. They're more worried about being impressive than being quality.
>>730851379The productivity of any given worker has dramatically shot up in the last few decades, well before all of this 'AI' got going. They can afford to lose a lot of people technically and they want to.Now I think what they haven't adequately planned for and expect to be other people's problems is the mass unrest of the unemployed unwashed masses. I think the smarter ones are willing to just wait it out and let more people die off as population levels gradually decrease. But ultra wealthy people aren't a high mind ultimately.
>>730851486ai did not make anything, it required data from thousands of artists to slop together into garbage
>>730840821huge corporation's hold on the general population
>>730851529*Hive mind
>>730851560I don't know why you even humored a post with that level of cherry-picking.
>>730840821Translation.
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>>730851486That's nice, but actually using ai will quickly clue you in on its limitations as it proceeds to repeatedly do the wrong thing you don't want it to do, because its data is filled with the wrong thing, or the most popular thing dictating what it generates when you need something far more specific.
>>730842715I think it actually did a great job. The only mistake was owl
>>730851637Why do anti-AI people always talk about AI as if its current state is permanent? Why do we have to keep spelling out that it will keep getting better over time?
>>730848927Retarded analogy
>>730851671Anon...
