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Why did the M&L series flop despite the kino battle system?
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I just want a Mario JRPG with several playable characters. Give us Mario, Luigi, Peach, Yoshi, Toad, Daisy, Rosalina, Donkey Kong, Bowser and Bowser Jr.
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brothership is a beautiful game but they didnt learn from how much fatigue people had about the tutorial shit from paper jam and dream team, it's pretty sad
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because half of the games are absolute trash.
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The series peaked at Bowser inside story
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>>730847907
Brothership battle system is a top 10 battle system of all time, but the rest of the game...
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>>730847651
Because the battle system wasn't kino, it was annoying.
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>>730847907
It's crazy how the over-reliance on tutorials has been such a constant issue with them despite it being the #1 complaint anyone has with their games.

You'd think they'd get it by now.
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>>730847651
Turn based was falling off in general around the time the games came out.
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>>730847651
>Have Paper Mario and M&L, both great casual JRPGs
>Miyamoto autism won't let there be two separate Mario RPGs, destroys Paper Mario
>M&L turns into a tutorial simulator and the (poor) story becomes a bigger focus
Fucking grim timeline we live in
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I hope at least some indie games copy the battle plugs. They were fucking great.
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>>730847931
There aren't many games in the series, give us a list of which ones are trash
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World design and Bros attacks got worse after the first game.
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>>730849427
>>M&L turns into a tutorial simulator
it already was that with the first game, the pacing just got worse with dt and brothership.
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>>730848991
>>730847907
I really don't think they read feedback of any kind. But I'm glad Brothership was good anyway.

https://youtu.be/o9EExk59QDw
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>>730849427
>Miyamoto autism won't let there be two separate Mario RPGs, destroys Paper Mario
I didn't know we still had retarded redditors on this board, I thought they all fucked off after the hack.
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>>730849427
>Miyamoto autism
>destroys Paper Mario
People still think it's not Tanabe after he destroyed Prime 4 as well?
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>>730850631
Idk wtf that is but I'm absolutely fucking it
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>>730847651
I don't know how bad the previous games were, it's too long ago for me. But Brothership treats the player like a full on retard. You get like 10 different mechanics, that weren't in previous games, so you don't have to think when playing the game. I genuinely hate luigi logic on the maps and the plugs are broken as shit without any form of skill.



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