uncs will defend the bottom like their life depends on it
this is nothing
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you miss the disembodied anusyou miss the disembodied anus.you miss the disembodied anus.you miss the disembodied anus.your skill in jerking your arm up and down has gone up!your miss the disembodied anus.you hit the disembodied anus for 2 damage!you miss the disembodied anus.
Oh shit, Morrowind thread. I love Morrowind.
>>730848386go into your back yard right now and try to stab a squirrel with a butterknife. You will not succeed.Combat takes skill.
>>730848984Not an equivalent scenario
>>730848386Top: soullessBottom: sovl
>>730848386the top one at least gives the player some feedback that the think is being hit
>>730849073Yes it is. If you want to simulate when you tried to stab a guard with the same rusty butter knife you looted from a table, I'm perfectly willing to let you try to stab me. You just swing around til you get tired, I promise you won't be able to hurt me.
>>730849073True. Presumably in the backyard scenario you wouldn't be deliberately trying to cause as little damage as possible like in the webm.
>>730849120the one on bottom isn't being hit. That's why there's no feedback.
yall niqqas straight CRINE bra nahhhh yall cant be deadass on this 1 mayne
>>730848386FR ts dinosaurs PMO bruh like get with the times old man
>>730848386>another shill threadYou guys are not very good at making this look natural
hytale is minecraft with microtrannys built for 3rd worlders and discord troonss&box is garrys mod with microtrannys built for 3rd worlders and discord troons
>>730848386almost two and a half decades between these two games, and some how the bottom still has more polygons, more rpg elements and a better skyI do think morrowind has shit combat, but to compare it to a game in 2026 is like trying to gloat about the complexity of a modern smart car compared to an old reliable V8
Morrowind is not an action game. Morrowind is a first person RPG.
>>730849379
>>730849487ahahahahahaha..!!
>>730849262>muh shillsWhy would shills make threads shitting on Morrowind instead of just making threads talking about Hytale? The simpler answer is that this thread is just a bored retard fishing for (you)s from other retards (like you) dumb enough to give them to him.
>>730848386Why does pressing the block button consumes stamina even if no attack has been blocked yet? Wouldn't this make ranged weapons more powerful?
>>730848386shill thread
>>730849505it prevents you from being able to block with 0 stamina
>>730849505news flash, shields are for niggers
>>730849487Okay, now use an unbiased source like Grokipedia.
>>730848386I do this.
>>730849505Bracing for the blow. In reality you meet force with force so you don't get knocked on your ass. Game wise its probably balance, they don't want you turtling like a bitch forever
>>730849593this combat was made by an indian in 2 days and discord troons are eating it up
>>730849640https://grokipedia.com/page/The_Elder_Scrolls_III%3A_Morrowind
>>730849487LOOOOOOOOL
>wojaknigger>uncs>actually replying to this fucking cancer instead of reporting
>>730848386you really captured by likeness with this image
>>730849745maybe your thread is just boring.
>>730849505>Why does pressing the block button consumes stamina even if no attack has been blocked yet?you can animation cancel out of any attack motion
>>730849487The Morrowindtrannies aren't going to live this one down.
>>730849487>>730849706
>>730849593>>730849661But you clearly also lose stamina after blocking the attack.So from what I'm seeing you lose stamina pressing block, and then lose stamina after blocking the attack.Even if pressing the block button didn't cost stamina, "turtling like a bitch forever" shouldn't be possible because blocking the attacks do consume stamina.Also, if that's a concern, chip damage outside perfect block is a concept that could be implemented.>>730849819Now this is a much more understandable choice.
>>730848386i don't need to defend it. the best part about morrowind is that it gatekeeps itself and i'm quite satisfied it keeps retards in the playerbase at a minimum.
>>730849980oh this niqqa CRINE bruh :skull: :skull: :wilted_rose:
>>730849980>"I'm glad, actually.">*spends two decades seething about oblivion and skyrim*
>>730849661>In reality you meet force with force so you don't get knocked on your assNo. You don't. You specifically do the opposite of that in fact. You will definitely not get knocked on your ass by any sword blow caught by your own sword.
>>730848386first person melee combat is gaythird person games are also gay
>>730849593Also,>block with 0 staminaThat should not ever be an issue.On multiple games with blocking, such as Elden Ring and Monster Hunter, you suffer penalties after blocking an attack without enough stamina.
>>730848984i feed them peanuts why would i stab them you sicko
>>730850092to be fair both oblivion and skyrim were plagued with issues that made them inferior even though they also had good points that made them better.Oblivion having that god-awful level up mechanic and Skyrim having a serious lack of variety in content.
I wonder, is morrowind so old that /v/ niggers dont actually know how it plays?
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>>730848984Video games are supposed to be fun. Hitting a level 1 ass worm for 30 seconds isn't fun.
morrowind is good for the world building and the treasure hunt style hidden loot/artifacts you find out in the world. no other Bethesda game is as rewarding in that regard and morrowind is unique in that it is the 1 bethesda game where everything is hand placed and designed around the idea that the player has an interesting first blind playthrough rather than sacrificing things in order to prevent people looking up where to get powerful weapons or stop them from being able to b-line it to powerful gear they know about from a last playthrough. The later games fixed these "problems" that only autists playing multiple playthroughs with no self control actually care about anyways.
>>730850976Ok, then use a weapon you have more than a 5% chance to hit with. Problem fuckin solved retardo
>when you try to use a weapon you didn't spec into Why does nobody on this site understand the difference between an Action RPG and an Action-adventure game? OP is a faggot for comparing two games in completely different genres
>>730849640>Grokipediakek this retard definitely posts "@grok is this true??" instead of thinking for himself
>>730850976if it takes you that long to kill a worm then you really mssed up in character select. Even doing basic things like making a basic orc warrior using starting gear allows you to kill other orcs in full orcish at level 1 without abusing any exploits or powerful buffs. pic related
>>730848386its json prefab files have been a fun puzzle to mess with so far
>>730849379>>730849487>>730849640>>730849706bodied that freak
>>730849504I have never seen shilling for any game that did not involve shitting on others.
>>730848386Hytale persecution complex is ramping up fast
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>>730851012>NOOOO YOU CAN'T HIT THE THING YOU'RE CLEARLY AIMING AT (AND WHICH IS CLEARLY NOT DODGING) UNLESS THE MAGIC NUMBER SAYS YOU CAN!!!Retarded ass spreadsheet-tier "game" design.
>>730851012>>730851036>want to level anything BUT short blades>but you have to start the game with a dagger and you can't kill anything with it because you didn't put any points into short blades>also new to the game so don't know where to get a beginner weapon to match my chosen weapon skill>whelp, better read a guide instead of playing the game normally.
>>730848386>your short blade skill increased to 6
>>730851212yes, that's how real life works. Again, if you want to try to stab me I'm open to they idea. I own armor and practice regularly, I promise you will not be able to harm me.>>730851243>what if I'm retarded and can't read or thinkdon't worry you wouldn't have made it very far, first time someone gave you directions you'd ragequit the game when an arrow didn't pop up.
>>730848386I feel like Morrowind is a litmust test for if you understand what makes a good RPG.Its dice rolls, its not literal. Its stats vs stats, not model connecting with model. You would have no issue with this if the whole game froze in time and you took turns hitting eachother, this is just that same concept done in real time where that swing that clips through the enemy "missed" but it was because of stats, not that your model didnt connect. It looks silly if you expect it to be models connecting with models for damage, but this is basically the only way to have RPG combat with lots of stats and systems done in real time. If you make it the way of models connecting with models then it removes a lot of the skill and trait aspects of the game in favour of "just aim good and press the button".
>>730851304>comparing yourself to a fucking wormkek
>>730851243>>but you have to start the game with a daggergo to the shop in the starter town, you are given enough gold to buy another weapon. also you can get like 1k+ gold from starter quests without even fighting anything.>>whelp, better read a guide instead of playing the game normally.talk to the NPCs you big dummy
>>730851341>comparing yourself to an illiterate retard who can't do anything properlylol
>>730851337I still to this day would rather play morrowind combat over oblivion or skyrims if i had to play any of the games without any mods. Bethesda needs actual gameplay oriented devs to tell them how to make compelling gameplay or something like how they got doom devs to help them with fallout 4s shooting.
>>730851337all of that is perfectly fine for any other rpg out there. but morrowind is the exception because it's not a good way to make an rpg with dice roll combat. no other game made after morrowind has tried to copy it's combat system because it's garbage.
>>730851304>real life melee combat consists of standing still and trying to hit the other person - who is also standing perfectly still - for 30 seconds before finally managing to slightly scratch them
morrowind uncs lmao
>>730848386top looks like someone ai generated minecraft
>>730851484you can go in and out of combat in morrowind to physically dodge the NPCs attacks so they dont get a dice roll against you. its super easy with spears too, so if yo uare particularly shit at the game just go argonian with spear and athletics as major skills and steed sign then melee kite everything.
>>730851243>but you have to start the game with a daggerYou don't start the game with a dagger. You stole that dagger. Nobody forced you to. I didn't steal the dagger. You're just a nigger.>>730851484if you want I can stand perfectly still and you still won't be able to hurt me. It's really that easy to defend yourself with a sword and shield when the other person is inept.That's of course ignoring that it's an abstraction of reality and you are meant to use your imagination, but you fried yours on gooning and vaping before you turned 12 and therefore incapable of thought, literal or abstract.
>>73085125661st post best post
>>730848386bottom is more realistic, judging from every knife fight I've seen video of
>>730851530this is what gaming is about
>>730848386People who defend Morrowind's combat are people who grew up playing that piece of shit.But, if you're a grown adult who cares about Hytale then you're probably more mentally ill than them.
>>730851561Dice rolls are a shit-tier mechanic for combat in a first-person game.>>730851576>It's really that easy to defend yourself with a sword and shield when the other person is inept. The worm didn't have a sword or a shield though.>That's of course ignoring that it's an abstraction of reality and you are meant to use your imagination, but you fried yours on gooning and vaping before you turned 12 and therefore incapable of thought, literal or abstract.If I have to use my imagination to make the game fun it means the developers failed at their job (making a fun video game).
Morrowind is turned based combat aktsually
>>730851676>If I have to use my imagination to make the game fun it means the developers failed at their job (making a fun video game).Genuinely a low IQ casual that ruined gaming.
>>730848386Yeah I would. Looks better too, that retarded blocky shit is awful.
>>730851676>Dice rolls are a shit-tier mechanic for combat in a first-person game.No they're not, you're just a shit person.
>>730848386>we have to market our game>what do we do>let's compare it to some completely unrelated game and say you're gay if you like that instead of our gameNot once in the decades that people have been trying this has the game being marketed actually been worth playing.
>>730851465I mean I get what theyre trying to do, its appease people that found the Morrowind way stupid, but if you dont do this you cant have a stat heavy RPG. So instead you get that weightless floaty shite, where people standing infront of eachother blasting attacks as blood flies everywhere, it just does little damage, and the only meaningful RPG choices is just increasing that damage and resisting it. Just make a normal action game at that point. If I hit someone in the face with a giant sword they should react, not recoil and continue fighting like I just hit them with a wiffle bat. You cant do both. You cant have Fallout RPG systems but also have headshots that actually kill enemeies in one hit, because it just undermines the shooting entirely when I can kill anything but just using a starting weapon and putting my mouse over their head. The RPG has gone out the window in favour of FPS, just make an FPS that feels good.>>730851473Show me an RPG with real time combat that isnt dumbed down to fuck. You cant have heavy stat based games when you can beat the game without levelling at all anon. As long as you are connecting with the target and doing damage then the only stats that the game has to account for is literally just how much damage you are doing and how much damage you can take, vs effectiveness to hit with weapons, attack speed, area of effect, the likehood of a deflection instead of just timing a button press. It just lets you BUILD a character better than it does in a system where every character plays the same.
All these threads made with these buzzwords are made by millennials themselves and millennials will fall for it
The fuck happened to shitposters while I was playing Hytale? These posts are deranged.
>>730851724When I play something that's meant to be entertaining, I expect it to provide the entertainment. If I have to entertain myself then why bother? I can just use my imagination on its own.>>730851743Dice rolls have no place in video games, sorry faggot. Go play tabletop games if you want everything to be decided by fucking RNG lmao
>>730851978>I can just use my imagination on its own.No you can't, don't lie
>>730851978>Dice rolls have no place in video gamesHave you ever played an RPG that wasnt Skyrim?
>>730851915Easiest group to bait ngl.
>>730851530>>730848386Welp since we're reposting stuff
wow its exactly the same
>>730851978You don't like RPGs, you like casual friendly cinematic theme parks.
>>730848386>clearly using weapon the character is not skilled in>not winding his attacks full for full damage in the first placeI guarantee it'd take max 3 hits to kill that thing
>>730848386>major skill: blunt weapon>currently equipped weapon: daggerevery time
>>730851998I can and I do it all the time.>>730852020I have and all the ones I enjoyed don't rely on RNG to determine if you actually hit the thing that you clearly, visually, did hit. Oblivion and the Witcher 3 come to mind immediately.
>>730852195>I can and I do it all the time.Don't lie.
>>730852195>Oblivion and the Witcher 3Not even RPGs.
>>730852157>>730852174>um akchewally you didn't thpec into daggerth tho you CAN'T thtab me!
>>730852174>>730852157you shouldn't have to have to high skills in a weapon to kill a fucking worm. in elden ring you can kill anything with anything, this is just pathetic.
>>730852226Literally everyone including the game developers would disagree with you but okay, define RPGs then.
You can enjoy both
>>730852265How are you going to stab a small creature that does not need to be stabbed, with a tiny knife, at your feet? Of course you're going to fail. You can't even reach it. You're just standing swinging at air.Unless you're like 2' tall this was destined to failure.
>>730852306There's no actual role playing in those theme park console slop "games".
>>730852265You don't need high skills.You just need to stop spamming left click like a retard. Which apparently has been the great zoomies filter for the past 15 years. Which is hilarious.
>>730852338What is role playing?
>>730852338And let me guess, "role playing" to you means "spreadsheets and RNG"?
>>730852306RPGs are games I like. Shit you play is slop for retarded people who can't read and lack an internal monologue.Basically, you're not white and I'm glad you don't like good videogames.
>>730852265elden slop isn't rpg tho
>>730852335what do you mean? bro in the webm stabbed the worm while standing 9 times out of 200 stabbing attempts.
>>730851076where do I get the infiniminer palette mod?
>>730851861/thread
>>730852390Playing a role as a defined character, one that isn't "protagonist deus ex machina that succeeds at everything effortlessly"
>>730852265it's a tabletop rpg with a thin (and i mean thin) layer of immersion to make it less boring than a turn-cringe rpg, and it works. elden ring works too, but elden ring isn't a game about defining a flesh-and-blood character to a fine degree through dozens of skills, it's a game about being good at realtime zelda-esque combat with light rpg mechanics.i like both and play both regularly btw, because i understand the purpose of both, so you're not gonna win with "b-but this other game!!" lol.morrowind da goat no cap
Morrowslop was never good. No amount of muh RPG cope can save it if there's only one memorable part out of the sea of jank junk slop there is.
>>730848386does this game uses the same seed for everyone? it feels like it
>>730852537Morrowind was good, Morrowind is good, Morrowind will remain good.I've been playing Morrowind since before you were born and I'll be playing it after you kill yourself too.
>>730848386Hytale wishes it was bold enough to have its own unique combat system like daggerfall or tes3.
>>730848386lol you are reaching comparing a game that came out in 2002 to something that came out in 2026 shit in reality hytale has no excuse to have comparable combat to morrowind
>Roblox humiliates BethesdaslopNot surprised.
>>730851576>you are meant to use your imaginationThis. Imagination is the only way to have good combat in a video game. If you can't imagine the enemy dodging when the combat log says you missed you have fucked up. Pressing a button and reading the log is figuratively peak video games and the best way to have combat in a video game ever.It's actually legitimately literally physically impossible to visually depict a battle in a video game. It just can't be done.
>>730852087disgaea was so much better when it was 2D.
>>730852423it is. i roleplayed as a big fat tanky guy that wears too much armor to roll around in.
>>730852570kek
Okay, time to settle this /v/.I'm gonna ask Grok for an unbias answer on whether Morrowind's combat is good or not.>"Hey Grok, what is the popular opinion on the combat system in Morrowind?"
>>730852659>what is the popular opinionmy bad i forgot we are all 14 year old girls trying to figure out what is a socially acceptable form of video game content, guess we have to consneed it to you.
>>730848984if a squirrel stood still or approached me directly like either of these enemies, i could absolutely stab it with a butter knife. it wouldnt be difficult at all.
>>730852659>melted the ice caps to get told it's shitCongratulations, Morrowjeet.
>>730852570>Morrowind was good, Morrowind is goodIt was bad when it released and is worse today.
>>730852765It was the best game when it was released, and it's even better today. Tamriel Rebuilt is amazing and I'm glad you can't enjoy it.
>>730852802>I'm glad you can't enjoy it.why would you be glad for a world filled with sub 90 IQs
>>730852659>hey fag AI: how do you feel about the least faggy rpg ever?>fag AI: it sucks Well there you go
>>730852719Hey Grok, what is the definitive, unbiased opinion on the combat system in Morrowind?
>>730852832ever since I got circumcised I can't see them as people and just sources of compounding interest.
>>730848386i won't defend bottom because D&D style rolling is shit no matter how it's done
>>730852879forgot to crop that shit
>>730852259Yes.
>>730848386>morrowind player deliberately uses a weapon his class is not specced for at all and records results Yeah that unironically is working as intended. The game is about 25 years old too so comparison to a game that is like 25 hours old, yeah you get the picture. In most games if you are a mage or whatever you cannot even equip the dagger in the first place. Morrowind let you do it but you were going to suck dick using it at first and had to put in the extra time and patience grinding up your proficiency at it to force it to work. That is one of the strengths of the game actually is you can eventually be the omni-god rogue-warrior-mage-priest if you wanted who runs at 200 miles an hour and jumps half a mile in a leap and can be invisible the whole time going around head shitting everyone from your bow.. but it would take time to rank up all that stuff you did not originally spec for.
whys he blocking? stamina is better used on charged attacks and then running away. to get in an other. certified unc who has played both and enjoys both
>Unironically using slop machine to form an opinion
>>730852926>based grok gives the definitive unbiased opinion on morrowind's combat saying it's flawed>morrowind uncs get shutdown completely
>>730852802It wasn't good in 2002 and will never be good. It's a dogshit game just like everything Bethesda shits out. The only thing it has going for it is that it's open world, and that's a technical achievement for the time, but the game doesn't hold up. Every part of its gameplay is half assed and janky, it was ugly even for its time, the writing is so-so, you only like it because you played it as a child. Nostalgia is the only reason you consider it a good game.Morrowind is just plain garbage without the nostalgia goggles.
>>730852972It makes me wonder.I use LLM's a lot to increase productivity but it is always gruntwork, do people just ask AI what to think and just blindly adopt that viewpoint?
>>730853582That'd be one step further than the usual, which is absorbing background noise and making it their opinion.
>coke zero is just rebranded diet cokeNOOOOOOOOO
>>730854712diet coke and coke zero have different formulas
>>730850976That's not a thing that happens in the game anon, you're just falling for retarded bait.Even with a full mage build and the starting rusty dagger you kill stuff quickly.Also, you're not supposed to chop with a dagger, you're supposed to stab. Which I know is asking too much from zoomies.
>>730852636Fromdrone cope
>>730852735the combat is an abstraction. you are supposed to imagine it dodges you like it would in real life
>>730851036>to do combat well in the RPG, you have to get combat skillsHoly BTFORPGs filter the zoomer
How is the Caldera Priory so highly rated, the giant dungeon is just obnoxious to navigate and looking at the bone piles for some reason tanks my FPS.
>>730848386>UMM AKHTUALLY you didn't spec into short blade which explains why you're a paraplegic and can't stab a worm from a foot away. Also the game simulates a tabletop RPG dice roll so you're not ACTUALLY stabbing at it despite the evidence of your eyes
I'm an unc and I think Morrowind is extremely over rated. I am also playing Hytale currently (pirated of course). and so far it's nothing special
>>730853582>, do people just ask AI what to think and just blindly adopt that viewpoint?It's the opposite, AI will agree with you and validate you 90% of the time, just try it
Make sure to collect your free daedric weapon at level 1 to completely break the gamebut the stupid weapon hit chance isn't the worst stuff. More like the common enemies that will drain your attributes by 40 at the start of combat
Every Elder Scrolls game has hilariously bad combat, but Morrowind at least came out in a time it could be excused
Melee combat truly is the worst part of morrowindI set my weapon skills to level 50 when i do a playthrough these days, makes the early game so much more tolerable
>>730848386>nooooooooo noooooooo I have to hit everything with a skill of 20 in an RPG
>>730849120Oblivion had basically no feedback either.
>>730848386>be me>sub 70 iq>mom says I still get a say even if I'm special>play morrowind>make character bad at fighting>get into fight>mfw my character does a bad job
>>730848386having each swing be a click is what makes morrowjeet awkard. should have just had auto attack if they wanted those kinds of rpg mechanics.
>>730848386boomers BTFO kek
>>730864204You should be able to hit a level 1 enemy at the start of the game with anything
>>730848386Remind me again which game came out 20 years ago?
>>730855016>>730864382Wait. You mean to tell me that OP's webm is carefully crafted to make Morrowind's combat as bad as possible and it doesn't reflect actual combat in the game in the slightest?
I am the dumbest ape nigger to ever exist
>>730866157Now who would do such a thing? And for 15 years in a row no less.
>>730848386>bulletsponge slop
>>730849379Then why make the player mash buttons at all...?
>uncsEveryone who makes threads like these is a jaded 30+ year old something man who's been on the internet for at least 20 years
>start game>do all starter quests in Seyda Neen and leave the place with well over1K gold>go to Caldera and buy the invisibility ring>rush Ghostgate and steal all the high level gear in the place with invisibility ring>go to Vivec and swipe the Daedric Bow as well>now have Glass and Daedric gear at level 1This game is only as hard as you make it.
>>730848984Games aren't supposed to be realistic they're meant to be fun.
>>730848386Both are the same shitty combat. I lost a lot of respect for /v/ in general (amerisharts mainly) when I realized that many on this board see nothing wrong with this style of gameplay. If you like this trash you have no right to laugh about movie games or walking simulators. Fucking casual shitters
It's quite funny what happens if you stay on /v/ long enough.>When I first joined /v/ everyone loved Thousand Year Door>Now everyone hates it>When I first joined /v/ everyone loved New Vegas>Now everyone hates it>When I first joined /v/ everyone loved Morrowind>Now everyone hates itFun times.
>>730849487>roleplaying video game
>>730870646Yes. Morrowind is a RPG.
>>730848386Wait, they HIRED THAT MAN for Minecraft? That looks horrible. Like those Steve shitpost images.
>>730870532None of these things happened, even though it should have to Morrowind.
It's kinda sad how often people shitpost about something this fucking stupid.
>>730870532It's almost like /v/ isn't one person.
>>730848386Zoomies who have never played an rpg in their entire life (no, oblivion doesn't count) choose to put their skills into two handed axes at the start of the game, then cry and shit their pants when they're ineffective with a dagger. This is a roleplaying game, play your role.Hit chance is a core mechanic of many roleplaying games. It's fair because there are plenty of ways in which the mechanic interacts with other mechanics. This is called having systems in your game, something a lot of modern games forsake in favour of having a dozen isolated mechanics added for the sake of flavour, that do not meaningfully interact with one another.
>>730875546This is primarily a shitpost thread but it is kinda baffling that those people actually exist.I had a zoomer friend play through cyberpunk with a full combat build and complained that stealth and hacking was useless.
>>730875989Games like Oblivion and Skyrim really ingrained in people this idea that the player can be everything at once.I didn't really give cyberpunk a fair shot due to how corny it is, but hearing that you actually have to commit to your choices make me wanna give it another try.
>>730876667I wouldn't say it's as severe as morrowind but it's definitely more restricting in that sense than oblivon/skyrim
>>730848386I refuse to believe their are still people who don't understand Morrowind's RPG mechanicsYou are being intentionally stupid on purpose
Bottom is literally why I’ve never been able to play Skyrim kek. I remember that the game exists and that it was once a big thing and so I download it. I load in, sit through the boring ass intro, make my hideous gremlin creature, escape the dragon, reach the first combat and immediatly lose interest. Theres no feedback to the combat, and theres no higher thinking it’s just slapping eachother with pool-noodles until the other one goes “Guh!” and falls over (or you get one of those shitty, poorly animated finishing moves with the model clipping and lack of visual flare).
>>730848386what makes it worse is to level up your weapon skill you need to actually hit the fucking thing.so while early skill increases should be easy to get they actually are slower coming than mid level ones.
>>730876889half of this board is intentionally being stupid and the other half is genuinely stupid, 1% of both are people like you and me expecting something to change.
>>730848386Isn't Hytale extremely controversial? I don't even know why, I just know that I would never even consider putting money on that garbage. It's a festering corpse, and the only people who have ever been involved with it as a project all turn out to be disgusting eceleb grifters.Curious.Pretty sure the whole game is just a scam to trick 10-year-olds into spending mommy's mone on more Myncwaft. Which is why complete weasels like that Pirate Software guy are so into Hytale; scamming kids is appealing to twitch cocksuckers. It's what they do.
>>730876956to add to this, if the early game got smoothed over so it isn't so rediculous (perhaps a split scaling where below 50 skill the damage you deal is reduced instead of purely hit chance and above 50 you do full damage but start to never miss)other than that some damage feedback like the enemy reacting to being hit would be nice, i'm sure mods do some of this but i don't care, i would much rather see what they did for Oblivion on Morrowind.Morrowind has a really interesting setting but the combat is pretty ass outside of magic, though tons of quests are a complete slog including one of the expansions being painful to play.>>730876889it isn't always about not understanding, it just isn't a good early game experience.
>>730848386>Hytale combat is good because... it's similar to a 25 year old game with shit combat!!!
>>730851243>>whelp, better read a guide instead of playing the game normally.thats how most westoid Cuckold RPG players "play" their "favorite" gamesIF they play them at all
>>730848386there is fundamental misunderstanding in that comparison. The issue most have with morrowind melee combat is - they are retarded. its a roleplaying game, so if you want to be proffessient with swords, you have to invest in those skills and stats. Without them - you litterally cant hit a fly. You dont start with some basic skills, you basically start with zero and thinking "i`ll just train it from null" results in your frustration and failure.Meanwhile, an intellegent player will be maxing needed skills, wear daedric armor and enchanted weapons and 1hit everything.
there is a reason why nobody talks about toddslop gameplay just like gacha
Elderly abuse ahh thread
>>730878224This is cope. Morrowind's combat is just fundamentally fucking garbage. Making a real-time action game with first-person combat, whilst relying on modifiers and invisible dice rolls was a fucking stupid idea. People always make these webms with melee, but this shit is fucking egregious with range weapons. You can physical see your arrow fly up a bandit's asshole, but it somehow still misses? There's a reason no one has ever bothered with such garbage ever since.
>>730854712Coke Zero uses sugar alcohols. Zeros across various brands tend to do this and they all taste vastly superior to the older Diet formulas that use Aspartame as the main sweetener.
morrowind is a babygame for fags who couldn’t play an actual crpg but wanted to feel part of an ingroup.
>>730851473>no other game made after morrowind has tried to copy it's combat system because it's garbage.Except like, every fucking mmorpg with an accuracy stat of course. Functionally its the same damn thing. My characters sword swings through an enemy model. The word miss pops up. Same shit.
>>730848386>has to throw in that Troonrule shit Nobody cares except the devs and their ESL bot posts. Kill yourselves you fucking incompetent losers. 11 years in the making and THIS is the result.
>>730848386>Bottom: game with a a story you can complete >Top: early access Minecraft make your own story slop that is pointless to play as a Minecraft since mc has more mature tech mods
>>730880626Maybe we could do a mod where MW combat has rounds coordinated like an SRPG. In a round you can move X units and swing X times based on relevant skill levels and base stats, and get on screen displays of action results in text.
>>730848386>5 short bladeretarded nigger goycattle
>>730848386I like bothWish they had dismemberment though
Honestly, the only proof you need that the game is being astroturfed to hell is the YouTubers and streamers. Every single one is using the same talking points like they're doing an ad-read.
>>730880626those games work because they're not in a first person view and they have obvious indicators that your attacks miss. MMO combat is not 1:1 to morrowind.
>>730849487That description is wrong. Post another source. It will be wrong too
>>730849487and a roleplaying one tooyou chose to roleplay as someone who can't use daggers and you're mad that you can't use daggers
>>730882317Even a newborn baby could hit a stationary target within face rubbing distance with a dagger. The "RPG" cope doesn't work.
>>730864204nigga it's a worm
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>>730882620and in universe you're so shit at knives that even a fucking worm can dodge youmorrowind has a feedback problem, not a combat problemand that's because it was made on a shoestring budget more than 20 years ago
There's no need to die on that hill. Morrowind is a good game despite its combat, not because of it. Stats overriding physical, observable actions is always a bad idea, DaS 2 proved this, so Morrowind isn't alone in this category.
>>730883420except this is a matter of them not having the time to make those actions observable because bethesda was going broke while making morrowind
>>730883213>and in universe you're so shit at knives that even a fucking worm can dodge youYeah, and that's fucking stupid. You'd have to be a crippled invalid with half your brain destroyed to miss a fucking worm with a dagger.>morrowind has a feedback problem, not a combat problemOne in the same. Even if enemies had a little dodge animation or something when you missed an attack, the gameplay would still look fucking stupid. You'd just be there swiping at Michael Jackson while dances around your strikes. >and that's because it was made on a shoestring budget more than 20 years agoArkane Studios' first game, Arx Fatalis, utterly embarrassed Morrowind's garbage combat, and it came out in the same year.
>>730883715could've just said you don't like itif you take out dodge change from morrowind you get oblivion where combat is differentiated by damage sponges and that's fucking worse
>>730865410No.
>>730884026I thought me not looking Morrowind's horrific combat is obvious, True though, no like Oblivion's damage sponges are better, but that's just a matter of poor balancing and levelling scaling. It's not a fundamental issue like Morrowind's combat.
>>730864382so morrowind combat is good because you can hit npcs when your weapon skill to 70?
>>730848386boomers taking infinite Ls
>>730848386>>730866157>You mean to tell me that OP's webm is carefully crafted to make Morrowind's combat as bad as possible and it doesn't reflect actual combat in the game in the slightest?
>>730884781post good morowing combat webm
>>730884287>It's not a fundamental issueit's not a fundamental issue in morrowind either if you don't play like a retardIt's better for the system to break for people who don't understand the basics than it is for players who actually want to take your game seriously
>>730885330The system is fucking garbage. Because even when you understand it and how to properly utilise it, the combat is still fucking bad, except you can hit enemies consistently now. There's a reason why everyone's favourite part of Morrowind's combat is breaking it to the point of triviality.
>>730884415Not everything you dislike is a failing in need of dissertation. Morrowind's combat does what it sets out to do. If you do not like it, that is not a failure on its part. You just don't like it. Stop trying to make everything a fucking Youtube essay on intrinsic value.
>>730848984Now imagine doing the same thing to a dog that's attacking you, you disingenuous faggot.
>>730887810Okay I did that and I'm in the hospital. Turns out dogs are better at melee combat than me, I didn't land a single blow and I may lose my left arm to sepsis. Now what
>>730888051>heh, this bullshit scenario is SURE to vex him and prove my point
>>730870085Unrefuted
TESfags deserve only rope
>>730888051>Okay I did that and I'm in the hospitalSensible>Turns out dogs are better at melee combat than meBullshit>I didn't land a single blowUnless you're suffering from cerebral palsy, yes you did>and I may lose my left arm to sepsisSensational today aren't we?
>>730852259> you don't have any skill with this weapon so you're shit at itYep, makes sense to me.
>>730889534>yep, i wouldn't be afraid of a retard with down's syndrome with a huge dagger threatening to kill me!
>>730848386One requires you to understand how the RPG mechanics of the game work.The other is made for goycattle like you.
>>730889961>Implying that bigger number = better isn't goycattle slop
>>730889697You're insane.Downies spec low int high str/stam with a bonus to melee.Unless you've got some good armor they'll kill you before you can get through their higher health pool.
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>>730852265>you shouldn't have to have to high skills in a weapon to kill a fucking worm.It's an RPG you retarded mongoloid.
>>730890131It filters the likes of OP, so yeah.
>>730882620Guess how I know you're a basement dweller who has never participated in any physical activity requiring hand-eye coordination?
>>730890678>namedropping anything on the AmigaClassic bongoloid retardation. It's like an entire island of plebs, ones that make terrible games.
Why do people think bad RPG designs are good rpgs designs?
>>730890678A tranny wrote this by the way.
>>730892232Your character's skills having no relevance to your character's success in any given action is bad RPG design, because it's a non-RPG design.
>>730892391Sorry bub but diablo 2 which has a famously bad melee combat system doesn't have one nearly as bad Morrowind
>>730880626>every fucking mmorpg with an accuracy stat of courseAh yes, because mmos are the pinnacle of non shit gameplay
Ask yourself why these people feel the need to constantly argue with you about why Morrowind is a shit game instead of just doing literally anything else. Do you feel the need to convince others who like a game that you don't that the game is bad? No of course not, why would you? Why waste your time doing that when you could be playing a game you like?The reason they do this is because they got filtered hard but in order to save their ego they need to convince themselves that it's the game's fault and not theirs. Nothing is ever their fault.
He's having a melty
>>730848386>level up>return and kill level 1 enemy with one hitThat is honestly based game design, because it gives the player a feeling of progression.
How many years has this thread been going?
>>730851012"Chance to hit" shouldnt be a thing in games where you visually see attacks hit enemies without any feedback indicating a dodge.
>>730848386PFTTT-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAMan boomers are so fucking embarrassing
>>730893820so just add a dodge animation and it's fine?
>>730893932They'd find something else to complain about. The criticism isn't the point, the point is the criticism.
>>730894554hm, probably the same crowd that gets angry at people for liking old fallout games
>>730851304>yes, that's how real life worksin what universe?
>>730894645And for the same reason too, the game filtered them and they need to argue for hours that the game is just bad in order to salvage their ego.
>>730892498Still has a to hit chance, retard.
>>730895163that's based on level, so you can go back to lower level enemies and fight them for xpretard
