>release game on steam>it gets absolutely zero traffic for months on end and no reviews>over time the game slowly creeps up to 10 reviews >suddenly traffic shoots up and valve starts actually fucking showing the game to peopleBut steamies will insist valve are the good guys and not throttling indie dev.
I was one of the 10 reviewers who had the game recommended to me from my queue because I actively find games I want to play and play them. You're welcome.
So this is the new bait youre going to be spamming for the next month? The actual question is where'd you steal this image from (if its even real) and what is the actual context for the game and the developer.
Can't wait to see OP spam this thread every week for the next 6 months.
>>730853391Buy an ad. Unironically.
>>730853589Cope, retard.
>>730853391>throttlingSteam isn't a charity. You're not entitled to free advertising just because you release your game on Steam.>release game on steam>it gets absolutely zero traffic for months on end and no reviewsEither advertise your game yourself or consider making a better game.
>>730853764>arbitrary barrierSales aren't arbitrary.In case you didn't know, Steam wants to sell games. If you can prove people will buy your game, Steam will promote it.
>>730853391i can't wait till i come across one of your egsjeet shills irl and you lets that "steamies" slip so i can slit your fucking throat
>>730853391Steamies schizo is still trying to act like he's a real game dev, lmao.He got this image from a Reddit thread, by the way.https://www.reddit.com/r/IndieDev/comments/1o84loc/the_effect_of_passing_the_10review_threshold/
Bad thread.
>>730853673>>730853571>>730853528This woman is pissed that Steam DRM is shit
>>730853971>image isn't the same and shows data for octoberSteamies are the lowest IQ retards on the planet.
>thread full of steamies calling other anons steamiesnearly the same as redditors typing "reddit moment" while their history shows they comment no less than 30 times a day.
>>730853872>game sits on the store collecting pittance sales from collectors>it passes the 10 review barrier on its own>"welp guess it's good enough, let's promote it"Steamie...
>>730854151>game sits on the store collecting pittance sales from collectorsSteam isn't a charity. You're not entitled to free advertising just because you release your game on Steam.
>>730854256>free30% cut of sales isn't free
>>730854256Bot.
>>730854325Neither is marketing, yet you expect them do it for you despite it not being in the agreement>hey bro, can I set up my lemonade stand on your lawn>sure bro>RRREEEEEEEEE WTF AREN'T YOU TEXTING ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND COWORKERS TO BUY MY PISS
>>730853528WHY WONT VALVE DO MY MARKETING FOR MEALSO FUCK VALVE FOR TAKING A 30% CUT
>>730854454>neither is marketingyeathat's what the 30% is for>B-BUT YOU AGREEDfound the jew>myess we can take your money, pay someone else to advertise for you while we take a third of whatever you make thanks to that advertising, myess
>>730854357Not my fault people think Steam's a charity.
Remember that EGS shills are real and OP has been spamming in the same manner with the same format since at least 2018Mod acknowledging that EGS threads are spammed through proxies: https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/490729571/#490737959https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/subject/annual%20survey%20valve/type/op/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/subject/game%20store%20battle/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/Steam%20so%20far%20has%20only%20countered%20with/type/op/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/subject/earn%20their%2030/type/op/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/subject/world%20war%20z%20pricing/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/steam%20drones%20are%20honestly%20pathetic%20at%20this%20point/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/WSy_ouMSe8D9vnJxSM7clA/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/gFXi1kdjGSuMYwfOZi4VUw%3D%3D/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/subject/Ark%20Survival%20%20Samurai%20Shodownhttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/subject/Torchlight%202%20free/Resumed spam in 2025: https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/subject/Dead%20Island%202%20free%20on%20Steam/https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/subject/Tiny%20Tina%27s/text/epic%20store/You do not hate Tim Sweeney enough
>>730854454What are you paying the 30% cut for? Server hosting?>inb4 all the steamie social trinkets like workshop and communityThey're not benefitial for the dev.GOG, Apple and Google offer their servers for lower and itch.io for completely free.
>>730854536>steam literally advertises games on their front page>UMMM THEYRE NOT A CHARITY ANONyou don't even know what you're defending. you can't stand that the OP is right.
VALVE, SHOW ME THE HOTTEST 19,000 GAMES THAT RELEASED THIS YEAR
>>730854575>Server hosting?umm yes. Do want to pay that yourself instead?
>it gets absolutely zero traffic for months on end and no reviewsProbably because the game you made is complete dogshit and proof why removing Greenlight was a mistake.
>>730854575Hosting, transaction fees, international currency conversions, forums, etc.You might argue that they're not worth the price, but nobody else seems to want to do that shit for themselves.
>>730854647>>730854649What is it with steamies dishonestly ignoring the rest of the post to strawman a retarded position that they can easily rebuke?
>>730854682Just look at the EGS early adopters who couldn't even sell their game in large parts of the world because EGS didn't support a bunch of currencies on release
>>730854682>Hosting, transaction fees, international currency conversions, Itch.io and GOG does all of this for a WAY lower cut or even completely free.>forumsDoesn't benefit the devs since they already have discords and other methods of communication with players.
you retard indie devs realize there are so many new games released on Valve every single day that it's literally not physically possible for them to advertise all of them? Like, the only way they could actually have enough ad space to advertise every game is if they bloated the screen with such an absurdly huge amount of ads that people would stop using Steam, and even if they did that they STILL probably couldn't manage to show all of them. Like, where, specifically, do you expect them to insert a recommendation for your game at? Keep in mind that exact specific location you have in mind, and consider that ten thousand other games also want to be there.
>>730854581What do you want Steam to do?
>>730854720Sell your game on your own website then if you don't want to pay for Vale/Steam's services
>claim steam isn't responsible for marketing your game>steam actually does market games>claims they "do it for free" >30% cut of salesso you're either ignorant and wrong or youre lyingcope and seethe
>>730854764Remember when valve only added a very limited amount of games on steam so they added greenlight so devs and fans could get indie games on steam then the indies bloated it with garbage and abused the system releasing ver 0.0.1 games that were never going to be finished
>>730854773>claim steam isn't responsible for marketing your game>steam actually does market gamesdo you genuinely think these two statements contradict each other
if steam's 30% cut was too much for what it offers you'd go somewhere else/sell it off your own websiteit's not like there aren't alternativesbut most indie devs don't use them, because they know the value of being on steam
if you can't get 10 people to say your game is good, I don't want Valve to show it to me
>>730854842are you too stupid to see your contradiction pointed out to you :) it's your argument.steam "isn't a charity" supposedly but they do promote some games over others. curious. try making a cohesive argument.
>>730854772>>730854883>Sell your game on your own website then if you don't want to pay for Vale/Steam's services>sell game both on your website and on valve's storefront>you sell it for cheaper on your website because of no expenses related to steam>valve throws a hissy fit and threatens to delist the gameThere is an on-going class action lawsuit about this.And before you dishonest steamies scream "STEAM KEYS!!", No, the game in question was explicitly NOT using steam keys on their website
>>730854767promote the game sooner rather than waiting for it to get the arbitrary review count to then promote it.they literally get more money for doing it.
>>730854932>>sell game both on your website and on valve's storefrontwhere did my post say to do thatjust sell it on your website, not on steam
>>730854909>steam "isn't a charity" supposedly>supposedlylol>but they do promote some games over others. curious.maybe if you're retardedvalve wants profitsome games are more profitable than otherssimple
>>730854909Yeah they show off games that will make them the most money. You can also fully customize which games will show up for you so it's 100% your fault steam isn't feeding you random indie garbage with 4 reviews
>>730854891You do realize this system just incentives using botted reviews to get organic promotion, right? Meaning honest devs who don't resort to that will get left behind from the scammers who do.
>>730854943no they don't because if the store page is flooded with 0 review dogshit no one wants to see it will block out games people might actually want to buy and so they sell less
>>730855032multiple gachas have been banned off steam for essentially botting reviewscope + seethe harder
>>730853391>gives you a boost>that means its throttling me before the boostNever do anything good for people. They won't focus on the fact that they actually received help from you, they will focus on the fact that you could have helped them even earlier, or more, or give them money... Offer a hand and they demand the arm.
>>730854998>You can also fully customize which games will show up for you so it's 100%No you can't. The front page only shows the highest earning games, so does searching by category and genre.And the discovery queue is shit because it also only shows you the same AAA slop whilst also being restricted to only filtering out a maximum of 12 tags for some fucking reason.Everyone who actually tries to find games on Steam that aren't well-known uses external platforms.
>>730853391what game?
>>730853391Buy an ad, faggot.
>>730854932>valve throws a hissy fit and threatens to delist the game>There is an on-going class action lawsuit about this.Why would you want to even sell on steam if its such a horrible store. Just sell it on your website and nowhere else.
>>730855032What would be a better metric?
>>730854932>There is an on-going class action lawsuit about this.If that's true it's gonna fucking lose lmaoNo shit you don't get to get near free advertising on steam then direct people to buy it somewhere else to get it cheaper and avoid giving steam a cutThere's not a judge in the world that wouldn't take steam's side even if gaben was representing himself and didn't have 10000 lawyers
>>730853391if you're too lazy to find 10 random people to play your game and review it why should Steam promote your game
>>730855047>because if the store page is flooded with 0 review dogshit no one wants to see it will block out games people might actually want to buy and so they sell lessno actually you're wrong you see if the store page is flooded with 0 review dogshit no one wants to see people will suddenly start buying all the 0 review dogshit games and valve will make even more profit than they do now obviously
>>730853391OP, if your game stars a cute loli I will unironically shill your game for you for free.
>>730855202Because Steam's a charity
>>730855190>No shit you don't get to get near free advertising on steamBut you just said steam isn't a charity and doesn't promote your game if it doesn't earn enough? That you should market it yourself?
>Farmer Gabe sells my apples at his store>but I also set up a stall selling my apples outside Farmer Gabe's store for a cheaper price>WHAT THE FUUUUCK WHY DOES FARMER GABE NOT WANT TO SELL MY APPLES ANYMORE I MUST SUE HIM NOWlmao
>>730853764>people buy game>suddenly appears on new & trending tab which increases visibilityIts a conspiracy I tell ya
>>730855123New & Trending and Popular Upcoming are full of random shit and my steam page is not filtered at all. Also currently 0 AAA games on either of these listsMaybe stop buying AAA slop you lying retard
>>730855381>New & Trending and Popular Upcoming are full of random shitWhich are purposefully tucked away at the bottom of the page, meaning even those games get fucked over by valve>no mention of the discovery queueAs expected.
>my thing is great>everyone will love me thing>don't even need marketing>wHy iS NoBodY bUyiNg mY THING?!?!every fucking time with inventors/engineers/developers or whatever the fuck the turbo autists want to call themselves
>>730853571>6 monthsTen years.
>steam takes 30%really?I thought it was YOU who took the 30% and valve took the rest like the semitic individuals they are
>>730855590Gabe needs to slap the advertising proverb on the terms of service>The man who whispers down a well about the goods he has to sell won't reap as many dollars as he who climbs a tree and hollers
>>730855672Fun fact: Did you know that the Steam cut gets decreased the more money you make? You pay a bigger cut to steam for every game that made under $10 million. It's around 25% for $10 million, and 20% for $50 million if memory serves me right.I wouldn't be surprised if AAA pay 10% or zero.
>>730854575OkayFeel FREE to put your games up on those storefronts insteadNobody is forcing you to use steam's storefront
>>730854575>Server hosting?Yes, what else did you expect?Anyway I don't really get what those nobodies think steam is supposed to do. You can't just put everyone on the front-page. If everyone is promoted nobody is.Also it's not that hard to find those kids of games. Steam still puts them on your discovery queue or if you go beyond page 2 in new.
>>730854575>They're not benefitial for the dev.Too fucking bad. The dev isn't in charge here. Steam is actually customer friendly and puts customers first. If the devs don't want to pay the cut, they can put their game on a store that's actively hostile to customers in favor of devs like epic and see how many customers buyt it there.
>>730855789>tripple AAA pays zeroDo you think all tripple AAA games make more than 50 million dollars in sales every time?
I'm starting to think that devs refuse to pay for any kind of marketing and use rage bait to promote their games instead
>>730855954Maybe read the post you're responding to, steamie.
>>730853391do you not have 10 friends
>>730856001>Steam does not contain any paid advertisingWait seriously? I didn't know that. Are they the only big online store with zero paid advertising?
>>730855461My discovery queue is also not filled with AAA trashAt this point it sounds like a skill issue
>steamies will just ignore points and repeat the same things over and over like bots in order to defend valveCrazy.
You guys are still in this godawful thread? Why?
>>730856009Okay, so what do you want? Just for steam to lower the cut they take or are you still going to whine why your literally who game isn't on the front page?
>>730856119So you wont even reply to the people who have mogged you nowTotal EGeet loss
>>73085611930% is the industry standard, cuck.
It's pretty cool to see egs cultist lies being dismantled in real time as they have no response.
>>730856536>>730856481>>730856502Samefag
>>730856630Actual fag
>>730854575>what are you paying the 30% cut foryou are not paying any cut if your game doesn't sell, lol
>730856630Seething cultist. Get a new script.
>>730853764nice self portrait r/indianmuslims-kun
so what dogshit game is it, you fucking nigger
>>730856082>Are they the only big online store with zero paid advertising?I believe EGS does the same thingalso in this video we can see a breakdown of steam front page https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkmAqBvUBOwand OP's claim:>over time the game slowly creeps up to 10 reviews >suddenly traffic shoots up and valve starts actually fucking showing the game to peopleis plausible due to this reply. pic related
>>730855032Did you know that only purchases count towards the algorithm? Giving 1000 bots steam keys for reviews doesn't do anything.And even if you fake reviewed your way to 10 reviews, after a few days, steam would see your game isn't selling and stop showing it.
>>730855125Every game.Getting 10 reviews is your way of telling steam you've made a real game, and not some asset store flip. At 10 reviews, they start showing your game to people. If it keeps selling, they keep showing it.
>Release game from critically acclaimed developer on timmy's junk food store>Nobody sees or plays it>Studio is in deep financial troubles and might not make it out of this year
>>730858780Kek, every time
>>730858780I like it when game devs get in arguments over social media about how people will still buy their game on epicand then no one buys their game
