>causes Todd and Bethesda decades worth of PTSD
What?The highwayman?
>>730853812Whats stopping someone from reverse engineering one of the thousands of cars sitting around every major city?>nooooo you cant have le technology after the Great War! It blasted us back to the stone age! But theres still plasma and laser weapons and power armor and and uh helicopters still getting made!!!
>>730856096Bethesda's shitty 400 year old game engine can't handle vehicles well or at all. It's all smoke and mirrors.
>>730856096Anon, the roads are ruined. There's no supply chain. The tech tree got reset. There should be SOME salvaged shit still being used tho
>>730856291>the roads are ruined>THATS why we have to live in a hole surrounded by scrap steel and walk with brahmin packs for 200 miles to trade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSP0rKieqac&t=83s
>>730856189It can. Bethesda just cant make them work.
>>730856291The roads we see are good enough for a car to trundle along fairly easily. NCR was paving new roads, too.
>find a fully functional, prisitne working car wich can be reversed engineer and give you a major tactical advantage>LOL LE BLOW IT UP ARNT THESE GUYS STUPIDThese guys would have been placed on the firing wall in any BoS chapter
>>730856291>the roads are ruined.Why didn't a private company build roads instead?Capitalism btfo, pay your taxes goy
>>730856189>Bethesda's shitty 400 year old game engine can't handle vehicles well or at all.>One modder mogs the entirety of Bethesda's devs
>>730853812FALLOUT 2 WAS PEAK FALLOUT
>>730856096>YOU CAN HAVE LASER PISTOLS AND ALIENZ BUT CARS ARE UNREALISTICALLY ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY
>>730856189i mean this is the game that made the monorail you ride a fucking NPC’s helmet you stand in while they slowly walk around
>>730856189That's the actual answer, as silly as it sounds. They had problems with implementing them, so vehicles got handwaved as impossible to use anymore due to radiation magic.
>>730856763>let me guess>you need more?
>>730856189Don't worry, this'll all be finally fixed when they're forced to abandon Gamebryo and use Unreal 5 like literally everyone else.They'll lock vehicles behind DLC, of course, it'd be too good to just let you have a vehicle in the basegame since they want to "test the waters for if fans are ready for a Fallout designed around using vehicles", but it'll happen eventually.
>>730856189It absolutely can, this is just a flowery way to say Bethesda can't code.
>>730856894I don't trust them after Starfield, not even for a second.
>>730856982They bullshat things with Starfield because that would set up expectation for Fallout if Starfield had true functioning vehicles, it's basic understanding of how each installment with the "new" engine will develop the possibilities of the successive installments.
>>730856779Okay? And?
>>730856096Actually, there are still vehicles in Fallout 4's lore. There's an encounter where raiders reference working motorcycles, apparently common enough to be part of everyday conversation.
>>730857110Doubt it. There's no such encounter or even bikes in the game.
>>730857110>Fallout 5 where your companion is a fully functional motorcycle>Equipped with the ability to modify it as much as the power armor in FO4 if not even moreWould be cool but Todd would never.
>>730856894>when they're forced to abandon Gamebryoit's not even a gamebryo issueit's not even a bethesda + gamebryo issuebethesda made a (godawful) racing game on gamebryo between morrowind and oblivion
>>730856517>finally finish the quest to get the car>crrck, vrrrrrmmmm>start gliding across the wasteland past all the raider and mutant fucking shitsThis kind of ludo isn't allowed in games anymore.
>>730857251Why don't they have horses or bows in Fallout? It's weird that they don't do it when the tech is there from Skyrim.
>>730856869>killbots on wheels are realistic, but a f-four wheeled v-vehicle? M-MASAKA!
If Bethesda included a vehicle in one of their games, it would be unavoidable and shoved in your face constantly because they wouldn't want to waste development time on something players might not see. You would unlock it within the first two hours and half the development time would be dedicated to the car gimmick, letting you find incremental upgrades for fuel efficiency and more storage space. The world would be completely empty and untraversable by foot, and naturally the RPG elements would have to be slimmed down even further.In the end the car wouldn't even feel cool or special because it would be assumed that you have it by default.
>>730857251Motorcycle + Sidecar for the comfort of your chosen companion
>>730857546Sounds like you should play the Mad Max game. Also Rage 2. That one was amazing on max difficulty with the sword.
>>730857546This is the reality of it, you could only make the vehicle work in a DLC area as a fun novelty, if you make it a key fixture of the entire main world then your entire setting is reduced to idle time between points of interest and takes place entirely within interiors because the outside world is vehicle world.
>>730857603Sounds like you need to play Cyberpunk 2077.
>>730857271https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOQTUKuaa2QYou'll have to play mods if you want to experience kino like that again
>>730856926Well, no shit. That's why their games tended to be easy to mod, as if during design stage they already considered modding being very important for their success. So, they put most of their work into creating settings, the rest of the game being quite obviously bare-bones. This way they save time and money on making things they're not sure people will like, instead concentrating on making an environment that is interesting enough to mod it to player's liking. The successful modding scene made Bethesda even lazier than they used to be. Just how many re-releases Skyrim had?
>>730856690Peak reddit.
https://youtu.be/epI2tO2xLqI?list=PLS1Q-j5f8Wvz3YVls1suUNy8tRPTb1_ZOIt's still so incredibly hype to me that you can get a working tank and apc in tactics.
>People thinking vehicles can't work in an open world RPG.Are they crazy?
>>730857674which version of nevada to play?
>>730857661>shilling polackshit cyberglitch 2077 in The Year of Our Lord 2026I'm a Polack myself and I assure you that 2077 in the game name literally means the year it will be a full, good game.
>>730857887haha epic
cyberpunk 2077 was fun because i like videogames
>>730857757You'd like the Phoenix Point game. You can brink vehicles into battle and use their heavy weapons for support fire. You can also load your units into them for rapid transport across the map. There was also a game set in a cold place that let you use a vehicle as well. I can't remember it, but it's like the old Fallouts.
>>730857546They could handle it like Starfield and the space ships, which is a lot like FO2 did the car.>huge ass realistically scaled map>most of it is empty wasteland>fast travel between PoIs with a chance of something happening on the road>add some areas meant for the car to be driven in real time
>>730857964interesting, thanks.
>>730857887IMO the game is finished at this point. They should move on to Witcher 4 or Cyberpunk 2.
>>730857964How is Pheonix Point these days? I liked it, played it several times but never finished it once because the end game was so tedious.
>>730857964>There was also a game set in a cold place that let you use a vehicle as well. I can't remember it, but it's like the old Fallouts.Wasteland 3 I assume.Also, Fallout Tactics had cars (and tanks) as well.
>>730858190wasteland 3 had the kodiak god the intro of that game is so good. i smiled so hard when the battle music transitioned to https://youtu.be/XReurK9akWE
>>730858190>Wasteland 3That was it. Nice top down RPG with turn based mechanics.
>>730858163I skipped all that by cheating resources. Also installed a mod that let me go full machine when augmenting soldiers. Unfortunately I never got to see the higher stage hives because I was so effective that I always caught them early. That's the one downside of the game. They needed more hive variety.
>>730856189Starfield has space cars. Fallout 4 has a semi functional helicopter system, and obsessed fanboys of new vegas managed to mod in ridable cars and horses.Adding vehicles in any of those games just shows off how fucking pointless they are because the world size is pathetic and empty.
>>730857996CD PROJEKT RED is now basically a shell company compared to the original team that brought them to international light. It's been trannoidized and feminized. I wouldn't expect anything good from them at this point.
>>730857705>Just how many re-releases Skyrim had?I'm not even sure. 15? I seriously lost track.
>>730858586They have yet to make a bad game.
>>730858586Has Cyberpunk not been engoodened, though? Has it not been "No Man's Sky"ed?
>>730857303>Why don't they have horsesBecause they have no idea how to stop horses from climbing 89d inclines>or bows in FalloutIt's called the Gauss gun in Fallout 4.
>>730858714I'm the only person on /v/ who likes it desu
The real problem is that Bethesda never figured out how to make working vehicles in gamebryo. Or ladders, lmao.
>>730858841I've got nothing to say, but I'll spoiler it anyway because I want to waste your time.Thanks for reading.
>>730856610It's funny how they keep going>LE CODEXBut they constantly go against it, the writing is atrociously bad.
>>730857135https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1uvLZ-K_KIConsidering how much they know about motorcycles, it's safe to assume there are working ones around.
>>730856668maybe frontier wasnt that bad
>>730859523nah it was still badXilantros mod was just a sweet cherry on a shit caketoo bad he had a melty and forbid anyone from posting the standalone mod and banning anyone posting it on Nexus
>>730858697Because they're not releasing anything new, just trying to fix what was already released broken.
>>730859523The vehicles are a technical marvel for a Bethesda game. The mod itself and everything else around it was so legitimately bad for a myriad of reasons that /v/'s memetic unraveling of it ended up with the mod being reworked entirely.
>>730856189You couldn't drive the highwayman around
>>730859523driving cars is the only good part of it and you can get the car mod as a standalone and it's cool
>>730860257Phantom Library only released a bit over 2 years ago and was better than the base game in many aspects.
>>730857849imagine driving across the wasteland in 5 minutes
>>730853812I like how they never fixed the bug in Fallout 4 where just lightly brushing up against one of these has a 50% chance of instakilling you via physics bullshit.
>>730860391That's nice and short. You can do the same in any GTA game.
If fallout gets drivable vehicles I need the map to be fucking huge so you can have epic mad max vehicle battles on the way to the grocery store. I want to see a convoy of raider buggies appear on the horizon, I want to pick apart wrecks for supplies.https://youtu.be/spJf3pqFooI
>>730856189Nah, Bully uses Gamebryo and has vehicles. It’s just vehicles don’t fit Bethesda world spaces because everything is cluttered and filled to the max. It kinda works in NV because of how empty it is, honestly the frontier did it best imo.
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>>730853812>>730856096>>730856189>>730856668>>730857546>Todd mindbroke /v/aginas so hard they have to make shit up to have something to be angry about
>>730853812AAAAAAAAH SAVE ME nuBOS BLOW UP THAT CAR RIGHT NOW
>>730856690Peak ass.
>>730856869How did they get away with it?
>>730862327WHERE'S MY PIPE?? CARFIELD!!
>>730862327Nobody bothered to play Starfield althoughbeit.
>>730863312FIRST OF THE BORF STAR!
>>730860391You can just warp across it in seconds.
>>730862327>starfieldnot an argument
Why no bikes?
>>730866698All the disgusting supermutants and ghouls stole them
>>730853812I don't know why people seethe so much. A world that works well for vehicles can't be fun to explore on foot. Either the car is tripping over detail every 2 seconds or sites have massively long empty stretches between them
>>7308538122 really was the best Fallout.
>>730853812It's dumb. Get over it.
