>>730856572What a good thing to do, sending all that to Capcom. I am sure they will get right on fixing this issue!
>your fps is low?
Not that Milds needed another thing to get shat on, but it's still funny to see.Hoping the B team reveals the Rise sequel this year so we can put this abomination behind us.
>>730856572>pay more for more framesi'm suprised nintendo's investors didnt come up with this first
>>730856572it's obviously a spaghetti code fuck up.it's useless as a motivator to buy DLC, because there's no obvious way to tell that it would have any effect without directly stating so.bad performance would actually cause someone to be less likely to buy dlcwhoever was the one who coded this check is probably sweating at the moment
If this was the only fuck up I'd consider it super suspect but Wilds is so insanely made that it doesn't even have proper LoD scaling yet.
>>730857218It's not like Switch can into FPS to begin with.
>>730856572>at the point of selling performance as DLCit's so over
>>730857331Probably. Thought it wouldn't surprise me if someone eventually does something like this and just tells people the DLC has added optimizations. It just looks bad for a game to run poorly unless you pay more no matter what the reason is this when a lot of people are already becoming distrustful.
>>730857048Please god fucking no, Sunbreak was fucking terrible if you played IG or LS
>>730856572why can't japs code? it's been decades and they're just getting worse...
>>730857605Capcooom had some absolutely stunning PC ports though
>>730857331>whoever was the one who coded this check is probably sweating at the moment100% jeet fuckup, they don't care in the slightest if they're fired.
>>730857605I have a hunch
>>730857605>why can't japs codeJapan was ahead of the curve with making games that run like shit, now the rest of the world has caught up.
>>730857658yeah 20 years agoDMC4SE runs drastically worse than DMC4 despite being the same game lolWorld ran like shit yet it still ran better than Milds on launchAnd Dragon Dogshit 2 port is worse than the holocaust
>>730857848And yet DMC5 and all the resis since 7 all run great.I think Capcom just have a set of twins they cycle between for games. One only codes good, the other evil.
>>730856572>Expected FRAMEPASS™ to come from Nvidia>Actually comes from CrapcomNips has surpassed Jews.
>>730857891Idiot. The RE engine is ONLY good for linear games built from sets of rooms and corridors. It absolutely shits itself if you try to do more with it, yet Crapcum thought it could handle open world.
are you people believing jpgs as gospel againchrist.
>>730857974Why do you feel the need to call me an idiot?
>>730857739mr patel won't fire mr gupta, but mr smith (who never touched the code) might be in trouble
>>730857985from cropped twitter no less this place is really brown
>>730858017he has an incurably itchy asshole and it causes him to lash out
>>730857605>>730857761Nips were some of the best coders in the world during the 8bit/16bit era. Maybe all the talent acked itself when the Japanese economy died during the 90s.
>>730857218They've done it. Pokémon Legends ZA's Switch 2 Edition is the only upgrade thus far that merely increases resolution and frame rates like the free ones but is paid like the upgrades that also add new content.
>>730857948>NipsJewpanese*
>>730857605it's just a mistake nobody would think about. Like that guy who managed to reduce GTA5's loading time by like 80% by changing a line of code
>>730858034>mr patel won't fire mr guptaI thought they only had outsourcing, not actual managing controlled by jeets
Wasnt this not the first time this happened? I vividly remember iceborne had a similar issue back then.
>>730858057Japan has been living in the year 2000 since 1980.
>>730857948Capcom are inventors of on-disc-DLC.The Jews fear the Samurai because they are the only ones who can match them.
>>730857948>>730858082>Have been making Framepass jokes for a while>Decided to check if it's actually a real thing>It unironically exists and is, in fact, not a jokeJesus Christ.
>>730858195tell me you aint believing the fucking gemini summery bro and this is just a little teehee hoho moment
>>730856572Completely intended by denuvo
>>730857605nips CAN code very well, it's just the japanese fucked up corporate/office culture that's fucking everything up
>>730858241>little teehee momentMichael Jackson warned us and was right about the Jews all along
>>730858341Ok but it's just cloud shit at the moment.Nothing has ever remotely been announced for offline performances yetMJ was too based for this world, I agree.
>>730858397>at the moment.
>>730858553Let me just bask in copium believing it won't ever be standard, for once
>>730858616i'm sorry anon but copium times ended a long time ago.at least for me.
>we've reached the point where buying DLC improves your performanceI want out of this fucking timeline holy shit everything is so gay
>>730858397>Year 2046>Be me, Bong>Boot up my favorite still unbanned video game>RTX 8070 is set to 1500MHz, can only play at 30fps>Go into settings and increase clock speed>WARNING, NO FRAMEPASS GOLD ACCOUNT DETECTED>Automated message notifies me that my digital ID has been forwarded to the internet police>Get five years in prison for antisemitism
>>730856572I genuinely can't imagine a non contrived way one would write such a check in such a way that it actually impacts FPS. Like, what, does it check a hundred times per frame? Does it perform I/O for every single check?And if it does, how is it even possible for this to take LESS time when you have fewer DLCs?Something about this story doesn't make sense.
>>730858980There are multiple ways to write shit code, anon. The same way how there ware multiple ways to write good code, but the latter is more difficult.
>>730858189>Capcom are inventors of on-disc-DLC.And Koei, another jap, ran with it for years with their Xtreme Legends versions. Then Capcom had enough and they had a legal kike showdown which made Koei butcher the SW 4-II into the world's first ever stand alone DLC - main game not included. Capcom is also the reason why you stopped seeing loading screen mini-games. Sure the patent ran out but nobody bothers making them anymore.Japs also invented gacha and NTR. Then they combined the two. If you don't daily login in Taimanin card game your waifus get raped. You have organizations trying to stop psychologically addictive incentives such as daily "login rewards". These guys came up with daily "forgot-to-login punishments" LMAOYet all of this pales in comparison to Kiketendo and their relentless jewery about mods, emulators, free fan games, streaming copyright, patents and even fan art. I mean just look at their seethe over Palworld.
>>730858980probably something like>check if this account has DLC X added>yes? okay do whatever you need to do>no? do 50 different checks if there's no DLC files installed in case the user is trying to play the DLC illegally or some shitis one example on how it could tank the performance
>>730856572>buy extra framesI'm tired, boss...
>>730858096dumb newfag
>>730858334Care to elaborate on the specifics of this?
>>730859060>I mean just look at their seethe over Palworld.The amount of malding that game generated both at Nintendo and their fans is astonishing, to say the least.Has anything remotely ever came close to that level of seething?
>>730857218Honestly why are fags crying about nintendo's greed when the competition is always far worse.
>>730856572My face when I burn my Capcom sponsorship and youtube partnership to the ground and now boycott all the games they make as a result of years of bad practice decisions.
>>730859287it's honestly a big topic. one thing is just that it's dystopic shit for the average worker, crunch all the time, extreme working hours, no benefits, literally "living for the company" type of shit. but the other thing is that because partly of how japanese culture works, if you're younger/more junior/on a lesser position, you pretty much have nothing to say on the metter, whatever the matter may be. For example, you work as an employee in a team, and do some technical work, doesn't have to be related to coding, it can be anything. You discover that you could do things much more efficiently if you switched to method Y or used a different tool or whatever. You tell this to your superior and he dismisses you, cause in his eyes you're his lesser, so what do you know? there's a lot more to this psychologically and socially, but it's basically "your opinion doesn't matter, just do your job drone". And it's all the way up. Let's say your boss is cool and says "yeah it's a good idea" and takes it up to his boss - and the situation repeats, "what do you know?". so people stop trying to improve things, because why would they want to expose themselves to this kind of abuse? also in japan the don't like people standing out, so it's even more frowned up. So people just say fuck it, i'll do things inefficiently. and they do. and they don't report it.So it leaves people "at the top" to make the decisions, and a lot of the time it goes like this>oh we have project 2137 coming up, what's the plan on this one>well we alwasy did it this way>it's the safe way>ok let's do it this wayand the circle of corporate mediocrity continues because noone dares challenge it.it's also present more and more in western companies, but i heard it's especialy bad in japan. as i said it's much more to this, there's articles out there if you wanna read up on that. it's an interesting social topic.
>>730859515Not really. Yuzu, Project M, AM2R etc. all come distant 2nd.
>>730856572>not intentionalsure
Sounds like bullshit and confirmation biasIf the low FPS happens because it's checking if you own dlc, then your FPS would still be high when its not checking. Which isn't the caseAnd secondly, owning the dlc wouldn't stop the game from checking if you do own it. It's gonna constantly ping the server to check
There are people who now bought all the DLC just for extra frames.I wonder if they even realize what they just taught companies.Can't wait for all the>why do you think you're entitled to high framerates?! Leave the company alone!bootlicking.
>>730859060>Yet all of this pales in comparison to Kiketendo and their relentless jewery about mods, emulators, free fan games, streaming copyright, patents and even fan art.Nigga that's basic IP law. None of it affects consumers like actively gimping a game does.>. I mean just look at their seethe over Palworld.The only people seething are Palworld fanboys.
>>730860650>There are people who now bought all the DLC just for extra frames.I'm kind of surprised that no one on PlayStation noticed it earlier since they're such dlc sluts.
>>730860906LOOK THERE HE IS THE CHIGYU CREATURE
>>730861080>anon says only Palworld fans are seething>immediately post the comic made by a seething Palworld fanboyWay to prove his point, retard.
>>730861191>anonShut up tendie.
>>730859515I think the BOTW and TOTK leaks came close, though it was time-limited butthurt until buycucks got to play on official release. Palworld butthurt is going to be eternal.
>>730861191The kicker is that he went through the effort of changing the imagehash and filename. Palworld fanboys are so insecure.
>>730860029Let me ask you this though. The thread chain started because anon claimed it was getting worse. And I'm inclined to agree with him. What specifically changed in the work culture to make it worse? Or is it that nothing changed in the work culture and games are that much harder to code making the same corporate culture ineffective in today's gamedev?
>>730861409>What specifically changed"Lost decades".Which is the Japanese version of "competence crisis".
>>730859060>Japs also invented gacha and NTR.No wonder they are all dying by not having children or literally killing themselves. What a fucking cucked nation, literally
>>730858070Animal Crossing's does the same thing and raises the multiplayer cap. Any new content in BotW/TotK is locked behind a fucking phone app. Prine 4 does the same and I guess adds mouse controls.
>>730859082Worked in software, this is really plausible. Isn’t this basically like Denuvo though?
>>730861554You know nips didn't invent those things right?
>>730861607I'm other words they don't do the same things.
>>730858134You're so naive. That's cute.
>>730861703Yeah because mouse controls are totally worth $10.
>>730861658only if you mean the performance hit. denuvo is extremely complicated, what with having it's own virtual cpu, on-the-fly obsfucation and other magical bullshit
>>730861748If it's not worth it, don't buy it.I dont see the issue.
>>730856572insane how RE engine became worse than jeet engine 5Imagine being a monster shitter cuck LMAO
>>730861748Anon, you do know what you're talking about, right?
>>730861664>gachaThey did, that's why it's called gacha in the first place since it comes from Gachapon thanks to japs kikery and gambling addiction>ntrthey didn't invented cuckholdry, but they made it popular by spamming that dogshit with hentai and nowadays even in normal media like mangas or anime
>>730861818Nah, re engine is fine rise didn't have this issue. The problem is the MH B team being woefully incompetent and fucking up Wilds like they did World.
>>730861846I never know what I'm talking about so I choose to reply to the questions the voices in my head ask.
>>730857605Could be they do it in house and have little experience with PC, I would honestly wager a tiny percent at capcom play on PC.So its very >It should work, you might just need a stronger PCMonster Hunter Wilds release was honestly quite shockingly poor.
>>730861974Cool. Thanks for confirming you lose.
>>730857605Japanese cat ^y^
>>730861849Anon, gachapon is what they called it based on the sound it makes. As a concept it has its roots in America.https://mantan-web.jp/article/20150823dog00m200001000c.html>Capsule toys, affectionately known as "gacha gacha," are celebrating their 50th anniversary this year since being imported from the US in 1965.>but they made it popular by spamming that dogshit with hentai and nowadays even in normal media like mangas or animeThat goes to America as well, if you ask someone what ntr is they won't know but if you say something about blacked you're going to get people thinking about cheating
>>730857605they use AI to code nowidk if it's better or worse
>>730862163Don't be retarded anon, do you really think it wouldn't have been discovered by now? Not to mention it would have had major performance issues on every platform from the start if that were the case.Don't defend the B team. Ever since they were put together for world they've been fucking up hard.
>>730862225>nobody knows what their own programs do anymore>because they asked an AI to generate itIts much worse.
>>730862163IB had performance issues that were fixable via a mod. The mod would remove some background checks that didn't really do anything. There were also issues with the tick rate of pierce ammo.
>>730861409what >>730861496 said. you must understand that in general, the white collar worker effort has been shifted(through various means) from "we need to innovate on things to get ahead" to "we need to put out as much stuff out as possible and get as much money as possible". A lot of technology has been "solved", so to speak, look at UE5 - in the 90s companies would write their own engines because they wanted them to be efficient in whatever they wanted them to (FPS, RTS, w/e). But now people(CEOs) think "why would we want to waste time on writing this? just get one off the shelf".>yeah but that's bideo gaemsno anon, that's EVERY industry. software, appliances, cars, everything. people don't think about "how should arrange this dashboard in our newest car?", they just slap a tablet on there and call it a day. they don't even make the tablet themselves, they buy cheap premades from china with premade software, written by cheapest programmers imaginable(pajeets). and this is everywhere anon.yes, there are actual competent programmers, but they're increasingly scarce - most "programmers" just use whatever framework and copypaste whatever code just to push another project/product out of the door. they don't learn because they don't need to learn - they just need to finish what's in front of them and get paid.
>>730862516>since it took a whole 11 months to find this outAnd you think they wouldn't have found said checks in a game that was datamined about five years ago?
>>730858181The US still uses floppys too.
>>73086229640k techpriest are going to be real within our lifetime.We'll have fully AI generated code nobody understands because nobody actually bothers to learn coding, just let the AI do it.If there are any issues they call the techpriest who in turn mumbles prompts/prayers into his AI in an attempt to fix it.The only difference is that we don't warp through the galaxy but play 30 year old remakes at 20 fps.
>>730862170>imagine being this disingenuous when japs was the one who created and popularized both of those terms as we know todaySure thing retard, gacha as we know today as surely made by Americans and not the retarded gambling addict nips who made FGO (who still alive today) and all the pachinko machines>if you ask someone what ntr is they won't knowAgain, imagine being this disingenuous, when the first comment literally said "NTR", a term that JAPS created and popularized by spamming that dogshit nonstop with hentai and later with normal media like manga and anime, that you have to do mental gymnastics to attach with the cuckshit as we know, even tho i even said in my previous comment that they didn't invent cuckholdry, but created this specific term and popularized
>>730856572Denuvo having a performance hit isn't exactly news.
>>730857759testers can easily be replaced by AI though. literally just need someone to stumble around like a retard until he breaks the game
>>730862940Isnt your whole post a bunch of assumptions based on things without evidence?
>>730862940>I think it's possible that nobody would've cared enoughAssumption.>It's also possible that the checks that do exist are not retardedAssumption.
>>730863510You are assuming that possibility is true in your statements, yes.Why is this confusing you so much?
>>730856572All that DLC for dragons dogma 2 they didnt release makes sense now in tandem with its performance.No seriously, it seems that they planneed to have an expansive store but the backlash on launch about the shit they had made them completely halt all of it and do literally none at all, but the strings were already attatched at that point. Its the only capcom game ever to not recieve updates via MTX. Literally not a thing, for the game that is about customization. I fucking hate modern gaming, the fact that I can even say this as a possability and it not be utter bullshit is so stupid.
>>730863705>I'm not assuming that the possibility is true, I'm assuming that the possibility is possible"Possible" means "could be true".Thats means you have to assume it can be true, or you are not actually discussing possibilities.Agreed?
>>730862771>gacha as we know today as surely made by Americans and not the retarded gambling addict nips who made FGO (who still alive today) and all the pachinko machinesAnon, it's the same concept as the capsule machines, money in, something random out. It's not pachinko either which actually came from Corinthian bagatelle in the UK. Whether you want to accept it or not these things weren't made in Japan. I wouldn't even say they were popularised in Japan given they only had a resurgence in western countries when people became obsessed with Japan and bringing these things back over.>imagine being this disingenuousThat's not how you use the word "disingenuous" because I actually know what I'm talking about whereas you're trying to undermine the popularity of cheating porn with black actors in the West compared to NTR which is fairly niche by comparison. As much as you want to reference things like this >>730859060 no one knows what Taimanin Asagi Battle Arena is.>that you have to do mental gymnastics to attach with the cuckshit as we knowIt's almost as if they're the same thing. Having a different word for it in a different language doesn't change that fact you know, acting as if they're different when they factually aren't is actually being disingenuous, and that's how you use that word.>but created this specific term and popularizedAnon, if it isn't the most well known or lucrative version then it wasn't what popularised it.You're basically doing that thing where people blame Microsoft for paid online when Sony was the company that actually made it popular with casual masses.
>>730863705>I'm confused as to why you're arguing in bad faith just because I questioned whether Rise has the issue or not despite there not being any evidence either way.The irony being that you're arguing in bad faith like Rise hasn't already been gutted and nothing was found. This whole argument started because you assumed the lack of evidence meant no one searched rather than the correct assertion that the lack of evidence was a result of searching and finding nothing over the course of five years.
>>730856572it's probably denuvo
>>730863949It isn't. Denuvo doesn't check dlc.
>>730863820>the whole first comment is about gacha trash as we know today and NTR, a term that was invented and popularized by cuck Japs>retard makes a giant mental gymnastic to try and disassociates both terms from Japs cucks even tho they are the responsible for both of themNot even going to waste my time anymore with your bullshit, you are clearly arguing in bad faith this whole time. I would probably call you a Jap, but knowing 4Chan you are probably a butthurted weeb mad people are talking shit about your precious jap cuck culture
>>730856572>Guys pls be nice to use we did everything we could to optimize the game please!
>>730859060>Nintendo out of nowhereStill mad about those lawsuits palfag?
>>730864118>Not even going to waste my time anymore with your bullshitYou can just admit that you didn't know any of this anon. It's okay to be ignorant if you choose to take in that information. The problem is that in the face of being proven wrong you're lashing out instead of taking in that information.>but knowing 4Chan you are probably a butthurted weeb mad people are talking shit about your precious jap cuck cultureIf that were the case I would have happily accepted it as Japanese culture instead of telling you that just about everything you associate with Japan was basically poached from other cultures.In any case I'll just accept this as a consession from you since it's clear from your little temper tantrum that you have no more arguments.
>>730864256>Yes, I have to assume it CAN be trueI know.Thanks for confirming my previous statement to be correct.
>>730864256>Me asking if we're sure is me *not knowing whether it was searched or not*, it's not assuming it wasn't searchedThe problem is that you didn't ask, you made an assumption that it wasn't found based on the hardware despite how nonsensical that idea is. >>730862163>Rise was built to run on weaker hardware but it's entirely possible it has the same issue and that it just went unnoticed.And no, putting a rhetorical first doesn't mean you asked.
>>730864256>I have to assume it CAN be trueAnon, any assumption CAN be true if you don't have enough information. We have enough information to say that it's not true but you're going against that because you're under the impression that no evidence can't mean anything.Basically you're a retard.
>>730858195>retard doesn't understand what he's reading>assumes that he is the smart one and it's the world that is dumb Happens way too often. You're probably able to read this post and still think that you aren't wrong.
>>730864458>has no evidence to support his own claims>makes assumptions based on this lack of evidence>"NOO! I DIDNT ASSUME ANYTHING REEEEEEEEE!":/
>>730864535I think you meant to reply to this guy >>730864256
>>730864594No, I replied to the correct post.You are making an awful lot of assumptions today, huh?
>>730864718I asked if you agreed with me, and you said "yes" and explained why you agree with me.What are you crying about?
>>730864476Are you implying JewVidia doesn't have a premium option on their streaming service that has more frames?
>>730864718>And yet the very post you quoted questions "Are we sure?"Which, in the way you used it, was rhetorical.>I still haven't gotten an answer to throughout this whole argument.It's almost as if it's rhetorical and people have been addressing your assumption.>. Are we or are we not sure?If you're really going to play the ignorant child, yes we are sure. The game has been datamined and nothing was found to affect performance in that way.
>>730864718>I'd like to have solid evidence.Solid evidence of something that doesn't exist? Well, you'll be happy to know that you already have it. That evidence is nothing you retard.
>>730857605Why cant westoids?
>>730865109left has minimal transparency passesright is loaded with themthat's the difference
>>730864630No, you definitely replied to the wrong post. You see, what you said didn't make any sense since in this conversation the lack of evidence is evidence since you're trying to prove something exists while everyone else is trying to prove it doesn't.If the game for some reason or the other is patched to have these aggressive checks then yeah you would have evidence that they exist now but as it is you're the omky one here with no evidence.
>>730865109since when ukraine is considered west?
>>730865220Since forever?
>>730865220since russia tried to invade them 5 years ago
>>730865109Ray tracing was a disgrace for optimization, yes.>b-b-but Mirror's Edge uses baked lightingThere are ways to use Dyn lightings efficently. Ray tracing is NOT one of them.
>>730865137>No, you definitely replied to the wrong postNo, I didn't. Keep crying.
>>730857218>i'm suprised nintendo's investors didnt come up with this firstCapcom invented DLCs in the 90sThey have been selling Street Fighter 2 for at least 40 yearsCapcom has ALWAYS been the ULTIMATE JEW of the video game industry
>>730856572xcom2 did this, they fixed engine issues in dlc with controversial content adds but never fixed vanilla game a lot people preferred. Not only that dlc just duplicated all vanilla files instead using the old ones doubling game size for no reason.
>>7308595158.8
>>730865284Russia took Crimea 12 years ago though
>>730865340>I wasn't using it rhetoricallyNot being aware that you used it rhetorically doesn't mean you didn't use it rhetorically. It means you weren't aware.>Was this before or after they added the Enigma DRM in 2024?Enigma is irrelevant to the conversation. It's pc exclusive and a completely different matter to these dlc checks that we're talking about.
>>730857605Give them some slack, all code is in English, and you know how bad the japs are at that.
>>730865340>someone just needs to buy all the DLC or go through the code like the Redditor did.Why do you think we have no evidence?It's not because no one checked, it's because they did and returned with nothing.That's how it fucking works
journos picking this up now as well. digital foundry gonna have to embarass capcom again just like with re village diasaster
>>730857218I'm more surprised people will believe literally anything but I suppose I shouldn't be.
>>730866103Most people don't, I mean, around here it's just this guy >>730865340
This can't be real. It's just a ruse.
>>730857605You ignore a lot of big western games that run like dogturd by saying this.
>>730862930>Ai just do the same tests, never testing anything different of having insights:)
>don't worry about it. dlss and frame generation will fix it :)
>>730866436>NormallyThats just an appeal to the masses, classic logical fallacy.
>>730866051me on the left
>>730866649Okay, well I would say that is evidence it doesn't exist. Would you not say it's evidence it doesn't exist?
>>730859060They invented gacha capsules?
>>730866885I'm sorry I don't speak ESL.Can you try and re-word that into English? Thanks.
>>730857218Pretty sure this is literally the case for Prime 4
>>730859060I wish all NTR and Futa fags would get fucking lynched.You faggots don't belong on this planet, breathing the same air as the rest of us.
>>730867027If someone checks the game by getting all the DLC and going through the code and returns with nothing, is that not evidence that this specific performance issue doesn't exist?
>>730867224No, because you can't prove a negative.Again, thats a logical fallacy. Want me to demonstrate why you can't prove a negative?
>>730867308>No, because you can't prove a negative.Did your higher education fail you or are you just retarded? Did you not go to college? Who taught you this false information?See, this is what happens when people just accept random statements on fact on the internet as true without questioning them, they say patently retarded shit like "you can't prove a negative" without a single neuron even firing in their brains.I've tried being nice and de-escalating the argument this entire thread but I'm actually done with the disingenuousness. Don't reply to me again.
>>730856572You wouldn't download more frames.
>>730857605>it's been decades and they're just getting worse...they gave up on coding and decided to make games on the most bloated engine we have(unreal)
>>730856572You don't even need to disguise fps as dlc. Switch 2 versions are literally charging you $10 for resolution and fps settings.
>>730867484>had to bring philosophy into scienceLolLmfaoI can fly, prove that I can't.
>>730866886I feel those are fundamentally different because at least with physical goods, if you want to collect them you can exchange them with other fellow collectionists, while that is rarely possible with gacha games.
>>730858181You'll be surprised by how many american companies still make fax machines mandatory. They keep these things around to curb participation. For things like rebates, insurance claims, unemployment disputes, etc.
>>730867685NTA, but burden of proof is on who make the claim.
but you guys told me that there's nothing wrong with optimization and it's my pc that is bad?
>>730867938Not in this demonstration, as I already stated.You think you can "prove a negative".So prove it can't fly, all on your own, without my involvement in any way, shape or form.This is the only way you can win this argument. Will you fight? Or concede?
>>730868020I claim pink dragons exist, you dont believe it? Prove it faggot.
>>730868232Thats cute, but try and stay on topic.You need to prove that I cant fly, scientifically, without my involvement in any way.Do you concede?
>>730868317im not original poster, no idea what side you argue anymore, im in the burden of proof is on the person who makes the claim camp, everyone with iq over 80 should understand why.
>>730868628>im in the burden of proof is on the person who makes the claim campSo am I, but anon said >"y-y-you CAN prove a negative scientifically!!"And i'm demonstrating why he can't, by insisting that he prove this negative claim to be true.
>>730859515Hogwarts Legacy boycott
>>730867572Capcom only used UE4 for SFV, then they went back to their own shit for SF6.MT Framework was great but RE engine is slop, further fucked by their coding and retarded (Denuvo) decisions.Can't seethe at Timmy all the time, jewtube favela-kun.
>>730868750>by insisting that he prove this negative claim to be true.The lack of evidence proves him right.An investigation that turns up with nothing is the evidence that the negative statement is true.The problem is that you can't conceptialise the lack of evidence AS evidence.
>>730869103>but RE engine is slop,The problem isn't RE engine, the problem is that since World they've been using all new hires and outsourced a bulk of the work. It's why Rise ran like a dream because everyone on it was experienced.
>>730856572this sounds like some decade old EA meme
>>730869215>The lack of evidence proves him right.Not scientifically it doesn't, which was the entire stipulation.Thanks for confirming I was correct.
>>730857605>why can't japs code?Japan never switched over from IBM era mindset. Coding is just monkey work that needs to be done in order for hardware to work.Game devs are all self-taught, English levels vary wildly (kind of important in modern IT) and are expected to strive to get a REAL job by 30 or so.
>>730865674They balance it out by giving people games they actually want, with actual hot women in them. Ironically, they're free of jewish feminist western influence in that way.based nippon company whaling amerifats as reparations for getting the big dokidoki nukesama twice during ww2
>those shills saying it doesn’t run like hot garbage bought all the dress up doll dlc Jfc every day is a humiliation ritual for wilds faggots
>>730869379>Not scientifically it doesn't,Yes, yes it does. Again if nothing is found after an investigation then the negative claim is proven, that's part of the scientific method. You aren't very smart, are you.
>>730869525What's more hilarious is that those same people would cry tendie any time you call them out so it's literally just sonyfags buying the dlc.
>>730869602>Yes, yes it doesThen please, proof that I can not fly in your next reply, without a single shadow of a doubt.Go ahead, this is your last chance.Remember, if there is room for doubt, you lose.
>>730857331the game runs a file watch scanning the game directory for dlc's, every frame. niggerlicious noob code.
>>730869663>bringing sony into thisthis is all about the PC version you mong, they would be playing the PS5 version which doesn't even have these problems
>>730869379Okay dude let's say you're trying to prove that water doesn't react with say... Cardboard in an explosive manner. The way to test it would be to place cardboard in water.It, of course, does nothing but get soggy.That lack of a reaction is evidence that it does not in fact react explosively.
>>730859665Wilds needs a DLC pack to increase FPS, nintendo demands you buy a new console. Nintendo is worse here
>>730869701>proof that I can not fly in your next replyOkay, post yourself flying. If you can't provide evidence of you flying even after an attempt at doing so then you can't fly.Simple as that.
>>730856572Did they hire Kaidan? LMAO
>>730869758>which doesn't even have these problemsIt does, EVERY version has this specific problem. Even if it didn't it wouldn't take away from the fact that the response was to scream tendie which is only said by sonyfags.
this sounds like nodev nonsense. there's no computing difference between checking 100 TRUE or 100 FALSE.
>>730869767>>730869827>hasn't proved that I can't fly>begs me to prove it for themLolLmfaoI accept your concession btw.
>>730858980Honestly, I'm still a bit skeptical because of the guy going>"oooooohhh I'd totally share my mod but ohhhhhh it's not ready yet please let me finish it first, not saying what files are specifically doing it either"I'm holding judgement until the guy actually releases his patch, if he does.
>>730869701You'll first have to prove that finding anything after an investigation is not proof that this issue doesn't exist.But you can't, hence why you try reducing the discussion in a context you can derail.
>>730857218Switch 2 upgrades are literally this but more blatant. All you get is more resolution and fps in most of them. They are charging you for standard settings on a pc game. To be fair though ps5 upgrades did this first.
>>730869928You haven't provided an attempt.This is the scientific method anon, you can't come to a conclusion unless you test/search for it.You made the claim you can fly, we aren't there to push you off of a cliff ergo you must provide an attempt at flight on your own. Being unable to provide said evidence because you obviously can't fly is is in fact evidence that you can't fly because you can't fly.
>>730860253>then your FPS would still be high when its not checking. Which isn't the caseit's checking every single tick. and mod disables the check which increases fps>And secondly, owning the dlc wouldn't stop the game from checking if you do own it. It's gonna constantly ping the server to checkit verifies the ownership via steam so it stops pinging when steam tells crapcom servers you own dlc.
>>730857218They would have to cap base game at 15fps given the low power of their goysole
>>730870095>All you get is more resolution and fps in most of them.Pretty much only one right now is res and performance. Even then it isn't the same thing, it's an upgrade for a game on a new system that can handle the performance boost where the original couldn't. In the case of MH it's the opposite, your system can handle it, there's no reason for you to pay more for that performance.
>>730869701There is no doubt you can't fly because there is nothing that would ever support you flying. What would introduce doubt to us believing you can't fly? You could be asking us to prove that oranges can't transform into bananas without a doubt as well. It's patently obvious based on all previously and currently observable evidence that there is no doubt that that is the case. I'm open to things that would cause doubt 100%, but you've yet to provide that.
>>730866691yore ugleh
>>730870031Sure, I'll do that. Once you can prove a negative claim to be true, scientifically.Go ahead.
>>730870149>>730870889Exactly. You can not prove a negative claim, for exactly these reasons.Glad you understand.
i wouldn't be surprised, total warhammer 2 had a similar issue where every turn on the megamap would load slower the less DLCs you had for some reason, it was never fixed. 3 doesn't have it, but it read more like a litmus test to see if people would notice, and they did.
>>730871084>>730871220We already have. You haven't provided any evidence of the contrary and thus the claim is proven true.That's how it works.
>>730871270>We already haveQuote the exact negative you proved correct, and how.Thanks!
>>730871220You've made a claim that is impossible on its face, so it is logically impossible for it to occur. It's false by its very nature, proving that it's false just requires pointing out that people can't fly. Do you have anything to change that underlying assumption or is your claim dead on arrival?
>>730857218wasnt there an expansion pack for n64 to play some games? or was it snes?
>>730871334You havent proven a single claim you made btw.Just sayin'.
>>730871323You can't fly.You have provided no evidence that you can and humans are anatomically incapable of doing so unassisted. Unless you're saying you aren't human, in which case you would have to identify which species you are so we can ascertain if that species can fly.This is how the scientific method works, we aren't saying you can't because we're saying you can't, we're saying you can't because there's no observable evidence that you can.
>>730856572working for free for a giant corporation
>>730871391My proof for the assumption that humans can't fly is the observed humans throughout the entirety of recorded history, where none of them have been able to fly. It's as rock-solid as any proof could ever be.I ask again, can you do anything to change that underlying assumption or is your claim dead on arrival?
>>730871508>he STILL can't prove a negativeI know you can't.
>>730861080I look, act and speak like this.
>>730861353whatever happened to this kid? it was pretty fun leaving comments on his video.
>>730871543>my proof is an assumptionYou still havent proven tbat I can't fly, thus demonstrating that you can bot prove a negative with to be true with the scientific method.
>>730871576The lack of evidence is proof.Even toddlers can grasp this concept.
>>730856859>You account been banned permanently.
>>730869061It was big, yes, but it's barely discussed those times.Meanwhile even trying to discuss about Palworld in an unrelated thread like this one makes tendies appear and seethe.
>>730871692>The lack of evidence is proofWell there's literally no evidence suggesting I can't fly ITT soo...
>>730871675>You still havent proven tbat I can't flyYou haven't proven you can. That's the proof that you can't.
>>730869781>wtf why doesn't nintendo just magically increase the fps on the same hardware???Anti-Nintendofags are fetal alcohol syndrome mongoloids.
>>730871789Except for, you know, human anatomy. But if you're saying you aren't human this >>730871508Still applies and you'll have to tell us what you are.
>>730871675I proved that your claim is impossible due to observable fact. Make a less flawed claim next time and your sophistry might hold water against your average /v/ poster.
>>730871805You said you could prove a negative, and you still havent done it.Why not? Stop crying and win. I'm getting bored of being correct all the time.
>>730871692>The lack of evidence is proof.kekkwab evenyou literally represent the absence of evidence fallacygo tip your fedora somewhere else
I'm going to proof my semen inside your mum anus.
>>730871856>>>730871860Still hasn't proved a negative claim to be true yet.*yawn*You done?
>>730871836If you want more FPS on your game, is it better to have to buy a 30-dollar DLC or a 500-dollar console? Which would be the worse option for a person who just wants an FPS increase in that game?
>>730871931>30-dollar DLCActually getting all of wilds DLC for maximum fps boost is 560,25€
>>730859060>CHECK ON YOUR WAIFUS RIGHT NOW OR WE'LL PUT IN AN UPDATE WHERE THEY GET RAMMED BY BBC UNTIL THEY GO CRAZY FOR COCK AND GET WOMB TATTOOS WITH "BLACK BABIES ONLY"!
>>730871869>You said you could prove a negativeThe lack of evidence is proof for the negative anon, we cannot observe you flying nor will you provide evidence of you flying ergo you cannot fly.If you want to prove you can fly the only thing you can do is provide counter evidence that you can which you of course can't.
>>730872043No, its not. You just keep pretending that it is, because you dont want to lose.If you can't prove me wrong you lose, simple as.Nothing you have demonstrated ITT is proof of anything.Keep crying.
>>730871927You can prove a negative if the claim is logically impossible, the claim disproves itself when you interrogate the underlying assumptions.Pointing out that is impossible for humans to fly is proving the negative against an argument that relies on the assumption that humans can fly.The issue is that you heard something about not being able to prove a negative from a philosophy teacher once and didn't realize that that only applies to sound arguments. That is, ones in which the premises are true. One of your premises is that humans can fly, which is impossible, so the argument is not sound.I'm doing far too much work for an idiot who will only repeat the same thing he misunderstood the first time he heard it but maybe it will help someone less dumb.
>>730872143>You can prove a negativeSo do it. What are you afraid of? Win in your next reply.
>>730856572>we put the performance patch behind subsequent paywallshow the fuck is this not a Tim & Eric bit?
>>730856572>tricks the game into thinking you have all of the DLCLol? There's been a mod that actually unlocks all of the DLC and even lets you use it online since shortly after release. Use that instead, Capcom deserve it for the extreme kikery
>>730857218What are they going to do, release games at 15 FPS initially instead of 30?
>>730872206I just did. Your argument was that you can fly. I disproved that by showing that the premise that humans can fly is untrue. Your argument is disproven based on untrue premises.Is it or is it not true as a premise that humans can fly? Answer this or I accept your concession and you are required to burn your testicles off in acid.
>>730871931>is it better to have to buy a 30-dollar DLC or a 500-dollar console?The 500 dollar console contains new hardware to facilitate the performance boost. The 30 dollar dlc actively locks the true performance.
>>730872142Then prove you can fly. Otherwise the proof is against you.
>>730872438That's cutewould you rather pay 30 dollars or 500 dollars?
>>730872387>I just did.Quote the exact piece of scientific proof you conducted to prove me wrong from your last reply.Do this or you lose, and are admitting that you can not "prove a negative claim to be true with the scientific method".Last chance, I'm being VERY generous. Don't fuck it up.
>>730872509>Quote the exact piece of scientific proof you conducted to prove me wrong from your last reply.Human anatomy.
>>730872486>still cant prove a negative claim to be true with the scientific method.Then my claim is proven true, yet again.
>>730872546That doesnt prove that negative claims can be proven true with the scientific method.You lose, I win.Thanks for playing.
Why is this autist trying to say he can fly?
>>730872509>admits that his premise that humans can fly is untrue, logically disproving his argumentConcession accepted, dip your balls in acid for wasting our time pretending to be or genuinely being retarded. Actually try reading logic, learning what a sound argument actually means before trying to argue with people next time.
>>730856572>original post deleted by mods and user bannedConfirmed misinformationplease consult Fact Checkers before making harmful claims like these.
>>730871350The N64 had a ram expansion pack, yes.A handful of games like Majora’s Mask and DK64 require it to run, while others will increase the resolution they run at if they detect it.
>>730872556The proof is that you physically can't and haven't provided evidence to the contrary.
>>730872658He has no life outside of chan.I'm being serious, I've seen this exact behaviour repeated many times, each of them with this retard going "i'm too smart" "I win" again and again.That's all he have.
>>730872679Mods confirmed for shills.
It's incredible that you're missing the anon's point this hard.
>>730872663My claim is that negative claims can be proven true with the scientific method.I coupd use any example, but flying is the most fun, because it pisses people off when this obviously untrue thing isn't scientifically dismissable, because you can't scientifically prove a negative claim.
>>730872495I'd rather buy a new pc than buy a dlc that let's me use it anon.Does that make more sense to you?
>>730872721Prove negative claims can be proven true with the scientific method.Thats all you had to do. Why are you so upset?
>>730872806That depends on the anon you're talking about, if you're talking about the guy who's saying you can't prove a negative then he has no point which is why he's now stuck in a loop.
>>730872721He knew from that start that his claim was retarded, but you're seeing in him realize in real time that he can't actually argue for it so he isn't really engaging intellectually anymore. His ego on an anonymous imageboard will not allow him to cop to being wrong or being able to logically defend an illogical position(which nobody could do anyway). You'll get nothing useful out of him at this point, he's milked dry.
>/v/ sees a twitter screencap of a reddit post>HOOLY SHIT IT'S REAL OH MY GOD
>>730872838No it doesn't, because you're not talking about playing the game anymore like we were originally. Now you're just talking about getting a new PC for new PC things.
>>730872903I'm still here.What are you struggling to understand in regards to my point?
>>730872658>I find it hard to believe unless the redditor can prove it's true>>Well you don't have evidence that it isn't true>Okay well then I can fly>>No you can't, prove it>Nuh uh, you have to prove that I can't flyThere you go
>>730872876>make claim that you can fly>check against human anatomy, scientifically humans do not have the correct anatomy to do so>second step is to see flying in action, no observable evidence exists and cannot be providedErgo you cannot fly
>>730873060Prove negative claims can be proven true with the scientific method.Thats all you have to do. You can use literally any example you like.
>>730872992>because you're not talking about playing the game anymore like we were originallySo you admit that buying a new console has nothing to do with the conversation, good.
wait until you learn what duveno does to your fps and processes, retardyes constantly running checks happens in all drm
>>730873046So basically you're being autistic because you can't understand the concept of evidence and think that it has to be something you can always see and that the absence of a result can't ever be evidence.Why don't you kill yourself anon if you die it proves your alive now.
>>730872821>sre I was arguing for something dumb but actually-What you chose to actually argue about for the past hour was retarded and indefensible, and you did that because you didn't have the IQ to properly explain why it is impossible to prove a negative of a sound argument. You just know on a surface-level "no be able to prove negative haha" but don't know what that actually fucking means, so you did what every idiot does on here: use a shitty example to try to illustrate your point when all it does is make things worse.I'm serious, actually study logic so you can understand what a sound argument really is and how that applies to proving a negative. If you did understand that then this would have been over very quickly instead of you smokescreening your lack of understanding behind ironic trolling.>>730872994The post I just replied to was the first time you were actually being genuine since you started shitting yourself on a keyboard. No more (You)s from me, retard.
>>730873116See >>730873060
>>730873342Oh, are you running away? I accept your concession. Thanks for confirming you couldn't prove me wrong.>>730873345Those are claims, not proof of anything.What do you think "proof" means anon? Be specific.
>>730873431>What do you think "proof" means anon?Let's use the first definition that comes up in google>evidence or argument establishing a fact or the truth of a statement.Ergo if humans lack the anatomy to fly and you cannot provide proof of you flying that absence acts as proof establishing the truth that you can't fly.
He used flying as an example because it's obviously illogical, and you know he certainly can't do it...but you actually can't prove him wrong only using the scientific method.Its why it's a good example of this problem he's demonstrating, its frustrating, obviously wrong, but you can't do anything about it with only negative claims to go on.You have to start making positive claims, which proves his point that you can not prove a negative, with only negatives claims.Because science literally only works on repeatable data, and you can't get data on this queation, it's a wall.Am I understanding this right?
>>730873546>GoogleTry a dictionary, site your sources. Then we can continue.
>>730873719Google uses oxford's definitions.Ball is in your court anon.
>>730857218Nintendo has the least aggressive mtx monetization in the industry, which is why their stock is tanking so hard (the make everything off of hardware sales, and the ram shortage puts pressure on hardware production).
>>730873775Okay. Post a link to the exact Oxford definition you are using.Like I said, site your sources, so we can both work from the same page.
If Capcom makes an update about it, then we know if it was true or not.
>>730873134The conversation was "nintendo isn't as bad for paying extra money for extra frames" when in actuality you need to buy a whole-ass new console for extra frames, and unlike other generations and consoles, that is a large part of their strategy with Switch 2. Buying a console for "upgrades" instead of launching with a proper library of new games nobody's already been playing for 5 years already.
>>730873657>Am I understanding this right?Obviously not because multiple anons have already used the scientific method to prove he cannot possibly fly unless he's something other than human which of course would require proof from his end to show that he isn't human and without him providing that it makes it obvious that he's just an intellectually inferior human.
>>730873791>which is why their stock is tanking so hardTheir stocks are actually doing pretty well compared to Sony and MS right now.
>>730873838>won't cite evidence he can fly to support his fantastical claim>expects others to bend over backwards for things that are easily-sourced public information
>>730873657Pretty much right, yeah. Good job anon, you understood the point!>>730873932Literally nobody has used the scientific method to prove a negative ITT, because it is impossible, by scientific definition.Understand?Lack of evidence can not be evidence, etc. Basic logical fallacy stuff.
>>730873924>when in actuality you need to buy a whole-ass new console for extra framesYou yourself said this >>730872992>because you're not talking about playing the game anymore like we were originallyMeaning buying a new console is irrelevant.You can't have it both ways anon.
>>730873657He used flying because he's bad at picking examples. Other things could have actually illustrated his point but he picked something self-defeating from the start.
>>730874014Is that what you want? Okay, ill do it.But only after you prove that negative claims can be proven true with the scientific method (and post your source for your definition).Go ahead. I'm happy to play along, but i did ask my question first, so its only fair you answer it before we move on.Deal?
>>730874157>self defeatingLiterally nobody ITT can defeat me lolIts an unloseable position. Its why im defending it so easily.
>>730874065I'm talking about wanting better frames out of a specific game and the way to do that. For Wilds you get some DLC, for Nintendo you buy a new console and pay for an upgrade of the game. If you say you'd rather but a PC for reasons outside the game then you are buying a PC for general PC reasons. I'm saying that if you are someone who just wants better performance on the specific game they're playing then it's more palatable to pat a fraction to buy DLC instead of buying a new console with almost no new games just for better performance.
>>730874209>"I'm happy to play along"Then cite your evidence of being able to fly, or outright admit to having no evidence for it, if you're asking for oxford sources to "make sure we're all on the same page here"
>>730856572What are you? Poorfags? You can't afford FPS?Just buy the fucking dlc, poorfag.
>>730874372>Then cite your evidence of being able to flyI already told you, after you answer my question.We can't move on until you do this>>730874209
why has no nigger in this thread posted the video proof? yes its fucking real https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=uf5cICpDXX0
>>730874441https://www.oed.com/?tl=trueNow please cite your evidence of being able to fly or admit you have none you can provide. Just so we're all on the same page here and we can properly argue about the topic you want to argue about. We can't really have an argument if you're withholding information, can we? If you can't cite your evidence then I'll have to accept victory here because you are unwilling or unable to be honest with us here about the information you have.
>>730865220West in relation to Japan. In relation to Europe, everything east of the iron curtain is considered "Eastern".
>>730874307>I'm talking about wanting better frames out of a specific game and the way to do thatOne method being a method you ruled as irrelevant, buying a new system.
>>730874623You havent linked me the page yet.And you haven't answerd all my questions in this post yet.>>730874209What are you afraid of? I thought you wanted me to answer you.But like we agreed, you have to answer MY questions first, because I asked them first, just like in a real debate, like adults would have.Answer my questions fully, please.Or you lose.
>>730874590CAPCOM SUE HIM
>>730874063>Literally nobody has used the scientific method to prove a negative ITT, because it is impossible, by scientific definition.What do you think the scientific method is anon, tell everyone here.
>>730874704I didn't rule buying a system as irrelevant, I said that would be the case if you're just buying a PC for general PC use here >>730872838If I'm misunderstanding your post and you're outright just saying you'd rather buy the PC equivalent of a new console(2--3x the cost of a switch 2 anyway) for improved frames then that's fine. The way you phrased it it sounded like you would just want to get a new PC generally.
>>730874781Verifiable data, through repetition.If you can't repeat it, science says it doesnt exist. Its just one of the known fallacies of the method. It gets very accurate data, but its not flawless.This is one such flaw.
>>730874751>But like we agreed, you have to answer MY questions first,Never agreed to this. That website has the definitions if you type in the word. I won't click on the link for you either. I linked you to the site where just typing the word gives you the citation, your turn to pony up with your evidence you can fly or your admission that you have no evidence. Then we can continue. If you want to concede to this and the argument as a whole then be my guest.Your turn.
>>730874997>Never agreed to thisIf you're refusing to participate in the discussion, then you lose.I accept your concession.
>>730875051I did, I gave you my citation. Like I said, it's your turn to provide evidence or admit you have none. I just want to make sure we're both on the same page here. I'd love to continue arguing with you, but you don't seem to want to provide this while asking that people manually cite oxford dictionary definitions. Sounds cowardly desu but you don't have to keep going if you realized you're cornered.
>>730875125See>>730875051
>>730875171You say you want all of us to be on the same page so we can argue, so why can't you provide your evidence for being able to fly or the admission that you have none? That isn't the end of the argument, obviously. We can continue this argument but you yourself said you want everyone to be on the same page so I just thought that would be part of getting to that point. Was that a lie?
>>730875498Because you havent answered all of my questions yet. Thus, your refusal to participate led to your loss.Understand, ESL?
>>730857605Japan has never had to code for PC before in any real fashion. They always had their own engines that they were familiar with, like the MSX, which used BASIC. Once they had to move to C, things fell apart and they just gave up on PCs because there was no market for it. PC was for work, not for games. It is only recent years that Japanese devs have realized they were missing a huge market by snubbing PC, but they don't have anyone that has ever programmed for PC gaming and no one knows how to optimism across so many different hardware configs. The real problem though is that Japan loves to have a tight leash on what you are and aren't allowed to do with the game, so they have so many checks the games have to jump through and they will even go as far as putting Russian Malware in it to stop you from pirating.
>>730876130I answered a question, and I'd like you to do the same. This is a dialogue, aspie. You wanted a place for citations from oxford and you got them. Now I want your proof of your ability to fly or your admission that you have none, then I'll answer something else of yours.Get it? Provide the proof, admit you have none, or concede.
>>730876543>I answered a question, and I'd like you to do the sameI will, when you answer all my questions. Since I did ask them first.Until you do this, you lose.
>>730874957>Verifiable data, through repetition.So like the data gathered from analysing human anatomy to determine humans cannot produce thrust, have bones that are too dense and have no appendages or organs to sustain flight?Because that's verifiable data, the only thing we can't confirm is that you are human and that's on you to verify which you refuse to acknowledge.From that one can safely say that you're a human who cannot fly.
>>730874590This doesn’t prove anything be could be throttling his machine
>>730876687>refusing to answer anything>thinks that stalling will help himConcession accepted, aspie. Better luck next time.
>>730876843>STILL can't demonstrate negative claims can be proven true with the scientific method.Cute
>>730856859Someone made a patch to fix SF5's unplayable netcode and all that happened was the site hosting the patch got a DMCA.
>>730877186Are you leaving? If you leave the debate before its over, you lose.Thanks for confirming you couldn't prove your own claims to be true.I win. You lose, by your own admission.
>>730877260So you are saying that the scientify method isn't the scientific method.
>>730877534Where did I say that, ESL?Quote the exact post where you think this happened.
>>730877597Right here >>730877260Where you deny verifiable data that came about as a result of analysing human bodies, remains etc. proving humans lack the bodies for flight.In denying that a negative can be proven with the scientific method you're saying that the scientific method used across the planet is not in fact the scientific method you go by.
>>730877807>Where you deny verifiable data that came about as a result of analysing human bodiesI literally didnt say that lol.I just said you havent demonstrated that you can prove a negative with the scientific method, and you still haven't. Why does this statement upset you so much?
>>730877897>literally didnt say that lolAgain, right here. >>730877260>>STILL can't demonstrate negative claims can be proven true with the scientific method.The negative claim was proven true with the scientific method and this is you denying it. This is the evidence of you doing so. Right here and completely undeniable.
>>73086784090% of "fax machines" are just printers with a fax option. You can email to fax machines now.
>>730877963>The negative claim was proven true with the scientific methodWhere? Quote the exact demonstration.
>>730856572This is actually not a bad idea desuI know a paid optimisation dlc would get them a lot of hate but this is the future
>>730878020See >>730876843This verified data.What exactly is YOUR scientific method though anon? Because it doesn't seem like it's based on any kind of evidence or even logic.
>>730878227>links to a claim that demonstrates literally nothing to be true *yawn*Boring...
>>730878227Shitting into his hands, smearing it on the wall and then screaming until people leave where he will claim he won I assume.
>>730878303>STILL can't demonstrate the scientific method proving a negative.It's cute how much this upsets you
>>730878298I'll take that as a consession, if you're getting bored of being wrong that's an improvement over believing that data gathered over years of human history is wrong.
>>730878394>I'll take that as a consessionYou'd be mistaken.I'm still winning.
>>730878490There's nothing to "win", this isn't a competition. How sad is your life that pretending to win an Internet argument is the closest thing to victory that you can manage?
>>730878570If there's "nothing to win", why did you pretend to accept my concession?You wrre very quick to try and declare yourself thr winner just 1 post ago, for someone who believes>"t-t-there is no w-w-winning..."You're so upset it's hilarious. Please, keep replying! This is great fun!
>>730878717>why did you pretend to accept my concession?Do you not know what consession is?Why am I even asking, you've probably only ever seen the word used here.
>>730873287I'm not that anon, dumbass. I explained to you what the fuck was happening because you can't fucking read.
>>730865136Retard here, what are transparency passes? Tried googling but only got political stuff about the epstein files and stop killing games.
>>730878847>Do you not know what consession is?ESL grammar.
>Half the thread is a couple of faggots defending their izzat
>>730878717NTA but a conceding doesn't necessarily mean winning or losing. In the context of this conversation it would mean you accept that you're wrong as a result of having no more arguments.
>>730878972>izzatIn English?
>>730879004>In the context of this conversation it would mean you accept that you're wrongIf your argument is wrong in tbus context you lose the argument.So no, I'm not conceding a single point.
>>730866051I once saw a doujin where a housewife adopted some hellspawn that looked like those things in the video and then cucked her son with it
>>730879079Izzat (ইজ্জত / عزت) is a culturally significant concept, primarily in South Asia (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh), meaning honor, dignity, and social reputation, deeply tied to self-worth, family honor, and societal standing, often requiring strict adherence to reciprocal duties and a strong sense of shame or vengeance if violated, while also being the title of several films and a term for power or glory in Arabic/Islamic contexts
>>730879103Then argue, what's the scientific method you want. Data clearly doesn't matter to you so explain what you actually want otherwise you concede since you're the reason the conversation can't progress.
>>730879792I'll answer you when you answer my questions, like I already stated.Until all of my previous questions are answered, you may not ask a new one.Understand, ESL?I am not conceding a single point. You have to demonstrate why I'm wrong, or you lose.
>>730869781What. So are you mad at sony for making a ps5 and soon the ps6?
>>730879965So you concede by default. Multiple people have answered you with appropriate examples and verifiable data, but you're refusing to acknowledge them.That's how it works, if you refuse to continue or elaborate on what you want then you "lose".
>>730857605They are using google translate to code in English bro
>>730857218this is the entire premise of the Nintendo Switch 2
>>730857218>pay more for more framesThats literally Switch 2 upgrade version of Switch 1 games.
>>730881230I do not concede a single point, you just really *really* wish I would, because you can't win otherwise.:3
>>730882635Except the switch 1 couldn't run the upgraded versions.
>>730882410>>730882635Aren't the majority of those free anyway with the paid ones coming with new features and shit? It's not exactly the same as cosmetic dlc wing tied to framerate.
>>730857218That's been going on for decades now, not even just Nintendo.Pretty much any time a game releases on the cusp of a new generation, you'll have a last gen version and a new gen version, in which the (slightly) more expensive new gen version will undoubtedly have better performance and visual upgrades.
>>730858047Believing things without source is a white thing actually.
>>730883061You can't win by sticking to the original discussion.You're so low IQ that all you do is reducing the discussion into something you can easily manipulate and trick anons into wasting their times, while moving the goalpost each time.If you were as smart as you claim, you would've sticked to the original claim that said "if someone analyzed the game code and found nothing it would be proof enough that there was no check in olace to drop FPS due to missing DLCs" but no, you HAD to bullshit your way with the "can't prove a negative" argument because you KNOW you are wrong and needed to divert the argument elsewhere.So congratulations, you made at least 3 different anons waste their time. I hope your life is better than what I imagine it to be but honestly I don't think you do, since you're so focused on this useless drivels.https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~dnp/frege/is-it-really-impossible-to-prove-a-negative.htmlHere's a hard proof that negatives can be proven, all with logic symbols. You can read them, since you're so smart, right?Now go back to the initial claim about the game or take the L already and move on.
>>730883451All of them are paid as far as I can tell. The only one that has any sort of substantial new content are Mario Party and Kirby.Both Zeldas are just performance updates with the ability to read lore audio logs on your phone.Pokemon is just a pure performance update.Metroid is just performance + mouse controls.
>>730884121>All of them are paid as far as I can tell.You haven't even listed them all.Clubhouse is freeTTYD is freeArmsCaptain ToadOdysseyPokemon SVSplatoon 3Echoes of wisdomLink's Awakening3D WorldAll of them have free switch 2 updates.
>>730884587I think NSMB U got one as well.
>>730860029>You discover that you could do things much more efficiently if you switched to method Y or used a different tool or whatever. You tell this to your superior and he dismisses you, cause in his eyes you're his lesser, so what do you know?This is modern US business culture, too.
>>730865284Russia took Crimea after a CIA led coup ousted the democratically elected government of Ukraine.
>>730883736>Here's a hard proof that negatives can be provenWhich part specifically proves me wrong? Quote the exact part, thanks.
>read thread>Capcom defense force still insisting the guy who solved previous Capcom fuckups is somehow lying about the DLC check function eating framesCan it be next month already so I can bust my nut in this dude's face? Still not buying Wilds thoughever.
>>730885558Maybe but i've learned in this thread that some humans can fly.
>>730857218Anon, they literally did with Switch 2 upgrades that they sell them 20 bucks each
Hello God here. I have wiped out India in the main timeline in response to this thread. If India still exists for you it’s because you’re spiritually IndianYou can’t prove I’m not God
>>730886647The majority are free though and the only one that doesn't come with new content or features is pokemon ZA.
>>730886701Our existence is everything we perceive, stupid.
>>730869310World had a similar problem to this one in its early patches, where it did a looping check on shit in unloaded areas.
>>730857331it isn't just on that one guy, the PR and unit test framework failed them too.in all likelihood the check is only supposed to occur once at launch and then record its results. that second part is probably still happening.
>>730884587I was assuming this is talking about "Nintendo Switch 2 versions", which as far as I can tell are explicitly.paid products.The Switch 1 games that got updates to run better on Switch 2 were something I knew existed, but I didn't count them in the conversation of since they don't have an upgrade pack of any sort listed on the eShop.
>>730856572>It is NOT intentionalNobody remember World?>ohh AyEmDee make Threadrippa? 64 threadu hanada-san>codes it to use 64 threads at all timesThey didn't even include LoD models in Wilds.Same company just rendered everything in a huge radius in Dragon's Dogma 2.This is all intentional simply due to japanese PC coding incompetence.
>>730887314World doesn't use RE, it uses MT.Thats the point he was trying to make, a engine is only as good as the people working in it and the new guys on World and Wilds are shit.
>>730884121not really. most of them receive free upgrades to resolution and fps
>>730861080This comic is blatantly untrue. Monster hunter fans had a fucking fit when games like toukiden & god eater came out because it threatened their precious "hardcore game" at a time when monhun was not innovating at all. The funny part was that people in Japan treated monster hunter like a casual coop game while westerners treated it like some niche game only for people who want a true challenge.
>>730887675They're talking about switch 2 upgrades for switch 1 games so that would include the free ones.
>>730888180Anon, you're talking about people who haven't stopped seething about pokemon for over a decade now.
>no bro look i can't release the mod that fixes it >but bro trust me, it's real>check the video>slav(e)runessuure...
>>730885517>goalpost moving againThe site starts with the negative claim>¬∀x (Bird(x) CanFly(x))which translated in a language a low IQ like you can understand means "it's not the case all birds can fly".Then the negative is rewritten using standard logic equivalence in>∃x (Bird(x) ∧ ¬CanFly(x))which means "It exists a bird that can't fly"Then just goes to show a photo of an emu, a bird which can't fly.The text proves it is possible to prove a negative, thus rendering your retarded claim void.I don't even need you to concede.We both know you're wrong.You just won't accept it because your ego stops you from perceiving mistakes in your reasoning.I'm done arguing.
>>730856572So where's the mod?
>>730888504sorry he can't show it to you, but will show it to the same retards who "benchmark" the game by watching the intro
>>730856572And they'll get away with it
>>730878875this is 100% the totk ui.>parts already sort by utility for arrows/throwing(most used), power (for fusions), and building (zonai)>people losing their minds saying that it should actually be a 4x12 grid organized by custom made parameters responding to their psychic resonance, because its currently "unusable">one spastic uinigger on youtube makes a half hour video "proving" he can fix it>its the same thing
>>730888316>The text proves it is possible to prove a negativeIt literally doesn't.I think you're just parroting someone else's words and praying they are correct without understanding them.
>>730857218Inb4 patent whoring
Just buy all the fucking DLC.
>>730892518I'd rather not buy a shitty game.
>>730859060Wait, didn't Bamco own the loading minigame patent thing?
>>730893058Patent has run out. Everyone can do it now.
>>730892518Stop being poor!!!
>>730893154>Everyone can do it now.Bamco has fallen
>>730857759Quality assurance (QA) and game coding are two completely different tasks, Kumar.
>>730857605>why can't japs code? it's been decades and they're just getting worse...Some coders got Super Mario 64, which runs at 30 FPS, to actually run at 60 FPS on original hardware. This might be because these coders have access to modern debugging and coding software, but regardless, there is often still a ton of room for improvement.
>>730879107Oh yeah, purugameko or purugame. Great artist.
>>730856572surely...
