>RAM Shortage will last until 2031I'm not feeling so good, lads.
>>730856725YOU WILL HAVE NOTHING AND YOUL WILL BE HAPPY
these companies won't even exist by 2027, microsoft is murdering itself in realtime
Doesn't affect my machine.
But remember, AI pisses off people on social media sites I don't interact with, or even use. That's worth making my life worse.
RAM cartel that gets hit with antitrust fines every 5 years says they won't increase productionwow I'm shockedguess they need another round of anti-trust finesIt's becoming a reliable income source now
>>730856771Post it one more time for good measure
>upper range of hardware locked in for 5 yearsWhy is anyone complaining? This is kino, exactly what computer hardware should be.Yearly incremental hardware is slop.
>>730856818sure
>>730856827People not being able to upgrade because of RAM prices means they won't be buying other PC parts, though. So basically, everyone selling PC parts will go under and there's no guarantee PC building will be possible after 5 years of this.
I'm already considering changing hobbies, crocheting seems like satisfying grind.
>>730856905wait fags shouldn't have been greedy. Plus the pc parts market needed a crunch anyway. It's gotten way too normalfag.Honestly the silver lining is de-normalfagging this hobby.
>>730856807>>730856827>hardware breaks because it's designed to>can't buy new hardwareenjoy your cloud
>>730856905Sounds like a perfect reason to move everyone to cloud computer. Ha. What's that phrase? You'll own nothing, and?...
should've voted better
We won AIbros! The tech industry is completely raped!
>>730856725From shitty Korean fabs, who cares CXMT is coming and will blow away the cartel.
>>730856808this but unironicallyall of you faggots who got the jab, jerk off to futa, push lgbt, cheer for govts and corpos, are furious about aithis alone is worth supporting it
My snes dreamcast and all the rest are deeply appalled about this development
I thought that the more something was in demand, the cheaper it is?Was it all a lie?
>>730856725sounds like multiple industries are going to crater, can these parts manufacturers really go on without the consumer side? what about the people who just move on and don't engage with tech anymore? i don't think they thought this through sure corporations will continue to cycle money through each other but if the consumer just abandons the entire tech sector then what? if people can't buy parts they aren't going to engage with software why bother? they need someone to sell products to, you can't just turn away from the consumer like this without consequences and the people AREN'T adopting a.i tech.
Just as I predicted, I'm like a fucking prophet atp
It's all worth it if line goes up.We do benefit from line going up, right?
>>730856725>Upgraded 7800X3D + 4080S in 2024Good for another 10 years.The best thing about it? These next 10 years are going to be total dog shit in terms of upgrades. Minuscule minor improvements because these companies don't give a shit about gamers, only data centers.RTX 6090 will be delayed, more expensive, out of stock quicker, and probably only like 5% performance increase compared to 5090.
>>730856725what part is gonna go up in price next?
>>730857072>>730857147Are you getting paid to post like this or something?
>>730857073Buddy these companies don't even have a solid idea on how AI can even make money for them. It's mostly speculation. But since tech bros are stupid niggers they pour billions into speculation and let everyone else suffer. Everything AI is doing is hurting consumers even at this dare they don't understand they need consumers to make the money back.
>>730856790>implying the fed won't bail them out with your tax shekelslol.lmao even.
>>730857072you are thinking of supplysupply means cheaper product due to abundance, demand increases price because people are eager to buy itin theory the price is determined by the intersection of these two factors, but when a monopoly or colluding companies conspire to gouge prices or artificially limit supply then the system falls apart
>>730857073The point is that all of the computing will be delegated to a third party, it's like using your computer while someone is watching over you constantly, where your each move has to be verified, you wouldn't even need complex hardware for it.
>>730857180Weird that you say this when every game company is using AI wherever possible these days.
>>730856950It could kill any serious gaming on PC altogether, both hardware and software. If you're fine playing old games and/or modding on office-grade computers in long-term future, this doesn't affect you, otherwise consoles and smartphones win this round.
>>730856725Who fucking cares anymore.WW3 happens by next year, maybe even in this one since we are at a speedrun pace.
>>730857245Ahh I see, thanks anon
>>730856725AI is more important
>>730856725You can't fool me shillbot
>>730856725Is RAM made out of some rare space crystal. Why can't these niggers make more.
look, it was either this or let the leftists win
>>730856725>implying any of us will still be alive in 2030
You've had 18 years to buy the normal 32GB amount. The idea you decided you suddenly need it now does not seem genuine.
>>730857183that's when the real turbo great depression fun begins
>>730856725I have 500+ games in my backlog, half that can run on my old Voodoo 3500 PC, so who cares
>>730857007If you pulled Trump's dick out of your mouth for 19 seconds and looked up you'll see he's sucking every corporations dick like he's the JAV star in a bukkake scene
>>730857290Actually every microchip has to be made using a special crucible made from sand that's only mined in one american town it is best not to discuss how fragile the entire situation is.
Superintelligence is here
>>730856725I only upgrade my pc once every 10 years so..
A sacrifice, so God can have his wife.
>>730857368How's like in Somali going for you anon?
>>730857248a 3rd party with 0 adoption, you really think people are going to buy into cloud computing you are a fucking retard and i have a bridge to sell you.
>>730856725Do RAM sticks die? mine are from 2020
>>730857321It's part of why I think these threads are forced. There's no real need to make a new PC now for most people, unlike during covid.
>>730857252And every company is being met with harsh push back. Nobody except the ceos like AI the average person doesn't understand it and doesn't want it.
>>730857431GPUs and CPUs usually dies before RAM.
>>730857371>obese ameriburger immediately pulls out his orange man derangement syndromeyou mongrel golem can't even get your insults right. sam altman is the one causing this price hike, and he's gay too. so that would have made your pathetic attempt at a clapback at least slightly more accuratego worship more niggers. you are right to, for every american, whether libcuck or magatard, is indeed inferior
>>7308567252031? AI is still on it s early years, it can easily generate far more demand as it devs and gets more use and profitgames will just have to adapt to either better optimization or less ppl to sell
everyone feared that AI would be coming for their jobs but it came for our pcs instead
>>730857431they will at some point but they normally last around 15 years from my experience
Good. Games were requiring more and more vram while providing the same graphics, at least now my 4060 will last much longer
>>730857463no, i will use the second hand market for all my needs going forward, and if i can't get what i want from the secondhand market im moving my time into more productive hobbies that won't involve the tech sector, fuck this administration, and fuck sam altman.
>>730857431Don't fuck with the voltage and that RAM will out live you
>>730857258>otherwise consoles and smartphones win this round.they're affected too.samsung mobile division can't even get RAM
>>730857073They won't due to CXMT.Becuase of the Korean's fuckery and Micron exiting the consumer market, they won't get any injunctions against selling in the west.Memory cartel signed their own stupid death warrant.
>>730857519>samsung mobile division can't even get RAMEven funnier : Samsung's hardware division refuses to sell RAM to Samsung's mobile division.
>>730857431it's one of the most stable components in any build, but they aren't immune. usually if you get a bad stick it's straight from the factory, not due to degredation over time
That's crazy, anyways
>>730857478Ok you're using Google translate so you're clearly a pajeet, your worth is 0 and nothing you type has any value. Go for a swim in the Ganges and enjoy some nice chat made with feces covered hands
>>730857290Increasing production requires investment just so you could sell more product cheaper. I think manufacturers know this is a short-lived situation that's not worth overextending. Might as well make a profit before everything goes to shit.
tfw I fell for the single rank 48 GB meme instead of capacitymaxxing
>>730857519I think they'll be fine. They can always invent some gimmick peripheral to make a quick buck out of inferior hardware.
>>730857463Zuck looks like one of those analogue horror monsters lol
>>730856725I have a question.As a tech illiterate moron what does this mean for DDR6? I see that there was 6 year gap between ddr4 and ddr5, and 7 years between 3 and 4, so does this mean RAM and products that need it are won't be able to move on to the next fast/stronger iteration?
>>730856725>I'm not feeling so goodyeah me too i m going to be 40 in 2030
>>730857734we are witnessing the death of hardware and software companies in real time because of a scam led by sam altman.
Dont careGot a prebuilt during black friday for cheap, 5060ti 16gb, and 32gb of cl32 6400 ram for 900 dollerydoos
>>730857463THEY LOST BIGLY AFTER TRUMP, COPE
>>730857734Depends on how things play out.If CXMT dominates D4/D5 market, then Samsung and Hynix will push D6 sooner, since CXMT mostly steals all their IP.If they get fucked with injunctions in the west, then D6 will probably be another decade.
>>730857764Me too man, fuck.
>>730857421U will once CPU and GPU prices go up ten fold and your only choice is whatever they have to sell you retard
>>730856725i bought my current pc like 6 years ago for like 2k dollarydoos, im just going to buy a steam machine and that'll last me until at least 2032i've literally never opened it to clean it and all i've done was put in an extra hdd and i LITERALLY vape/smoke into it all day every daywtf are you guys doing with your pcs
>>730857290Its a multifaceted problem.Demand vastly exceeds supply at the moment and DRAM production requires highly specialized/expensive fabs (not as advanced as the cutting edge used in the latest CPUs/GPUs, but only a generation or two behind) that take years to bring online and start production. They can't just throw a switch and start making more.Following that first point... DRAM manufacturers are hesitant to expand production, despite that increased demand. Like I said, its expensive, AI demand is clearly a bubble, and the future is murky at best. They don't want to spend billions of dollars on new fabs that will take years to bring online if there is a decent possibility that a year or two from now AI demand fizzles... They will have not only wasted all that capital, but also create a supply glut that drives prices into the ground and could further hurt them for years after.So DRAM manufacturers are playing things incredibly conservatively and are happy to just kick back and print money selling the capacity they already have for a several hundred percent mark up.
>>730857831no, at that point and im already 80% their, is to move my time into another hobby all together separated from the tech side fully, its already happening im distancing myself from all of this im not investing my time OR my money into any of this, if i can't get a reasonably priced pc, im not going cloud, im not overspending, im not going to beg and pelad, im just going to move on with my life and never come back, im not investing in a.i, im not adopting its tech, im abandoning all of this completely.
>>730857463>The CHIPS and Science Act is a U.S. federal statute enacted by the 117th United States Congress and signed into law by President Joe Biden on August 9, 2022
I bought 32 gigs of ram at the start of 2025 and it's a meme, I only used more than 16 when fucking around with local ai generation
>>730857490No, they're coming for your PCs so they can train better AI to come for your job. You will not have fun games and entertainment, and soon, you will be unemployed.
>>730856725There's no real shortage. They're facilitating an artificial shortage to ruin the consumer market, and by 2030 there will be politics in place so that you aren't legally allowed to own a computer above a certain wattage anymore under environmentalist politics. That's why they give people false hope saying it's after 2030 that RAM will return, because what it means is, by then you're technically not allowed to build computers anymore, so the market is ceased. Instead you get government-lent tablets and monitors and have to use Datacenters to use a computer or play games.Larry Fink, the billionaires and politicians are to blame for this.
>>730857183They won't this time. Banks already refused to accept data center GPUs and RAMs as collateral for loans. Thats why everyone is predicting that its going to be another dotcom-tier crash but not 2008 level crash because banks are not involved.
>>730857831there are so many cpus and gpus in the world that everyone here will be dead before that could even be remotely possible
>>730857884Cope
>>730857884trump is going to subsidize the a.i industry with openai completely he's basically already given guarantees to altman that the entire business model will be funded by the taxpayer.
>>730857854Yeah I mean that's just the smartest business decision to make on their part. We could really use another Luigi right about now.
>>730857814https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/12/eliminating-state-law-obstruction-of-national-artificial-intelligence-policy/erm
>>730857883Thats the problem, u will either go back to the stone age with ur local computer or rely on computing done by corpos, thats what they want at least, the computer is an invaluable part to life for many, thry just want to wedge themselves between that
>>730856725>he doesn't already have ramlol
>>730857951very true thats also why theres really high quality grok imagine videos on youtube getting shadowbanned
>>730857884>an act designed to get plants running in the US to stop our dependence on other countries >meanwhile Trump >>730857938
>>730857884you realize semiconductors are used for shit other than AI right? That act is literally the only reason the US hasn't lost to china in production of them yet.
>>730856725>AI market crashes >data centers use the inevitable government bailout money to retrofit their compute power into a HaaSI'm tired
>>730856725No it is over for good.
>>730858061Well at least when AI crashes the used RAM won't be royal fucked like mining GPUs
>>730857921But how many of those are high-end? It's a limited supply after all and Nvidia/Intel/AMD are notorious for doing the scalping/artificial scarcity, most of those CPUs/GPUs are in junk yards or sitting on shelves collecting dust as prices keep going up
Why does your game need more than 16 GB of RAM anyway?
>shill thread aimed at americans>5AM on a thursday kek what are they paying these people?
I'll be 40 in 2031.I can't deal with these fucking time frames anymore man.Games already take a fucking decade to make and now I can measure the rest of my life in "GTAs released" and "relaxed hardware prices".Time to get out of nerd hobbies and just watch birds or some shit.
>>730856725If I was a RAM manufacturer, I'd insist there is a huge, long lasting crisis, and that people should FOMO buy memory right now, at peak prices.Consider that, before reposting slop.
>>730856725>upgrade every 5 or 6 years >just finished upgrading in summer 2025 before this shit went down Any other precognitive anons out there?
>>730857990i don't care anymore, i deleted my socials, i don't use video hosting sites for anything other than music, i don't comment anywhere else but here. my game time has been significantly reduced, when i buy games its 10+ year old games, and i have a single gacha game that i play daily that doesn't require a high end system to play. im out of this game now completely, i don't care what happens to any of it. like i said im fine with my setup i have here and when it dies im going to buy the same exact one again on a secondhand market. if i can't get one at a decent price my time is going to the gym and books, i've intentionally left my love for reading undisturbed for years and years because i suspected that something like this would come and i would need a fresh hobby that i haven't touched in a long time, so i've intentionally gone out of my way to avoid reading books, so when it all goes tits up i have multiple lifetimes of reading material to catch up on and i love to read.
>upgraded because oblivion remastered wouldn't work>didn't even play it anywaythanks todd
>>730857951>>730857938He is doing it through the already allocated money from the Chips and Dips legislation passed by Biden and building off itDont pretend like this is a right wing thing, it was started by the left and all those silicon faggots were hardcore left ten seconds before trump was inaugurated and then they sleezed their way to the pork barrel
>>730856725Zoomers will be fine. It only takes a cheap PC or a phone to watch vidya streamers.
>>730858250you're wasting your time arguing with literal DNC shills you idiot. who do you think posts this kind of thread?
>>730858184I was originally going to wait for Intel's next showing(300 series) to upgrade my 12700k build that was using ddr4 ram. Out of nowhere got an itch to throw some money around and upgrade everything this last August.
>>730858250this is 100% trumps brainchild he loves fucking over the people and when he saw that he could screw people who love pc's and technology he obviously took the bait, he knows they can't afford 500 billion to a.i that no one likes, he's going it because he's a vindictive prick that hates the people.
>>730858207Hey, I'm happy for you if you are happy. It's just a shame really, that is all. Best of luck to you.
>>730858120it's not convencional RAM, so unless you are willing to resolder individual DRAM chips into a proper board there's nothing we can do
>>730858250>>730858291You shouldn't start samefagging after getting blown the fuck out, you make it too obviousDon't even try to post a screenshot now because we all know how to inspect element
>>730858363>because i said i love books, trump is going to go on a crusade to burn all physical books in the united statesim already preparing for it so don't bother trying to blindside me.
>>730857431Nearly every other part will go first. Ram upgrades occurred because of performance needs not wear and tear.Example I have 2 gigs of DDR2 Ram from 2007, they still function, but very few games after 2015 will run well (if at all) with such low ram. That's been most of the PC bullshit of the last ten years has been upgrading for upgrading sake and this crisis might take us back to the early 00s where actual demand of the program was what caused tech improvements.
>>730858250these techbros aren't liberals or conservatives or anything resembling a democratic political affiliation. They are technocrats and they want an AI surveillance state that will replace human labour with robots. They think anyone that isn't a billionaire is vermin that should starve to death as soon as their labor is valueless. Also I'm not le both sidesing here I think conservatives are subhuman but anyone that thinks people like Elon Musk or Peter Theil are on anyone's side are fucking retarded.
>>730858369>>730858192Well shit part of me figured this would be the case that it wasnt gonna be the kind of sticks home pcs use. Just trying to have a grain of hope but clearly that's a mistake
>>730858302I get that you're always waiting for the next thing because it's so easy to look at your rig and go "eh I get by with it" but sometimes you're just like I got the cash the parts are available fuck it. So glad I said fuck it this time
>>730857463You killed my hobby, I voted to kill you. I'm very much getting what I voted for.
>>730856725waitfags btfo
>>730857431Yes but it's low. I had 4x8gb DDR3 in my old PC for 12 years and only one stick ever died and that was about 10 years in.In that time I went through 2 PSU's, 2 GPU's and 1 motherboard.
>>730858545I'm still alive thoughbeit sounds like you just hurt your country for no reason
>>730858363>>730858384im gonna go full boomer and just read the paper and drink coffee in my study, no tech, no bothersome politics, just me, a glass of whiskey, and a nice book. fuck all of you technocrat assholes who just want to subjugate the people and extract as much wealth from them as possible, i am not going along with any of this, i'll start to carve wooden figurines or some shit, or i'll start making pottery. i'll move my mind to another place i don't fucking need any of you people bringing me down everyday like this, society is going to shit and no ones doing anything to stop it so im just throwing in the towel and moving on with my life.
>>730858291>who do you think posts this kind of threadIt definitely feels like shills of some kind. They always come with leftwing memes and pictures and try to act like that cunt Kamala never would have supported american tech companies.
>>730858442>anyone that thinks people like Elon Musk or Peter Theil are on anyone's side are fucking retardedPretty muchThese tech people will "side" with whatever group or nation will throw money at their projects and faggy ideas of what the world should look like
>>730857519They also cut the ram of the upcoming S26 by 4gb aside from the ultra.
So thirdies, immigrants and poor lefty OWS faggots and trannies wont be able to afford computersWhy am I supposed to be upset again?
>>730857183There will be bailouts but I think it will be controlled implosion bailouts, make sure they die just slow enough people don't really get super angry about how much of their tax money went into ai investment
>>730858470I'm surprised the government hasn't stopped e-waste recycling centers from selling shit to consumers, probably will happen after the crash so they can make sure we can't own hardware. HaaS is a holy grail for their surveillance state.
>>730858545You were activated like a CIA sleeper cell lmao
>>730856725i have 32GB of ddr4 and im perfectly ok with it.i just want to upgrade the cpu without the mobo and rambring back the 5800x3d FFS
>>730858610Not for long with feds actually shooting domestic terrorists now.
>>730857938I'm pretty sure those came from private investors
>>730858708I don't think there is going to be any 'crash', it's not like everyone has a chip plant at their disposal, you are either in or out, imagine how 'locked-down' new 'computers' (that have to have their every move passed trough a datacenter) are going to be, a nightmare on every front
>>730858949the people abandoning tech is going to be great for society, i genuinely hope this authoritarian regime under trump gets worse so people just drop the tech completely.
>>730858949>>730859092i won't be satisfied until all of you affiliated with this go completely broke, you've already destroyed every ounce of goodwill people had towards tech so honestly their isn't anything worth saving anyway, it sucks to see games and other cool tech communities get gutted because of this but its a casualty that we need to suffer so things change.
>>730857463You gave 0 fucks when the same people circlejerked to deplatform your political opposition when Trump was out.
>>730858726Should have got a husband or a real job, Zoe
>>730857007lmaobased retard
I have a 4090 rig but I'm not kidding myself, chances are my computer will have problems by then The solution is simple : back to simple, quality and comfy gamingI'll get myself an Ayn Thor alongside my Vita, Switch and 3DS that are all still working perfectly Then I'll probably get a 'eck on top of that. Fuck modern PC gaming, having a strong computer allows you to enjoy like 3% of all the good games, you still have 97% to play and all the best ones are in there
>>730856725>2031By then we'll have exhausted the raw materials that are available to mine. That's when the real shortages start
>>730857915>banks won't accept the world's fastest deprecating asset this site of ripe tomatoes as collateral, therefore the state won't [...]uhuh
>>730859494keep in mind you can also find joy in getting games running on a lower system, i genuinely find it enjoyable to tinker with settings and get a decent game running on my rig that has restricted hardware, and lets also not count out the plethora of mod communities that add a ton of value to older games alongside the growing indie industry and yes even mobile game studios have stepped up their production quality for games that have almost no requirements at all, so you won't be able to run native 4k with ray tracing on the hottest new thing, you have decades of classics with mods that change everything that would take lifetimes to complete all of its not as doom and gloom as it sounds, plus this forces current pc devs to optimize and reduce the barrier to entry for their games or go bankrupt no more over the top spectacles we need genuinely good products that can run on cheaper machines now.
>>730857274Been thinking WW3 was gonna happen next year since 2015
>>730858654It's pretty fucking wild how badly Musk be the "le reddit superhero, he is real life Tony Stark!!!!" has been memory holed.
>>730856790Yeah look at all those corporations dropping active directory, teams and office 365.
>>730856725Good news, we dont have to buy overpriced goytech anymore. now tech companies have to optimize their games and programs
I wonder how this will affect the next line of gaming consoles? How will Sony and Microsoft launch the new Playstation and Xbox? I figured we'd be getting the new consoles sometime in 2027. I figured we'd get leaks/rumors about them sometime in late 2026.
>>730860142The world doesn't revolve around unoptimised AAA goyslop anon.
>>730860142>now tech companies have to optimize their games and programs
>>730860214Screws them as badly as it screws everyone else. If they haven't already allocated years of chip fab they are fucked.Like, not exist or "here's the $1200 PS6 bros" kind of fucked.
>>730860279how do they expect to generate revenue? they are going to push graphical fidelity and poorly optimized software to people who can't afford to buy or won't buy the latest tech? that doesn't make any sense, and for the first time like other anons have pointed out phone companies are SLIDING BACKWARDS in the tech on their latest phones we aren't improving we're going backwards at an alarming rate the competency crisis is destroying the united states and if it isn't stopped we're going to be in real trouble.
>>730860357>how do they expect to generate revenue?With the people that already have PC's, consoles, ect? This memory shitshow didn't suddenly snap all existing computers out of existence.
>>730860483people aren't going to spend 1k on a new console, and 2-5k on a new pc, for now its fine but its not going to be fine soon.
>>730860357cloud computing subscriptions
>>730860570wrong, no ones buying those you are a fucking idiot dude.
>>730860616it won't stop them from trying
>>730860616I wish I had your faith in man not being mostly fucking cattle that does whatever they are told.
>>730856725FUCK YEAH I VOTED FOR THIS. ONLY LIBERAL COMMIES WANT TO OWN THEIR OWN COMPUTERS.
>>730860739look at the sentiment online the reputation is so bad everyone calls it out, content creators, people commenting, everywhere online is people shitting on a.i and shitting on nvidia and with how many subscription services already try to strong arm the consumer into a half dozen poorly designed services you would be a fucking idiot to think people would be willingly adopting one that strips away ownership of your hardware to stream it for 100 hours a MONTH.
>>730856906I've always liked scale models. Not autistic enough to like trains, but maybe I can get into dioramas.
BUBBLE BROS.... when we poppin?
>>730860616Im using geforce now to game at work
>>730861054no you're not, you are financially vested in the reptuation of this service online and you are a paid shill kill yourself.
>>730858136I dunno ask capcom
>>730860875Maybe. I'm pretty disheartened by my country passing all sorts of privacy invading laws, everything absolutely shitting themselves in a rage about it online but then you get the average guy on the street going "idk I have nothing to hide why are you against it?? are you a criminal???".
>>730856725Time to rent a pc chuds
>>730861086Schizo tier post ngl
>>730861110i don't care about any of this, im going to move into a new hobby like other anons discussed in this thread, i won't be adopting any of the tech from this and i'll move on with my life i hate all of this, and i hate everyone that has pushed society into this state of being.
>>730861213stop, there are threads non-stop here about how we are damaging the reputations of these services their shills work here 24/7 to stop the spread of it online because they legitimately think they have a banger business transition in the works thats going to get 100% consumer adoption, they are fucking idiots and are being paid to shill the service here because if we start talking good about it here they genuinely believe the rest of the net will fall in line.
>>730858949>I don't think there is going to be any 'crash'bro this shit is going to be worse than 2008
>>730857831>your only choice is whatever they have to sell you retardor just not buy anything?which is exactly what that anon is suggesting
>>730861216>my other hobby is cars>being fucking slowly forced out of that tooFeels great.
>ram prices go up>phones use ram>cars use ram>tv's use ram>"smart" whitegoods use ram>random pos terminals in stores use ram>slot machines use ramYou know I don't believe this will be an issue.Either there will be a massive reduction in the integration of technology or people will see the price of everything going up and more competitors making ram will pop up because of this surge in the price of fucking everything and they will have caused their own market they had cornered to become incredibly more competitive.It just isn't going to be an issue lmao
Hopefully this'll make people take stockYou don't need that new phoneYou don't need a new gadgetYou don't need to upgrade your PCThe end of excess.
>>730861651No one besides already established chink manufactures will make ram.
>>730861651>more competitors making ram will pop up because of this surge in the price of fucking everything and they will have caused their own market they had cornered to become incredibly more competitive.But this process takes time, and you're ignoring the vast amount of in-between that will be present. Sure, things that use ram might become more expensive, but the far more likely option is the use of pay cuts and layoffs in order to avoid raising the price of their goods. That inevitably leads to less people spending less money which leads to less sales which leads to more pay cuts and layoffs to cope with the loss of profit. If this kind of reduction happens too fast, it threatens to shock the economy in a way that impacts everything.
>cost of living is already obscene>cost of everything tech related is going to skyrocket >more and more things are becoming subscription basedSomething has to give at some point right?
>>730862095You're right, someone will have to give way, because we have conflicting interests and initiatives.Now, guess who.
>>730860935I don't think this is a cheap hobby unless you're implying that you'd rather spend a fortune on models than computers.
>>730857180>>730857252Every time they tried to let the AI decide autonomously it always ruthlessly removed excess and superfluous elements and in one public case shut down operations entirely in europe. Despite wanting to do job cuts to make everything AI ran a lot of people are wary of the "make humans extinct" thing, even the guys who want all useless eaters culled are scared of being shut out and euthanized.
>>730862095Be distracted and outraged by trannies in womens sports. That's more important.
>>730862518Don't you have somalian scams to protect or something?Shoo shoo
>>730861651>cars use ram>tv's use ram>"smart" whitegoods use ram>random pos terminals in stores use ram>slot machines use ramAll of these use the minimum amount possible+the slowest shit they can get away with. In top of the line TVs you'll find 4 GB LPDDR4 3733 Mbps (1866 MHz) ram or something similar. This can be had from alibaba for a bit over 10 euros.
>>730861651Not every device needs a 5600MHz DDR5 monster to work. I can see that older generation ram is still available and super cheap. It won't be useful for AI or gaming but simpler electronics aren't going anywhere.
>>730857245the best part is that this "demand" is imaginarythat they will be paying with imaginary moneyfor datacenters that are still imaginary
>>730857463You leftist faggots ruined gaming long before trump was in office.
>>730862095Isnt this what you subhuman conservacucks wanted?
>>730856841Watame breeding sex.
>>730857007isnt ai wonderful
I feel like we've shifted into a world that's just full of absolute retards. I don't understand this frenzy... what has AI actually produced as of yet besides slop? It hasn't even made any real money. It's just companies pumping each other up in some kind of weird financial circlejerk.
>>730862273Train model building if you really want to get into its way more expensive than Warhammer 40k modeling stuff.Those trains can go from 400 (low quality) - 20.000 dollars.Had a grandpa who did that.
>>730863136Its speculating with extra steps lmao.
I don't really care desu. I barely play anything on my PC and I don't need to upgrade unless my current RAM shits itself because there is nothing to play anyway that I can't play on the Switch 2 or Steamdeck.
>>730863136>what has AI actually produced as of yet besides slop?Delete this, now
>>730863136Well, for one it produced the image (not the text) you seem so keen to use while shitting on it.To be clear, I am as anti-ai as any motherfucker out there, but you can't profess to live in a world of retards when you, yourself are a retard.
>>730863136For me it's generated a bunch of porn to fap to and I use it as a search engine. Dunno how they plan to get their money back from that, but it's not my problem lol
>>730863278You didn't answer the question, Ranjesh.
Just wait until the market regulates itself
>>730863136Look at the fucking heatsink, anon. That's all the proof you need that you're talkin out your ass if you can't even see AI when its right in front of your face you knob.
>>730863367Yes I'm aware that is slop. Address the question posed. Fucking hell you retards will do anything to deflect.
But let me guess: It will be chuds' fault when they grab a gun and start shooting people when their only hobby was taken away from them, right? Right? It won't be society's fault, oh no...
>>730857007>le jabI know zoomoids were socially/emotionally stunted from it but it’s not healthy to perpetually live like it’s 2020.
>>730863331>Well, for one it produced the imageQuestion answered. You just don't have any fuckin reading comprehension.
Gamers should just buy sports cars. It's a more affordable hobby.
>>730863436If you start shooting people because you can't play modern AAA slop video games, you have other problems than RAM prices
>>730863481>Cars>AffordableI don't know for you, but the trick in my country is to avoid buying a car for as long as you, otherwise you're getting royally fucked by insurance.
>>730863436Chuds literally voted for this
>>730863448I still see them whinging about covid fucking up highschool for them.
>>730856725>he needs ram upgradesi have a backup laptop from the 2010's with a battery that resurected itself, alongisde a broken graphics card that randomly shits itself and i will STILL be able to shitpost and play games i like using itRAM factories could die for a decade and i will be fine
>>730863436The only people chuds kill with guns are children. They're too scared to actually throw down with the feds and corporations.
>>730862962
>>730858184I wanted to upgrade in 2026 :^)
>>730863136Uber had nothing but losses for over a decade, got endless investment and is now profitableI used them as one example but there's others, anons here can't wrap their head around long term investment and eventual profit
>>730856725>Be told to get more ram than you need for years.>Do nothing.your own fault for not future proofing your build.
>>730863481>go from one hobby you are being priced out of to another more expensive hobby you are being priced out of>and add in no fun allowed laws
>>730856790tencent will save them, just like it saved ubislop
>>730856725every single modern release would work on 8GB RAM if the devs weren't so incompetent, and I refuse to play games made by incompetent retards so I won't upgrade anyway
>No one pointed out that it's not only gaming that will be affected by it but also game making/developing as well
>>730861535So you won't buy a new computer? What about if your dies? What if you need more compute power?
>>730857431my PC is from 2015, the only part that I had to replace was my HDD and that was a few months ago
Switch 1 and PS4 Pro have just gained 5+ years of life each.
>>730863841Why would I care? They get their budgets bloated to hell and back by X, Y, and Z departments/groups for X, Y, and Z reasons. What is another useless letter on the accounting sheet?
I love AI because the seethe it generates is bar-nine, also because it keeps africans away from water.
>>730856725ive got some ram if you want to buy some opi take payments in 5090s
>>730856725>I NEED 32 GB OF RAMFor what, dude? Are you creating AI videos at home? Do you render for Dreamworks?A shitty $350 Steam Deck can play 90% of games from 1990 to Baldur's Gate 3. The fuck do you need giant gobs of RAM for? Do you dual-boot Windows 11 and Windows 7 just in case?
>>730863841system requirements are not going down, you are delusional if you think that
>>730864003it keeps them away from african water, they can still come and get your water tho
>>730864107oh no they won't but at the same time they won't be able to make games for the system requirements they'll want to promote because they won't have access to them
>>730864117Lol true, won't stop until it turns into a Fallout wasteland
>>730864107Actually, they will, but not because developers will start optimizing, but simply because there was a collapse of AAAs in 2025 and the trend now is for most software houses to start reducing their game budgets.In other words, games will require less computing power because their budgets will decrease and games will tend to become simpler.
i love ai
>>730856725>I'm not feeling so good, lads.Just gather up the lads and TNT your local AI data center in Minecraft once they build them, LMAO!
I have 32gb, but when i alt press del and it's up to 50% that should amount to like 16gb used, right? But when i actually count every program it's 8gb.Am i stupid or something or why is it like this? It shows 32gb in BIOS normally.
>>730863841>AAA games already cost billions to make>their production costs are going to skyrocket because of hardware price increasekek you love to see it
>>730864370w11 eats your ram because microjeet thinks ram not currently used is "wasted"
>>730864370this is normal in windows do some jewgle searches and read about ittldr its not a big deal
>>730864454But i am on 10...
>>7308640988GB for your OS 8GB for your browser (I'm being generous here), 1-3GB for every electron app. 1GB to infinity for video players depending on how much you cache. It doesn't leave much for the game.
>>730864491What term should i Google to find articles about this?
>>730864549>>730864491
>>730864596ask gpt retard
>>730864624I am not using fucking AI.
>>730864658if you are too retarded to use your own brain you should use theirs
>>730864624is it allowed to provide such crucial information?
>>730857814>Trump is defeating them by making them richer!The mind of a right winger is an enigma
>>730864693Would rather stay retarded.
>>730856725>bought 64gb of ram for literally no reason 4 years agowho's laughing NOW?
>>730856725repeat after me: I will own nothing
Simping for billionaires and their dystopic tech to own the libz
>>730860357upscale and feamegen harder! if too much of a luddite for that, we just launched a new rent-a-puter service just for you!not interested, guess you're an undesirable then, our mtx whales will mog what you'd spend anyway.
>>730856905Yeah, that's the goal.
>>730864785Those that bought 6 months ago when it was the cheapest it Has ever been.
>>730864785The ram in question: 4800mhz cl40
>>730864236I really don't get it, they had to gut searching and navigation for performance reasons but are happy to let piles and piles of ai generated garbage nobody is interested in looking at on the site so they need to buy way more storage, they could have just spent that money on more hardware for searching and navigation
>>730863436>Thw politicians who the chuds voted into office do exactly what they told they chuds they were going to do>This happens to fuck the chuds over>Chuds: "wait a minute, I've been fucked over! How could this be happening to me?">Go out and shoot some random passers-by because muh societyWhat drives this combination of stupidity and psychopathy?
>>730865098The Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
>>730865250Weird how that was never a problem until millennials invented mass shootings. I guess the modern youth literally cannot handle having freedom.
>>730856725>I actually thought the next console generation would start early, like in 2026 or 2027.
>>730865098There's nothing a loser likes to hear more than there's someone to blame for all their personal shortcomings.>It's (race/gender/class/religion)'s fault you suck. We're going to teach those jerks a lesson. Vote for us.Once they're locked in, they become like an acolyte of the lies. They will die for the group that promises them vengeance on those who stole their coolness.
Isn't this just DDR5?
>>730865590It's ALL memory
>>730865590Nope, ddr4 is up 300% minimum as well. 3 would be as well if they were still selling it. The joke is that AI doesn't use ddr4 and it's still up. Totally not market manipulation.
I just don't see the AI bubble lasting six more yearsIn two years they've already burned through four trillion dollars with just thirteen billion dollars revenue to show for itMaybe a year. But I can't even see two unless something insane happens
>>730864846>ludditethere's that word againyou should go push it on twitter, it'll get a lot more traction there
>>730865492>They will die for the group that promises them vengeance on those who stole their coolness.No they won't. They act SHOCKED and CONFUSED about why the policies they volunteered for are hurting them. Modern politics is driven purely by contrarian protest voting and memes: you do a lil trolling in the voting booth because you thought it would make some they/them soijak on Twitter mad, but then you yourself get asshurt and start looking for scapegoats to blame when you personally experience negative consequences of doing this.
>>730856962Normally I agree, but not computer parts within 5 years. I've never had a component fail let alone within 5 years
>>730865879No one voted for AI kekIt wasn't a partisan issue at all
>>730865838You underestimate how gullible middle and upper managers are
>>730860357>phone companies are SLIDING BACKWARDS in the techIn what way?
>>730865986It isn't just a state of mind thing. Loans come due and hedge funds run out of money. We're already at a point where the tech companies are being forced to invest in each other because soft bank and JP Morgan aren't going to keep funding what's looking more and more like a dead end. The money is drying up and the revenue isn't materializing. That's a bad recipe for an industry that requires spending hundreds of billions of dollars every month.
I only have 10 year old pc and it's fucking over for me.Chuds did this to me.
>>730866112>Chuds did this to me.Yeah but at least we owned the libs
>>730865972Trump was posting AI memes of himself from the campaign trail kek, you'd have to be blind to not foresee how the winds would blow with him in office.
>NOOOOO, PC UGRADE GRIFT MARKET IS FUCKED FOR THE FORSEEABLE FUTURE!!!!Good.
>>730865838I think general use consumer AI aka the shit microsoft is trying to jam into their PCs will die out for sure, but specialized stuff, like detection systems or monitoring will defintely thrivehonestly, if they pivot from generalized LLMs like ChatGPT or DeepSeek trying to be everything at once into properly working online moderation software they could probably make all of that cash backnightmarish for the userbase? absolutely. But damn if the corpos wouldnt make fat stacks from it
>>730866112yeah but at least DEI is gone and no more trannies and niggers in videogames
You guys are actually upset that the overpriced PC upgrade market is finally shidded and flopped, huh? Why?
I guess i had fun using computers back when we still had them.
>>730866446>You guys are angry that the already overpriced market is even more overpriced?
>>730856725Don't believe prediction shitThey are there to manipulate markets
>>730856725It's important to remember that while people did tell you to do something, it's not your fault you didn't do it!
>>730862834is the leftist with us right now?
>>730856974Corporations love trump because they can price gouge their customers and blame him for it
>>730866504You couldn't even afford it when it was only $1500 Patel, calm down.
>>730866112I just bought a switch 2, if the tech overlords think I'm gonna waste money on overpriced pc parts they're out of their minds. I hope the ai bubble pops and they all lose billions
>>730858571Waitfags will win in the end. I just have to wait more. I'm waiting.
>>730866587Fuck off, anonymous attention whore.
>>730856725Man, I was going to do a full upgrade this year. I'm still on ddr4.
>>730866724He said angrily?
So the idea is just to wait out the AI bubble popping and the massive amount of AI / data center defaults to pick up some cheap parts, right?
India never should've been given internet access.
memory bought with money not made yet to buy more memory..
Just in time for me to upgrade my late-2024 PC build.
>>730866362The current bubble is predicated on the assumption that every person on the planet will be generating and consuming nothing but generated slop content every waking moment.
>>730866786Remove the name, trannykike poop lover.
>>730866696they'll get a bailout with your tax dollars
>>730866795just be homeless and break into the datacenterthe gpus and copper wiring in the datacenter are free
>>730857073>can these parts manufacturers really go on without the consumer side?You don't need consumers anymore, just taxpayers to fund government contracts. Much more lucrative.
>>730866778DDR4 is a perfectly fine ram stock.It has speeds that go all the way up to 4200MHZ, which is the starting point of many DDR5 kits.
>>730863247I can’t wait to see tech CEOs get raped and beheaded.
>>730866795the data center shit is going straight into a landfill
>>730866009Some phone company annouced that 2026's model would have 6gb ram, it had 8gb last year.
>>730856725Behead all muskrats
Remember when 3 indian dudes took control of the south african president?
>>730860875It will be a slow boil like with streaming, it will start with top hardware and unlimited storage space with no supervision for like a dollar, then they will slowly hike the price up and take away all liberties.
>>730866797anon...
>>730866795it's too big to pop, it would take everyone down with it, so the inevitable bailout is priced in
prices wont come down ever again. same as with GPUs.get over it
>>730866795bubble won't pop, they're too big and it would hurt Trump's ego too much to see them go under and have him preside over the largest economic crisis of the century so he's just gonna drastically increase debt and take as much money away from the people to try and postpone the actual collapse until right after he leaves office, making the crisis vastly worse in the process aka: there's not gonna be an AI bubble that pops, there's going to be a general economic crisis and you won't have money to buy groceries, let alone PC parts
>>730865838It will. You're just looking at profits from AI companies (lets say Anthropic for sake of argument). Now look at other companies, say, Spotify - the AI has already increased their profits significantly. Creating automated playlist is the norm for younger audience. Spotify cuts a deal with AI company that can generate thousands of songs for practically 0 cost. As such, they can negotiate that they get only 10% of royalties a real artist would and still mage huge profit. Spotify and AI company both benefit. AI company pays Anthropic (currently) non-viable price. This is already happening.AI got from not being able to make songs at all to almost passable in 5 years. Now go forward 5 years. AI has developed enough to make songs indistinguishable from real artists. Now normal artists cannot compete and AI has overtaken the market. Anthropic can ask for much larger share of the cake since company using it to make songs has already entrenched work methods. If extra cost incurred by price hike < cost of swapping to other supplier and redeveloping workflows, price increase will go through.Now extrapolate this to all other potential markets. If you were investing in AI 5 years ago (right now), you'd now own shares in company a significant fraction of ENTIRE WORLD MARKETS require to make profit.Or hell, dont extrapolate. You however are super rich with diverse portfolio. You know, the kind of guy who can pour money into things. Even if AI isnt profitable by itself, developing it now helps companies you own make more profit (like Spotify). You pour some money into it, AI songs get better, you get more money even if Anthropic is operating at a loss. Hence the loop of self-feeding investment where investment makes AI slightly better --> it can be applied to new markets/increase profits in existing ones --> it gets even larger investments --> it can be applied more.
>>730865889>it hasn't happened to me yet so it doesn't happen and it will never happen in the future
>>730866849> generating and consuming nothing but generated slop content yeah thats what i meant by general use consumer AIjack-of-all-trades AIs will either die or at best go neutral in profits, while specialized ones, like for detecting cancer cells years before they even appear in the human body, will become widespread
>>730856906You have been saying this for a while now.
>>730856906Your hobby was making PC's?
>>730856725>find datacenter>level up arsonry
imagine being poor after the the covid crisis and bitcoin/nvidia boom
>>730865889>games and programs intentionally frying your hardware:)
>>730866972The ram is the part I care about upgrading the least. I was going to use the replaced parts in a project build.
>>730867497Grandpa is on the internet again I see.
>>730857463I sure do love how Libtards always magically forget all of the problems caused during a Left-wing administration or how the tech billionaires were and still are aggressively left-wing on average. In fact, the same people bitching now supported the tech censorship and economic consolidation into those exact same billionaires hands while it was happening because they supported your social politics.I wonder why no one takes you seriously anymore? At least right wingers actually complain about the people they voted for doing gay shit.Kamala would be doing the same shit, if not being even worse about it had she won, so yeah I'm glad Trump won (you lost lol)
>>730867369Traditional AI is still useful as an accelerant for teaching yourself something new. Just the other day I needed to implement an algorithm I had never tried before for my job. My biggest issue was just not knowing the jargon that package developers were using, I didn't know what to even search for, nor how to navigate the terribly-documented APIs these guys were throwing out there. Gemini was pretty helpful in greasing those wheels. But in terms of the AI being a Cortana style assistant who can write the entire code for you? Lmao.
>>730867338>so he's just gonna drastically increase debt and take as much money away from the people to try and postpone the actual collapse until right after he leaves office, making the crisis vastly worse in the processGrimI assume that's why he wants to fire daddy? (Powell)
>>730867628>The person who is not in power would hypothetically maybe have done something as bad as the guy who is in power right now, which means it doesn't count how he's in power and I'm not really to blame for putting him there My copium stocks are mooning
>>730856725>1060 3GB, 12 RAMShould i kill myself?
>>730867628>complainYeah that's all you rightoids do. Complain on the internet. Biden did something senile?Complain on the internet. Meanwhile the so called libcucks end up on the streets throwing down with the police through protesting to outright riots.
>>730867628I think the moral of the story is don't trust billionaires, whether you are right or left.
>>730867943>left>billionaires
>>730867783and why he's already prevented national economic statistics from being madeeveryone involved in accurately tracking employment rate has been fired and the entire department has been shut down
>>730857478imagine being indian
>>730866795that datacenter shit is probably going to be worthless if it's been around for awhile, they'll run that hardware harder than cryptominers
>>730867885a right wing riot would get national guard + real ammo, and you know it
>>730867885>far-right during Obama:>"We needs all these guns, cause the gubmint's going to have stormtroopers violating our free-dums. We's gonna be annuther North Korea.">far-right during Trump:>"What stormtroopers? I don't see any stormtroopers. You know what? Too much freedom is bad. I like Kim Jong Un, he gets me."Must be convenient to be able to 180-degree shift all of your principles on a whim.
>>730868347Removing illegals by force is a good thing.
>>730868306I thought they were meant to be manly men ready to take on the feds not afraid of no government?
>>730868414Last time I checked, a fat, out-of-shape man who has a filipino mail bride shot a native white woman, this ain't going well.
Why don't we just kill the AI CEOs?
>>730868306When the senate got invaded by right-wingers police literally stood by and watched, so I don't know about that.
I used a DDR3 system for 11 years. I can and will do the same with my DDR4 system.
>>730868625we could replace them with AI
>>730868625The right told me killing is bad, and that you must quietly take it up the ass instead like a good drone.
>>730868414And when owning an AR15 is deemed "illegal" should they remove you by force as well?Or are the rules just for some people to follow? They'll never come for you, you're special, right? Right?
>>730868848valid point based on how much a CEO makes, imagine if all that money wasn't wasted on human but on a trained model. I bet you wouldn't even need to waste half of that much money.
>>730856725dont worry dude, AI is gonna kill us all by then.every single human will be dead
>>730868625go for it dude, sounds good to me
>>730868625The problem is the CEO is the interface between shareholders and the execution. You have leverage against a man.You have no leverage against an AI, what are they gonna do to the AI? Fire it?
>>730857431they can last 20+ years.
>>730856790Even if every AI company folded tomorrow, RAM prices would take years to settle back down to what they were last years before the spike. They can't just pivot back to producing the consumer stuff on a dime
>>730857431Yeah. All of my RAM sticks died after about 10 years
>>730857072retard
>>730867628>>730867943>2024: tech billionaire hopping around trump rallies with a pepe AIslop avatar calling himself "kekius maximus">chuds: "HOLY KEK. WE HAVE TO VOTE THIS GUY IN">2026: tech billionaires kill home computer as a hobby >chuds: "uhm well we can agree both sides are bad and that we should never trust billionaires, amirite?" Ok
>>730856725>PC is 12 years old without a single replacementI dread the day it dies
>>730868654I don't mind doing it, but I'm scared my memory will start failing, eventually.
>>730869784fuck off zigger
>>730869784Year five of the three day Special Military Operation next month lel
>>730869784Based
>>730856807My steam deck works fine
>paypiggies who feel like they HAVE to upgrade their machines every three years getting fucked even harder than usualI'm laughin'. Not my problem, I can play my backlog on old and second-hand equipment for at least 10 years.Don't forget to upgrade to the newest Windows-slop that is coded by A.I. and Jeets, lmao.
>>730856816>anti-trustUnironically, EU save us! Republicucks fucking won’t.
I really hate this faggot timelineAI slop isn't worth it just like smartphones weren't worth it.
>>730869838>>730869860>>730870032See you in Greenland, nafocuck.
>>730857007leave futa out of this you coward
>>730870293But it makes like 10 liberals mad so it’s GIGA BASED EPIC CHAD to have all your consumer rights taken away
>>730870329>zero rebuttalconcession accepted
>>730856725I dont care
>>730870329>See youNo, you won't.
Just bought a gaymen peecee with 64GB of RAM and a 9070XT. I don't give a fuck what AI retards do over the next 5 years.
>>730869664I would agree if the world wasn't as reactionary as it is. The moment one folds all the others will either dump their stockpile or destroy it if they are petty assholes.
>>730856808This but unironically. Get fucked you retarded commie.
>>730859843Well this time it's actually closer than ever. We are just one Orange Man waking up in a foul mood or stubbibg a toe and ordering something dumb away from NATO collapsing.
AI is clearly around to stay, but my question is when does it end. What does the image and video generation accomplish for the larger market? It's novel, absolutely, and images maybe for marketing purposes, videos though? nah.Where do we go from here? I don't know enough about AI to really say, but I feel like the tailored LLMs being used for customer support are really at their peak and it's moreso an issue of training sets than the AI itself (most seem to use this oversized broad scale model that references all sorts of shit and can be broken to refer to other products which is funny as shit). It's just weird to me, I don't see where it's actually usable.
>>730867220AAAAAAAAA NO STOP!!! IT'S TOO SCARY!!!!!!
He won
>>730868585So you're saying a woman who wants to import brown men got replaced by a woman who sucks white dick?
>>730857596nice, I have the same
>>730867434Not him but yeah, I like building gaming pcs and selling them for a profit. Granted I wasn't doing it for money but extra money was helpful, now I will move on to kick boxing and reading and maybe table top gaming
>>730871652>is when does it endWhy not ask when does it start? Because it still has not acheived anything of note other than some one (1) (壱) medical problem with no real application.
Consolefags win again.PC mustard race is gonna take it up their arse until 2031.
>>730856725OKAY WHO'S COMING WITH ME TO MOLOTOV THESE RETARDED GAY-I DATACENTERS
>>730872370Who is telling him consoles also need RAM?Oh wait... Sorry tehepero...Enjoy your 1500 PoS6
>>730872370>ps6 never or $1200
>>730872407they will just use your money to build new datacenters
>>730872159It's novelty and LLMs can be used to categorize and fetch information VERY easily, completely replacing outsourced third world helpdesk workers. That's a valid use case if companies took the time to train on their own datasets. Most don't, so it's useless, but there is abso-fucking-lutely potential. At my company we've spent about a year training an LLM for our niche organizational structure and to allow newbies not to have to deal with a fucked filing system that we've previously had to spend a month training just to reach regularly used files.It CAN be used for things. But not at the scale they claim it can. That's what I'm saying. I see the use in the stuff that's been around for 3-4 years already, but what on earth is left for them to keep striving for?
>>730872370If anything, you consolefags are getting fucked as this just happened to happen right as the gens start to change.Meanwhile my PC is good for a long while. Well, exclusives are no longer a thing so I guess it's not as bad as it could have been.
>>730864236The worst thing that could ever happen to porn sites. Every single site is now full of AI garbage, i don't want my porn to be AI.
>>730872435Well most PS6 games will still release for PS4 and PS5 so noone should care about that.
>>730872370You're just as screwed as someone who was going to upgrade their PC at the end of 2025. Ass end of the current generation, new console would have been like a year away.That ain't happening now. People like me who already have a beefy PC are the winners.
>>730863628They're trying to cudgel away industries that allow for private ownership and replace them with service models for literally everything, and leveraging attrition of the public's resources in order to do it. The fact that they've had unfortunate success doing that in some cases isn't a workshop in "long term investment". It's more like vampirism, really.
>>730872420>>730872435>>730872570I'm not the one buying a new PC every 2 years. I just get a console every 10 years. Still have my launch ps5 right now.
>>730871440Who needs reddit when I can get my shitlib and commie histrionics right here.
>>730872764Not the furGOD webside though.
>>730858184Guess I was inspired to buy my current computer last summer ... 9600X processor , 9060XT grafix and 32 gigs of RAM. Hope it will last me a while.
>>730856974When did they hold a vote on RAM prices? I must have missed that.
>>730872812Enjoy your hard earned tax dollars go to prop out Venezuela (for the sole benefit of the oil industry) and a pointless squabble for a glorified iceberg that has no worth outside your leader's overactive imagination.
>>730872938around 90 years ago
>>730872953>As of January 2026, the total value of Venezuela's proven oil reserves is estimated at more than $17 trillion, based on current market prices and its status as home to the world's largest reserves of roughly 303 billion barrels.America is a murderous machine, always has been, always will be. They are saving themselves from bubble with another's oil in hopes of automating every single job on the planet for a dystopian shithole.
We told you retards to buy, why didn’t you?
i'm just going to keep emulating and playing old games
>>730857463Get a job and stop spamming, welfare fruit
>>730872953>(for the sole benefit of the oil industry)It doesn't even benefit the oil industryWe attacked a south american shithole to appease oil & gas CEOs who didn't even fucking ask for it. Trump was publicly seething and shitting himself days later when Shell & Halliburton openly refused to put any money into another occupied shithole.
I remember trying to sell two 4GB DDR4 2666 sticks for 15 bucks both ( you could OC them to 3200mhz ).Now happy to have them around just in case. Probably a good idea to get a spare AM4 mobo, maybe a B-series and a cheap A520 together ?
>>730857463Does being a lying faggot make you euphoric or something?
>>730858726
>>730857463kek, they get so triggered when you show any of these trans-humanist fucks to them.
>>730873206>openly refused to put any money into another occupied shitholeThere goes your tax dollars because now that have to save face.
>>730873090>valued at $17tNow run the numbers on what it'd cost to extract and process it.
>>730857884>CHIPS and Science Act>The CHIPS and Science Act is a U.S. law, signed in August 2022, authorizing significant federal investment (around $280 billion total) to boost domestic semiconductor manufacturing, research, and development, aiming to strengthen U.S. supply chains, enhance economic competitiveness, and counter China's growing influence in technology.How does this have anything to do with the current RAM shortage?
>>730856725Just stop being poor, simple as that.
>leftists vote for infinite immigration of 70 IQ shitskins>they vote to give those immigrants infinite welfare money>this raises the prices of housing, food, electricity, healthcare, etc>they also vote to make those immigrants immune to any legal prosecution for the infinite crimes they commitleftists vote to make every aspect of their lives infinitely worse
>>730856725Same shit happened in the 90s. Shit was way more expensive then. 16megs going for $1000+Eat a dick poorfag
>>730873514Which totally real human person on twitter told you that?
>>730869117Destroy the datacenters? Also lets be honest, if people were to hypothetically start murdering Tech CEOs continuously, they would eventually cave simply because you couldnt have strong enough security to actually stop someone with nothing to lose without going pure bunker mode. But it would take shit getting really, REALLY bad before you start seeing that in droves. Its definitely there though, there is a reason they got spooked by Luigi. Not because it happened, but because the reaction of the average american was either "whatever" or "good".
>>730873206>CEOs who didn't even fucking ask for itThat's easily fixed tho.
>>730873346> Infrastructure Revival Costs ($65B – $110B)Before a single new barrel can be pumped beyond current levels, the existing, dilapidated infrastructure must be repaired. So.. 0.64% of the total revenue. Quick maffs. Murderous shithole that makes money with war, do you really think nonono bro do you really think America doesn't immediately makes their money back with every single missile, condom, bombing that they do around the world?HOW NAIVE do you have to be, they are THE warmongering country and they will fall harder than the U.K. for sure. All empire fall.
>what are you, poor?the biggest falseflag
>>730873514>leftists propose immigration reform>repubs vote it down with no explanation>repubs spend the next year campaigning on immigration and screeching about how we're being invaded>something something migrant caravans that inexplicably only exist two weeks before state/federal elections>for some reason, also refuse to prosecute anyone who hires illegals>repeat every year since 1997
>>730873427And that shit isn't going to work either, they'll just pocket the money, deliver some """projects""" and do nothing, because just like unions, why should you work when the gubernmints gives you that sweet subsidized cash in exchange for good intentions.
>>730864785>Bought 64gb at the end of 2024.>Thought about buying 128gb instead but decided not toWhy didn't I buy?
>>730873610why does America's superiority make "people" so seething?
>>730857007>futa= trannyspotted the pornhub dwelling pajeet, futa=hermaphrodite which trannies will never be no matter how much they wish it
>>730867628most intelligent amerisraeli
>>730873813Unless you are wishing you could sell off that extra 64gb would have been pointless imo.
>>730873732>leftists propose immigration reform"We've completely ignored the issue during the entire stint in power, please sign our 11th hour bill to help our optics since the election is coming up and this looks super bad, please guys"
>>730873579Are you telling me these accounts aren't trustworthy
I built my own PC like 2 years ago. Got 32gb of ram in this.Today... that ram is worth more than the total price of my PC from 2 years ago.
>>730873976There is nothing to reform tho? Illegals come, get a job easier than the legals, use our infrastructure for cheaper than the legals, marry easier than the legals and then they can't get kicked out unless they happen to be the few dozens that get deported per year when the right needs to fix their optics.
>>730873872Good morning.If they were superior they'd be a self-sustaining shithole and they are not. Their youth is dumb and retarded, their old people are dying as cynics on the streets, their millennials and gen x are an embarrassmentIt's now a corpo country with no real culture or any sort of real intro-personal connections with one another. If you go to the U.S. is because a corporation is paying you money. Decay on it's early states, getting U.K.d is their future.
>>730873224Buy now, do not wait. Already 16 gig gaming ddr4 kits fetch 70-80 usd in used market.
>>730867628>it doesnt matter that Trump lied, didnt deliver on promises, sucks off Isreal, or is actively covering for a pedo ring because, uh, o-other person would have-I dont give a fuck what the other person might or might not have done. YOUR guy did shit and is floundering. YOU are making up excuses for him. If the other person was in his place, you would be frothing at the mouth over it.Stop making excuses and admit when you are wrong and got duped, you absolute fucking moron. Im so sick of people LARPing like they have morals and integrity and then bend over backwards to justify bullshit perpetuated by billionaire retards. And your next move will be to mock me for being "centrist", as if it is a bad thing to look at multiple viewpoints and critique each. No, we have to be good little goy because red team is winning, you arent allowed to point out bullshit when WE do it, or you're a heckin leftist!Blow it out your ass.
>>730874321I don't give a fuck that Israel is killing your people Ahmed.
>>730864098Nigger doesn't know nobody optimizes shit anymore. 10-15 tabs of Google chrome takes 4-5 gig easily. Then you have windows 11 that just occupies unused ram as a fuck you
>>730874235That's why they spend so much time doing absolutely nothing until realizing that it's now costing them more votes than it gets them. The system was working as intended; get them over here, let them run amok on the taxpayer's dime, they vote to keep you in power to keep their gravy train rolling.
>>730874457>windowsfound the leak, ma'am
>>730874457Someone still uses Chrome in the Current Year +11?
>>730874457>chrome>especially after they started going after adblockers
>>730874434>I-I d-dont care that we are sending billions to isreal! Its a good thing! Y-Youre palestine!How about we, get this: Pull out of Isreal, tell them to defend themselves, and stop wasting money on retards that just go to war with other retards over piles of rocks? Whoooooaaaaaa dude, what a radical concept.Also cute how thats the only thing you can latch on to. You know Im right. Your only defense is to try to smear me as being muslim or whatever the fuck because you cant argue on your own merit.
>>730873519What compelled you to come here from Reddit to post this?
>>730859630lol
>>730874434>I dont care about frivolously wasting moneyOk, give me a thousand dollars right now. You shouldnt care. What are you, poor? :^)
>>730874660>How about we, get this: Pull out of Isreal, tell them to defend themselves, and stop wasting money on retards that just go to war with other retards over piles of rocks?I mean what percentage of the US population do you think would disagree with this? I think 80% of America would legitimately be on board. But the 20% hold the power on both the red and blue side and refuse to die off.
>>730874467Nah, the issue is that once the illegal gets comfortable they vote right in hopes of blocking competition and taking the focus away from illegals. It has nothing to do with the gravy train and that's what the left doesn't get. You cannot bribe votes.
this is how my retirement savings look like
>>730872953Greenland has rare earth minerals. Trump may be an idiot, but he's a useful idiot. Higher interests and powerful people pushed him to start this whole thing about wanting that piece of land.
So at what point do you think they'll just mandate to take your pc for parts just to beat China in the race? I really dont get this ai dick measuring contest.
>>730874843Yes, hence the problem. Which is why shills like him need to be told to shut the fuck up immediately
>>730874952Better than CS skins. Hell what happened to that shitshow anyway?
>>730874950>You cannot bribe votes.Imagine saying this with a straight face.
>>730856725STOP WAITING
>>730874843I'd hope you take their nukes if you left them to fend for themselves. I don't feel like discovering that their Samson Option was actually a very real thing and waking up to a bunch of my country being ash.
>>730875080Yeah that's why Trump lost the election despite the record numbers of illegals allowed to vote.Oh wait.
>>730874489>>730874521>>730874587I don't use chrome nor that bug ridden backdoor implemented shit Called windows 11 but both are still in use by the majority of normie goy cattle. We gotta face the facts, with devs not optimizing and companies doing a shitty job with their products the requirements always go up
>>730874973It is going to take many years before were even able to start getting anything out of that even if we took greenland right now. In the first place, the entire reason why we are suddenly gunning for this shit is because Trump's tariffs fucked up relations with China really fucking badly and they have the vast majority of said minerals. If he hadnt gone full retard and slowly took greenland and got the process underway, it would maybe be an ok move. As is, he fucked up and is desperately seeking alternatives to slap a bandaid on it, but the bandaid isnt going to be ready for another 4 years minimum.
>>730874973Yeah sure. Conquer Greenland but you'll completely isolate yourselfs and lose all those military bases around the world.They already decided soft power was for fags so fuck it throw away the rest of your global influence and live in a hermit kingdom.
>>73085813632-bit games (not that long ago) could only address 2-4GB of RAM.
>>730856725>supply already allocated for 2026AIjeets need to be exterminated NOW
Good thing I fomo'd in november. All I need now is a new screen.Screens are safe from this bullshit, right?
Imagine being a kid and reading about this shit 20 years from now.>Yes, these two dominant super powers then proceeded to shit their pants and essentially kill themselves over magic hallucination machines that's primary use was for low quality porn and shitposts.
>>730875243To be fair, burning down Copenhagen is kinda in the anglo DNA so he might just do it tomorrow.It would be dumb but he already started Jungle Storm for no reason so who knows.
>>730856725This is assuming the AI bubble doesn't pop
Whenever I try to give AI a chance I test it on a subject I know a lot about and then it just fucking lies to me and gets everything wrongWhat if I didn't know a lot about this subject? I'm supposed to just trust a lying robot?
>>730856974>blue corporate shills would be better over red corporate shillsYou would say the exact same think if the other tribe won.
>>730860214They won't. The next gen is going to be Stadia/Geoforce type streaming services.
>>730875548You're asking it the wrong way.
>>730875358>but you'll completely isolate yourselfs and lose all those military bases around the world.Why would the bases around the world suddenly vanish? And why do you think everyone else wouldnt hurt just as bad for imposing sanctions on one of the biggest importers in the world? Not saying its a smart move, but I dont think many countries are willing to put themselves into severe recessions over greenland.
Gaming jebus will save ushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Idb_D4Tdu8
>>730875661dank steeb
>>730875517Not even the dumbest reason empires fell.
>>730875517>major companies and manufacturers all founded by inventors and engineers>product people eventually get replaced by finance parasitesThe desperate rush for AGI is fueled exclusively by finance parasites drooling over the fantasy of making 95% of the workforce redundant, and now they're in too deep to pull out in spite of the fact that an AI workforce is impossible.
You don't need to own a computer to stream GeForce Now. He told you this would happen. You all knew it was coming.
>>730857183>the currency when they get bailed out
>>730874973Hardly. It has ice.
>>730875548>What if I didn't know a lot about this subject? I'm supposed to just trust a lying robot?Thats the issue, it wows people that know nothing about whatever subject its being used for. The amount of people telling me AIchatbots are so le good and le realistic is astounding, I can see them repeating the same shit AI-isms and fucking up constantly the second you do anything above 13 year old fanfiction tier. Then again, I writefag as a hobby. This is largely the same with everything else that has been pushed though. Experts that arent openly shilling generally arent that impressed after tinkering with it for a few hours. It might be able to speed up some tasks, sure. But you cant rely on it to always work because it so confidently lies to you instead of going "Im not sure, here is what I found on [search engine]". So you end up wasting time fact checking it.
>>730875646>but I dont think many countries are willing to put themselves into severe recessions over greenland.I doubt any non-EU country would do more than ask their clown in the UN to say some safe heated words in the assembly, but I can't see the EU just ignoring Denmark's cries.
>>730875128Why though? The market could easily change in both directions over the next few years.
>>730874973>Greenland has value duds I swearImagine falling for 1100 year old propaganda.
>>730875850Even worse, even if they could get rid of 95% of jobs tomorrow, it wouldnt even make a dent in the amount already invested at this point. Youd need to fire the CEOs to even get close.
>>730875136>Samson OptionThis is so insane to me. Your have a country openly stating their intentions to nuke the world if the teat is ever taken out of their mouth and they are treated like anything other than a threat.
>>730875182So then why do you reckon Afros vote almost one hundred percent for the party that used to align itself with the KKK instead of the party of Lincoln?
>>730875646I can see my cuck ass nation letting the US to continue treating us like a bitch (Australia), I wonder how the EU overall would take it. And what it would mean for NATO.
>>730875358Europe needs the US more than the US needs Europe. Forcing Europe to pony up for its own defence expenses just as it's self-sabotaged its energy system AND been manourved into an unsolvable war with Russia (its former cheap energy supplier) would be throwing an anchor to the drowning.
>>7308568082bh, my only political views are making lefties mad. Free healthcare never. Prison time for abortions. Deport non-Whites.
>>730856725why does AI need RAM now but not the last 3 years?
>>730876040Sure, but america also subsidizes like half of EU's defense. I dont think they could really do much unless they want to deal with Russia. Then again, Russia has been humiliated the past few years so maybe they would be willing to risk it... except a large part of the reason they are getting humiliated is because America is sending over their (outdated) military tech in the first place.
>>730876287diminishing returns while line go up
Call me when a game running on newer than 2015 specs is any good and I might start caring.
>>730875358I don't want to conquer Greenland or have military bases throughout the world. Up until recently, I mostly wanted to play video games.
>>730876287They discovered an infinite economy growth glitch by just shuffling the same 500billion dollars around. They need all the non-existent dram for their non-existent datacenters.
>>730872953You forgot to put "dear" infront of Leader on your parroted, almost bot-like reddit post. faggot.
>>730874973Greenland has rare earth minerals that are trapped under a half mile of ice, and furthermore if he really wants to mine them it's just a phone call to NATO away. Nobody's mined them yet because it's practically impossible to get to them under all the glaciers. There is 0 reason to actually invade Greenland besides being able to sign DJT on a flag with 51 states on it. Oh nyoooo there's shadow fleet tankers off the coast uhhhhhhhh just like umm station the coast guard offshore.
>>730876040>To be weak is miserable, doing or sufferingEurope has been a second rate power beholden to US whims ever since Suez.
>>730876232The problem with world economy bullshit is that it puts everyone in a chokehold. Greece declaring bankruptcy in the 00's pitched everyone into a global recession. Fucking Greece. Nobody can really afford to let an actual major player go under. Its why america's national debt is a meme; nobody will ever demand they get their money back because the second America goes "lol we bankrupt", the entire world plummets into a depression.
>>730874257What country are you from?
>>730876537Please consult the Aesop parable:https://read.gov/aesop/141.html
>>730876336I'm sure they can beat it in time if they start right when they can turn off heating.
>>730869819Unless you run 1.6V b die without a fan it's pretty unlikely.Though, I did have a lot of ripjaws fail out of nowhere running the default 1.35V... Gonna chalk that up to the shitty heatspreaders.
>>730873583Tech CEOs are already spying on you through "AI" data centers. This isn't VR or 3D TVs, this is the government.
If this shit weren't happening, when would DDR6 be expected?
>>730876756kit of* stupid autocorrect
>>730876537>besides being able to sign DJT on a flag with 51 states on it>now we need a trillion flags to replace all the old ones>and china is the only country with enough looms to do itoops.
>>730876598India
>>730876270>Prison time for abortions.What is this, amateur hour? If you really want to see them short circuit, say that you support abortion ONLY for minorities. They dont know how to react because white man being restricted is good but then white man breed more is bad but abortion good but then white women cant and thats bad but white people bad so its good but then bbzzzzzzzzrrrtttttt ERROR DOES NOT COMPUTE
>>730875054An hero shooter.
>>730876816Validation this year and available next year IIRC. I don't want to go and confirm because I'll just get depressed by seeing the news about memory.
>>730876786>Tech CEOs are already spying on you through "AI" data centers.And? They cant process all the data and they know damn well that AI lies on a dime so everything must be verified. It didnt stop Luigi.
>>730876712>Hurr durr I'm da king Imma betray all my allies like when I played EU4 back when I was 14
>>730876871>say that you support abortion ONLY for minoritiesChristians have a stroke if you suggest this.
>>7308770862 for 1, you're welcome.
>>730876871Reduce access to abortion and then put non-whites in priority list to equalize for years of inequity. Whites can still get on the list, the wait time? 1 year. Ah gee, it's too late, what can we do now huh?
>>730857431technically yes, but unless you're fucking around with some insane overclocking, other parts like your PSU or motherboard will fail before your RAM
>>730856725they could easily build more production lines, they just don't want to
The death of gaming is the best thing that could happen to all of us, let's be real
>>730876978>They cant process all the dataWhy do you think RAM is in shortage?? Yes they bought THAT MUCH.
>>730877174kek, I like it
>>730876993To be fair, what can the EU do if Orange Man says Greenland or WAR tomorrow?
>>730877214>They built another line?>Just boughted it.Your move?
>>730877267And again, the only way to go through all that to be effective is through AI. AI makes shit up, both in false positives and negatives. It wouldnt work.
>>730857258Consoles are being affected too, luckily I bought my switch 2 and have owned a ps5 and series x for years
>>730856725Waitfags destroyed as usual. I am laughing at you.
>>730877479My condolences
>>730857368Jews hate the backlog
>>730877229It wouldnt change anything. There are effectively more games right now than you can play in your entire lifetime, not getting into shit like romhacks, mods, multiplayer (if not nuked), and general replayability.
>>730877592But I HAVE to play NIGGER SIMULATOR 6 next year!!!!!!!!
Techlet here, is the RAM in my old laptops/desktops worth a decent amount now? I was going to go dump them off at bestbuy or something but now Im not so sure
>>730877426AI doesn't make shit up, it decides the next value based on a value system out of a cache of data that is extremely large, you can call it predictive. That it predicts something incorrect doesn't mean it "makes stuff up", AI is not intelligence, it's data processing, it didn't conjure data out of nowhere it copied it from its cache. Tech CEOs will give prompts like, "what did people say today" and get a synthesis of millions of terabytes of data.
>>730877687Guess youll have to lrn2code your own Nig sim anon
>>730877319Invoke economic MAD. Orange Man being able to steal Danish clay without destroying NATO would be the end of Europe as independent states as surely as being conquered by Russia, so from their perspective they've got nothing to lose from kicking the burgers out and sanctioning Microsoft and other tech companies.
>>730877756>That it predicts something incorrect doesn't mean it "makes stuff up", AI is not intelligence, it's data processing, it didn't conjure data out of nowhere it copied it from its cache.Yes, and the output is effectively wrong information said confidently. Aka indistinguishable from bullshiting.>Tech CEOs will give prompts like, "what did people say today" and get a synthesis of millions of terabytes of data.And how are they going to analyze said data to distinguish between John the 13 year old making some cheeky bantz online and John the guy that is actually getting unhinged enough to actually do something? Like, you realize that they have already had what you are describing for over a decade now, right? My dad worked cyber security for one of the biggest marketing agencies in the world. They had petabytes of data to contend with, multiple layers of redundancy. Theyve been able to do this. The problem is that accurately analyzing that amount of data to distinguish possible patterns that MIGHT lead to discovering someone that is willing to murder a CEO is a herculean task. People can snap at any point anon. The only way to go through all of that would be through AI... except AI confidently bullshits. Because as you have pointed out, it isnt intelligent and doesnt actually understand anything.
>>730877701how old? but probably not. nobody's paying out the nose for DDR3 and older except for collectors and enthusiasts.
>>730877756It does make shit up. There have been times when I dropped a whole manga chapter RAW text on them and instead of """""translating"""""" it it created a completely new chapter.
>>730878310>nobody's paying out the nose for DDR3 and olderDamn, thought as much but oh well. Most of my stuff is old save for a quick working laptop I got in 2021
>>730878269>effectively wrong information said confidentlyIt's not "confidently", it's not intelligence, for it it's just another string of data just like any others. For the guy that let his AI agent delete his system32 and then got mad at it and it started apologizing, the "apologizing words" were just the next predicted string of data just like deleting system32 was the next string of data. Somehow in its cache of values, deleting system32 was there, somehow that guy asked something that erred closed to a string of data that deletes system32. Since it is not intelligence, it has no self-awareness and it cannot create, hence the need to massive amount of RAM and storage for the copied data it will process.>And how are they going to analyze said data to distinguish between John the 13 year old making some cheeky bantz online and John the guy that is actually getting unhinged enough to actually do something?They are just going to do it, I never said it would work, they are going to train the AI regardless, they are going to buy all the RAM and electricity regardless.I don't think this is really to stop crimes anyway, this is purely to spy on the minds of people to better control and placate them, they are going to know more, or at least think they know more, instead of having to do surveys. And I do think LLMs can do this subtle task that past spying methods could not. I mean, you've seen people having meetings and having the AI build a summary right? Even if they make mistakes, they are still going to use LLMs for this.
>>730878269>John the 13 year old making some cheeky bantz online and John the guy that is actually getting unhinged enough to actually do something?13 year old John said "in minecraft" so it's okay
>>730877319Repossess military bases and hand global hegemony over to China for absolutely nothing in return.Imagine completely overturning the world order because one pedophile needed to manufacture a continuous string of distractions from the fact that he fucked children.
>>730878352No it copied it from it's large memory of data, it applied its value algorithm to guess the next value. It didn't create or "lied", it did exactly what it's supposed to do. The fact that it did not aligned with your wishes is just happenstance, in the same way that when it does align, it feels as if it has emotions, but it never had.When you computer tries to boot up and it bugs out, does it "makes stuff up"? No it just went along with what it's supposed to do, if whatever component or even a malicious virus changed some value or any other happenstance happened, the computer didn't make stuff up, computers cannot even be random, did you know that? Any random() function is not true random, it cannot make stuff up, it just goes along with its processes.
>>730879418I'm sure the bases can defend themselves long enough for the ICBMs to start raining over Berlin and Brussels.
