The more h-games I play, the more i realize i have not seen even a single one be able to hit all threee of these requirementsIt's always either good gameplay, but art and/or fetish is shit, good art and fetish, but the game itself sucks (either in how hard it is to get an h-scene to happen, or as a game itself due to reasons), or other combinationsAre there ANY h-games out there that manage to hit all three of these points?
>>730857162Yephttps://akanetr dot github dot io/devil_sword/There's one
>>730857162I'm fine with basically serviceable gameplay (better than none), tolerable fetish, and good artwork/art style. Dohna Dohna was kind of like that for me.An H-game that's excellent at all three at the same time? I've never played one like that.
>>730857162Can't you discuss this pointless garbage at the dedicated hentai board? >>>/h/
>>730857162Pregmod>b-but no art you can generate slop if you want to, i knowExactly.
If the fetish isn't right it's like, what are we even doing here. Maybe you guys just have a gaming fetish if you play a lot of these.
>>730857424>please discuss video games on this not games board thanks
for me it's karyn's prison and demon deals (and desu neither has good art really)I miss how in the old days some programmer would make an actually good game by stealing hentai art and no one really cared
>>730857162Art is not important. Just use text only.Sadly, good gameplay plus good fetishes has never been done.
>>730857162Good gameplay isn't a necessity for H-games. The gameplay just needs to be unobtrusive and serviceable, even if it's not necessarily fun. Gameplay is ultimately only there to drip-feed the player new H-scenes and animations, and fill in the downtime between them. If I'm playing a H-game for any reason, it's because it has fappable art and lolis, and not because it's fun or engaging like I'd want a regular game to be.
>>730858270>doesn't want to play >plays the game instead of browsing panda or something
>>730857162BS2>b-butI like the chicken scratches.
RPGmaker was a mistake
>>730858270Nigeria why not just look at porn at that point. Even reading some doujinshi will give you a better story/dialog if thats what you want and there's the upside of not needing to play some shitty rpgmaker.
>>730857162For me, it's Monster Mind and Polidog Patrol.I'd say Grove too if it was finished, which should be the fourth point of the triangle.
>>730857882Art is the most important thing
>>730858495I didn't say that H-games should have no gameplay -- just that H-games don't need to have complex or fun gameplay to be good H-games.The gameplay in a H-game is obviously necessary, but it's best when it's simple, elegant, and interwoven with the porn. Lost Life is a good example of this, since its one and only mechanic (touching sim) ties in neatly and unobtrusively with its porn. In contrast, heavy-handed gameplay without enough porn is detrimental to the most important and distinguishing quality of H-games: their fappability. Daisenka (picrel) is a marked example of this, since while it features art from Takorin, it only has 1 porn anim loop per character, which is only unlocked on a game over after slogging through the deathly boring Vampire Survivors gameplay.Gaming is fundamentally an interactive medium, which would make H-games "interactive porn". I'd much rather the "porn" part be emphasized, with interactive elements only present to bolster the porn (like with LL) than detract from it (like with Daisenka). While they can be fun regular games, I don't consider a game that neglects H in favor of intrusive or ham-fisted gameplay a good H-game.>>730859000>why not just look at porn at that pointTouching loli boobs in Lost Life is different from reading a Henreader doujinshi, since I'm an active participant in the porn and can shape how things play out in the former. That's the appeal of H-games, what with them being interactive porn and all.
>>730857162Yes, try Queens Casino
>>730857162Mille Fille's beat em upsYou're welcome
>>730857162h-games arent supposed to have good gameplay they are supposed to have multiple animations that you can beat off to as an alternative to a media player on repeat so all three of your points are wrong and you dont understand the purpose at all. If a h-game has good gameplay it's no longer a h-game it's just a shitty video game
the gameplay and art should be intertwined for a ludogoon experience where good = fappable
>>730858713Honestly i don't see the issue with the art style. It worked for game's favor and gave it a unique look and charm.
>>730857162Tobihime is really fun and has some unique gameplay
>>730861085Simplicity or complexity has nothing to do with the gameplay quality. Pong is just moving the platform, tetris has movement and rotation. Both are as simple as they get, but the gameplay is good. If we take something more complex, like touching - it should be precise, responsive and accurate. Most people wouldn't bother with a game that has sluggish controls and if you tried touching a belly, but the game detected you've touched breasts and glitched your hand into the body even fetishists wouldn't bother.
i am trying to make my own porn game but i have no idea what i am doing even if thats pretty much 90% of games i play.Every gamedev tutorial suggests that your prototype should be fun even without art but h games are all about art and fetish.. so how do i understand if the porn game works?do i use pics from boorus and check if i get a boner while i play?and ignore if the gameplay sucks?
>>730857162Recommend me games>Good gameplayLifesim with jrpg/rpg mechanics>Good fetishSis[+loli] incest (step is fine I guess)>Good artSelf explanatorySome games that I found that kinda match these are;-Monochrome fantasy-A simple life with my unobtrusive sister-Sickly days and summer traces
>>730857162eris dysnomia ticked all the boxes for meit was just too short
>>730862959thank you mr crab
Bros I loved Unholy Maiden and I think it fits the bill hereAny recommendations on what I should play next?
>>730862546NTA, but what you're talking about is gibberish. Gameplay quality in a H-game is very different to what I expect from a real game. Because the goal of a H-game is to make me cum. The gameplay is only there to add context and pacing between H scenes.I guess the closest I can come to explaining it is JRPGs. I don't give a fuck about the gameplay in a JRPG, I have played exactly one JRPG ever that was mildly interesting from a gameplay perspective. You play them for the story, and you play H-games for the H.
>Good fetishAnything that isn't vanilla or vanilla adjacent is a good fetishAwful triangle
when the average h-gamer thinks the pinnacle of gameplay is running around maps chasign heart symbols mixed in with turn based combat, your trifecta can never have ''good'' gameplay
>balatro but h-gamewhy isn't this real yet
The greatest h-game ever made is futanari dragon quest 3 by alons factory. It has zero gameplay.
>>730857162>Are there ANY h-games out there that manage to hit all three of these points?Friendship with Benefits.
>>730857162Karryn's Prison is the only one I can think of, but it trends more towards gameplay.
>>730864147>Awful triangleIt's actually a great triangle because it made /v/ talk about video games
>>730857327>Javascript 100%Hold the fuck up
>>730857162secret flasher manaka
>>730864147pretty sure OP is just mad echidna wars is still so much better than nearly everything else out there
With AI it can improve
>>730857162Art needs to be just above stick figure tier, and maybe not even that in certain cases. Gameplay is there to make me have fun in between h-scenes and can make the game worth playing in order to avoid it existing solely for me to jerk off and immediately quit. Good fetish makes up for bad or avarage art. But no matter how good the art and gameplay are, it won't make me play something with dogshit fetishes like snuff, scat or ntr.
>>730857882>Just use text only.Yeah, and be sure to draw yourself a lavender bubble bath and light some scented candles for you schlick session sis.
>>730875459lol
>>730861085I mostly agree but I think there's some merit to gameplay existing for context as well rather than just needing to be out of the way. For example, a game that captures power fantasy of (you) becoming a demigod and earning a harem might be enhanced by even something as simple as stat checks ala cyoa games/some VNs.
>>730857162But Sinistar 2 exists anon
>>730857162Good fetish is the most important part because why would I be playing that specific h game if the fetish didn't line up with meArt just needs to not be terrible, or be text only. As long as it's not ugly I don't careGameplay is a joke, I'm here to jack off not engage in deep gameplay mechanics. The more barrier there is between getting from sex scene to sex scene the more frustrating the game is to the point of just dropping it entirely
>>730875459>women can rotate an apple in their heads>anon can't Is that something to be proud of?
>>730877583>he needs text to conjure an appleText only for smut is shit because it's the unwanted middle ground between the low effort of having someone else make my visuals and the high effort but tailor made content I make up in my own mind. If I want to rely on pure imagination I'd rather be the one steering the ship because the intricacies of any scenario will be better tuned to my preferred fantasies and fetishes. Otherwise I'd just recline in a hammock while the captain handles the navigation and some cute girls feed me grapes. Text only is like being the dude scrubbing the toilets onboard. You don't control the destination AND you have to do the work. Your only agency was in which ship you chose to board.
>>730857162RJ01431277Hits all three.
>>730877583>>women canlol
>>730877583how can something without an internal voice rotate something in their head
I enjoyed Take Me to the Dungeon's hand-management gameplay so much that I would forget about the pornography until I got to a boss or event that triggered a sex scene.The sex itself was not super interactive, just a scene progressing button, but I want my h-games to have some game to them (preferably good game) to justify being more than a gallery viewer.
Any h game where girls swallow?
>>730858270/threadGameplay purists in H threads are the kind of people to order a salad in McDonald's. The salad is unhealthy as fuck but in their mind it iooks healthy so it's okay. Mentally ill
>>730857162>Red = shit not worth a look up>Orange-Red = scene look up/gallery mode fodder>orange = play unit bored>yellow = complete one ending >greenish yellow = complete all endings>green = 100% game
>>730879505For me it's that h games have certain gameplay that you can't get with any sfw titles. So I go looking for h games for gameplay, 9/10 h-games I wouldn't fap too. I'll gladly sink hours into playing them though.
"Just watch porn" doesnt work because porn can never directly jerk the player off, it can only increase your arousal so as to make jerking off more pleasureable. If arousal is the goal of porn, then h games are the highest form of porn because the interactivity of the games forms a direct emotional connection between the players choices and their result (sex). Because arousal is the goal, gameplay which is too cerebral or involved is almost worse than poor art because it takes the player out of their horny state. If the gameplay is too good, the actual goal of an h game is delayed or putright prevented. But since the players control, or lack of it for female mc games, is what makes them more arousing than regular porn, you still need some gameplay. Therefore, the best h game are simulation games which quickly put choices before the player that lead to sex, and then have further consequences and alternative paths because of their choice. Rpg maker games are usually terrible because the quality of turn based gameplay is increased with complexity, but such complex thinking makes the player less horny. Simple combat also delays the sex and usually has little to do with it unless the player loses. The best parts of these games is always outside of the combat and in scripted, sexual events, because they require choice and not complexity. Action games are also terrible in achieving the real goal of an h game because they require so much focus that, even if the characters are naked, it doesnt register as arousap. Again, complexity makes the gameplay fun but hampers the player's arousal. Games like degrees of lewdity, changed to be less grindy and repetitive, would be the theoretical "platonic form" of an h game. They allow player choice, but usually in a sexual context, and their not so complex as to require cerebral thought and diminish the player's arousal.
>>730857162This game is a complete bottom left on the triangle. Amazing pixel art and animation with detailed locations. But it's all wasted on gameplay so bad that the entire thing would've been better as a pure scene viewer (which it fails at too because the Gallery is designed terribly as well). I tried the winter sequel and it was the same shit and I assume the dev's newest game makes the same mistakes.
>>730857663Don't reply to the wannabe janny, he does it for free squared.
>>730877109It has great art but okay overall on fetishes and gameplay.
>>730862825Do what you like.
I wish we lived in a more degenerate society so that porn games had way more years of both indie and aaa dev time put into them so that we could have more complex sex mechanics. I get jealous of other genres who's game play has been iterated on over decades of gradual improvement.
>>730886660>aaa dev
>>730857162For me Princess Sacrifice has a good balance but it has turn based combat and I understand that can be a turn-off for some anons
>>730857162modded Skyrim
>>730857327Your game sucks bro. I just skipped the tutorial and now I have no odea what is going on!
I went all-in on bottom left.
>>730888690Right is disgusting furfaggotry but I would fuck the shit out of peppercat
With AI you might have a really good H-Game that has all three points
>>730889187AI art is not good enough to reach the bottom left YET. It is too generic/obvious, At best, AI art reaches a 7.5 out of ten, though it is typically more a 6.
I can't believe the lack of super sentai hentai games. It's a pure void.
>>730891852>AI art reaches a 7.5 out of tenIt reaches a 0/10 at best, jeet.
>>730890767This generally makes the most sense because usually it just means the absence of a fetish which is perfectly acceptable. It's only the presence of a bad fetish that ruins everything.
