Wow! Cool how such a passionate group of gamers got to see what happens on the inside!I think it's because they really love video games!
Maybe Rockstar should just follow basic labour laws? And if they hired a bunch of people they didn't actually want to employ, then maybe they should review their hiring practises and be less exploitative and actually follow basic labour laws? This is 100% on them and is easily avoidable, and if anything the penalties aren't harsh enough. It shouldn't just be considered a calculated cost.
>>730859879I have a family member who works in R* at Edinburgh, and he told me that crunch is completely voluntary. Why would you need unions if everyone who crunches is enjoying it? No one asked for a union, so it's okay to bust it, ultimately, if it puts the company at risk. PMG is and NGO, and NGOs are just arms of government and top-down control over our freedoms, including the freedom to run a games company flexibly and self-governed, I hope everyone can see that.
>Rockstar astroturfing thread
>PMG This apparently stands for either "Paper Money Grading," or "Post Master General," neither of which are video games.
>>730859981>No one asked for a union, so it's okay to bust itIf no one asked for a union, there'd be no union to bust.
>>730862510No. Fuck you.
You don't have to defend one of the biggest game companies in the world to /v/ Mr Rockstar man.
>>730863895Unions need people to form and join them. If no one asked for a union, there'd be no union. That's just the truth.
Isn’t that the guy who complained that Valve is too male and white?
>>730864292He actually has to because it is his job to stop any class awareness from being developed by shitting the place up with neonazi propaganda.
>>730862510An incredibly concise reply, worthy of Socrates.
>>730864360>>730864292>Nice job fellow israelbros. We're really "marxing" /v/ up. Think it'll catch on with /v/ coomers? heh heh heh
Look at all of this pathetic samefag grovelling to defend fucking Rockstar of all companies. I hope they pay you well for this OP.
>>730864334People didn't "Need" a union. They kept hearing about them because of social contagion propped up by people who want to sabotage the industry. They're angry that the game industry disrupted Hollywood (which, read up on the origins of the film industry) and not having part of the share. ESG didn't work so now they're ballistic. Why do you think Geoff's game awards lack of security got exposed by a jewish kid who then went on to signal-boost Schreier? Why do you think the only "eligible" member of minnmax is involved in the ESG/censorship consultant groups like SBI?It's because they want this profit machine culled for themselves.
>>730859981>I have a family member who works in R* at EdinburghAnd I have an uncle that works for Nintendo.
Unions are neither good or bad, they are just a thing. Like CEOs or Shareholders. To make anything you will need both, but unions balances out the power to stop either side from making stupid decisions without the other party being able to suggest otherwise. Right now the ball of retardedness has been in the of company's court for too long and we all suffer for it.
>>730865187The problem is there is nothing to be done to a union once it gets corrupted. People that care literally get killed trying to fix corruption of unions and get turned into a meme (i.e. Jimmy Hoffa)
>>730864681Unions don't form themselves. You can't just say that no one at Rockstar were asking for Unions when that's not the truth. Are you even a real person? You quoted "need" but in a way that gave it a categorically different meaning than in the post you replied to.
>>730866239I'm not saying that no one have literally asked for them. I'm just saying that nobody would've asked for them if they hadn't been mindraped for the past 15 years by GamerGate rhetoric and psy-ops that are meant to spread ideas that knowingly cripples how the industry has been able to prop itself up like it has.Of course you have to meet everything with proportionate means. If the industry has gotten too large, you may have to regulate it, but my viewpoint is that if you added unions to 1995's game industry there would've been investor flight and the momentum would've been lost.So much of what everyone liked about video games that created its fascination is because companies were able to get away with harsh practices and crunching those numbers. Unions means that all games will end up being indie-sized because the risks and bureaucracy cripples everything else.It's not just about employees getting more salary. Unions creep into other things, but the salary laws cause a lot of risk for companies too. You can't just let it exist in a vaccuum of 20 Rockstar employees. If you don't bust 'em, you end up with unions being required industry-wide, and then you can kiss ambitious games goodbye, and enjoy 2000 Hollow Knight clones, and probably not even that.
>>730859981>crunch is completely voluntaryall crunch is totally voluntary *wink*wink* ;)
>>730859981> and he told me that crunch is completely voluntaryAh of course voluntary unpaid overtime
>>730866552>If you don't bust 'em, you end up with unions being required industry-wide, and then you can kiss ambitious games goodbye, and enjoy 2000 Hollow Knight clones, and probably not even that.You say this like anyone is making anything even vaguely ambitious anymore.Unions can't make things worse, it's already so fucking bad none of these companies are making anything of any value.
>>730866552Good unions are goodShit unions are shitIt's simple.
Rockstar shill or just a dumb American?
