iframing attacks with a roll:>ugh....rollslop fatigue...yikes...iframing attacks with a parry:>YASSSSS, THIS SO MUCH THIS, WE ARE LIES OF PEAK NOW Explain this phenomenon
>>730860262roll looks stupidthat's literally it
there are people out there who think this is better than dark souls
if your parrying in P your playing it wrongyour supposed to play without lockon so your have free movement and so your can sprintdodge backwards? your lose stamina, your have animation cooldown, your cant punish the enemy, your take damage because dodge is really really really badparry? well sure your can but your will not do it consistently for 50 hourssprint backwards? it always works, and your can then punish with charge or sprint attack. its really simple game.
>>730860262Is this game worth 15€? Keys go around that price.
>>730860356This lmaoRolling through attacks looks ass
>>730860550Some say its combat bests fromsoft and some that it's linear boss rush slop You'll have to make up your own mind
When will gamers move past "see red light, press button" gameplay?
Lies of P has dodging tho
>>730861538not against bosses
>>730861153alrightsuggest an alternative
>>730861816Memorize red light, hit button later
>>730861816SOULFUL POSITIONING BASED GAMEPLAY
>>730860506you can do that in every soulslike but its slow and boring as shit
>>730860262Easy.Modo.
>>730860262You literally can choose to deal with each attack in the way you prefer. Parry, i-framing it, blocking if you can't really time it right or just getting out of the way. Best Souls combat.
>>730860506>if you're parrying in parryslop you are playing wrong???
>>730861985ugh...sovl...
>>730862590your not very high iq to understand.....
>>730861816I think gamers are ready for the concept of overlapping attack patterns that have one solution that beats them allThey'll have to develop the spatial awareness to know where attacks can't possibly be instead of where they currently are, and use their already honed skills of timing to capitalize
>>730860356>>730860853This. I'd love a souls type game where you actually dodge and avoid getting hit by weaving through attacks, maybe with multiple dodges for multiple attack types. But if all we'll get is iframeslop, at least parries look cooler.
>>730863439I think Sifu has dodging that involves either ducking low or jumping high, and Absolver has a 4 directional dodge as well as attacks with evasive hitboxes
>>730861816Walking slowly and methodically throught tight corridors shields up. Like Dark Souls used to be.Before they changed it.
>>730861985Running circles around the boss to wait for an opening isn't exactly an engaging gameplay loop.
>>730860506>add defensive options and lock on but make them dogshit on purpose, as a jokemhm, is this the "meticolously designed best soulslike ever" that nonces have been glazing so mouch about?
>>730866354>take any shitpost as truth because it sticks it to some game you never playeduuuuuuummmmm, you okay sista?
>>730860262Parrying encourages proactive gameplay and pacing the fight at your own terms and rewards player choice and aggressionPure Iframe dodging creates a fight of passivity waiting for the boss to do its thing so you finally have your turn
>>730866859idk kind of sounds bullshit in both instance how passive you are is determined by the boss, not you
Sometimes you have to use a little bit of dodgeslop in your parryslop
>>730867018It's a much more passive gameplay to be forced to reposition yourself and wait for the boss' attacks to be over then to stand your ground and nullify their attack with a timed button press thus giving you the opportunity to attack much quicker. Or at least, it's how you can give some determination to the player. The only way to do that entirely would be to like, give the player infinite poise so the player can ignore the boss' attacks entirely but then there'd be little challenge but to manage your own health bar
>enemy does 5 move combo attack>ugh finally my turn to attack once >haha nope there goes one third of your health because it's actually an 8 move combo with a delayed attack in the middleEat my ass
>>730867256Again, that highly depends on the attack Sometimes dodging gives you initiative much faster than parrying something, because the positional advantage means you don't have to move additional distance to attack or can start attacking before the attack is doneSometimes parrying something puts you in heavy ass blockstun and you just have to sit there as the boss readies up some other bullshitA good game makes you think about both instead of just being "press X to iframe"
>>730867447should've known
I choose to poise through everything like a scholar
>>730867447never should've come here
>>730861985>boss just stands there for a minute>doesn't even try to attack before turning
>>730867132oooooo here comes the hotsteppa
>>730868062its an unc game the monsters take 10 seconds rotating in place
>>730868397MH died with GU
>>730868062More foresight than a fromdrone ever experienced
>>730860550if you have no taste you'll enjoy it
>>730867447>boss input reads on combo finish to see if you are healingElden Ring was a mistake
>>730866354Ah, but then you've hit the nail upon the head you clever man, you! They don't actually believe it is a meticulously designed and best soulslike ever, they just like the twink and aesthetic. The game itself quickly falls apart, and the most praise people can give it outside of the art style is that some, emphasis on some, of the boss fights are fun. No one praises its level design, because it has nothing but hallways to speak of. No one praises the writing, because the characters somehow speak more but say less than even the average Souls NPC. Some faggots pretend to like the singular Emotion, but they ignore it is musically out of place for the supposed year. Some faggots pretend that the handle and blade system is revolutionary, but it accomplishes less than just having unique, well designed weapons in the first place.Lies of P is not praised and hyped because it is actually an amazing game. It is praised and hyped because the fans of Lies of P like how it looks and it is an adequate game, so its fans feel they can hype it safely without suffering too many slings and arrows of it being called shit and therefore hurting their egos.
>>730860506You're forgetting BLOCK. The game is built around you blocking most of the attacks and parrying a few you can't block, that's the gameplay. Dodge in LoP sucks balls and too many enemies will punish you for dodging anyway because they have auto-aim combos that last longer than your stamina.I have no idea why this shit is compared to Bloodborne, a game that literally makes fun of blockshitters
>>730869119>faggots pretend that the handle and blade system is revolutionary, but it accomplishes less than just having unique, well designed weapons in the first placeBut ummm...it has both...
>>730869119I think the general consensus among the non mentally ill is that the combat is better than fromslop, the exploration worse and the customization is a sidegrade that depends on your preference.
Sex with 8ft tall Laxasia
>>730869492>combat is better than fromslopIn what possible way is it better? Dodge straight up doesn't work against a lot of enemies here because they punish you with endless auto-aim combos and you don't have enough stamina to dodge every hit in those combos. If all you do is block and parry, maybe that's a great game for you. But to me a game of blocking and parrying is extremely boring, I need to move around, I want positioning to come into play. I unironically prefer Steelrising to this, and From games are on a whole different level compared to both
>>730866859>Parrying encourages proactive gameplay and pacing the fight at your own terms and rewards player choice and aggressionYou sound like a fagParrying encourages standing in front of enemies and pressing L1
>>730870124shocked by the lack of porn of her
I found this game really fucking boring and stale honestly. Making "game" a souls like isn't a recipe for making something good.
>>730867447We are very sorry to hear about your frustration. We will patch the game to make it so the boss tells you exactly which attack they are going to do and how to avoid it. If avoiding the attacks is also too frustrating, there will also be a new option to simply ask the boss to stop attacking you so you can defeat them comfortably with whatever method and speed you want.We hope you will now be able to enjoy the game!
>>730870359>Dodge straight up doesn't work against a lot of enemies here because they punish you with endless auto-aim combosOk so you don't play and are just the knight in shining armor trying to defend your dear princessThe tracking is significantly lower than in Elden Ring
>>730860262Games art direction is actually trash, tired of you fags pretending Victorian era outfits and hats are cool. It’s almost as gay as steam punk. Besides that the combat is good i liked it, I ended up playing parry slop though. A lot of vtards have brain damage
I want to do a funny meme but I hate this genre so much. Standing still or barely moving around while pressing a parry button multiple times to boss attacks, it's the worst and shittiest genre in action games. Rise of the Ronin, Stellar Blade, Wo Long, Khazan, Lies of Shit, all of these games can suck my ass
>>730870359positioning is more real in lies of p than in elden ringin elden ring the enemies will jump mid air, freeze and then rotate towards your position because miyazaki is a hack
>>730871594Don’t forget to add dmc, nioh and ng, you can’t possible pretend to like those games if you hate le roll slop
>>730871616Lol Elden ring gives you all the tools to do 10000000 million damage, it just takes a creative mind to utilize the items and spells. Mofo put in so much shit and fags like you will avoid it like the plague cause your heart is set on having a shitty experience so you can genuinely post how much you hate the game
>>730871690I don't hate rollslop at all and I think it's a completely different genre from the games I listed. I hate multi-parry slop. And you are just some mouth-breather if you think Nioh deserves to be either on the rollslop or parryslop list.
>like souls games in general but hate parrying>enjoy this game's aesthetic and straightforward exploration>turn down the difficulty on 70% of bosses due to their autistic patterns and fixation on parriesIt's no Bloodborne but it was worth crashing through once I guess. Thanks, PS+.
>>730871785>it just takes a creative mind to utilize the items and spellssummoning a phantom and casting spells that stimulating, huh?
>>730872150Not a single boss requires parries, the game even gives you ways to buff sidesteps because it knows some people are unfathomably autistic
>>730871541>The tracking is significantly lower than in Elden Ring>If I compare this one attack that I happen to have a webm of against the one attack I'm thinking of in Elden Ring because I'm a disingenuous cunt
>>730869125Yeah, the key with lies if P is trying to parry every attack but also keep pressing the button in case you missed to only take guard damage that you can easily recover if you are aggressive. Only attack I went for running from the enemy was Romeo's 12-string flame attack
>>730872225yeah you can just run under all of the attacks in that webm without blocking a thingwant a pretty recording of that too?
>>730872326you want a pretty recording of walking around everything morgott does or are you going to discuss the game on sensible terms?
>>730872150There are a lot of attacks in lies of P that will put you in a lot of knockback if you parry them, or put you too far away from the bossBoth dodging and parrying is useful
>>730872409Sure go for it
For me it's deflectslop
>>730872567w-what's the different between deflect slop and parry slop
>>730872326>dodging straight up doesn't work>it does, pretty reliably >well what about against the universally accepted worst boss in the game?>yeah it does there too >START BEING REASONABLE
>>730861153>>730861985I recorded this webm. The Tigrex's face slightly lowering down is my "red light" signal
>>730872475>Sure go for itAs we all know, if you can make a webm of something then that anecdote is definitely representative of real gameplay and so anons can form a whole thesis out of one 40s clip without having played the game
>>730871541>>730872225The animations in this game look like atrocious dogshit.Everything just slides around like it's on ice and rotates in place like it's on tank tracks.
>>730872158lol what do you really expect? What action games are you playing that blow Elden ring so far out the water you’ll act this smug? I’m waiting for your response
>>730872158Niqqaaaaah outed himself with that strategy You can do many things which include your build. There are tons of status weapons and the game isn’t meant to be played as a purist class. You were never meant to just put on your favorite sword and armor and fight to the end, there are tons of bosses where mixing up your equipment and finding other strategies against that specific boss works better.I guarantee most people who hate these games hate that they have to swap gear change items upgrade new weapons to deal with new boss encounters instead of using the 2h sword they picked up 20 hours ago
>>730873425Try playing nioh sis
>>730873672Iv beaten nioh, and it has its own problems. I’m not hating on nioh cause i actually enjoy it and im excited for the third one. My core problems with Nioh 2 are enemy variety and level design. The combat is fantastic but once you play for 15 hours there’s nothing new the game can show you.
>>730873764Idk you just seem more addicted to seething than playing anything
>>730874024You’re the faggot who can’t just high five someone who likes the same games as you. I’m not the one lurking threads to talk shit about games, I’m clearly here defending good games.
>>730874205Bro is bragging about elden ring being a better game because you can azure comet a boss before it can do anything, it's laughable
>>730873026I tried to recreate your clip but I unfortunately run into the problem of that sequence of attacks literally not being possible if you dodge it :( Literally getting punished for parrying unnecessarily
>>730860262Wanna breed that twink though...
>>730860262Rolling as a defensive mechanic is not "slop" and neither is timed guards, parry, et.
>matching the timing of the enemy's attacks so you can defend while standing your ground instead of spamming rolls or turtling behind a shieldWhy is this a problem?
>>730879179It's rhythmslop
Just finished Overture DLC last night. Honestly one of the better Soulslikes, liked it more than AI Limit. Also parrying is a fun mechanic.
>>730879524It's a soulslike better than some souls
>>730879179You're matching the timing of an enemy attack with rolling too. Both are acceptable ways of defense in an action game that are similar but have slightly different nuance.
>>730860262There is too much twink porn of P.
>>730879524The second boss in Overture, the blue lady, was insanely good. I'm surprised they didn't save it for later.
>>730879912Most of them were pretty goodThe only awful fight was the alligator
>>730860262Was LoP really the perfect game? What can Fromsoft learn from it?
>>730880802The exploration could clearly be better
>>730860506Lol parrying is encouraged>builds up stagger damage, leading to huge riposte attack>destroys enemy weaponsIirc there is also an upgrade that cause it to regenerate your own recoverable health, not sure though
>>730860356/thread
>>730881019The game was never about exploring and doesn't have to be.
>>730881298Ok if it's not about exploring remove it cus it's a slog
>>730860506Parrying had huge advantages that make or break boss fights, you aren't playing the game right if you aren't parrying bosses into knockdown chains.
>>730870124i just beat the first boss of the dlc and ive come to realize that the alchemists must have a thing for blue chicks
>>730880802My main problem with Lies of P is the enemy variety. In the base game there's so many areas which are 80% generic "hollow" puppets or carcasses. Same thing with Shadows of the Erdtree, there's way too many generic scadu-hollow enemies.
>>730881320>Remove what it doesn't have
>>730882284I thought that too with Lies of P. I was glad the DLC mixed it up a bit with the zoo animals and the like, but it's a noticeable issue in the basegame. I feel like there's a decent amount of enemies in it still, but a lot of them are just used so sparingly when they could have been used to mix things up more. I don't even think it lacks in enemies, this is a pretty good amount, but it just rarely uses what it has and half the time a more unique and challenging enemy is present it doesn't respawn, so you just end up spending the whole game going up against one basic enemy after another.
>>730882284Complete opposite in the dlc, there's at least 5 regular enemies that you only get to fight once
>>730860262deflecting attacks with your weapon is cooler than rolling and in most cases gives you the opportunity to counterattacktherefore it's more satisfying
>>730870124>>730870960LoP has a bunch of hotties but no one gives a shit enough for r34
>>730879524I got bored fighting that fucking alligator. How do I beat him?
>>730884156You...le dodge to the side
>>730860262it's overrated garbage just like e33
>>730884268He whacks you when you do
>>730884156Skip that nigger with cheat engine.
I love Lies of P
>>730884523He shouldn't if your timing is goodThe only challenge is being cornered, which happens if you parry him instead of strafing
>>730860262>Explain this phenomenonyou’re gay
>>730884650They really gave gunblade the gunlance blast dash from rise, kino
>>730884156Just beat him... I'm a shitter and got him down first go
>>730884156Literally just move left.
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