boobs with icicles

>>730864035
1 but 2 is cool too.

2 is the better game while 1 has better mods

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>>730864035
Why yes, I know that Q2 is the best Quake, how did you guess?

Why, Quake III of course.

>>730864035
QI
>Alien, LSD
QII
>Aliens, Beer

what to debate? 1 has NIN soundtrack, cool and unique enemies, memorable atmosphere. Sound design is only rivaled by quake 3

quake 2 was boring generic slog. quake 4 was much better than this

>>730865206
>quake 4 was much better than this
bait

If you use the energy vest in 2 you cannot die

Personally, I prefer the first game. Too bad the only Quake reboot we ever got was Doom The Dark Ages.

how does quake still get attention to it? you'd think it would have run its course by now.

>>730864035
More of an IQ test than a debate.
Quake 1 is an extremely deep game in a way that most people don't appreciate, even most boomer shooter fans. Its enemy and weapon design lends so much weight to a player's positioning and movement throughout a fight it's kind of absurd. Even a slight change of a enemy's position or level geometry can completely change how a fight plays out.

Seriously consider the effects a single ogre can have on the player, and how the player can affect the ogre in turn. Its melee can be baited easily to nullify the ogre's attack, but that involves getting close and now you can't use your most efficient weapons (explosives) without hurting yourself. At range it'll grenade you, which is consistently accurate so where you're standing will determine its path. The grenade will bounce off walls behind you, so the precise geometry of the room you're in becomes important. This pretty much guarantees that you need to mentally track where the grenade will be behind you, and where it'll bounce, for every grenade fired at you. A grenade coming to rest then becomes area denial, on top of being a projectile to dodge.
This one basic enemy attacking alone places like five or six influences on how you move. It's just an ogre, it's not *hard*, but these small influences stack up quickly, especially when combined with other, different enemies. Even Quake's weapons are generally more positional than others, with the high importance of explosives and the lack of a typical all rounder gun. The whole game is built around this kind of dynamic, positionally driven enemy interaction and basically no other FPS works this way beyond the most surface level.

>>730866175
Because it's fun.

>>730864293
Unreal Tournament*

The sound design or great, but the music in Quake is extremely overrated.

>>730865459
say what you want but quake 4 had body horror biopunk aesthetic on lock and cutscenes were cool

I bought quake 1 and 2 on switch and was raping people with gyro controls online

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>>730866207
Based. Quake 1’s remaster and its DLC on nightmare is one of my favorite gaming experiences. I don’t give a shit for the multiplayer. The single player campaigns never get appreciation.

I've been without the Quake soundtrack in-game for so long that now that I finally hear it it kinda weirds me out.

>>730864035
Back in the day I used to get so much shit on IRC for saying that Q1 was better than Q2. It took 30 years but it’s nice to see I’m finally vindicated.
>>730865206
Yes
>>730866207
based and doing biplanar trigonometry in his head in realtime pilled

T R E S S P A S S E R !

>>730867530
>Back in the day I used to get so much shit on IRC for saying that Q1 was better than Q2. It took 30 years but it’s nice to see I’m finally vindicated.
Huh, Quake 2 was always deemed as inferior to 1

>>730867679
Everybody I knew in the late 90’s was sucked in by the flashy graphics and the Arnold Schwartzenslop railgun, plus the fact that you could use a girl skin.
personally I was always annoyed by how orange everything was, plus the way explosives were nerfed compared to 1
although the bfg10k was pretty fun in multi I guess

>>730868178
You were still in your dad's nutsack when Q2 came out, zoomie.

>>730868247
I wish I was a zoomer, maybe my knees wouldn’t hurt so much and I wouldn’t randomly lose feeling in the fingers on my right hand.

>>730864035
2 is better in every single way.

>>730868178
>plus the fact that you could use a girl skin
Trannyslop.

>>730869543
I always said you could tell a lot about a guy by whether he used the male skin or the female skin
it’s not even a matter of wanting to see a girl’s ass, this is a first-person-only game

>>730864112
balls with nails through them

bump

>>730872632
did anybody else play Qtest before quake 1 was released? It was a long time ago but I remember the dragon was cool (but didn’t have any programming). Also the one sound that all the monsters played when you spawned them in always sounded like Rocky from Rocky and Bullwinkle to me.

3 > 4 > 2 > 1 > live > champions

>>730873145
As for doom
3 > 1 > 2 > 64 > 2016 > eternal > final > master levels > dark ages

>>730873218
For wolfenstein
Rtcw > 2k9 > 3d > spear > old blood > youngblood > new order > new colossus

>>730873307
For serious sam
2 > 2nd > 1st > next > 4 > 3 > siberian

>>730873456
For cod
Uo > 1 > 2 > big red one > 4 > finest hour > waw > 3
Rest are not cod but shoutout to infinite warfare for doing something different at least

>>730873604
For halo
Odst > 3 > 1 > 2 > reach > 4 > 5 > infinite

>>730873705
For unreal
Tournament > tournament 2004 > 1 > tournament 2003 > 2 > tournament 3

>>730873782
For battlefield
Bad company > 2 > 3 > vietnam > 1942 > bad company 2 > 2142 > modern combat
Rest don't matter

>>730873889
For star wars
Outcast > academy > dark forces > knight > mysteries

>>730864035
Quake 2 thanks to the remaster is the superior game, and mainly thanks to the mapcenter community
Quake 1 was ruined by Fairweather the sheepfaggot tranny kliq aka slipseer who took over mapping and made everything garbage, and even kicked the creator of trenchbroom out of the community because he didnt agree with their political shit and wanted off quake and videogame talk.

>>730866175
The tranny kliq and their pisscord and youtube fuckbuddies wont stop until they see Doom, HL and Quake II/3A/IV dead for not being quake 1.
Even /vr/ had enough of these faggots

>>730874112
For build
Blood > duke nukem 3d > redneck rampage > shadow warrior > redneck rampage rides again

>>730874245
You're way too invested in drama you fag
Also use a source port for q2

>>730874245
>Quake 1 was ruined by Fairweather the sheepfaggot tranny kliq aka slipseer who took over mapping and made everything garbage, and even kicked the creator of trenchbroom out of the community because he didnt agree with their political shit and wanted off quake and videogame talk.
qrd?

>>730864035
Official releases Quake is better. Mods and custom maps Quake is so much better it's not even remotely close.

>>730864035
Honestly don't know. Maybe Quake 1, I guess. Doom is better than both.

I always liked Q2 more

t. 37yo

>>730874375
>use a source port for q2
but i use
>Nightdive
>Q2R Pro fork
>Kmq2
get fucked

>>730874404
Long story short
>One tranny furry and his friends took the entire Q1 community by force, he had everyone turn on others, stole the quake mapping community for himself and even became friends with the likes of jehar and others to shill their garbage map jams and such, one being the shitty brutalist jam they did recently, sabotaged maps, shoved political shit in it like all of the tranny rights references on the "xmas" jam 2 yeas ago, and had spirit the quaddicted admin on his side even after he tried to shut all of qd for not giving him extra cookies lover a shitty map he did against motherfucking Ter_Shibboleth, it reached a point spirit went to /vr/ to defend his ass and call us "bigots" for calling him out, and ever since this day that tranny furfag who dresses like a sheep irl, as his buddies, one being a certain Lord(now Lady)Havoc the creator of Darkplaces, made everyone's lives at quake 1 mapping community as miserable as it could be, and he also hates quake 2 and the other quake sequels from the bottom of xhis soul, he hates quake 1 dm to a point all they made even a jam to shit on dm maps, and the cream of the crop, which was the expulsion of Dumptruck_ds the creator of Trenchbroom out of quake 1 community and mapping discord because he called all of them out on the forced political bullshit when the ukranian war began, and even called him of all names they know even "homophobe" and had their shilltuber buddies demonize him.
>It became so fucked up that the community split when tronym died, one side the rational side and the one who had enough of his and slipseer(their circlejerk forum) joined the newly made Quake 2 Map Center Discord, which is now the Quake Map Center for all quake series map development, but mainly focused on quake 2 remastered since paril expanded the limits above what q1 can do, and all nd devs and old fucks are now at map center.

>>730864035
there's no debate. Quake 2 is simply superior in every regard.

>>730864035
Remakes of both in III's engine.

>>730874275
Sorry I took a shower
For deus ex
human revolution > 1 > mankind divided > invisible war > project snowblind > the fall

anyone saying q2 is superior enjoys slow-moving rockets and pea shooters fyi and that's an objective FACT

>>730875742
For fear
1 > extraction > 2 > perseus > 3

>>730875808
For crysis
2 > 1 > warhead > 3

I was a tadpole when Quake 3 came out.
How did the community react when Quake 3 was revealed to be a multiplayer game with no story?
Obviously it ended up becoming a beloved staple of gaming, but was there some initial shock and pushback?

>>730875919
For half life
ep1 > opposing force > 2 > ep2 > 1 > blue shift > lost coast > decay > black mesa > 1 source

>>730875197
I don't know community drama or names, but what's going on with the guys who made stuff like Arcane Dimensions and Alkali? Those are amazing.

>>730876127
For far cry
1 > blood dragon > 2 > instincts evolution > instincts > power gap > 5 > 3 > primal > 4 > 6 > new dawn

>>730876163
AD guy is gone and alkaline is overrated.
Every map those fags at slipseer does now are literally terrible ripoffs what AD did.
AD fucked the community to a point everything has to be AD now.
It was worse than fucking copper

>>730876328
Fuck I'm running out
For turok
2 > 1 > 3 > evolution > rage wars > 2k8 > whatever demasters on steam

>>730876659
For descent
Freespace 2 > freespace > 3 > 1 > 2

>>730876608
>AD guy is gone
But it wasn't one guy. There were a bunch of mappers listed. And what do you mean gone? Like just went dark?

>>730876807
Now I really gotta dig deep
For free radical
Perfect dark > timesplitters future perfect > timesplitters 2 > goldeneye > timesplitters > haze

>>730876848
With tronym gone and dead, the entire community is now under Slipseer's faggotry.
Map Center has delivered better quake 1 maps than them

>>730876608
DOOM 2016 is the real instigator of the problems modern Quake maps have. Because that game is what popularized arena style layouts and fights. Guess when Slopseer starting hijacking the Quake community...

>>730873145
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>>730876659
Absolute garbage taste, holy fucking shit.

>>730877136
Let's see your rankings pussy

>>730877136
Seethe more pisscord fag, go cry to the fag sheep

>>730864035
no competition, Quake II is boring as fuck.

>>730877106
For medal of honor
allied assault > pacific assault > frontline > airborne > underground > 1 > rising sun > 2k10
The rest that didn't make it probably sucks
>>730877202
Thanks bro but I can defend myself hehe

>>730877202
go to bed gay sperg

>>730877136
just ignore that retard's spam

>>730873145
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>>730873782
Amazing takes. But why is Quake Live second to last on the Quake list? Isn't it just an upgraded Quake 3?

>>730864035
Well. Of course is Q2.
Also modded enemy territory QW, I literally have 200hs+

>>730878235
Thanks
>Quake Live second to last
Unnecessary game since q3 exists

>>730878235
>Isn't it just an upgraded Quake 3?
It's a stripped down version of Q3 with some balance changes and you can have advertisements in your map.

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2 > 3 > 1 > 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLGvIgjq20A
Quake 2 ambience is so good

>>730864035
Quake 1, and it's not even close. No real debate to be had.

>>730866493
UT99 for team games, Q3 for high skill ceiling deathmatch.

>>730873889
BC2>3>the rest don't matter with these two existing.

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>>730864035
both are good.
tho i still cant forgive them they made quake champions a fucking hero shooter.

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>>730867643
let me out!

>>730880135
UT has always been infinitely more skill based than Quake.
>BUT MUH FAST!
The only thing Quake has going for it but even then it's annoying slip-slidey movement that's annoying.
UT:
>Dodge mechanics. Even better in UT 2004.
>More advanced weapons that are more difficult to use.
>Has its own version of rocket jumping.
>You don't get a notification of Quad/Double Damage has spawned. You either get it or you don't.
>Significantly better maps. Quake 3 has Campgrounds. Fuck Longest Yard. FUCK Aerowalk.
>Quake 3 becomes unplayable the second you go over the recommended player count for maps.

>>730864035
On the topic of Quake, has anyone seen the Bloodrun mod for Quake 3?

I genuinely wish it was more active with better maps. I love the visuals that don't require downgrading the textures to play well, upgraded models, abilities don't seem OP. Honestly the character models are the only thing I fell need upgraded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvfPt_NurCY

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>>730881001
>UT has always been infinitely more skill based than Quake.

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>>730881382
Did I stutter?

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>>730881563
(You) damaged your brain when you hit your head on the skill ceiling while entering the pc world.

>>730864035
quake 1, no questions asked. quake 2 is a turok mod

>slipseer tranny comes to the rescue

>>730864035
I'm an unc myself, but quake is the epitome of uncslop
I cannot think of a more forced, bland, uninteresting and irrelevant franchise
Let it die already you mongoloids, not even you play this shit and you know it

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Zoomzoom here, I prefer Quake 2 over Quake 1.
Though I've heard the original Q2 had a lot of problems that were fixed in the remaster, maybe that's why I had a great time with it. In any case, both games are great, Q4 fucking sucks.

>>730882554
>Quaketard thinks his clusterfuck shitshow is skill based
>"Damn, bro. I was hoping to have fun but I spawned next to the PG and GL several times and didn't even have a fighting chance"

>>730864035
I think Quake 1 was more fun since it was such a jumbled together mess created by a team with very different approaches and style to work. Then again, Q2 had these rocket launcher ladies...
I give Q1 a slight edge due to the innovative work required but fuck these spawn creatures that jump around like retards. Fuck the dude who invented these fuckers! These enemies were fucking annoying and no fun at all to deal with.

>>730880608
Ok! *opens door*
*continues moaning and laughing crazy even though he can leave*
:(

>>730876807
Freespace 1 > Freespace 2 (Didn't play Descent)
Both FS games are great and best video games IMO