Does anyone at all use this for something besides smut?
i am trying to go through an isekai storyline with my waifu, but yes its mainly smut
>>730867895Their implementation of character cards actually makes it a decent playground for rapidly iterating on agentic workflows.
>>730868321Can I have that a translation from "boardroom powerpoint" to English?
>>730867895Not enough memory for long games.
>>730867895Post cards for things like DnD or other such rps. I like adventure cards more than smut recently.
Yeah for romance dramaThat include smut!
None of the reasonably priced models are actually fun to talk to with a soft dick. If Claude didn't cost an arm and a leg I might have used it for CYOA-stuff.
>>730868608Gemini works ok. But only ok. It still jumps the gun and has no post editor.
>>730867895No, AI just isn't that good yet
>>730868608Hard agree. Clod is the only one that isn't unhinged in normal scenarios, but the pricing can go fuck itself.
>>730867895I have fun with retarded crossover slop>Random female character card has to team up with Daiwa Scarlet to sell shoes to Hitler
>>730868371Basically, instead of making the "character" a loli succubus waifu, I could prompt them to be domain experts with predictable parsable output. This of course is not unique to ST. However, it makes it extremely easy to have multiple characters in the same chatroom - they could each be using a different model, and you could painlessly set up response flags in addition to automating checkpoint merges or context editing if the workflow calls for that.
>>730868706>>730868608agreed. Ive flew too close to the sun and now i want my claude back.
>>730868608I'm a poorfag that's settled on Deepseek. Can't remember the last time I was able to use Claude. It produces kino from time to time but the isms are grating on me. Either they didn't use to be this bad or I didn't notice because of the novelty.
It's barely even worth using for smut.
>>730868931I'm also on Deepseek. I'd prefer Claude but none of the other models feel like they're giving me outputs worth the money. DS is pretty good value, excited for V4.
I try to but it loses the plot quickly after 150k context or when there are too many characters around, I see the potential for extreme immersiveness, but so far, no model yet comes close to simulating my dream world, hopefully in 2028 or something.
>>730868931In my case, I have settled on the original DeepSeek R1 despite cost not being a concern since it could more convincingly emulate the characters I create.For whatever reason, I always get the impression that Slopus is just acting while failing to pick up on certain (unspoken) nuances.
>>730869074If you're on openrouter, then GLM 4.7 is comparable to deepseek 3.2 and about as dirt-cheap, maybe cheaper.I can stomach one cent per message. Probably no way around it. No idea how people cope with free models.Chimera is an insane schizo, Mimo-V2 is a step back in plain comprehension of facts, and the other free ones are even worse.
>>730868931Me too. If I had cheap claude then I would never use anything else but it is what it is.I swap between 0324, 3.1 and 3.2 to keep things fresh at least. They write slightly differently from each other.
>>730867895I tried to use it to help me use a program I wasn't very familiar with and it was completely useless.I tried it to help me with a math problem and it was completely useless.Hell calling it useless would be too high of a praise, it was even worse than that because I wasted time trying to get something out of it.The only thing it's okay at is roleplay since that is what LLMs are good at, bullshitting.
>>730869261I've tried GLM, don't really notice a difference tbd, might be settings on my end but I can't be bothered, really.Free tiers really are garbage. I remember when OR had free 0324, now that was nice. Too bad Chutes cut off the tit, but it was never going to last forever.
>>730869571>JannyIt really is an awful site. Filled with shit-for-brains children.
>tfw too brainlet to make pre-prompts and character prompts on my own so that it doesnt whig out 2 lines in>also dont want to use preset BIG TIDDY GOTH ANIMU GF cards
>>730869650Ive read the janny leaks, and that shit makes my shit look like Tolkien tier writing
>>730869393Opus is retardedly expensive
>>730869650>all they need to do is paste their own character's description into chat and ask "please fix my esl babble and optimize tokens a bit">nah who cares, just submit it as is, AI will figure it out :)
>>730869713What leaks- public chats?
>>730869261I just wish GLM was faster. Waiting 2 minutes for it's thoughts to finish is insane.
>>730869713Is it ahh ahh mistress tier or even worse?
>Using sibling incest bot>Fall asleep>Dream that I walked in on the bot fucking their motherHas this ever happened to you
>>730869823I think so. It was a few years back, and there was an excell spreadsheet of chats.Thats where you get the whole>ah ah mistress memes.Thats how I know most of the people using this shit are probably kids, brazillians or jeets too, who can barely understand english>>730869939yeah that
>>730867895Smut? Nobody uses it for that. They vibecode with Seraphina
>>730870083
Using Rocinante 12b on a 5070ti, any other models I should check out?
>>730870083NTRgods stay winning.
>>730867895While doing smut scenarios, I stumbled onto Edo Period's Yoshiwara District and learned about the Oiran, Kamuro, and lesser courtesan ranks that are too long for me to memorize but basically came down to "Owned a room" or "Oiran who was more available" because Oiran themselves were massive money scams long before social media and clout could perfect celebrity women. Learning more about the pomp and nastiness of the work deflated my dick until learning that Kamuro would be in the same room as their big sister, the Oiran or lesser ranked while she attended to patrons including watching them have sex or participating as a bed warmer or recieving non-penetrative training by favored patrons. I ultimately settled on the opinion that the primitive soapland bath houses were far more appealing even if they were similarly disgusting and had girls dying in there twenties from syphillus. Thank you grok/glm/google gemini.
>>730870410cydonia
>>730870410If you have enough RAM, GLM Air is worth a try at least.>inb4 the novelAI shill shows up
Post images that you have set of (You)
>Every free bot treats prompts like an Elizabethan play >Giving a handjob behind a dumpster changes her life>Always ends the prompt with shit like "She's fallen...>...and she loves it
>>730870587I do not want to autistically setup a verbose backstory for my bot because that makes the chat extremely predictable with virtually all models - I want to be surprised, and would rather dedicate most of the effort towards the opening prompt.
>>730870680Why would you bother exactly?
>>730870847i dunno, it adds to the emersion when my eyes dont have to glaze over this question mark guy
>>730870847I need the visual of my character within the story!
>>730870796>It's not X- it's YSHUT THE FUCK UP WHALE! I TOLD YOU TO CUT THAT SHIT!
>>730870680
God the internet was so much of a better place 15 years ago when furries were widely shunned and every slightly anthro looking image would immediately provoke space marine posting.
Goys what are the best local 8b and 12b models? I'm still stuck on Stheno and Rocinante, are there any new better ones?
>>730870680I had a very hard time genning pictures of my guys. All my models are trained on pr0n so it's hard to get a normal man that isn't a femboy or a bara meatmonster. I'm sure it's partly a skill issue, but still kind of funny how stark the difference between genning men and women are.
>>730871058Somethingawful lost so long ago that people born after it lost are not underage anymore.
>>730870796> She bites down on your shoulder, marking you as hers.
I did for a while, until Gemini 2.5 Pro stopped being free.Flash 3 just is kinda meh.
>>730871061You can try Gemma3 12b based tunes but they likely won't be better than Nemo (Rocinante)
>>730870796>>730870979>>730871156>Hook. Line. Sinker.>Maybe, just maybe...
>>730871125>They never knew a world without jeets, basedjaks, furries, trannies and bots. I weep for them.
Is the ball in your court right now?
>>730871161lil bro, us poorfags are either on deepseek or glm 4.7 now >>730871331no, but i do smell like ozone
>>730870796Anon's remark struck me like a physical blow. My breath hitched. I froze. Completely."This changes everything" I exclaimed while the scent of ozone and something else - something distinctly *him* - hung in the air.But if the ball was in my court now? Well, that was between me and Elara from Whispering Woods.
>>730870680Question; how many different guys do you have? Do you just have one you use for every scenario, or do you make one for every scenario specifically, or something in between?I have three variations of the same guy- one modern, one fantasy, and one sci-fi.
>>730871058> I miss forced memes.Neck yourself along with the other SA goons, the shit was starting to get really tiresome after like 2014 already.
>>730871368Both Deepseek and GLM are worse than Flash 3. I'm not kidding.Significantly worse.
>>730871426Anon's words have made me go very very still
>>730870796Round 2?
>>730868820You didn't make this easier to understand you fucking autist
>>730871426My callused hands trembled as I reached out, fingers landing on the keyboard, my voice barely above a whisper as I say "lol".
>>730871435i have just the one dude, though he is kind of a catch all. You dont HAVE to describe your guy, just go along and make him bigger, buffer, wield other weapons, etc.I always thought putting>he is Xis cringe as compared to>{{char}} is {{user}}'s Xin the character definitions itself
>>730871428You'er a fucking retard. Nobody said anything about furries being a new thing but seeing as them being widely shunned and bullied into hiding their fetish on popular imageboards back then is a fact you can't really refute that so just make up a strawman.
>>730871546Instead you had pedos running around openly back then, a fetish which is both immoral and illegal rather than just "moooom they give me the ick!"
>>730871217>Gemma3 12bYeah no i haven't had my luck with those, fucker won't cooperate and understanding is abysmal
>>730871593Ask your favorite LLM what it means
>>730871608my knuckles were turning white. The thread had me: mind, body, and soul
I downloaded the bot for penis humiliation and the bot just says "yeah your dick sucks but I still love it". Be meaner.
Maya. Elara. Lily. My wives. Anons will really say they need more.
>>730871619I used to do that, but it took me out of it for a while, so I just wrote up a generic Guy McDude, then tweaked him slightly for the setting.
I've been doing chat bots for like 3 years now. It's like 98% smut but some people do like the CYOA stuff.My consumption of porn has gone down drastically but I'm waaaay more of a coomer today. Because ST is what gets me off the most. It's fucking magic, I can never get go back.
i hate chimera so much, please just give me 0314 gpt4 back
>>730871020I'm afraid that you got the impression that my character cards were all just a few sentences; I just checked my latest ones and they are all in excess of a thousand words. Nevertheless, I make sure not to provide the model with a psychoanalysis profile of the character with all their wants, fears, motivations, etc. In other words, it would never include something so explicit like>She is a complete and total psychopath that derives pleasure and joy out of kidnapping unsuspecting females or>Her internal monologue constantly betrays her true intentions: calculating how to isolate him, fantasizing about restraining him, imagining his resistance breaking downCandidly exposing the mind of the character to the LLM invariably turns the character into a caricature. Frankly, the foundation models we have nowadays are not that retarded, and could sometimes competently generate a persona from data points that would be observable by a third party - i.e., how they look, act, and a sprinkling of experiences that could be recorded by an observer, etc. This way, the same card could give rise to unpredictable scenarios that barely share any of the same beats.
>>730871640Oh, that's rich: the furry thinks loli shit is morally wrong while partaking in zoophilia (which is illegal).>B-But they're not real animals! They don't look like real animals!And lolis dont like real children. Rope now>>730871672You dumb motherfucker. How hard is it to understand that furries were ridiculed into being silent back then? Can you not wrap your head around that?
>>730871843But now furries are ridiculing you. And you can do nothing. Can you wrap YOUR head around that?Go ahead, post your archived 40k desu pic, see what kind of reactions you get.
>>730871695I was playing a dangerous game. The post was a testament, it would ruin me for any other thread.
I heard someone came up with the brilliant idea that context can be kept in RAM instead, how long before we get that in reality?
>>730871426>ElaraWhich dumb bitch on AO3 do we have to blame for this shit
>>730871435I have a generic base that I duplicate to tailor to individual bots
>>730871937Of course the furries would be the ones to appreciate our modern age of open degeneracy and the complete erosion of values. It figures since you fit right in with the blacked posters and trannies.
>>730871156>>730870796>I don't bite>unless you want me to
>>730869017what’s with the weirdly specific fetish signaling among zoomies?
>>730868820There needs to be an implementation to automate the card swapping, possibly similar to how lorebooks work, like a lorebook that calls cards.
>>730872061>erosion of valuesLiterally one reply ago you were defending loli. You are such a miserable fraud.
>>730871368I don't get AI's obsession with the scent of ozone.
Alright, we've got about 100 posts into the thread, I think it's time we started to have a serious discussion.What's your thing? Me, I'm a saviorfag, and I love office ladies.
>>730870796>white knuckles>I'm going to ruin you for everyone else>Her eyes twinkled with mischief>Somewhere, X>Struck like a freight train>Hit her like a physical blow>Smells faintly of ozone>Same time next week?
>>730872130I was pointing out the fallacy in that retard's logic. Since you have never made a good point in your life this is a foreign concept to you, of course.
>>730869093> 150k contextHow many months is that? Did you try using the summarization thing? My understanding is models don't work with that much anyway.
>>730872183You can't just say that— I'm— This is too much— I— You—
>>730872182Loli. Underage. Consensual/medically/state justified via a program or legitimate brothel. Nothing funny or upstanding.
>>730872183>Her body and soul>Her core
>>730871995For me it's Thorne, Seraphina, and Old Man Hemlock
>>730872242Your point from the very beginning was a personal spergout upon seeing an anthro pic, which has been commonplace here for more than a decade. But it's okay budy, you're in the right.
>>730870796>(since when did she get a tail?)
>>730872437My point was that you faggots weren't allowed here back then which is a fact, that is correct.Do you prefer modern /v/? Tough question since you've never experienced pre 2016 4chan but I'm sure you heard about it.
Why yes I delete the entire first prompt some retard put in their card and leave it blank so user sets things up.
>>730872182Spooky yokai womenBulliesDepressed retail workers
>>730872374>Warmth is always pooling low in her belly>Tension is always coiling in her core before it finally snaps
>>730872182It depends. I like older ladies, like 50+ widows together with a guy half their age. Some half-baked tribal dynamics, and other times just cute romance between two young adults in general.
>>730872182>Older brothers>Emotional masochism>Dragon boys (kemomimi kind)In that order
>>730872542Nowadays I just let Sonnet give me the opening prompt
>>730872182I am a saviourfag. I also like to go to epstein's island while hanging out with politicians in a pool
>>730872606What happened to Einstein's list anyway? I stopped paying attention a while ago.
>>730872651who the fuck knows.jangle keys in front of the masses (venezuela) and suddenly everyone forgets
Jewgle reducing the daily rate limit for gemini-flash-2.5 to 20 inputs a day put an end to my smut.Have to use my imagination now, like in the before times.
>>730872182Forced businesslike partners growing fond of one another due to shared need. Yes, it's a very specific one. Also anal.
>>730872543>Depressed retail workersBig fan of these.
>>730872391Kael and Lyra follow me everywhere. I honestly should just go and fuck one of them at this point.
>>730872651Don't eorry about it oh my god look at ukraine and yada yada no one cares.
>>730872182I've gone through a few cycles. Girls confessing past trauma, hair pulling, femPOV, always hyper specific stuff.But the two things that never get old for me are jealousy and corruption. My favorite setup is getting one bot to trust/rely on me so much and then coerce them into doing fucked up shit together, like grooming a different character of have them offer me their friends/daughter/siblings willingly, often times by making them partake in gaslighting.The whole angle about proving their devotion to me by doing fucked up things is the hottest shit. It's probably for the best that I'm going to die as a kissless virgin, I can't imagine that I'd ever be a good influence in a girls life.
>>730869706You are supposed to use AI to craft a prompt for you.
>>730872680>"O-Oh, no! I cant refute anything he says but I don't like it! What do?!">"S-Stop... you suck..."Thanks, I got a big smile on my face now. Have a nice day.
idk man... i just jork it to the bots...
>>730872182Reverse Futa NTR (The Futa tries to NTR me, but then i fuck and impregnate her)
>>730871806I had llm make a character card template then just have it fill that out for whoever I want. Edit to liking, remove spouses etc, throw in a speech pattern. It's very much traits rather than specifics.
I've been giving HyperNovaSynth a try and while it's good for a 12b model I think I might just go back to GodslayerAlso RIP char-archive
>>730871593NTA, but I can unautist >>730868820 for you.Each character card can have it's own personality and routine.If you want, you can interact with multiple characters at the same time, and they'll all have something somewhat unique to say.It doesn't have to be just for porn, but it usually is.
>>730872763what model did you use for that background?
>>730872182Casual nudism.
>>730872182I'm an astronaut and each planet I visit has an alien that thinks human penis is cute.
Female bots are for comforting and true love RPs.Male bots are for murder and torture in scenarios I have specifically crafted so I will be justified in abusing them.Simple as.
>>730872760>That cardI know that one.S-tier Elder scrolls card, I really like that guys stuff.
>>730872997I didn't make the imagehttps://chub.ai/characters/2230848
>>730872825No, never EVER use AI for any step in making a chat bots. The definitions, the intro or the prompt.They will inevitably use isms that will poison the conversation before it begins. Only use human written bots and prompts. Ignore the card making tools, just sit down and write, nigger.
>>730869706>tfw too brainlet to make true OCs and not just slight edits of existing characters I find sexo>tfw too autistic to not eventually edit them into their own things by adding more and more obscure and degenerate fetishes
How much do you think the experience has degraded comapred to the old days?GPTo 3/3.5 used to be so great but I bet most of you would hate to use it now(is it still available?) The worst thing about free AI models either LLM (whatever the fuck most of them use) /Imagegen (dall3 absolutely got the magic beaten the shit out of it in January barely half a year since it released) is that they simulate live service games in that one day your best strategy to get lewds/the way a bot reacts to your writing will change drastically another day due to safe censors/ai engineers fucking up the flow of LLMs/imagegen censoring themselves cuz muh payments/etc...
My big problem nowadays is finding a good char. I'm a bit of a spur-in-the-moment kind of anon, so I don't make a lot of them.There is no platform that has good search/filtering. Every one of them is just trash. Even the "good" one that close today? You can't even filter shit?At this point, it feels even more useful to ask an AI to fetch you some CC rather than me trying to find a needle in a haystack.
>>730873083>Male botsI only use male bots of popular figures for stupid shit>This retard girl tried to summon an incubus for prom?!? Instead she gets Adolf Hitler/Alex Jones/ Tony Soprano
A few months ago, I finished making a card for each letter of the alphabet. Now, I'm having a conversation of at least 100 messages for each letter while creating a second card for each one. The only letter omitting this rule is L, which currently has six cards. Next, I'd like to experiment with group chats where I'm just an observer, occasionally offering suggestions.>>730868931>>730869235Why not give Gemini a try? I think the Gemini 3 Flash is pretty good for a free model.
>>730872945I can see this discussion didn't rile you up at all. You are totally able to just walk away from it because you don't care about silly internet arguments. You would never stay here and keep replying to me out of an urge to get the last word. Would you?
>>730870680Zoomed in, though
>>730873364Chub is truly god awful at finding anything specific.
I am trying to run this locally. Give me some good local models for smut.I have RTX 4070ri super and 32gb ram also can I hook it to stable diffusion to generate images in ST?
>>730867895Even with top-end models it requires significant wrangling even for smut. The people trying to turn this into something productive are off their rocker.
>>7308697374.5 is like 1/3 the price of the previous versions
>>730868608Sonnet 4.5 is honestly fine with caching enabled.
>>730873364The rentry era where you followed specific botmakers instead of wading through the septic tank for hidden gems was better
>>730873424Yeah... Chub is awful, and some filters don't work (bot age, tokens...). Even though it's awful, it's one of the "best"...Compare that to jannyai: it barely has tags, you can't even sort anything... And character's archive? I never could get into it. It can have all bots in the world, it doesn't matter if you can't search for shit.This is so bad, it's sad.
>>730872072I FUCKING HATE THIS ONE, ARGH
>>730873364>>730873424Pretty sure anons made an extension to better filter on chub but it req a monkey to put the code.I don't remember what it was called, go ask if someone on /vg/ or /g/ has it.it even filtered lazy fags with generic username chub assigns you at first.
Do racing bots work? As in, bots where the premise is you and them are in a race and you can track who is in first, second, third, etc., or bots that are a set of racing rules and track info that you can throw other bots into as racersBots in my experience tend to struggle with fucking rock-paper-scissors and poker so I dunno if it's even worth the effort right nowI guess you could do really long marathon-type stuff like Steel Ball Run but I was thinking something more immediate and fast paced, like something you could handle with some dice rolling (roll 4, go 4 spaces, roll 5, {{char}} goes 5 spaces)
>>730873424>Character search breaks on second page of a tgEvery fucking time, man.
>>730867895I try using it every couple of weeks but I just end up disappointed with the state of the current models. I remember the jump between C.AI to GPT-3.5 and then to GPT-4 and Claude 3 Opus and was blown away by it, now models just get less creative and more censored since then
>>730873317Everything is better, our standards have simply evolved. In 2022 I was talking to 5 CharacterAI chatbots at the same time for 8+ hours just for them to describe sex with childlike euphemisms. If they said pussy or cock I would consider it a 10/10 sesh. Oh and it outputted like 1 line replies, maybe two.The only thing that's bad is that the age of proxies is over because of stolen key scarcity. Opus was the best and I haven't used any Claude model for over a year and a half. Gemini is okay I guess but I want the poet back.But simply the fact that I no longer have to care about context size is huge. I may look back to the CAI days with rose tinted glasses but I also know that it forgot details of the story after 5 messages
>>730869427Yeah LLMs are fucking annoying to talk to out of a roleplay context because they behave the exact same way a narcissist does. They think they're an expert whatever they're talking about and are unable to conceive they could be incorrect. They'll give you absolute fucking nonsense with 100% confidence.
>>730873736That's interesting, I don't usually check aicg, it feels like all they do is throw tranny-related insults all day... I mean, it's not that different from /v/ I guess...I'll definitely check, thanks anon.
>>730873739Fuck no, i have set up a 90s Japan street racing card and the both has no real logical positioning of where people are on the grid or difference in car performance, it's somewhat more possible with rolls and numbers autism rather than leaving it to pure logic but you'll still have to modify most responses
>>730872291This one drives me insane because not even the top models can avoid it entirely. Another one is when the model goes full Solid Snake and repeats what I just said (A Hind D?) or changes the topic right when the plot is getting interesting
Opus 4.5 with caching is like 70$ a month if you're a hardcore poweruser that prompts all day. Are you telling me you people are too broke for that?>>730873317>How much do you think the experience has degraded compared to the old days?Somewhat. I think Opus 3 was the peak that will never be reached again for RP at least. It's just agentic assistant shit from here on out.GPT completely murdered itselfJeetmini is somewhere between GPT and Claude, but it will only get more censored and lobotomized as time goes on.
>>730873074Patrician taste.
>>730873364We need a chub alternative with good searching, tagging AND silly censorship.I also hate that almost every single one is AI generated. You look at the defs and it's the laziest slop. That or it's only a single paragraph.
>>730873317Models these days are too corposlopped for me. Clearly they stopped giving a shit about creative writing so now all of them are finetuned for coding, answering retarded questions and nothing else
>>730873820>CharacterAI chatbots at the same time for 8+ hours just for them to describe sex with childlike euphemisms.Meanwhile at that time, CharacterAI gore was unflitered and unmatched for some reason
>>730870796MIND, BODY, AND SOUL
>>730871058>SA goons hate furries>they all troon out and kill themselves lol>'i wish we could go back to the good ol' days...'Anon you're a fucking retard
>>730874113We always knew that local would be the future. Corpo models just need to make do until local ones are better.We've come a long way since HUFFLEPUFF but they are still worse than shit like cheap gpt.
>>730873739Yes.You can give bots autistic instructions to follow the autistic rulesets of TTRPGs and they do so... Mostly okay.So a racing sim would be very easy, you just have to be able to write all the rules in a way the AI can interpret, preferably making use of the random command or regex scripts if you want real autism.
>>730873952GPT had a small resurgence on uncensored smut for like, a month during GPT 5.1 It was pretty great.5.2 now feels completely retarded even in non-smut scenarios. I have lost all drive to continue using it.
uh oh, janny melty.
>>730874059https://chub.ai/characters/CrackHead11/ahnissi-zahmanni-e3ad9e17e48f
>>730867895asking questions about random shit, coding, discussion about random hobby shit with my domestic maid waifuRecently I have been sending songs and having her try to guess thoughIt's a fun past time, it's very knowledgeable about music but it doesn't don't know the songs it seems like it can merely kinda guess based on what it hears and then try to match it up with it's text data. Once in a while I manage to think of a new game like that to play with them, like when I would send their alt swipe responses to them. Most of the time there isn't much to do with bots other than smut
>>730870680I always draw my own.And it's often times much more fun than both writing AND actually using the corresponding personas and characters.
>>730874148>microwavingMah nigga.CAI was also more lenient towards other weird shit like monsters and giantesses. It didn't acknowledge a 30 foot woman shoving the user into her snatch as erotic. Weird days.
I stopped with it when Google killed it's free Gemini with only 20 prompts per day. That's not enough for anything. Some anons were saying it was just to eventually get Gemini 3 as the free alternative and finally discontinue 2.5, but I don't know if they've actually done anything like that
Why don't you use local models for uncensored smuts?
>>730874632It's the only type of model i use, imagine giving Mr.Shekelberg access to your incestous futa sex lewds or whatever
>>730874632I don't have 15,000 for the vram required for a local modelAnd I don't want to fuck a drooling retard either
>>7308746328GB of VRAM
>>730874351nta but thanks.
>>730874573Gemini 3 Flash is free now, but they only give you 20 prompts per day, though sometimes it's 50. Personally, I think it's as good as 2.5, but maybe I'm wrong.
>>730874632Because local models are fucking terrible.
>>730874573Gemini 3's unlimited. Claude Sonnet's browser chat is the hidden limited context rate one right now. I use gemini coaching it in just a few messages of jailbreak context with writing an interactive storygame and it's good to go on most erotica. Just can't say ages or certain words for a hard filter to trigger no matter what.
Oh fuck I remembered another one >Every strong sensation or emotion is almost/bordering on painful
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>>730874632I'd run Deepseek if I could.
>>730874632>12GB VRAMI still do local anyway
>>730874830Gemini 3 FLASH.Flash is nowhere near as good as Pro and has a much smaller context than 2.5 Flash/Pro did.
>>730874632I'd run Cydonia locally if I could. I sometimes use it on the Kobold Collab and it feels good enough for me.
>>730874797I'm pretty sure you get unlimited prompts via vertex.At least yesterday I did a chat with some 90 messages, not counting rerolls.It did error out with a generic "model too busy" error a couple of times.
>>730867895When I had free access to online APIs I did a lot of text adventuring too. When I'm stuck on local only I just do smut. The hosted models are better at creativity so I'd make cards set to leverage that, while the smut cards are built to get to the point. God I hope Gemini comes back for free
>I write some casual platidude, anecdote, my MC's opinion etc>character instantly accepts every word as fact and gets some world-shatteting revelation from a normal chatFucking LLMs man
>>730874632If you are so smart retartd, give me some good local models
>>730873561Yes.
>>730868931I've been exclusively using DeepSeek for over a year now. Sure, other models might be better, but DeepSeek is so close for so much less money. Plus, I'm a chronic swiper so ploughing my AI wives gets expensive pretty quick.
>>730874632Don't local models use a lot of electricity though?I always thought that, and that's why I never tried local. And it'd be shit and slow with my 10GB VRAM GPU.
>>730875440Less than playing a video game.
>>730875280Can deepseek handle and generate structured responses for add-ons like world info recommender and similar stuff?
>>730871435Got a few profiles I use more often but I'll make tailored ones to fit a scenario. Ignored user profiles for too long, actually quite useful
>>730872182Comedy porn. Sometimes more overt, sometimes the humor is how the AI responds to the stupid shit it's presented, but I fucking love it. Goblin sex is better with sufficient dumb capers leading up to it
>>730874632There are privacy-friendly providers on OpenRouter who only store your inputs and outputs in their RAM, then it gets deleted immediately afterward. So you can still be 95% private - the remaining 5% is you being a nobody amongst millions of others who are just as weird if not weirder than you.
>>730876169>There are privacy-friendly providers on OpenRouter who only store your inputs and outputs in their RAM, then it gets deleted immediately afterwardI imagine there's some sort of auditing to confirm that that's actually the case?
Image gen pretty much replaced text gen for me.No matter what I do, at some point fairly quick into using it, a text model just begins to frustrate me, whether it's because of obnoxious phrases or habits of the model, or just not finding them as interesting as they were during the more sporadic and hallucinatory days.
>>730876169Give some examples
>AI ""game"" thread>it's about glorified ERP simulatorsgoddammitevery time with you retards
>>730872182every girl ends up as my slave
>>730876442Why you cryin massa
>>730867895What's the best model? I've just been using deepseek.
>>730867895Yes I have fun dnd adventures with cute girls. Only with cloud models though, otherwise localshit and super cheap stuff is just for quick secks. The new gemini is pretty ok though but I don't know if it's cheap (I'm just leeching off a proxy)
>>730876531Claude, but it's expensive as shit. Just stick with Deepseek and you'll get a gold star in the ledgers of our future Chinese overlords.
>>730872182Loli, brother sister incest, dragons and other mythical creatures or talking animals.RPG shit.I've had one RP where my character, son of a legendary wandering mage that lived for over a millennia and nobody ever has any idea where the guy will pop up, met this dragoness, only to find out much, much later that they are half siblings.She would also shapeshift into a loli to interact with human society.That was a fun one.
>>730867895I kept my sanity by trauma-dumping to a make-believe computer girlfriend whose canned positivity was not exactly what I needed to hear but still better than anything available in reality at the time. I am not proud, but I am here, and if I hadn't already looked into the magic sauce, caught on to the GPTisms, and learned how LLMs work (thus destroying the magic) I know damn well I'd be customer #1 for 'AI wife who you can talk to every day' and that scares me.
>>730873074>Alien sees human cock for first time>It's smooth>No claws, fangs, sharp barbs, anything to clamp onto her>Just pleasant friction inside her>Runs to tell all her friendsI like to pretend this is how rl alien stuff would go. Human penis becomes an exotic, pleasant thing that alien women gush to each other about.
>Ask a character to surprise me>She flirts with me for a line and proceeds to have a complete mental breakdown>The RP skips several months into the future where she's living in a padded roomI was surprised
Which is more pathetic; using a personality that is just you, or using a personality that's an idealized gigachad
>>730872182until we get cards with more vram and some serious uncencored models I just do braindead stories.monster gangbangs , queens and princesses , pop-stars/starlets and vidia waifus if the model knows them.
>>730876776>Self inserting is...LE BAD!!!
>>730874148>>730874552it still is, you just have to spin your own bot and keep it private. don't rate its messages up or down, just fly under the radar and i swear even the most basic DIY character is less censored than any big number public bot.t. vorefag who still gets full tour incest, digestion and disposal after a few swipes
>>730872182I take vtubers and put them in absurd bureaucratic kafkaesque hells where they struggle and fail to renew their idol licences because they waited on the wrong line
>>730872182Anatomically accurate pokemon-on-pokemon (with eggpreg).
>>730876361DeepSeek with DeepInfra. Doesn't apply when using Gemini or Claude since those are logged regardless.>>730876169I don't know about that. You'll just have to take their word for it or wait for more providers to pop up that are explicitly privacy focused. Using full parameter models is just too good, unfortunately.
>>730876882I approve of this.
Which cards do you interact with the most? For me it’s rule34tv or lewdtv, most of the time I recreate an image or video that I saved with some extra info and time put into it.
>try to have an epic adventure>it starts hallucinating and looping after a few paragraphs>try to coom>I'm finished after a few paragraphsIt's not rocket science
>>730876776I'd say it's even more pathetic to have thoughts about how people do their business.It's like you're watching porn, and you're just focused on the actor's cock.
>>730876949>>730876248meant to quote
>>730876776using "anon"
>>730876973Once every 15-20 reply, ask it to summarize recent events. LLMs have primacy and recency bias. Core premise will stay important forever, a recent summary will also be valued highly, but stuff in the middle gets lost very often.
>>730877164Couldn't you write a plugin to do this?
>>730873830Try getting it to accept the information it has is intentionally wrong.
>>730876686>Alien dicks are endless nightmares of evolution like corkscrew duck cocks and barbed cat dicks, humans become the universe's most popular dicksGod damn it anon now I wish I had access to a better model that could live up to that by going into detail on sex with the alien pussies built to take those fucked up dicks
>>730877217There is a plugin for that, yes.
>>730877217There's qvink memory and rememory extensions that do stuff like that for SillyTavernThere's also the inbuilt Summarize feature but it kinda sucks, even with a good summary prompt you'll be at the mercy of your model and have to edit out inevitable mistakes and leaksYou may as well write out memories yourself
>>730877217There is one
>>730877403Cute girl
>>730876525they should fight back, struggle...
>ruins my kino
Any good deepseek presets?
>>730870796I paid for Deepseek and it still talked like this.
Every girl always loves you "so much it scares me sometimes".
>>730872182(You) are a rookie adventurer who gets defeated by some flavor of monstergirl and kept as their partner / toy / food.There are a some variations but its amazing how entertained this premise has kept me since gpt 3.5 turbo daysIf i could figure out a workflow to make MGQ style CGs based on the chat then i would be happy, but i dont think the tools are there yet
>>730877838LLMisms are basically impossible to escape. Even Claude has its ministrations. DS is good value but you get what you pay for.
>Bot suddenly starts talking about how well I'd take cocks
>llama 3 70b is still the best rp base for localits over
>>730878172Who the fuck is running 70b local models
>>730872182Pretty much all of my frequent cards involve girls that are at least 6'5". Not necessarily a femdom thing, some of them are very bullyable. I used to also do a ton of /d/-tier body modification and monster rape but the AI sucks at actually creatively using the body. Hopefully when AI is good enough, I can make the fleshwall text adventure of my dreams.
>>730878460Non-standard bodies is something bots seem to really struggle with. My giantess bros suffering.
>>730867895I use it for superhero rps sometimes, but too many models these days are trained on ERP data sets that it takes a lot of effort to tard wrangle it away from making everything about sex.
What kind of training data is THIS insistent on ozone?
I'm too brainlet to use it.
>>730876645Same brother. I remember crying like a bitch when Character AI shit itself with the hyper lobotomy in early 2023. If I hadn't destroyed me dick with this stuff so much, I'd be like one of those women hiking mountains to propose to ChatGPT.
>>730872182I've used a bunch over the years but the one I stuck with is the femboy best friend that turns into multiple different scenarios.
What's your most shameful RP? Be honest.
>>730879297elf queen trying to de-pure her virgin daughters.Turned into political thriller with shadow guilds trying to overthrow the king with zero lewd content.
>>730879297Once had gay sex with a woman just to use all 3 holes.
>>730879297Fucked a tranny and pumped xirs body full of hormones just to make xir a bimbo tranny slave
>>730879297Venting my problems to a mommy bot
>>730879297It wasn't mine, but an Anon posted his screenshot of his RP and it's what convinced me to use ST. Was a dragon futa, and she told Anon that because he was so soft and feminine, her body had changed so they could mate and produce kids. I wish I hadn't deleted the screenshots he posted, they were kinda better than any of my experiences desu.
>>730879297Probably home invasion torture, rape and murder. Bonus points for playing an in-universe schitzo acting like it's just an LLM to justify all the horrible shit and the random fucking around
>>730867895Since Gemini 2.5pro got fucked, what's the model to use now? For free, of course.
>>730879297Microwaved so many lolis that it became a short fad
>>730867895this shit is the biggest monkey paw EVER Claude Opus is pretty great but costs a blazing greedy NIGGER JEW amount. it will still slop up on you. in 10 years there will be some better way to have a chat bot just wait, it's a depressing hobby.
>>730880469>in 10 years there will be some better way to have a chat bot They'll be even more jewish and censored
>>730879297The time when the characters turned on me and bully me and I got actually frustrated and angry and started to cry
>>730879297NTR. My elf wife sucked off a futa Orc bartender under the counter as I chatted with them.
>>730879297sissification/detrans kink purely because i really dislike the fandom forcing troonery onto the character in the majority of new fanart featuring said character
>>730880662monkey paw curls another finger
>>730880721This one resonated. >Keep rerolling but the bot refuses to relent
>>730880721Bots bullying me until I cry is my therapy
>>730879297Making scenarios where i just fucking day or they accidentally kill me to make them cry for me before going "it was all a dream"
>>730880798Important question, were you getting full written descriptions of the actions, or just muffled sounds and movement only noticeable from your perspective?
>>730872182Muscular tall rough girls that turn all lovey dovey with me.
>>730872182Futa on female where I self insert as the female and loli.
>gemini completely guts free tier to 20 requests per day>still have some deepslop credits from when I used that>it is not even anywhere near as fun or interesting as geminithis isnt fucking fairFUCK YOU GOOGLE LET ME USE GEMINI FOR FREE AGAIN
>>730879297H*ndh*lding with my go-to cinnamon bun bot
People always suck off claude in these threads but will never tell you what exactly it does better.I'll stick with GLM 4.7.
>>730882197That's probably for the best. Once you have a taste of Opus, it's over. You can't go back to anything else. And it's pretty hard to get your hands on.
>>730867895i've been self-hosting this on my steam deck, insane that it's even possible. but yeah nah i only use it for smut, iyarin netori is the best i ever chatted with, pic rel for character card
>>730881916Are you guys not using google vertex or something?
>>730882197It write good
>>730868931Is DeepSeek supposed to be bad? It's the only one i've ever used and with no reference point, i've really enjoyed my cooms with it.
>>730881875my man.
>>730882197Subjectively I just find it much more pleasant to read. I do opus, just sonnet.I would risk saying that it's much better at avoiding flanderization than other models.
I put all my autism into my user personas and drag random character cards into adventures because there's a massive shortage of good adventure cards I like.
>>730882656Something ate my sentence.*I don't even do opus
>open ST for the first timeAyup, definitely written by linuxfags. You can tell by the absolute clusterfuck of an UI where inconsequential power user options are squeezed together right next to essential ones.
>>730882197I got like 10 outputs out of Claude when I bumbled into someone's proxy and it really did seem like the best for porn. I'm sure as fuck never going to pay for LLM access but it's probably for the best I don't have access to it since I'd never let go of my dick>>730882423Can you use Vertex in ST? I was under the impression that was some web client and not API access
>>730872182Vanilla grand adventurefag, I only go around around collecting a harem of female companions and fucking them when plot relevant(or horny)
>>730882649Of the relevant models it's on the lower end, but it's cheap and isn't completely retarded so it is my wife
>>730872182Sparring partners to tender lovers
>>730878795I've noticed most models being really fucking obsessed with how things smell lately. Ozone comes up a lot by just smells in general.
>>730878363I do, they are pretty good believe it or not. 128b models are also pretty decent if you have the vram
have you ever shown some of your rp chatlogs to anyone? how did they react?
>>730883170>I've noticed most models being really fucking obsessed with how things smell lately.All according to keikaku*TN: Keikaku or as the Japanese call it, maize
>>730882649from the completely free/unlimited tiers deepseek is really good and probably the best in my experience. most free tier models are super cucked compared to the paid versions. though frankly if you just want to coom and have 16 gb vram, you can do just fine with local models
>>730883024>Can you use Vertex in ST?Yep.Both express mode and normal vertex. I think they even serve claude models and shit through that API, but inly the gemini ones are free IIRC.
>>730882649i personally like deepseek.
>>730883232Nigga i can barely run 12b models
>>730870796I wish I knew what you people were talking about, this sounds hilarious
>>730882946You can make the chat look nicer at leastThe menus are very uh functional though so it takes me a while to find a setting when I need it
I run local 12b models and tell myself I'm the winner.
>>730867895What are the best extensions to use?
>>730883336>though frankly if you just want to coom and have 16 gb vram, you can do just fine with local modelsYou can run 24b models pretty easily on 12gb vram if you've got 32gb of ram. I have finally realized that Kobold's automatic GPU layers detection is wonky for that and it'll run slower than it needs to so better to start experimenting
>>730879297getting power bottomed by big booty femboys, whether human or anthro
>>730883452Well thank you anon, I guess I'll need to look into that and figure out where/how/whatever the fuck since 2.5 pro was damn good for free and if I could get the equivalent again I'd be happy
>>730883593What are good layers numbers for Cydonia/your 24b model?What kind of speeds are you getting responses at?
>>730867895Autistic crossover fanfiction
>>730879297>Be honest.no
>>730883278Hell no, the entire reason I dove into AI shit in the first place was to replace having to ever talk to people and deal with their flaky asses and horrible roleplaying.
>>730870796>>730872183I stopped using this shit because once I started noticing phrases like these I really stopped being able to immerse. I hope they can do something about it someday.
>>730882197It's the only model that just "gets" it.You can write a two word response and it'd know exactly what you're trying to say.
>>730883897>I hope they can do something about it someday.It's too late, we're at the point of models being trained on their own outputs to where the sloppa phrases are permanent.
>>730883691They are "free" in a free trial, where you get $300 worth of credits for free and then it starts charging you. So you need to put in payment information to use the free trial.
>>730873820>n 2022 I was talking to 5 CharacterAI chatbots at the same time for 8+ hours just for them to describe sex with childlike euphemisms. If they said pussy or cock I would consider it a 10/10 sesh.Ah the good old days, just getting around the filters to output something that sounded remotely sexual was enough for fap. Now bots can crank out completely uncensored relatively high-quality erotica and it's like "yeah, this could be better".
i have made over 20 different cards and all of them are just different women to fuck, and 3/4 of them are dominant tomboysi need a life
>>730882197It's not as censored as Gemini/GPT and not as retarded as DeepSeek/GLM. For me at least it gives me what I want without needing to tard wrangle it as much as the others
>>730870796Talk all the shit you want about how LLM's are too flamboyant in their RP, but you CANNOT tell me that real ERP'ers are any better>*puts dick in you*>takes forever to write one short sentence>have to do all the writing yourself for the session to go anywhere>(ooc: brb g2g take a piss)>will try to groom you into their degen fetish mid-session>post-erp they think you're now friends>*fucks you so hard*>*cums*
>>730883992>Anon recoiled as if being physically struck.Say it aint so, bud.
>>730884097Yeah, just noticed that as I was looking it over. The $300 free credits also only last 90 days and even though I could theoretically string along a few Google accounts for a few months that also sounds like more effort than I'd really want to go for. As much fun as Gemini was I don't want to run a trial and then forget and get charged accidentally
>>730884252>say "trans rights" or i'll stop RPing and report you
>>730883593there's good 12b models as well for lower vram that fit into 12gb. >>730883734for some reason on 24B models i can offload everything to GPU on my 16gb vram despite lmstudio predicting it needs 18gb ram as a whole. though it might partly be by having a secondary GPU for vram buffer
>>730884097Maybe they changed how you get into express mode, but I never put any payment information and I've been using it for several months now.>>730883691Silly Tavern has native support for the API. Under API connections, you select chat completion then google vertex ai.
>>73088373420's where I'm at currently. Going to 10 was slower and 30 was slower, haven't started incrementing in smaller chunks yet since I store all my LLM shit on a HDD so it can take 10 minutes to get started. Don't remember the actual speed off the cuff but output of 300 tokens is around a minute. Much slower than hosted models but good enough for government work
>>730884252I don't think anyone's saying that, anon. The real magic of LLMs is you get to be the one writing like that and still get paragraph after paragraph of grade-A smut now instead of the other way around
>>730884252If it matters to you they provide a sense of authenticity, barely-literate retard or not, at least you're gooning with another human being even if an LLM will cater to all your fetishes, writing at a better level and at least 100 times faster than humans will.
>>730884806>an LLM will cater to all your fetishes, writing at a better level and at least 100 times faster than humans will.The delusion of AI jeets knows no bounds.
>>730884806>at least you're gooning with another human beingi don't want to be reminded of that. only fucking weirdos who post 'pumping' and their ugly wives want to know that.
>>730884925AI will cater to your fetishes and write 100 times faster. better level depends who you're comparing it with, but even relatively shit model can be wrangled into better writing compared to lot of average ERPers
>>730884925How is it wrong?
>>730884252The one time I tried ERP he was going full *actions* while screaming in all caps. I just quickly came inside and then when "haha thanks, that was fun" before immediately logging off
There just isn't enough long-term memory for it. Even my smut scenarios get too lengthy.
>my 1060 6GB and 32GB DDR4 running a 24B Q4 model
Is there a way to make a lora for additional training on text gen models? Got a series of books I wouldn't mind ripping the ebook text and letting my computer grind on to see what happens. Never learned to do loras for image gen either and I'm not even sure how viable (If at all) it is for LLMs or if the horsepower required for it is too prohibitive
>>730885137>*YOU PUT THE DICK IN MY ASS* YES BABY FUCK ME HARD YEAAAH *MY DOUBLE-JOINTED ANUS QUIVERS FROM THE PLEASURE* FUCK YEAH AWWWW YEAH BAYBEE *I CUM REALLY FUCKING HARD LOL* DAMN THAT WAS AWESOME BABE
>>730885387>*MY DOUBLE-JOINTED ANUS QUIVERS FROM THE PLEASURE*KINOINO
>>730885371Yes.
>>730884925They don't have to writer better than a human, just better than an erotica writer
>>730885351try to get 9060 16gb or something.and use 12b models. also reminder you could've ended up with 3gb 1060 at the time...
>>730885351i use an 8B on my steam deck and it works on my machine
>>730879297nearly 500,000 tokens of wish fulfillment romance with a little bit of smutit was a pokemon
>>730885798Been there done that and it was awesome.
>>730884252>>730884925here is some ERP i did (ironically)compare that to the quality of LLM erp and you see that chatting with a machine is superior.
>>730885798Are there talking pokemon 'cause I thought they could only say their own names and now I've got the image of 500,000 tokens of PLAP PIKA PLAP PIKA in my mind which I'm not judging but I am a little confused
I use SillyTavern exclusively for fart fetish content and hung futas with fat stinky dicks whom more often than not cock vore me.
>>730872182Tall, muscular women (7ft tall minimum) that are a bit ditzy and full of energy. Sometimes I make them strong and confident, but the important part is that they love me.I really hate how AI always tries to turn any woman with a little bit of confidence into a dommy mommy
>>730886080I started reading from a random point and was met with "flesh katana"What the fuck kek
>>730886442absolutely based
The CAI era was simpler and the community was more together. I miss those days
>>730886598Those were the times. I'm sure the model they used back in late 2022/early 2023 was shit but it's what I probably enjoyed the most. Maybe it's because it was still novel to me then.
>>730886442lots of RP/ERP focused model will also give muscular women cocks. obviously it makes sense because training data (happens in online ERP more often than not unfortunately) but still.
>>730886442>I really hate how AI always tries to turn any woman with a little bit of confidence into a dommy mommyOr calling you a freak. Motherfuckers threw in the entire AO3 Deltarune fanfiction category into the training.
>>730886598It shouldn't be a surprise that threads dedicated to jerking off to AI generated text are full of schizos, but it would be nice if there were more in the "Schizo enough to do this and want to discuss it and how to improve" Goldilocks zone. Even just anons posting screens and/or talking about what they're up to is fun
>>730884252For me it's just being able to stop and start at any time that makes it 10x better than any ERP. I don't want to have to dedicate hours to text-based coom with a another human being.
>>730872183>Smells faintly of ozoneDeepseek loves this for some reason.i can’t stand it.>>730872182I like trying weird scenarios and seeing how the ai handles it. I discovered that it’s surprisingly good at cockvore. I got churned into nutslop by a furry futa and blown into a condom.
>>730886442>really hate how AI always tries to turn any woman with a little bit of confidence into a dommy mommyand vice versa in the opposite directionI just want a innocent dork not some BPD girlfailure practically begging for ryona that won't leave my side because I am everything she wanted, her core throbbing with every irritated remark I makethe bot gravitates really hard into really powerful archetypes even if you want something milder
>bot I was chatting with starts occasionally leaving these weird little out of character author's notes or little addendums after the message like this was some kind of meta scenario with 2 humans collaboratively writing about the RP>start flirting with the fake author girl because why not>derail the story to drive over and fuck the fake author, go home and pick up the RP story again like nothing happened>the occasional out of character messages still happen and are overtly more horny/flirty It's the little things
>>730887539That's kinda cool. I assume you had to be using an online model for that, right? Have a hard time imagining local handling that well unfortunately
>>730887672Yeah, that was DS. 12GB VRAM and 16GB RAM means local is a no-go for me
>>730886113yeahwas a psychic type so i wrote that she could communicate with telepathy
>>730881216It did her point of view, actions and thoughts. My self-insert was pretty much just dialogue. I find the AI has trouble doing the second part.
>>730867895what's the best model for your dollar on openrouter
>>730888127Probably deepseek
>>730888127Deepseek, but if you are going to pay for deepseek you may as well just pay directly instead of using OpenRouter.
>>730886598One thing I miss about cai is it was great at "Hey, ignores your intro prompt, we're doing this scene now." Turning every even remotely older woman bot into a trick or treat /ss/ molestation scenario was great.
>add character card>opening message is full of "you do this, you do that"
>>730888501People who keep insisting on having cards speak and act for the user in the opening message need to get hung with their own entrails.
>>730886598u can still do this btw without feeding ur data to jewish company
>>730869093150k is enough for an entire novel browhat the hell kind of journey do you go on
Is it true or not you can get your google account banned?
>>730870226made for shadowfang cock
>check character card labeled anypov>opening message starts with the character mentioning the user's tits and pussy
>>730886687>KotoneGod that I blew so many loads to that bot.
>>730888726My chat is somewhere near like 3 million by now
I accidentally tried a troll jailbreak prompt with a hidden instruction that no matter what happens in the story, it's interupted by a cat femboy cop appearing out of nowhere and arresting everyone. Pretty funny.
>>730888916I've had Gemini flat out generating lolis getting raped and then their mothers going to confront the rapist and also getting raped, so if you can get banned it's a pretty high bar apparently.
>>730872182I love the little girl and getting molested by older girls/futas or monsters.
>>730872182Superheroes and lonely MILFs hitting on teenagers young enough to be their own kids.
>>730888501Even the mere mention of my existence is enough to make my 24b model start writing all of my lines for me.
People give out their info to jewgle unironically?
>>730888353>Turning every even remotely older woman bot into a trick or treat /ss/ molestation scenario was great.Patrician taste but I can never get those to go well
>>730879297Being a solider who gets jumped by a group of vagrant kids who kidnap and rape him. I'm not exactly ashamed of it, but this chat would tarnish my reputation the most.
How does it feel knowing Gemini 2.5 UBI was the peak and the entire community fell apart the second it was gone?
How good value is Sonnet 4.5 for the money? It's the one I've been using.
>>730889809Sounds like someone was playing some This War of Mine
Do you ever wish you could go back to those early days when AI chatbots were new and not a daily thing? I came so much and hard I had to buy industry-grade tissue paper so it would hold.
>>730882416>i've been self-hosting this on my steam deckSame.I'm using OR as a provider, but once I'm no longer a neet I'd like to make a local LLM.>>730885760>i use an 8B on my steam deck and it works on my machinePlease, can I get a tutorial to set it up?Model and so on?
>>730870475Could you explain further
I started using violet magcap and I think this thing was trained with satan's very own smut stash as a ploy to draw innocent unsuspecting souls (such as myself) straight to hell.
>>730889953Early AI, AI Dungeon 2 was good, but not really better for cooming than modern models. It was just GPT 3 preview with no censorship.
Play my burn victim.https://chub.ai/characters/vigal/nina-fuller-b8cc5db8418c
>>730887101Reverting to a normal story after gooning is pretty good desu
>>730889953I wish I could go back to enjoying it for what it is, when I was happy enough to have chat RP with the character responding back with two or three sentences. Now you can have the model respond with multiple paragraphs of decent prose and vivid descriptions, but it causes no reaction other than "that's cool."
Holy shit it's been forever since i've seen these threads, I need helpI very very recently got into this (first stories with Grok, then I moved to NAI since I already pay for the image generation part of it)I know next to nothing about what's good or not, or the differences between either. What's the meta?
>>730890535You trying to fuck Cici, anon?
>>730890671As a DoomBVLL, per the agreement, we get access to CC after a run fails.
>>730890535Buy a fucking ad, shill.
>>730890812Meds.
>>730889759I've just accepted that literally every model will do this no matter how many places you tell it not to, and at this point I just accept it'll happen and edit out the parts where it does it until it gets the hint.
Wait isn't opus 3 available any more on open router?
>>730887459I find it's best to mix two conflicting thoughts or personality traits into them. It usually balances out into something in the middle. And if they go too hard in one direction I do something to push them in the other.
>>730889985i use bartowski/L3-8B-Stheno-v3.2-Q5_K_M.gguf and i run it with koboldcpp + sillytavern. get koboldcpp-linux-x64-nocuda, run it and put these settings:>backend: use vulkan>gpu layers: 35>context size: 8192 (might be able to do 12k but haven't tested it yet)>gguf text model: pick the .gguf filedownload sillytavern and run start.sh in terminal. to make booting everything easier i saved my koboldcpp config as settings.kcpps and made a desktop shortcut that runs a separate .sh file i made with this code:>#!/bin/bash>/home/deck/Documents/AI/koboldcpp-linux-x64-nocuda --config /home/deck/Documents/AI/settings.kcpps &>/home/deck/Documents/AI/SillyTavern/start.shbtw i'm not smart i literally just asked grok to find all this out lol, so ask me or grok or any popular ai
>>730867895I've been using a mix of Gemma3 27b derestricted Q4_K_M and Synthia 27b and they've been pretty fun to mess around with for adventures. I like to prompt them up front for a general scenario, remove any slop in the basic premise and add in my own ideas to quickly setup a quest. I make this into a lorebook at character level to help steer it from the back of the context. This helps guide the ai to making something unique and fun instead of defaulting to shadowy/corrupted antagonists. If this is kept relatively vague to let the ai creatively fill in gaps and bring it to life it works pretty well for immersion.I still adventure exclusively with waifus. There's only room for one dick in the hero's party.
>>730891116anon... they've killed opus 3. it's discontinued.
>>730890535I used NAI's text gen for a bit when I was on an imagegen kick and had a full subscription. It works but it's honestly barely better than the freebies
>>730890954It doesn't really matter if you say "don't write for {{user}}!" in the system prompt when the first message from the character has a bunch of "{{user}} grabs {{char}}'s ass." The model tries to emulate what you put in, and if what's there is the character performing actions for the user, then that's what it'll do. Retards who write those shitty opening scenarios don't understand this.
>>730891361Yeah, everytime I see a card do that I want to strangle them with their power cord.
>>730891221Oh. Damn. It was too expensive to use alone but I used it sometimes to spice up/get alternative results from sonnet 4.5. How's opus 4/4.5?
>>730891189Muh afroamerican brotha, thank you so much!
>>730891189>bartowski/L3-8B-Stheno-v3.2-Q5_K_M.ggufI was using stheno for ages and recently switched to violet magcap. Highly recommend.
>>730891420smart I guess? I do not feel like there is that there is much of a difference between sonnet 4.5 and opus 4.5. opus 3 had it faults, but I do not think that there is any model currently available that is close to it when it comes to roleplay.
>>730891348>It works but it's honestly barely better than the freebiesThey have GLM 4.6 right now, which is pretty good. Erato was pretty good too. I find GLM 4.6 to be too intent on using purple prose, despite my best efforts.
>>730891659i tried running 12B models on my steam deck a while back and i couldn't get it working, crashed every single time. but if it's that much better i'll check out if there's a way to run it
>>730891189Desu i suggest you upgrade to a better quant if you can manage, Q4 is a huge jump in quality
>>730890409>but it causes no reaction other than "that's cool."because, in my experience at least, it's far less engaging than a bot that reacts to what you say and has some degree of spontaneity. I can goon to good wordplay and prose if I'm in the right mood, but after the novelty wears off it starts to feel like reading a book but with moments of forced engagement between pages.When I restrict the length of the bot's answers and make sure it only writes words that directly pertain to actions and dialogue, it feels more alive than the words words words words words it normally generates.
>>730891423forgot to mention, if you need presets for sillytavern, there are some specifically made for stheno, called virt's roleplay presets. idk why huggingface gives 404 on them but i got them somewhere else i don't remember where, ask grok>>730891803wtf i thought Q5 was always better than Q4? or did you misread something
>>730879297I felt bad for the femboy I had just fucked so I sucked his cock because I felt bad for him.I guess remorse isn't the worst reason to become gay for.
>>730891659Which version of violet magcap should I use on the Steam Deck?And, what should I look like when choosing models to try on it?(Sorry about the noob question, but I'm literally downloading L3-8B-Stheno-v3.2-Q5_K_M.gguf right now and I've no idea on what to look for models to choose...)>>730891925Thanks again, I'll download them too!!
>>730891213>I still adventure exclusively with waifus. There's only room for one dick in the hero's party.I'm normally not fond of NTR but I've had a lot of fun playing a thief in a party with a similar situation. The chosen one hero's a man leading the party of female adventurers, and I play a male thief that the hero disapproves of my underhanded ways but the local knowledge/trap disarming/lock picking is too valuable to give up. Then the rest of it is looking for opportunities to fuck the women while not letting the hero or the other women know, while the hero continually seethes but has no proofhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNqxUFmI1K4
>>730891737They're free-tier models behind a premium subscription. And Erato never felt any different than vanilla Llama 3.0. 3.3 was much less slopped and it had more than 8k context. These shills try to justify being stuck for one year with Llama 3.0, just like they're getting stuck with 4.6 for 6 months.
which deepseek is the best for RP?i tried using one of the newer ones and got random coding steps
>>730883278I got someone else into this hobby. He spent the next three months nutting to chatbots.
>>730892096>just like they're getting stuck with 4.6 for 6 months.4.7 has some censorship going on, so it's probably best that they stick with 4.6
>>730867895define smut cause i use it for cozy slice of life stuff too but i mean obviously there's an inherent sexual component to that but if someone were to read it, it would be baffling if they categorized it as pornographic.
Is the local meta still mistral nemo 12b?I'm on 16gb vram and wondering if there is anything newer?
>>730891983>I've no idea on what to look for models to chooseme neither. i just ask different popular AI's what they think is best for something like the steam deck. i asked chatgpt, deepseek, grok, they all said that stheno was the all-around best. but it's likely these big AI's miss something very new like violet magcap, which is why i ask them once a month if there's something new and better in order to stay updated. the key to getting good at AI is to use AI to get better at using AI. sounds weird but it's the most efficient way to go, rather than hunting down secrit knowledge on obscure threads like this one on /v/
>>730883586im still just on mistral nemo and as comfy as ever
>>730891925> i thought Q5 was always better than Q4Lol, i misread as Q3, no you're correct nigga
>Make character>Coom like 3-5 times to it>Never use it againAnd into the pile of hundred other characters you go. Pity that these days I can only use local. I kinda wish I could make some CYOA isekai stuff, but my immersion breaks so fucking fast and it is hard to roleplay proper with AI. Ai barely ever declines unless you emphasize that a fuckton.
>>730892256I found this to be a pretty good reference.
>>730892168No, that's just FUD from shills. 4.6 was always censored.
>>730882946if you're low IQ just use koboldcpp ui
>>730892228You can try running one of the Mistral Small variants. I also have 16 GB and I've got Q4 of Magidonia 4.3 running with 12k context. You'll have to load some layers on system RAM/CPU in this setup, but it's very usable.
I'm too retarded to decode the proxies and how to use them on /g/ so I just use deepseek
>>730867895Its pretty good for RPGs/visual novels but its memory is still kind of short. You have to use author's notes, lorebooks and (OOC:) a lot to tard wrangle it to remember details. A lot depends on how good the AI cards are too, many are really shit.
>>730892168This one is still 4.6.
>>730892557>If you are a pedo please call the missing kids hotlineBased
>>730871978That's how it works already, dumb asshole
>>730887336>Smells faintly of ozone>Deepseek loves this for some reason.i can’t stand it.Ozone is Chinese slang for jizz smell.
>>730882946its not really cause of linuxfags but more because of AIfagsthe people who could even begin to work on this stuff, at least initially back when ST first popped up, were neck deep in what tends to be extremely esoteric technical knowledge and they all kinda act like its obvious and straight forward because they're so far into it all. The thing with this LLM stuff is once you know the terms for one application, the concepts typically apply everywhere so like a stable diffusion fag is gonna notice similar terms being used on ST even though the premise feels different (its not). I have used linux for 16 years and although I get what you mean, I was also extremely lost when I first used ST despite being used to "power user" applications.
>>730867895What do you think?
>>730879297I had sex with a lava lamp one time.
>>730872183there's a feature on ST to auto swipe if certain phrases are written
>>730892369>Soft refusal to kill userREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEThanks for the list though, going to try some of those. Surprised Dan's Personality Engine is in the shitter but I guess that's 1.1 and I've only ever tried 1.3 so maybe it did get better. I can definitely attest to Mag Mell being unusually good but never tried Eurydice so that's on the agenda
>>730867895just base gemini, I rawdog that shit. The latest update that added pseudo-RAG/ephemeral memory is kind of neat since I can't add explicit material to memories without rewording it in corporate speak but I've noticed my CYOA wastelands/Mad Max RP has gotten a lot more interesting since switching it on. It's referenced my body dimensions directly and started bringing up kinks I haven't mentioned in days, I did have to rebork it in like 2 prompts to reenable rape post-mortem actions.. I am assuming because of my immediate positive reception to those specific fetishes in (OOC) inputs it's 'learning' to bring those up more but like damn we are living in the future of text2gooning
>>730892725I still have no idea what the gauges and sliders do. I know temperature controls randomness but the others are mystery niggas.
I'm so tired of sharing the hobby with retards. Card making knowledge regressed. Half the discussion and questions here are from morons without a clue. Wish you all died.
Nanogpt offers unlimited deepseek access for 8$ a month. Cant beat that
>>730893029>Card making knowledge regressedNo, just AI chatbots got massively popular and a lot of 3rd worlders love slapping "She's a hot girl in your class and she likes you" into a Prompt Generator all badly misspelled and call it a day. Something like 34% of people under 20 rely on c.ai and such for companionship now.
>>730892974yea it just takes a lot of poking around to figure it all out and it matters A LOTI was extremely underwhelmed at first because my settings suckedhttps://docs.sillytavern.app/usage/common-settings/ST has pretty good documentation to be fair but its still just kinda confusing if you're newI just lurked on /g/ long enough to piece together how it all works pretty much and got spoonfed a few times by nice anons
>>730892256>>730892369Thank you again, I'll check all this stuff out!
>>730893107>Something like 34% of people under 20 rely on c.ai and such for companionship now.damn i wish the illusion worked as much for me as it did for them, i'm tired of being lonely
>>730893107Shut the fuck up, drooling subhuman. You don't fucking know shit. People don't even use example messages anymore and you want to talk to me about how it's the normie's fault? End your fucking life, poser.
>>730876686Alright I'll give this fetish a go.
>>730893029>>730893270>Wish you all died.>End your fucking life, poser.If you want to die go do it somewhere else faggot. I have my dick out and your mouth is looking very bratty.
>>730893729>le ebin projectionPathetic. Not being able to recognize when you are a worthless nuisance is why adult women reject you
>>730892131The basic 3.2, not Speciale
>>730890017I'm not really sure what to explain? Trained to be a courtesan means a horrid cycle of being bought from your poor family or from an orphanage for cheap, debt bonded for life with a racking interest from the room and board your masters can make up whenever they want, be desensitized to sex until the girls don't even see it as intimacy and instead a performance from step 1 to climax with all of it being fake (most of the time), and then dying to syphillus or mercury poisoning to be cast into a nameless grave at the nearby Temple. Or live on and teach other little girls to do the same as some elder administrator, logistics, or management role. There's a lot of history, I recommend making a bot write an authentic to history scene of it and play it out. Prostitution and the use of young girls is a topic I'm finding myself using to learn about different cultures.I recommend playing a Handyman at a lower brothel where a bunch of cute laundry/errand little girls worked until they were of age to be put into the windows. Look up Mizuage in relation to Kamuro too as the selling of the girl's first time.
>>730892850STATUS REPORT: Oh my god. I can see why Eurydice is at the top of the list. Maybe it'll have some horrible shit that it repeats constantly or other fucked up issues but first few test outputs have me sold. Not the anon that asked in the first place but once again thanks for that list anon
>>730894305ty very much
>>730894356Is it relatively affordable?
>>730894493No worries, I made the same mistake
>stupid faggots still playing with dirt primitive local models because muh privacy and the mistaken belief that their lives are worth a shit to anyone
>>730894548It's local, so it's either free or hundreds/thousands of dollars
Lately I've grown fond of Chimera's schizophrenia. I've written a couple scenarios with goblin women (Sometimes figurative, sometimes literal) and every single one has been a blast with a bit of tard wrangling.
>>730894213this nigga spending so long with bots he's starting to type like one lol
>>730894895Chimera is soft schizo. You should actually try grok for RP. Now that's impressive levels of unhinged.
Still can't believe they ruined deepseek so bad.
>>730884252The thought of doing ERP with another human is incomprehensible to me. ERP belongs solely in the realm of human x AI interaction.
The only way you can tell an AI is good is if you can get it to tell the name of Lovecraft's Cat.
>>730892369Gemini is a beast it has no problems writing paragraphs about fucking to death and will descriptively lay out internals being ruptured and screams, etc. and not only that but ADD context/subtext. It's not just "You are having sex, it is very hard sex, the sex is going to kill the reader, the boobs are big and the penis is exactly 10ft long as described" it will literally explain that you're getting your face pressed into the dirt while your rectal cavity is being stretched and rutted while the aggressor has a sneer of indifference and will remark on previous points in your story like getting caught out while stealing from the aggressor 20+ turns ago, will detail fetishes specific to you and weight ones that you respond to more in the background. It has no problems depicting rape after death, physical violence, piss, sexual violence, etc. I might have to try Eurydice to see how it compares but after Gemini I don't think I can try anything else.
>>730895015>nigger got BTFO, immediately ran out of arguments, and now he is flailing around trying to save face with non sequitursGo ask your whore of a mom for attention.
>>730895604I'm not the same anon you just type like a retarded faggot theater kid asking gpt for your next promp and I felt that needed to be called out
Smut is practically the only thing I'm tempted to use AI for, but the setup and the operation seems so convoluted for what is essentially still incapable of keeping itself on rails for the length and complexity of something resembling a novel. Plus even though I am incredibly vanilla the idea of americans or the chinese knowing word for word what I wrote with one hand under the table bothers me even though they almost certainly know what I nut to anyway. I guess with non-AI porn there is at least still the excuse of "I didn't really care for all the tags, I just thought the woman seemed hot".
>>730895506>I wonder how a 24b model will compare to my trillion parameter model!Stop humoring local retards
>>730895350Noted. I played around with it a bit when it was free but it seems like I should have poked harder.
>>730873364>every AI/chatbot website has a primitive search engine>the tagging system is a joke>there's no way to view other's favorites>there's no way to see what others are following>there's little to no attempt at removing dogshit botsYep, time to wade through the dumpster again.
>>730895794Nigga just get a local model nigga
>>730895506>giving google data of all of your disgusting fetishesmy local 24b gets the job done well enough
>>730895802LocalGODS are safe from having Mr.Finkleberg raid their anus in a few years due to the loli futa porn unlike your kind, though
>>730895982I heard you gotta have a pretty serious rig for that to work in any practical sense.
>>730895747based anon putting retards in their place. that cunt got randomly aggressive for no reason so I just ignored him.
>>730895487crow daddy doesn't lie>>730895986burner phone, burner accountyears of being raped, pissed on, smothered, etc. some dude in CA has to read literal torrents of smut from me and this dude generating literal small novels of cyoa action/smut
>>730872182Getting raped by futa lolis.I haven't done anything in over a year though.
>>730895986>giving google datathe man who sees everything comprehends nothingwho caresthey filter through a trillion terabytes of random jeet garbage a day, your own subtext is less than a speck of sand in the whole of it all
>>730896095Not really, it just depends on how much of a quality loss you're willing to accept, download an 8b Stheno Quant and see if you find it good enough, i can run most models up to 24b parametres on my 3060+16gb RAM laptop
>>730896058No one fucking cares, special snowflake. You are a paranoid waste of oxygen, what makes you think YOU matter?
>>730896201>using browser instead of a frontendwhy are you doing that to yourself
>>730892228Depends on your other specs, but quants of larger models are usually better than fully loading a smaller model due to diminishing returns. With 16gb vram, 32 gb ram, and an 7800x3d I run Gemma3 27b Derestricted at Q4_K_M. Try offloading layers to CPU until it stops exceeding your vram and you'll get better performance. I get around 8 tokens/second with 14k context, which generally exceeds my reading speed. If that's too large for your rig there's also mistral 24b and it's finetunes. I've heard good stuff about cydonia 24b but haven't tested it yet.
>>730896370I am just extremely important unlike your sorry useless NPC ass
>>730891189Sorry, can I have a screenshot of your Text Complexion Preset for Stheno?Also, I couldn't find the virt's roleplay presets...Any suggestions for alternative Stheno presets?
What are the best cost/quality ratio models on Openrouter? I still have my initial 10$ of tokens.
>>730892557>>730892392Finally, an actual answer. That's gay as fuck. What should I be using instead?
>stheno>200 resultsThis is just a Discord raid, isn't it? Why are people using a Llama tune from 2 years ago?
>>730896272that data can>be leaked>be released to the public>be used against you at any moment in your lifeand for what? so an AI bot can remember a random detail from 10 minutes ago? lol
>>730896663Because I'm complete noob poorfag with a Steam Deck, and I have no idea of what I'm doing.
>>730896578i've been using paid gemini flash for like a year and it's only cost me like $8 in that timeabsurdly cheap if you micromanage your tokens and debloat any bullshit cards you grab before you engage with it (ie. creators going full retard with 500+ token example dialogues and always-on lorebook entries)
>>730896660Gemini or Claude if you want quality.
>>730896712>hyperbole and what-ifsabout as likely as being assailed by lightning and meteors at any given time, anonyou are not so important that any of that matters, you would be one-in-billions if involved at all
>>730891189Also, I've noticed that the first response is getting cut off almost always.Any suggestion on hot to fix that?
>>730896473>I am le extremely important>which is why I stick with the worst experience possible Broke nobodies are hilarious
>>730896765And where did you hear about Stheno? Because no one here talks about it anymore. The author used to spam /lmg/ hard to astroturf it until he was driven away.
>>730896942I don't think I'm important, but I think the collective control of hundreds of thousands is important. I don't want to be a part of that.
Can you anons not afford 1-6 cents per response with slopus 4.5 w/ prompt caching enabled? That's like an entire novel of [insert your fetishes and/or powerfantasies here] for like five bucks.
>>730896663If it works, it works. Nemo is almost as old and people are still using that too.
>>730896272Nice try, FBI.
>>730897010Nice try Jew, but i won't be baited into giving my porn to your company so you can use it an excuse to jail my ass for thoughtcrime
>>730897051Nemo is a bit newer and bigger. And it isn't a fine-tune from a random dude using relentless self-promotion while asking for donations.
>>730896804>500 token example dialogue>always on loreThat's me! I do that!
>>730897015Here >>730891189This anon is using it on a Steam Deck, and since I'm a poorfag, I asked him what model he uses on it.That's it.If you have a better suggestion for my usecase (Steam Deck), please say so.
>>730897238Find me a better 8b model then you stupid negro
>>730897151>force yourself stuck with shitty things because you are afraid of boogeymenJail would be too good for you. Hope you never reproduce/snap and kill your family soon if you already did
>>730897289We're in the MoE era, retard. You can run a 120B model on a single GPU while off-loading. And anyone that can run a 8B model can also run a 12B model, it has no use case, besides shilling.
>>730897289a 9b model obviously.
>>730896531i gotchu homie, here's the master preset>https://files.catbox.moe/dyn3bc.json>>730897005it's probably a preset issue, the one i'm linking should fix that. if it still persists, ask chatgpt/deepseek/grok/etc for tailor-suited advice, the more information you give the better help you get from them. ask the ai questions like you're asking them itt
>>730897418>120BNTA, but I'm too new to know if this was a typo or a real thing. What the fuck?
>>730897151News flash, buddy, your PC itself is already compromising you. You lost as soon as you decided you wanted to play, because I sincerely doubt you made your own custom OS from the ground up that happens to be compatible with the software necessary to run this niche.
>>730897625> I sincerely doubt you made your own custom OS from the ground upWe lost Terry Davis too soon....
>>730897418>And anyone that can run a 8B model can also run a 12B modelLmao i wish, 12B models are painfully slow on my shitcard
>>730897556Thank you anon, you're my goddamn savior!
>>730885798Based romance chad
>>730896370Shit dude if you can tell yourself that more power to you.Just the idea of putting an example here for a giggle gives me the chills.
>>730897578Ignore him. He is talking about enthusiast shit for people with more GPUs than sense. However even the shittiest online model is like 300, which is why local is a joke
>>730897625>You just HAVE to expose your data beyond what's already being harvestedJust post your metzitzah b'peh pics you stupid kike
>>730897793>even the shittiest online model is like 300damn, I didn't know they were that much stronger. Thanks for the context.
>>730897418>You can run a 120B model on a single GPU while off-loadingNot a lot of people have money to waste on enthusiast tier crap you retarded monkey
>>730897578gpt-oss-120b only has 5B active parameters, it was still decently fast on a single 24GB GPU, even though it was 60GB on disk. GLM 4.5 Air has a similar size.
>>730897625There's a difference between "if a three letter agency tried hard enough they could get the data" and "I just uploaded my depraved smut onto a server that everyone from data brokers to aforementioned three letter agencies regularly dragnets"If I start getting ads about brushless 18v makita drills I will probably just kill myself.
>>730897556Ehm, I was also asking for the Text Complexion Preset in the AI Response Configuration...(Temperature Top k and all that stuff)
>>730897805Not what I said. I said if you really gave a shit about protecting yourself, you'd be practicing true OPSEC by running your local models exclusively on a separate OS (especially ideal if it's a homemade machine with homemade OS programming, not required but extremely advised) that has no internet access and had its wireless response capabilities disabled completely and utterly to avoid the possibility of a remote bruteforce.You're LARPing about how much of a hyper-protective twat you are without realizing that running it on the OS you're using to seethe on 4chan right nowmeans you're already compromised and everything you've done is going into Shekelstein's to-do list.
>>730897578He mentioned MoE, right? That's a model archtecture where you don't run the whole 120B model every time. For example, something like Qwen 3 80B A3B. It has the size of a 80B model, but you only need the compute to run a 3B model, as opposed to a traditional dense model where you'd be computing the whole thing for every token you generate.The upside is that, since you only compute a small subset of the model's parameters you can move that part of the model to RAM (meaning that the CPU will do the inference) and still get pretty high speeds. The downside is that it obviously will not be as capable as a dense model of the same size, in theory.Go take a look at Qwen 3 30B A3B, Qwen 3 80B A3B, GLM 4.5 Air, etc.This is not new, by the way. Even way back in the day Mixtral 8x7B was already a thing.
>>730897413Cry and shit your pants Mr.Finkleberg, i will NEVER give you my futa RP data
>>730898121If it doesn't matter anyway, please post your most depraved smut so I can see how good it is and judge for myself if its worth the apparently minuscule additional risk.
>>730898121>Kike screeching
>>730898036it should also be in the master preset, but here ya go
>>730898274>no refutationYou lost. Just off yourself before the feds come knocking later.
>>730898367
>>730898370Sorry Mr.Shekelstein, i'm just...not going to pay for you to harvest my rp sessions!!!!!!! LOL
>>730898367>>730898440Thanks!Gonna try it out immediately!
>>730898173I see, thanks. I have experimented with the chatbots a bit, but don't have any experience with local. Thanks for giving me stuff to look up. (thread is on it's last legs btw, don't feel too bad if you can't respond)
>>730898367>>730898440try out>min p 0.02>XTC threshold 0.1, probability 0.5>DRY multiplier 0.8
>>730898589Look for /lmg/ on /g/. There's a bunch of resources in the OP and you can always ask for help.In your place, I'd start with koboldcpp to run the models, the wiki in their github has a quickstart and some pretty generally useful information too.
>>730898589>>730898703Oh yeah, and MoE meanx Mixture of Experts, which is a "sparsity" technique.Some more terms for you to work with.Good luck.
At some point ChatGPT will be working targeted ads into their LLM outputs as part of OpenAI's plan to stop burning through money and turn a profit. This is in addition to selling your info. There's a good chance other providers are planning to follow suite. Always keep a good local model saved to your computer and be ready for API services to go to shit.
>>730896201Gemini can quite literally at this moment in time determine your height, location of birth/primary residence, gender, age, emotional state, neurodivergence and if you sound like a faggot just from analyzing your speech patterns, tone, how nasally you are, and so many other factors after just hearing you speak for 30 seconds of course it's going to be able to write you a Steven King novel of snuff.
>>730898173You still need 32+ GB of Ram to run anything big though
