>>730879392
Great game, still doesn't beat TP tho

>>730879392
better than wind waker, but thats about it

It's probably been at least 10 years since I played it. I didn't get very far, but I played the Wii version on my Wii U, and found it very comfy. I just bought the HD/ Switch version, which I haven't played yet, but I'm looking forward to trying it again.

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Does the Switch port actually improve on anything?

>>730880124
Wind Waker is kinda shit desu

>>730879392
After BotW and TotK I and many others owe this game an apology

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retarded looking, needy, jewess princess

>>730879392
Third best classic zelda

>>730879392
8/10
Good game, fun, Kino, and better than Wind Waker.
>>730880321
Fi is considerably less intrusive, iirc bird flying is faster, and you no longer have to waggle to do anything if you dislike that.
Otherwise, it's the same game. If you didn't like SS, it's not magically going to make you like it.

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>>730881053

I can't look at her without thinking of a certain austrian who dropped out of art school
(no, not that one...)

For what its worth Zelda going obstacle course isn't a bad idea.

>>730879896
Better be careful cause liking that game is a huge no no.

>>730879392
Perhaps the slowest Zelda game ever made.

>>730879392
Sex with Fi.

>>730880998
>Right-handed Link
>Collect random junk to upgrade your stuff
>Item durability
>Stamina system for climbing and running
>Parries and perfect parries
>Menu navigation that is just as jank as the N64 menus in the water temple, because it's using the available hardware wrong (Gyro based menus on the Wiimote, what were they thinking?)
>Deemphasized use of tools in favor of just sword swinging
>Constant low-effort pick-ups like Goddess Cubes and friendship crystals and korok seeds scattered everywhere
>Mismatched pseudo Wind Waker aesthetic for enemies and non-humanoid characters, and uncanny humanoids that aren't quite in the WW aesthetic
>Heavily reused and remixed assets making up the bulk of the content
>All the good content is in the desert area
>There's some kind of mechanic that obviously took up most of the development time like timeshift stones
SS was just a prototype for BotW/TotK, sure the open world slop replaced the more rigid level select screen of SS, but aside from that it's not that different.
>>730886694
>Dialogue is unvoiced
>Nothing happens
>It's just dialogue scrolling
>No, You can't skip it
>It takes 10 seconds for the game to laboriously scroll its way through just one text box
>No, you can't speed it up
>The game will give hints constantly one after the other
It is weird how many basic errors made their way into this game.

>>730879392
>great dungeons
>great music
>great supporting cast
>great waifu
10/10 in my book

>>730880321
The text scrolls faster and can be skipped.
The opening of the game, which used to be like an hour minimum, can now be beaten in 20ish minutes iirc.

Such a good OST.

>>730879392
I liked it desu.

>>730879392
Still the worst Zelda game, still the game that killed the series.

>>730889387
>jank as the N64 menus in the water temple
The boots should’ve been toggled with the D-Pad.

I replayed it last year. Can't believe it had been 13 years. I really loved the first desert area. Just immense sense of being in a place. I cant put it into words but absolute reverse of botw dungeons. I remembered the sand ship being a lot better. I would rank it as the worst dungeon now. Cistern was goated

>>730881053
Everyone in Skyward Sword has a bulbous nose, not just Zelda.

>>730891924
That's not BotW.

>>730880892
Yes

>>730892913
BotW happened as a direct consequence of SS being so terrible, so yes, SS killed the series.

>>730891924
>>730892913
You guys are silly, if the series is dead how come new games keep coming out?

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>>730894602
ghost

>>730894726
>unfinished game in A
The Zeldafag of today has negative amounts of taste.

>>730894656
my favorite kind of woman

>>730881053
>needy
You never had a woman love you before?

>>730894827
>BotWfag
>Zeldafag

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>>730894726
I almost agree with your list. I'm doing a replay of the series this year and am on Link's Awakening, I think LOZ1 is deeply underrated by fans today. I would almost attribute that phrase to AoL since it's pretty good even though it's kind of weird in its own way.

>>730880321
makes the game playable by removing motion controls as a requirement

>>730880321
You can play the game with the stick instead of gyro controls, making inputs more accurate. There's also autosave, an option to lessen the screen UI to the point of minimalism, and you can skip a bunch of annoying dialogue you couldn't in the original, including tutorials and pointless Fi dialogue about percentages.

>>730892913
SS and ToTK are both much worse than BOTW

>>730895752
I agree because SS and TOTK are the only Zelda games I've ever dropped, yet I've still played through BOTW twice despite not liking it that much.

>>730895752
BotW and Tiktok are the same game.

>>730895971
BOTW was novel for the time, despite dooming the series forever it was playable

>>730879392
*vomits*

>>730880321
You still have to do the different slash types, but with a controller now.

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>>730880321
Text can be instantly mashed through
Cutscenes can be skipped on a first playthrough
Gyro controls actually fucking work properly now
Traditional controls added as an alternative
It runs at 60fps and it's actually jarring how it's the only Zelda game that runs at 60fps
Original save system is partially replaced by an auto-save system that works better

I honestly still prefer playing the game with gyro though. Trad controls work but mapping your sword (as well as other gyro mechanics) to the right stick means they had to come up with a button combination to use it for camera control, but I found it awkward enough to just get used to still not controlling the camera. The button mapping isn't that great either, like one of the face buttons just straight up goes unused which is kind of ridiculous.

>>730894602
Because they switched the series to Far Cry: Hyrule. Zelda as a series is dead and buried.

>>730896186
It's the same game with stupid lego bullshit tacked on. It being so similar is exactly why it's not worth completing, hence it being a worse game

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>>730879392
I had fun with the motion controls and thought it was the coolest shit ever when it came out. Being able to actually "swordfight" felt like the future of gaming.

>>730879392
Best it last year on switch and ended up liking it way more than I thought I would. If it just didn't have so much backtracking through old areas it would be great. Most of the dungeons were really great, felt like one of the few zeldas that isn't scared of challenging you a bit.
>>730894726
Is phantom hourglass really that bad? I haven't played since I was a kid so I don't really remember it.

>>730895752
>replayed BotW and Totk back to back over the past two weeks because I haven't touched them since finishing them in their initial launch windows.
>have more fun with TotK

Yeah, TotK is more fun to replay and all the stuff about " aiiiiiee bloat", or "muh vibes of BotW" doesn't really matter if you're not an autistic completionist. They both pale in comparison to the 90's Zelda era though.

>>730898620
>Is phantom hourglass really that bad?

It's the only Zelda game I've ever dropped. That being said, I may give it another chance one of these days during a lull in game releases.

>>730898396
I gave up at the first vertical and horizontal flowers

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>>730879392
I finally got around to playing it on Switch after a couple years of owning it, and I forgot how wonderful and simple gaming used to be. You don't log in and get a daily quest to kill 7 Octoroks with your slingshot to get some in-game currency to buy skins for the Master Sword. It's just story beat > world gameplay > dungeon > repeat. It might've gotten old when I was in highschool but my fucking god it was refreshing after playing sloppa for my adult years so far.

Also, they dropped the ball by not leaving Groose in the past timeline with young Impa to give him his happy ending. Also I was fully convinced that Groose was Link's Loftwing from the past considering how his hair matched. Would've been an interesting twist.

>>730890084
Tooo bad the actual gameplay, including not being able to run for more than 4 seconds straight, and every enemy not attacking Link but instead doing a weird defensive pose for 45 seconds, is garbage. Still no voice acting or HD btw. That’ll be 50$.

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>>730880321
I never played the WiiU version but if it's as bad as people said it was, I imagine it's monumentally better on the Switch. I had no problems playing on controller.

>>730881053
if you talk about my wife like that again, it won't end well for you buster

>>730879392
Loved it, one of the best Zelda ost. Wish they brought back the art style, BOTW doesn't capture that soft almost dream like look of the world.

>>730889387
>>Collect random junk to upgrade your stuff
>>Item durability
>>Stamina system for climbing and running
>>Parries and perfect parries
Playing BOTW/TOTK first and coming back to Skyward Sword, I really noticed that this game had a lot of precursor systems that ended up being realized in the next two titles.

I really hope they drop durability. I understand why it's necessary if you're going to have weapon variety but it's better to just have less things that won't break. Either that, or at least a way to repair your things. And more than anything drop the blue outfit meme and go back to the green Link.

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Girahim is such a good villain, it's almost disappointing that he's just a henchman that literally stops existing at the end when he completes his goal, but Demise is still kind of cool I guess so at least it's not for nothing.

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>>730896528
Anon...the latest title they released returned to the old formula (except you play as Zelda this time).

>>730899818
this motherfucker took up two dungeon bosses

his fights should've been outside of dungeons during the main story

>>730899932
Funny how ignored this game is despite leaning more into the formula than the Wild era games. SS HD also sold like shit too. At least in EoW's case, it's not unheard of because Zelda fans only ever screech and piss themselves arguing over the 3D entires while everything else gets ignored.

>>730900240
sorry but I simply shant be buying anything with that fucking godawful funko aesthetic

>>730879392
I have been hearing a lot of growing praise of this game in the coming months. I bet it's underrated.

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I should get around to playing these zelda games someday.

So far the only ones ive finished are BoTW and ToTK

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>>730879392
Shit game
Twilight Princess was 10x better

>>730899932
On one hand,
>the plot is back to happening in real time rather than half the story being done before you press start for the first time
>i really liked the faron and lanayru temples
>the triforce is finally fucking back
On the other,
>skyward sword infection is present
>ganon is just a clone, real deal is completely absent (last appearance was as a mindless corpse in 2013 btw)
>echoes suck so hard that testers only used them when required
>aonuma responded to this by making zelda the protagonist just to justify locking the sword behind an energy bar
>also she's a silent protagonist too because (?????)
>alttp hyrule for a third time
>they used the botk menus because fuck you
>golden goddesses have their own demise now and his only character trait is being a primordial fat fuck
>the art style still sucks
>the entire eldin portion of the game sucks
Overall, I give EOW a mid/10. I will never return to it.

>>730900240
Every time a 2D Zelda drops people go “Zelda’s back fr fr” and then ghost the game like three weeks later. At this point it feels less like they want the old formula and more like they just want to complain about BotW/TotK. Echoes of Wisdom looks solid but they'll ignore it until 2031 when some guy makes a video essay called “Actually… Zelda 2024 Was Good?” and the cycle continues.

>>730891924
>>730894549
Based and true
Shitward Sword was a disaster

>>730899565
It is in HD. HD 60 fps, your just dead wrong...

>>730902738
>Echoes of Wisdom looks solid
>looks
...So you haven't played it either.
You are part of the cycle you deride.

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>>730880321
As someone that unironically thinks its the best Zelda full stop, I agree with most of the other posts. One thing I didn't see mentioned is the Gyro controls compared to the Wii version are roughly about the same, but for different reasons. The Switch Gyro controls are far more sophisticated in tech and simply work better. The drawback compared to the Wii version though is that the Switch version desyncs far more often. The Wii version didn't desync anywhere near as much. This was because the Wii version secretly cheated with the IR sensor bar, and every time that the Wiimote saw the bar, it would reorient itself. Genuinely 99% of my friends that bitched to me that the motion controls sucked, it was because they were either playing next to a set of candles or next to their Christmas tree, so it would lock on at awkward angles every other movement, or because they didn't know the Wii had a setting to make their IR Bar stronger and then were playing like 10 miles away from it so the Wii couldn't see it.

All that to say is the one minor drawback the Switch has compared to the 20 benfits it has is that it WILL give you an OCD tic of mashing the Y button every time you stop moving to realign the controller if you play with motion controls. Which I recommend.

>>730906328
>unironically thinks its the best Zelda full stop
Why.

>>730906603
The short version without going into the full on essay about it is:

1. Zelda between ALttP-SS was not ever supposed to be an "Exploration Open World" meme, it was Exploration in the sense of solving a maze. This is the era of Zelda I liked.

2. SS is the epitome of the maze structure. Everything is a labyrinth or part of an Escape-Room style puzzle, even the outer areas of the dungeon.

3. Has my favorite town structure where instead of having 20 different towns you visit once and hear old man Jenkins talk about the mine 40 times, it's 1 town that gets updated as time goes along, so you get to hear old man Jenkins talk about how the mine shut down, how that caused a schism with his wife, how he had recently been talking to her, and just before the final dungeon you hear that old man Jenkins just re-proposed to his estranged wife to renew their vows thanks to how you listened to him this whole time.

4. Fantastic addition to the lore.

5. The motion controls were unironically great, and other than the people having legit problems with them, most people bitching about them just simply didn't WANT to engage with them from the start and hated that they were forced to.

6. Pretty much almost everything I wanted out of a prime-era Zelda game.

>>730904908
Echoes of Wisdom is shit
It's not even a Zelda game

>>730907291
Echoes is actually a really good Zelda game. you should try it.

>>730907291
Echoes is actually mid. Consider trying it but do not feel compelled.

>>730907195
>Fantastic addition to the lore
Hylia a shit
Demise a shit
The cycle being an actual thing a shit
YOU a shit

it's got a lot of problems but i actually liked it. it introduced running and stamina, and the dynamic music was pretty fucking cool. it was also the best motion control game for the wii it only took them 6 years to make it. its pretty gay swimming around the areas and doing that backtracking shit and fighting the same boss over and over, but overall it was a fun zelda experience and it officially shipped zelda and link. im gay and retarded though who cares about my opinion

>>730908163
I get where you're coming from, but to be quite honest, that kind of shit of "They're just random people" only really works in a more sandbox worldbuilding type game where the main draw is the actual world than it is the people in it. To me, the world of Hyrule was also a backdrop for the REAL story which was more about Link, Zelda, and Ganon. I think the destined reincarnations works better here and you couldn't do it in other series. As a personal anecdote, I've given this as the reason why I never ran a Zelda-inspired D&D game. It'd be too weird, cause I'm not interested in Hyrule itself, just Link, Zelda, and Ganon's stories.

What is it about this series that makes me capable of playing games back to back without end? Very few series can lay that claim on me.

>>730908727
its because you want to be link and save a princess

>>730909446
Damn, I think you're right.

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A Link Between Worlds is the better game. It took me over a decade to figure out how to put my dislike of Skyward Sword into words, but I have come around on it a bit. Skyward Sword is like an indie game in the best and worst ways possible.
>It's like a crowdfunded game that barely met its Kickstarter goal, and one of the lead devs had to get kicked out for being a massive sperg
>Skyloft is genuinely a neat, creative location, but there's nothing of significance to do. There's no cool air battles or a sky dungeon
>Ghirahem gets pushed for Summerslam and then buried
>That boss that gets reused 3 times
>Groose is great
>They reused the same maps 3 times
>Time dungeon desert is where the game peaked
>Zelda was supposed to be playable, but they cut that
>Link is basically a part of the sky police, but when the equivalent of the town's prom queen goes missing the authorities send the twink and only the twink to investigate
>Groose should have been playable and controllable like Medli and Makar
>>730881053
I love my Brooklyn, Jewish Zelda!

How Link and Zelda's are definitely fucking or WILL fuck at some point?

>>730909674
You can't convince me they aren't living together in TOTK.

>>730909729
I dunno Wild Link seems a little too aloof to take advantage of Wild Zelda's ass....

>>730910339
I never said he wasn't a retard.

>>730909486
I loved Skyward Sword but holy shit is the padding bad. Sand sea was the only good part because Fi doesn't annoy your ass

>>730906328
>The drawback compared to the Wii version though is that the Switch version desyncs far more often
The nice thing about the switch version is that there's a dedicated button for re-centering the gyro and it does it instantly. Even though it happens more often (way more often even) on the switch version it's no where near as annoying as the Wii version where you have to pause and do that rest the wii remote on a table thing when it happens.

>>730879392
God this game fucking sucks

>>730899932
Good, but I don't really like the overly cartoony zelda games

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It's so funny that the Zelda fanbase has been getting more and more split as time has gone on.

>N64fags didn't love WW and thought TP was a worse version of OoT i.e muh wolf, muh sailing etc etc
>WWfags and TPfags at each others throats
>Most people thought SS was shit (one of the FEW times the fans were somewhat unified)
>BotW split the fanbase in half with Oldfags shitting all over BotWfags calling their game empty, repetitive, boring, not rewarding, muh dungeons etc etc
>TotK split it AGAIN with OoTfags still angry over open world Zelda in general and BotWfags mad at TotKfags calling over bloated, repetitive, muh COHESION, muh nature/ambience etc etc

What the FUCK.

>>730912254
What do YOU think of the BOTW split.

>>730912709
I posted my tier list earlier in the thread. The only Zelda games I generally really don't care for are Skyward Sword, Phantom Hourglass, and Spirt Tracks. I generally to prefer the more traditional Zelda games but I don't think the Wild era games are abominations like some do. I especially find the split between BotW and Totkfags kind of confusing, especially considering I just replayed them both back to back recently. BotW is a more simple streamlined experience but is lacking in variety across the entire game making it feel kinda plain. The ending boss is also probably the worst among the 3D games. TotK has more variety and is more fun on average but has some significant UI issues. They are equal in my eyes.

I just find all the chaos within the fandom pretty hilarious and it's beyond fucked now.

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>>730908446
The trio dynamic of Link, Zelda, and Ganon work because of choice. Wind Waker has many faults, but highlighting this aspect of the chosen three was not one of them.
Rarely are any of them forced to do what they do. Link works charity about as often as he's written into action by prophecy. Despite what abject retards believe about Ganondorf, he had already chosen to lie, steal, and murder long before he got a taste of godhood. It's harder to make this claim with Zelda, but we've seen that shithead nobles are known to exist in Hyrule and she's never come close to being one of them. All three of them CHOOSE to take on their roles.
SS threw that out. None of these characters choose anymore.
There must be a Demon King. And judging by TOTK, it doesn't matter what who you are, you're basically turning into Demise once you claim your title. Might as well call the guy in TOTK "Demisedorf" because he sure as hell ain't the big pig.
There must be an incarnation of Hylia who somehow makes things worse for everyone except the Demon King. She also takes half the credit for fixing things afterwards.
There must be an incarnation of the Hero's Spirit because someone needs to pick up all of Hylia's slack (90+% of the work).
And these three will fight forever, never making progress against the other, because "the cycle" is just an even more rigid status quo...with massive bias in favor of Skyward Sword's additions.
tl;dr SS lore gay, Hylia gay, Demise gay, the cycle gay, Hidemaro Fujibayashi OMEGA gay.
Groose good.
Fi........good.