Bethesda really expects you to be excited for a game set in a land thats mostly barren, uninhabited, Saharan desert and wasteland then some cities on the coast.
i like desert environments in my video games
>>730882692>bethesda expects you to be excited for their gamePure delusion.
Desert is kinoI hope it's the fantasy version of this
>>730882793name 3
>>730882848Forgot pic
>>730882692>releases starfieldYes.
>>730882904Final Fantasy XMetal Gear Solid V: The Phantom PainDune: Spice Wars
>>730882692It'll be both high rock and hammerfell
>>730882692Had fun in Egypt in great circle, sounds like a blast
>>730883008Afganistan in V is a fucking piece of shit map. What did you enjoy about it? The barren lands with a few copy pasted small outposts with 5 guards every 500ft?
>>730882692Skyrim was mostly just one massive tundra in the center of the map, some taigas, and snow capped mountains. The only remotely interesting locations to me were the glacial coasts and that big underground area. The series in general is just real world biomes copypasted with the only two exceptions being Morrowind and The Shivering Isles.
What fauna does Hammerfell even have? Camels, nile crocodiles, desert foxes? What about ruins? I know its going to suck based on Starfield and Fallout 4, but its going to be interesting to see what they can bullshit away in this instance. Especially when they got a bunch of cities on the coast and then Stros M'kai.
>>730882692all Bethesda open world slop is empty lands, whats all the hoo-haa?
>>730882692It'll likely have desert temples buried in the sand
>>730883172>desert snailFucking how?
>>730883105riding around on d-horse playing tapes
>>730883317Hard shell, boy.
>>730882692wow i can't wait to be enriched by all the scholars and engineers populating Hammerfell
>>730882692they probably spend 3x as much on marketing and advertising as they do on actual game dev at this point
>>730883678But moisture???
>>730883968im the least racist person on 4chan but they really did NPCs dirty in this game holy hell
>>730884735Safe to assume it will be more of the same in Elder Cucks VI.
>desert>yet ANOTHER culture that hates magic>niggers everywhere gonna be a pass from me. will watch the inevitable TND speedrun though
>>730882692modders are able to make this interesting desert environments for free so bethesda should be able to as well, but we all know that they are too incompetent and retarded to do so
why do you retards keep thinking that hammerfell is literally completely empty like sahara or something? its just a complete synthesis of northern africa and the middle east which has a huge diversity of biomes, flora and fauna. pic related is lebanon, for instance.
>>730885214Because we're explicitly told that Hammerfell's interior is largely sparsely populated desert and the overwhelming majority of the Redguards line in coastal cities
>>730885297Just like Cyrodiil being an impenetrable jungle
>>730885297>Hammerfell has a variety of environments, ranging from temperate to tropical climates. The coasts in particular are vibrant with plantlife, and biomes vary from open grassland, subtropical beaches, humid swamps around Tigonus, temperate woodland mountains around the Dragontails, forests around Hegathe,[10] and thick jungles such as the Bantha.[11] The Alik'r desert is found in the northwest, with the barren wastelands of Dak'fron found towards the southeast of the desert.i still fail to see the issue with this. this is how morrowind was as well, where the coasts were more populated while the center of vvardenfell was mostly ashlands and red mountain territory. i obviously have no faith in bethesda, but thats besides the point.
>>730885297since when has todd howard adhered to the established lore
>>730882692They are hopefully retconning that like in Oblivion, Cyrodiil was supposed to be a jungle
>>730885297This is reinforced by the map. Nothing is there at all, but you're a fool if you think Bethesda won't retcon and bullshit a bunch of bandit holds, ruins, Dwemer bullcrap or outposts. I mean logically by their own lore, Hammerfell would have less engaging content than Morrowind. I guarantee you its gonna be a Fallout 4/Starfield situation where its randomly generating nonsense across the desert and building settlements.
>>730885720>This is reinforced by the map. Nothing is there at all
Do you think the success of stat based games recently will force Todd to reintroduce them in ES 6 or will they dumb down the gameplay even more? That’s all I care about.
>>730884219Shell stores water.
>>730886035Bethesda is led by a bunch stubborn AND spiteful motherfuckers who actively enjoy giving the middle finger to all criticism and doubling down on whatever they're being criticized for, so no unless Microsoft or Zenimax forces them to
>>730885006Bethesda lack the talent or vision for anything good. They are the most milquetoast game devs imaginable.
>>730882692Before TES5, Skyrim was "a land thats mostly barren, uninhabited, Icelandic tundra and wasteland" yet that game managed to create a dozen biomes outside of 'generic snow'. Out of all the reasons to be fearful of TES6, this one's the most retarded.
>>730886438yeah i straight up think the thread is filled with anons incapable of imagining a 3d, colorful apple in their head.
>>730885680Yeah bro, can't wait for Hammerfell to become High Rock 4.0 after High Rock 3.0 (post-ESO Summerset Isles) and High Rock 2.0 (post-Oblivion Cyrodiil)Really that's all TES should be from now on. One large temperate medieval woodland setting just like muh favorite D&D sloppa
>>730882907Unrelated, but what are the chances you are just straight up not allowed to play as a nord? Or at least, if you are, they'll forcefully say one of your parents was a redguard or something.Do you really think a current year game would allow you to play as a blue eyed blonde as the Swordborn?
>>730886035Starfield was, mechanically, more of an RPG than Fallout 4, it's just that the other 90% of the game was worse than Daggerfall.
>>730886145Just seems strange. Like seeing butterflies near volcanos.
Hammerfell is Arabian Samurai Nights: Pirate Edition.If they can't make that interesting then they deserve to be put in prison. It's going to be Highrock anyways because Bethesda is allergic to creativity and ambition.
>>730886438>a land thats mostly barren, uninhabited, Icelandic tundra and wastelandThats what it is right now ingame. Nothings changed its still Nords barely scraping by in subzero temperatures in crappy holds with mudhuts. Not to mention many of its strongest cities border either High Rock, Cyrodiil or Hammerfell.
>>730882692I am so fucking sick of deserts. Laziest environment for the laziest game devs, BOOOOOOORING
>>730886649/pol/ack derangement
>>730886778All modern games are written by committee and quintuple checked by HR women type people. I can assure you they'll not allow it, otherwise you'll have a situation where most people end up playing as a nord or imperial when given the chance.
>>730886649>Or at least, if you are, they'll forcefully say one of your parents was a redguard or something.Man why would your mind even go to this route over a fantasy game series? Get checked for brainrot or something for your entire bloodline's sake.
>>730886883Do you even know what game you are discussing? Shut the fuck up, holy shit, you're making an ass out of yourself.
>>730886745Yeah the difference is that old nords were all badass extremely violent tribal barbarians spiritually connected to the wind and storms while nu-nords are slightly angrier blond imperials
>>730886649...so are you genuinely retarded or merely pretending
>>730887028How is this wild? Starfield does it. You have pre-set parents.
>>730882692Hammerfell isn't just the Alik'r Desert which takes up the northwestern portion of the province but a variety of biomes. You have jungles, grasslands, marshes, forests and mountains which if Bethesda is smart they'd spice these up with flora/terrain you wouldn't see on earth but I heavily doubt they will.
>>730886745>Thats what it is right nowIs it? Because Whiterun's plains are different from the foresty high altitude area near Solitude which is different from the denser foresty low altitude area near Falkreath which is different from the near-autumn warmer colors of Riften which is different from Morthal's swamps which is different from the hot sprints between Riften and Windhelm which is different from the actual "oh shit we freezing our balls off" sections in Windhelm, Winterhold, Throat of the World etc.There's more variation in Skyrim's biomes than in Oblivion's. Hammerfell could 100% have just as much variation between habitable beaches, actual desert, swampy forests, jungles near the Dragontail Mountaints, etc.
>>730885858>>730887358>High Hrothgar>Wrothgarian MountainsBravo Todd
>>730882692bikini armors make more sense in hot environments
>>730885680And thankfully it wasn’t. The whole "the empire was actually just a bunch of white Indios making money by farming rice and living in a jungle" was retarded af to begin with since neither Daggerfall nor Morrowind showed Imperials like that
>>730887382Skyrim is like a themepark, everything you listed is one small area where over 3/4 of the game is just snow, mountain, tundra and ice. This has been a complaint about it for over 15 years now, you don't gotta shill so hard.
>>730882692I refuse to play Bethesdaslop
>>730887382>plains>foresty high altitude>denser foresty low altitude >near-autumn warmer colors >swamps >hot sprints [sic] >"oh shit we freezing our balls off"All of those are in Oblivion
>>730887573Lorelet retard, The Imperials you see in Morrowind were colovians not Nibenese and Imperials literally did not exist as their own separate culture/race in Daggerfall since in pre-redguard lore Cyrodiil was literally an empty grassland with only the Imperial city in the middle whose purpose in existence was being a battleground for the races that exist then to fight on
>>730887754Idk seems your problem is that there's no alien biomes like Morrowind rather then a lack of variety. I agree that having none typical earth biomes is far more interesting but it doesn't change the fact that Skyrim has decent variation while making it stay reasonable for the climate ie no jungles.
>>730887615>everything you listed is one small areaAnon pls>>730887754They're all far more sparse. You have swampy Leyawiin, sandy Anvil, Skingrad has red trees and Bruma has snow. That's it.
>>730883172>What fauna does Hammerfell even have?Wormmouths
>>730882692pretty sure FO4 was the last game Bethesda made unironically.
>>730882692Arabian Nights stories are kino. What's not to like about this as a setting for a game?
>>730883172>What about ruinsobviously pyramids, some kind of khajit sphinx thing, that buried treasure cave from Aladdin, the buried library tower thing from Avatar The Last Airbender, etc
>>730887775>ALL of cyrodiil should be a heckin jungle based on a rice growing economy because Kirkbride said so in a random post >ummm akshually NOT ALL imperials are based on the Romans and European architecture you see in Morrowind Get a grip. What we’ve got in Oblivion was way more accurate and fun than a bunch of tropical palm trees and jungles. Not even Brazilians live in jungles and destroy said jungles because they’re inhabitable.
>>730890207>>ALL of cyrodiil should be a heckin jungleNot even the document that information comes from ever says that the entirety of it is jungle you dumb nigger>because Kirkbride said so in a random post The "random post" is the Pocket Guide to the Empire, literally the founding document of modern TES lore from which i guarantee nearly everything you like about each race and province's lore ultimately comes from>>ummm akshually NOT ALL imperials are based on the Romans and European architecture you see in Morrowind Yes, they literally say that in the old lore, and those same Morrowind Imperials you're fixated on describe Cyrodiil as mostly a jungle when you ask them about it, which you would know if you actually played the game. also how the fuck does Roman architecture suddenly make the place not a jungle?I.E, kill yourself secondary
>>730890207>What we’ve got in Oblivion was way more accurate and funIt was a fanfiction-y LOTR sandbox.
>>730890785>fanfiction-y LOTR sandbox.Sounds like game of the year
>>730888349They have these things in Beyond Skyrim
>>730890549Same pocket guide saying the jungle was razed? Again it doesn’t make sense and it doesn’t matter because what Todd says is lore + just go to the southeastern part of Cyrodiil if you want to see a jungle. >>730890785Funny how this only gets mentioned here because Kirkbride said so in a post about Todd. End of the day if you want a jungle, just install a mod even if it looks off
>>730891428For retards that were 10, played on console and would go on to praise Oblivion with guns as a milestone in RPGs a couple years later, yes.
>>730891549>Same pocket guide saying the jungle was razed?It doesn't nigger, it says that Cyrodiil IS mostly endless jungle, in the present tense, as do the NPCs in Morrowind
>>730882692They already released starfield
>>730891549>this only gets mentioned here because Kirkbride said soAnon, it was mentioned oh so many years before Kirkbride confirmed it. The game's not exactly subtle about it.
>>730891595>>730890785
>>730891883>demaster
