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It's over.
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i can't name a more mechanically dead-end genre than MMORPGs
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This only last a couple years, right? lol
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>>730889418
Thank God Amazon won't be doing the LOTR mmo anymore.
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This is why dedicating so much time to an mmo that isn’t one of the big 3 is retarded
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>>730889418
>Gets released
>Fries a couple of GPUs
>Goes offline
Kek
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>>730889475
Every genre has been mechanically dead-end since the early 2000s.
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>>730889657
Third person shooters and puzzle games have made lots of strides in recent years
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>>730889630
>the big 3
WoW Classic, FFXI, and LOTRO?
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>>730889630
>the big 3
this is why the genre is a dead-end genre
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>>730889630
>your choice of mmo is tranny game, tranny game, tranny game.

Grim
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>>730889794
I imagine the third MMO is either Runescape or ESO. Guild Wars 2 was big back in ze day, but I don't know if people fuck with that shit anymore.
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>>730889418
>try to make heavily pvp-centric MMO
>realize pvpers are a small minority of MMO subscribers
>desperately try to re-develop your game into a more traditional pve MMO like WOW or XIV
>comes out half-baked on both fronts, plus half-baked on the tech front with every other week it was remotely relevant being about some game-breaking glitch or exploit
>updates do nothing to finish baking it
frankly the only surprising thing is it didn't happen sooner
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>>730889794
WoW Classic, WoW Hardcore and WoW retail*
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>>730890147
>>try to make heavily pvp-centric MMO
works for EVE
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>>730890245
It does not work for EVE, only the most dedicated of autists can hope to progress in that game
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>>730889418
Did Amazon quit the gaming market yet? Everything they've done has been a pretty big disappointment.
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>>730890405
I hope they quit the market of all media forever and go back to being just an airfryer shop
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>>730889418
I remember once reading that they were gonna make it a single player game, is that true?
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>>730890582
This, they haven't made a single decent thing. Man in the High Castle was mediocre at best.
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This was the only major MMO release of the 2020's.
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>>730893276
>>730889794
Why does Genshin impact not qualify as an MMO?
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Imagine being worse than Throne and Liberty. That's impressive. They couldn't even put out an MMO on that level.
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>>730889879
>how come the tranny genre has only tranny games
retarded tranny
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>>730890147
>>realize pvpers are a small minority of MMO subscribers
its not that. The DEI human resource women who worked at amazon got into the game and were horrified at the gamer words pople used in pvp so they made an argument that PvP caused toxicity in the game which would harm the game long term and the moneybags involved agreed and made the devs do a 180 and turn the game into something else in 1 years time. Thats why the game was delayed and they blamed covid
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Warframe exists.
Now I'm not saying warframe is good, but it's proof in the pudding that we really don't need these gay rotation based fag games that are tied to the holy trinity.
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>>730890297
good
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>>730893354
because its not an MMO
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>>730889418
>>730889475
I thought this was a soulslike?
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>>730894879
Nah, it's more like guild wars 2 with some runescape autism sprinkled in
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>>730889639
Hey, suits said it'll bring billions! They are never wrong... Usually!
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>lets make a pvp mmo guys
>the most important part is that we half-bake every single mechanic. nothing should have any depth, everything is just endless grind until you tick a box, and then you get battles a predetermined times
>also, no player freedom! extremely important! no player cities and villages, FUCK THAT SHIT, everything has to be a predefined set-piece or arena
>also, the usual, ban players for typing one of the secret no-no words like "stfu", no REAL paying customer would ever use those words anyways, don't like it? don't play the game LMAO
>uhm... why is nobody playing our dogshit game? wow.... looks like... we have to switch off... the servers... F... we are unable to explained why it failed... we just did everything to make it as unattractive as possible... how... strange... *dies*
rest in piss bozo
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>>730894879
runescape with real-time combat, neat in concept but devs mismanaged literally everything

you're forever stuck with WoW-likes, Runescape or Warframe if you want your MMO fix
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>>730895120
>Runescape
no wonder it flopped, runescape is pretty much a blueprint for creating some of the most cancerous mmos
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>>730895108
I hope this is not copypasta because it perfectly explains the situation
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>>730893354
Because you can't see more than 3 other players at a time, by definition MMOs are about having numerous real time onscreen players interacting with mostly the same world, including enemies and collectable resources.
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>>730895515
nta, but I always thought MMOs were about the player molding and forming the world according to their desires. like in ultimate online or SWG, where people could build villages everywhere.
this mmo dream slowly died with retarded theme park mmos like everquest and wow, and got revived thanks to survival crafting genre (while not "massive", you would still get worlds populated and changed by hundreds of people, no server looked like the next one).
the success of games like minecraft is a prime example of what the majority of mmo players actually want of a game
>able to run on any machine
>absolute freedom in changing the world, building and creating
>mod support
and the best part
>no fucking daily chore quests or poopsock raids, mechanics designed for the utterly insane
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>>730895108
don't forget the 500 duplication exploits that ruined the economy and how crouching gave you I-frames in PVP
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>>730898249
that reminds me of the deflation problem the game had because gold maintenance was so high, nobody wanted to trade their gold away, and instead used items as currency
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>>730897937
MMOs used to be like that til carebears decided that they deserve to traverse the entire world all the way up to the gates of the enemy faction without any adversity. Even UO has PVP flags now
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>>730894746
Exactly. Just because a game has co-op or some online elements doesn’t make it an MMO. Genshin is a glorified gacha ARPG with multiplayer tacked on. You’re not in a persistent world with hundreds/thousands of other players shaping it in real-time. It’s instanced coop at best. It’s as much of an MMO as Monster Hunter.
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>>730889949
OSRS is def the 3rd. ESO has been in a death spiral since '19. Covid gave it a playerbase jump start like it did a lot of other games but its dev team was just too fucking retarded to capitalize on it.
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>>730889418
Just think this time next year you'll be renting your PC's from Amazon
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Their fault for going woke and changing the original conquistador vs aztec theme of the game due to muh racism or whatever.
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>>730900203
over 90% of osrs "players" are bots, alts, afk, bank standers, mobile, gamblers, inside instances, 3rd world goldfarmers, scammers, etc.
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>>730893354
The 'massively multiplayer' part of the name refers to players (ie you run around a world where you can see and interact with players). Genshin is more of a open world game that has live service and multiplayer elements
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>>730900203
God I wanna enjoy ESO so bad but I just can't. It's got so much content, enough for thousands of hours probably, but that combat is so fucking boring holy shit I get bored of it in under an hour. OSRS's point and click combat is more fun, somehow.
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>>730901982
You can try brighter shores, it’s like osrs
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>>730901330
Wow it's literally every other mmo!
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>>730893354
Because it's a singleplayer mobile gacha game you fucking retard



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