How would you balance shotguns?
i wouldn't
>>730892779They are already balanced>low ammo capacity>long reloads>heaver/ bulkier ammoI have no idea why devs feel the need to lower their range to melee ontop of that.
Jill should not be using gunsshe should be on all fours surrounded by zombie dobermans
>>730893069This
>>730892779Armor system similar to Helldivers or Tarkov.>Shotguns generally tear apart anything that's unarmored>Helldivers has certain enemies that come with various levels of armor, requiring skill (aiming for weakspots) or brute force (keep shooting to destroy the armor first)>Tarkov allows for different ammo types that allow better armor penetrationAlso give them some actual fucking range. I'm tired of shotguns having nonexistent range. The two mentioned above do shotguns justice by giving them some decent range.
Just make them strong as shit at close range and weak at long range (this doesn't mean make their spread wider than OP's mother's legs on any given night), reload slowly and/or have relatively scarce ammo. A shotgun blast at close range SHOULD feel strong and meaty, it should be satisfying, not wimpy and weak.Also fuck all of the REmakes, I don't care what people say here, amid the myriad of other problems one glaring issue with them is that all of the guns sound weak as hell and feel about as strong as a wet fart.
>Everything within 50 yards of buckshot dies instantly
>>730893623If you can just load slugs into shotguns, why do rifles exist?
It's a single player game, fuck balance
>>730892779Balance is for fags. I'd make them fun. Realistic range. Powerful. Loud.
>>730893959Because 99% of shotgun barrels are smoothbore? Most slugs aren't rifled either.
>>730894667And?
>>730892779I member Max Payne 2 had some of the best ones I played with in vidya.
>>730894736It's not accurate at long range that it can't pull headshots while bullet hoses can deal with it with tap fire. Also, damage drop off.
>>730894736Is the existence of slugs for use in shotguns the only thing you know about firearms?
>>730893959I ask the questions here.Why DO rifles exist?
>>730892779>would you balance shotguns?No.
>>730895050>>730895051And? All you are doing is explaining the flaws of a shotgun, not why rifles exist despite that.
>SPYou don't. You give me hallways and dragon's breath rounds you cucked dev.>MPLimited ammo or special guns that don't have ammo on the map.
>>730895090Because they're more accurate from uuuh, 200 or 300 metres or more and videogames never have engagement distances that large.>t. noguns
>>730893959because slugs are a middle ground, shotguns do not carry the rapid fire capability, magazine sizes and long range accuracy a rifle can provide
>>730892779treat them like rifles that are weak against armor
>>730893959more accuratelonger distancelighter weighthigher ammo capacityless recoilfaster reloadscan penetrate armor
>>730895137rifles don't have those flaws, seriously WTF is wrong with youthe most powerful penetrating slug in existence means nothing if you miss the target with it
>>730895275oh ok, thank youthe rest of you suck ass at teaching
>>730895137>why rifles exist despite thatThat's easy, they made rifles first. The real question is why they kept making rifles the standard when shotguns are better.
>>730892779The pellets don't really spread that far, it's just a visual effect
>>730893959>If you can just load slugs into shotguns, why do rifles exist?this used to be an "issue" on helldivers, there was a slug shotgun what was one of the most precise long range weapons, while packing a mean punch. You could take out devastators in a single shot to the head, so naturally it was nerfed.Or maybe it was nerfed because it could open bunker doors in one shot, I don't know
Rifles exist because most firefights tend to happen at longer ranges than 50 meters, so having rapid fire at consistent accuracy and penetration is more important than having a bunch of infrequent peppering.The issue isn't balance. The issue is that most games don't have firefights at more than 50 meters, so shotguns kick ass.
>>730895720>it could open bunker doors in one shotThat's one of the purposes why shotguns exist and are used. Read up on breaching rounds anon.
>>730892779Low ammo, limited ammo space. You could rock around with 20 shotgun shells or 200 9mm.
Why do shotguns exist when FBI statistics claim rifles incapacitate a person in one shot most of the time?
