Post spinoffs superior to the main series
>>730893263I played gates recently, weird they made a Pokémon game about the blackpill
Pokemon consistently has top tier spinoffs>Snap>Mystery Dungeon>Pinball>Colosseum>Pokken>From what I hear Conquest and Ranger are also goodetc
>>730893581Turns out giving the pokemon brand to quite literally anyone besides gamefreak can produce kino, who could’ve guessed
>>730893581snap is overrated as fuck. but game freak sucks so i won't even disagree
>>730893405What?
>>730894597The plot of the game is about the world ending because everyone is becoming a cynical asshole and the villains are a death cult that want to accelerate it.
>>730893263Persona
>>730893263You forgot this>Pic unrelated
>>730894814Gates is the last PMD game exluding remakes, right? Or is Super its own thing?
>>730893772I consider this to be a legitimate argument for abolishing IP law.
>>730895331Super is its own thing. Probably the worst story, but a pretty good game overall.
>>730895331Super is another PMD game. It's also way better than Gates.
>>730893263Might and Magic and Heroes of Might and Magic
Superior to entire main series is a bit much, but I much prefer MGR to MGS5.
>>730895664only shiteaters like mgs5 so that's not a tough choice
>>730893581playing ranger 2 along with explorers of time in 2008/9 was a kino experience i stand by the idea that spinoffs are what made gen 4 remembered so fondly, the mainline games don't hold a candle to them
>>730895536Maybe it's a common opinion, but Super had the best partner.
Crossworldfags need not apply.
>>730896458>>730893581I played both Ranger 2 and 3 and both are absolutely kino. Especially Ranger 2 story-wise mogs every mainline in its simplicity but strong impact.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k6aM1U5ecU
>>730896604i didn't have a console or play pc games very much at the time, so ranger 2 was likely my first proper experience with difficult bosses i'll never forget how much of a bitch dealing with the rampardos and drapion were
>>730896591Based, might be the GOAT kart racer
>>730896604I never played Guardian Signs, was it as good as Almia, I remember enjoying that one.
>>730897837>I never played Guardian Signs, was it as good as Almia, I remember enjoying that one.it's been a while but yeah it's was a good, but more focused on gameplay iirc
>>730896821yeah i remember that drapion on the ship very well
>>730893263New VegasStranger of Paradise
>>730893263Final Fantasy has many
>>730896591I will always prefer Riders personally, but I can't argue that it's a great fucking game.
>>730893263PMD is kino. Too bad its fandom is filled with faggots and troons, much more so than the mainline. It pisses me off to no end.
>>730895536I wanted to like Super, the mechanics were good but it felt tediously fragmented with all those tiny filler dungeons on different islands and the animation you have to watch after every recruit was so annoying. Also the music will never match up to the DS games
>>730896591I don't understand how they could knock it out of the park like this and then follow it up with abject mediocrity.
>>730898684Crystal Chronicles as well
>>730900804Man, I haven't thought about those fill-in-the-grid art threads in a long time. Time is so cruel to the people and things we love
>>730893263Builders is the only good DQ game.>>730894993he said better not casualized garbage.
>>730893263SOUL
>>730901626>was deleted for the sake of an event
>>730899951The standout for me were Emeras/Looplets. That is a concept that feels designed explicitly for Level 1 Dungeons but man were they overtuned, not to mention they didn't fit in the main story at all.I want another PMD just so they'd try and refine that mechanic a bit more. And also delete wands (read: stackable orbs).
At this point Mario Kart left mainline Mario games in the dust.>>730896591>>730897557It's true. Ez part of the holy trinity.>>730893581This. Insane what happens when competent devs are in charge, even Snap 2 is better than mainline devs.
>>730901626>ways to die>was transformed into a friend
I'm kind of surprised they didn't make a Pokemon game primarily marketed to girls that really leaned into the Pokemon Contest stuff, with a component that was essentially just Nintendogs but with Pokemon.
>>730894010Snap is great, just shortI've seen people who barely like Pokemon get super invested in it
>>730893581>RangerMy only memory of Pokémon Ranger is absolutely FUCKING up my DS screen with gorilla-handed circling.
>>730902338It's just part of the scripting that converts enemy pokemon into team members when you recruit them, having a message for it probably made the code more readable during development or something. That's a really good video though, I wish there was more PMD reverse engineering autism like it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjIcJAJVSbw
Sometimes I feel like the only person who played these.They're not that good to be honest but it makes me wish there were more action Pokemon games.
>>730893263Fuck the gay demakes. Look at the soulful original art compared to the sanitized demake image.
>>730903965Notably the original images were drawn by Sugimori, back when he was still a good artist
>>730893581pokken is asbolute trash
>>730903727>Sometimes I feel like the only person who played these.Sell them to me, I've seen these mentioned in good light before but doubtful of trying them
>>730893263PMD itself is an inferior spinoff of Shiren
>>730904360I miss crispness of the Hoenn style so much man...
>>730899054Why did he do it?
>>730904467It's been a while since I've played them but they're baby real time action games where you play as Pikachu (original) or Pikachu and the Unova starters (sequel), run around levels, complete minigame challenges and fight other Pokemon and bosses
>>730903727I already knew about it beforehand, but seeing the PokePark name in last year’s Pokemon Presents only for it to be the theme park still stung, regardless.
>>730904870Sound like a chill type of game like Kirby Yarn, which is fine by me
>>730893263recently replayed red rescue team MAN that game is good
>>730903727I played the FUCK out of the 2nd one, 'member joltik sitting on the back of the garbodor.. KINO!!!
>>730893263I finished this a few days agoHow long would it take to recruit them all?
>>730904418What's your criticism of it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH_Zl2Rgl5M
>>730905375Too long, and very difficult too.
>>730903727I played and liked both a lot, i still remember this theme a lot>>730905186I had the reaction, it was disappointing
>>730905375By far the fastest way of recruiting everything is to speedrun that Jirachi dungeon and wish for a new friend at the end. It always gives you a pokemon you don't have and you'll get anything except legendaries. After recruiting and evolving everything that's easy to get just by playing normally you'd still have to run it like 250ish times I bet.
>>730893263I once thought that Mystery Dungeon should replace their mainline franchise for a few entries before pivoting to something else. I still feel similarly, just change the stagnant game already.
>>730899054>Too bad its fandom is filled with faggots and troonsIt's furry shit so yes
>>730905856Forgot the link: https://youtu.be/0XfYCCDNa78
>>730893581>hasHad. Now it's all just mobile slop because developing spinoffs became too expensive for a franchise that pinches pennies as hard as Pokemon.
>there was no Gen 7 PMD game with Ultra Beast antagonists and Ultra Space dungeons
>>730906568the later pmd games sucked anyway
>>730893263new vegas obviously
>>730904623What is the best Shiren game?
>>730903965thought-provoking image
>>730906903If new PMD games sucked as much as SMD did I'd still be pretty satisfied.
>>730903965>Download demo to see if its any good>graphics are fine>music is amazing>attack first enemy>pokemon automatically uses a move>Check moves>Have a complete versatile moveset>no way to just attackKinda ruined it for me and I never ended up buying it. Its a full price game so it was probably the right call since its basically a 3d remake of the og game with no new content just that arguably worse combat change/casualization and some qol.On another note Nintendos pricing is still bizarre to me. How come they so rarely release something that isn't full price? And why do they never lower the price of anything? On top of things only ever putting games on sale at completely random times and only 30% offI mean Prime remastered is probably the best and most high quality remaster they've ever put out yet its cheaper then normal but virtually every other remaster is full price like theres no way DKCR and luigis mansion 2 should be full price
I annoys me how the protagonists lose their scarf upon evolving
>>730903727The first was one of if not my very first pokemon game. Was peak baby game but I was the target demographic at the time so I enjoyed it for what it is
>>730907502Nah, they sucked even worse. Hell, basically all the switch spinoffs sucked
>>730893263Make way for the definite Pokemon spinoff title>>730905972This, this fucking series literally only exists for merch and mobile shit anymore
>>730907683>On another note Nintendos pricing is still bizarre to me. How come they so rarely release something that isn't full price? And why do they never lower the price of anything?They've been like that forever. It's part of marketing. Higher priced game with barely any sales means it's a higher quality game. They even branded a Nintendo Seal of Quality back then.
>>730908370I wish this one was a bit harder. It didn't take me long to make a decent enough Rain Dance deck and steamroll all the fights that didn't straight up require a completely different deck, and even those weren't too big a deal. The ghosts at the end put up a bit of a fight at least.
>>730896591>getting this game after watching Wreck-It Ralph.
>>730908428Its pride incarnate. They are definitely losing money from the practice. Like whos gonna buy tokyo mirage sessions now for full price? If it was $30 you might see some sales every now and then. I bet you they see zero sales a year from that game these days.
>>730905375too long like the other guy said>want mew?>rare random spawn on specific floors of a 99 floor dungeon>want kecleon?>ROFLMAO. >O>F>L>M>A>O>.
>>730909291>rare random spawn on specific floors of a 99 floor dungeonWasn’t that Mew or something? I remember running through that place, caught Mr Mime on the early levels and he died at like lvl 89 which was fucking bullshit, but what was even more BULLSHIT was that apparently Mew is supposed to have a guaranteed friend chance, so when I got to the floor where it said she used transform, I found her and killed her, and she just fainted away like WTF? Huge waste of time that place.
>>730909291Mew actually isn't that bad, it actually has a normal recruit rate and the fact that it'll only appear once per floor means at least you know when to move on. If you can handle a 99f dungeon you'll get a Mew. Kecleon does suck but it's basically just stacking all the recruitment boosts, stealing something on your strongest pokemon, and just waiting until you get one.Individual bastard pokemon like those aren't the problem at all, the problem is the insane amount of grinding you'd have to do to evolve everything.
>>730893263gonna be honestI hate the gameplay of the PMD seriesthe story is great, but I fucking hate getting raped in the ass because I went left instead of right in those games
>>730901626>was possessed
>>730901626I remember the unseen force thing spooking me when I saw it as a kid but its not even scary
>>730910446Then go left retard
>>730910446pro tip: hit enemies to kill them
>>730910446Play as a Treecko and generate a wonder mail that gives Bullet Seed as a reward.
>>730910446That's what revive seeds are forAlways kill Grimers, Muks and Dewgongs on sight, go with a room wide move if you can
>>730911414my last playthrough of red rescue team was as a skitty that little nigger is so overpowered for no reason
>>730903965>muh baby slop isn't edgy enough>inb4 "why change it then?"why indeed
>>730893263this series made me gay, furry, AND into tf. thanks gamefreak.
>>730893581Even the shit like Poke Puzzle is fun and well-made. Also, I thought Arceus Legends shit all over Sword/Shield
>>730911572skitty trivialized blue/ red and is also still pretty good in explorers, but riolu turns the entire game into babby mode
>>730908370Pokemon Pocket just made me want a new TCG game with decent single player even more (and no, the online PTCG doesn't count, I don't want to play stall coinflip simulator, it's fucking boring)
>>730893581Too bad about the Legends games, but they were made in-house so makes sense. I mean I thought Arceus was like a neat prototype but Z-A shat the bed.
>>730913151shut up, remake cattle. literally just defending worse products for the sake of brand loyalty
>>730905380too poplar
>>730893581Conquest is less a pokemon spinoff and more a Nobunaga's Ambition spinoff
>>730914291Did you play the other games in the series?
The first PMD's been decomped so you might see some ROMhacks for it soon
>>730893581It just proves that pokémon is in better hands with anyone else than GF desu.
