AI killed video games
works fine on my macine
There is practically endless supply of good old games that can be played with a potato for free.
>>730900615My video games work ok?
enjoy the plateau retardsyou wont have to upgrade or buy a console until 2030+
Any recent igpu can play older good games just fine
Should have bought harder.
The same people making complete garbage threads on 4chan are also poor. Poors are subhuman.
>>730900615I don't think AI had anything to do with it.
Nah it will be fixed by next 3 yearsChina is refusing western chips and making their own at an alarming paceAI bubble will deflateThis is assuming no WW3.
>>730900990can confirm, currently playing alpha protocol
>>730900615A small price to pay so right wing Facebook profiles can finally illustrate their "points"
Thank God I upgraded my system early last year. I'm set for a few years.
>>730902139SameAlso they'll have to stop pushing hardware requirements higher and higher if they want to keep selling games, thank god
>>730900615>rumoredly
Don't care, already have a flagship model
I just wanted a 5080 Super so I could play at the top of 1440 and not worry about it for another decade.I've held for over a decade, 1050ti best ti
>>730903840I upgraded my 1050ti to a 3060 12 gig a couple of years ago. I'd suggest either a 5060 if you have the $300 for it or this 1660ti if you're a total poorfag.https://www.amazon.com/Gaming-GeForce-GTX-1660-Ti/dp/B089CX9PX3
>>730904323Nah I have money, and that's a good recommendation. It's literally a >have two 1440p monitors and want to attach them to a prebuilt and never touch them again>5080 Super would be the card that tops out 1440p so assuming the computer doesn't die I never have to fidget with optionsIn theory anyway.
>>730901287What’s funny is that capitalism is about the line going up forever so when this bubble inevitably pops, even though the company will objectively be hundreds of billions of dollars of actual cash to the good, heads will roll like trillions were actually lost
>it's time for AMD to shine>somehow they'll still fuck up
>>730900615Nvidia is no longer a gaming company anymore, Chud. We like billionares jerking each other off here
>>730900615>devs will have to work with existing hardware and learn to optimizeAI is saving video games
AI didn't do shit. This is just another avenue that the ultra wealthy are using to exploit economies because noone is going to stop them. Just the same as Tesla is valued based on the apparent notion that literally everyone on Earth is going to buy more than a single car from them.Securities fraud used to actually mean something.
>>730905076>implying this ever happen during memecoin shittery in the last 15 years.
Threadly reminder that if you're a right winger, you effectively voted to kill your own hobby
>>730904964A hundred years of AMD fucking up a golden opportunity and people still don't think AMD is controlled opposition to sell Nvidia stonks.
>>730900615So? I have a 5070.
AI is actively ruining the internet and society and will probably cause a societal collapse>Is abused by a significant percentage of school children; denying them a proper chance to develop their critical thinking and writing skills and ultimately leading to a generation of retards who can't think for themselves and rely on AI>Is used by jeets and SEAmonkeys to pollute the internet with garbage that is objectively rotting the minds of our youngest people, setting them up in life with fried dopamine receptors>Will ultimately usher us into an era where we won't be able to tell what is real and what is not>Genuine videos of politicians and the elite fucking kids will be dismissed as AI generate and whistleblowers will be accused and charged with generating AI child porn>Dissenters of the state will be framed with AI videos of them fucking kids>Will be used by world governments and corporations to generate footage of war crimes and terrorist attacks that will be used to influence military action>Will eventually be deemed necessary to supervise the internet for wrong think in every corner of the web>Will eventually be used to engineer a gene bomb
>>730900615ASUS just announced they're stopping all production of the 5060ti and 5070ti due to RAM shortages. https://www.engadget.com/gaming/pc/asus-has-stopped-producing-the-nvidia-rtx-5070-ti-and-5060-ti-16gb-saying-theyve-reached-end-of-life-162012253.html
>>730904964They already did. They're not giving FSR to older gen cards when it's proven it works well and they're about to release AI slop drivers that no one wants. They're a bunch of fucking retards that are only successful because Intel is a fuck up company
>>730900615LLMs are not AI
I boughted a 5070ti last night while the price was still $830. not going to let the waitfags influence me after hearing the entire year might be shut down from gpu supply. upgrading from a 3080
>>730901027wait fags...win again!
>>730900615All you had to do was release GTA VI. Took too long, so the industry isn't interested anymore.
AI will vibe code how to download more ram and make more gpus
>>730907763same. I got it for local AI and its twice as fast as the 3080. i couldnt care less about playing dumbed down AAA moviegames at 4Kbut its nice to have a silent card, my 3080 FE had some serious coil whine
>>730907868AI will download more bonzi buddies and clippy instead.
>>730900615well of course there's no new gpu's this year, they come out every 2 years!!
>AI killed video gamesit's also killing itself. with daily censorship and lobotomization.I don't know what the end goal is.
AI is basically VR x100.Complete with largely being shilled by porn addicts.
I will just continue to play on my current PC, GameCube, PS2, 3DS, and NES systems until they break or I die. If I last longer, then I'll just move onto something else.
>>730904841Thanks. I've never considered it worthwhile to push past 1080p, especially now that GPU prices are so insane. $500 is the most I could justify spending, which is more than enough for the resolution (5060ti or 9060XT, both 16 gig).
>>730901287Nvidia would rather destroy the game industry than go back to selling gaming gpus. The levels of profit in the AI bubble are so ridiculous that it will permanently warp anyone's expectations of revenue.
>>730913263Gaming industry destroyed itself by making nothing but shit games for the past two decades. There's no point in making new hardware when the games will never get better.
>imaginary hardware for a market that will 'supposedly' existJust like they did with NFTs
I bought a 5070 Ti for 700€ 6 months ago and I played zero (0) games on it.I can't believe I spent my last prime years of gaming waitfagging with an ancient GPU and then I bought a new one right after I lost all interest in gaming. I have so many games on my backlock that I desperately wanted to play but didn't, and now I don't even have enough interests to look them up on steam let alone play them. I genuinely have more fun making spreadsheets in Excel or writing emails. How did this happen? It feels like yesterday that I was a teen frying my brain on Titanfall and now I am an old man who likes Excel. This shouldn't have happened.
>>730907381Some of these predictions will be accurate, because we're witnessing their beginning TODAY.
>upgraded my entire rig last year just before the GPU and RAM spike>the most taxing vidya I play is just modded Skyrim
>>730914230just play a spreadsheet sim like eu5
I'm thinking of just giving up on having a high-end OLED monitor and getting a 1440p mini-LED instead so I don't have to worry about burn in or having a powerful pc and can just enjoy games while still having it look better than my old ass IPS. I really have no idea how much monitors have advanced in the last 9+ years.
>>730914230works exhaust you to the point you lose hypes on playing the game. brains don't have same hypes and energies anymore
Remember to torment the demons living inside your computer as revenge for the high hardware prices
>>730916936>gigantic ass next to existential dreadThe true ST experience
>>730913263why should they when they have like millions of bills to pay now. selling to plebs isn't profitable in the scale of the company has become
The future is literally cloud based processing power. Local hardware will be reserved only for the rich. It's been a long time coming and the sheeple aren't waking up yet.
people really believe it is Ai while nobody ever knows if the resouces that make these things ever truly have a shortage? All we know is through some press that is controlled by nvidia so they can control the mass consumers again
>>730913263Funding ≠ Profit
>>730917245Nvidia does profit since they sell infrastructureThe ones that are struggling financially are the ones selling AI services and getting loans and investor funding to buy infrastructure and develop the models. They are literally trillions in debt
>Pour 100 of billions of dollars into a black void promising investors AGI>You create a product that everybody fucking hates because it's the most jew product in existence and literally brings out the worst in humanity >Why do you all hate AI you're literally ruining the planet give me your sheckles>Idea>If they won't give me their money, we'll force them to give us their money >Create artificial problem>Offer subscription based solution
>>730917365Thats still not profitable when you're selling to people who can't ever make money
Not my problem.Got 5090 in November and still underused.
>>730903840Pick up a 3080ti you can get one under 500 bucks. Does well at 1440p
>>730916936What the hell did you say to that Judy Hopps bot
>>730900615It's not just AI. There's no demand for powerful hardware anymore because nobody cares about new games. The majority of games played are from decades ago and the few recent ones that people care about have piss low requirements.
>>730920441You're so full of shit you know that right? Read any article about this retailers say demand is high for these cards but supply is low to nonexistent. Stop making up shit you nigger.
Based Jensen
>>730917849Yes it is. Nvidia is being paid with fresh hard loan cash, if the AI companies can't pay those loans back later that's their problem, nobody will come knocking on the door of Nvidia for it.
>>730900615My new 3060 will last me the next 10 years.No, I am not interested in GTA6 cuz I still haven't finished gta5 and even if I were I don't automatically play at ULTRA in every game. I turn down setting until I deem shit acceptable so long at it performs above 70 fps
>>730900615Graphics are good enough anyway, we don't need more.
>>730900615All good games have already been made, retard
>>730900615but you can play every single video game worth playing on a 10 year old gpu?
>>730920815they've really been good enough since Red Dead 2it never had to get better than that
>>730900990Yeah, I don't get what everyone is freaking out about. Millions of games exist, old and new. And they can run on a rock. Are we just LARPing? Pretending we care just because?
>>730914230I was fortunate to where I stopped caring about newer games (because they're bloated and blurry as fuck even with DLSS4's transformer model), but the GPU upgrade still benefit my productivity workflows (Maya/Blender/).
>>730900990Yah, like what game do you need to play that requires an RTXX 8000706?Cyberpunk works fine on my 3060 and I dont see myself playing anything much more demanding than that.Also, I just play medieval 2 mods 90% of the time anyways.
>>730921908I will say, Cyberpunk's path tracing mode made me wish more games supported the thing. Shit feels less like a constant reminder that it's a video game when I'm seeing light sources bleed through walls, or shadows being cast that aren't quite correct (eg. as if they're floating an inch off the ground).
>>730921908Cyberpunk works fine on my GTX 1080 evenit just can't do ray tracing that's all
>>730921908I feel kinda sad that I don't care about new games. I was watching a video earlier of something like 100 games coming out this year. Some beautiful games to be sure, but I didn't see a single graphical delight that made me want to play it. Nothing that would pull me away from my spread sheet simulators and pixel shit strategy games.
>>730900615Tell me 1 (one) GOOD game that my 3060 12GB can't run.
>>730900615PC gaming is dead you mean.
>>730921981It's actually a constant reminder that you're playing a video game because it has fucking god awful ghosting at all times and any time you move the mouse the edges of the screen fade in/out.
>>730921998The game had to run on an Xbone/PS4. I would hope a 1080 could power it on high w/ the RT eye-candy off.
>>730922116XBOX is basically bowing out of the console market and PS5 has no games so console gaming isn't doing so hot either, unless you like Nintendo and they haven't really put out anything great recently either
>>730922189very easily, 60-80fps 1080p High Settingsall I need honestly I'm not sure exactly where it caps out in terms of new games it can't play. I know it can't handle FF7 Remake but who gives a shit.
>>730922180You get that in full effect with the game's default TAA implementation. Transformer model addresses 95% of it, and I've yet to try the new one that's in beta.Ideally devs would stop with the temporal slop in the first place, but that's been inplace long before the RT push.
>>730900615Back in March 2025, I went to micro center and waited in line for a possible shipment of 9070xt. I was like 10th in line and, by some miracle, the shipment that came in had like 20 5090s. I couldn't pass up a chance to get a 5090 Astral; $3300 post tax at the time. Afterwards, I thought about it and I was kind of ashamed I wasted so much money on the GPU. I was also scared to try to sell it on discord/craigslist/inperson shit. Too many thieves.Looking back....should I have kept it?
>>730900615>massively inflates the price of computer hardware>everyone from consumers to small businesses getting priced out>all services from data storage to netflix rise as access to compute has to compete with AIwe are basically experiencing the early stages of a tech Weimar, people will no longer own PCs. AI geniuses didn't figure out who will use their products when nobody can afford that shit anymore
>>730922395The ultra-long-term goal of these Techno Feudalists is a world where the average citizen has maybe one smart device, a very rudimentary one, that can access data servers and cloud services on a rental-service basis for their "daily needs"YOU don't need to be able to run high-end games natively. YOU don't need to be rendering AI yourself. That's dangerous. Only the Tech Aristocracy should be trusted to have access to this near-magical technology. The Hobbits cannot be allowed to know the secrets of Dark Elven sorcery. Read Curtis Yarvin, they're all acolytes of his philosophy
>>730922395>people will no longer own PCsJust say death to X86, embrace ARM. Long as Raspberry Pis are still under $100, your non-modern gaming PC needs will be met.
DLSS 4.5 is a scam.10-20% performance hit on my 4070 Super. this is how jensen tryna force me to buy a 5090 for 4k bux.
>>730901287>tfw bought jensen stocks in q1 2024 for 10k bux
>>730922960Any game I have headroom above 120fps on, that I can't afford DLAA on (which seems to be roughly half the games I play of late), I'll use DLSS4.5 on. The image clarity boost over the previous transformer model I'm fine with having to knock down one or two settings to maintain, at least until we're over this garbage fucking "upscaler mandatory" era of games.
>>730923116well im playing in 4k so im already struggling to hit 120fps in most games. however the ultra performance preset looks pretty damn good now in dlss 4.5 at least
>>7309231701440p here. I can't ever see myself targeting 4K at 120, especially with how heavy modern games are, and I like having RT features on.
So what's the quintessential "I waited too long but I still think I'm OK for 5 years" card?3060?
>>730923245Still the 1080.
The bubble is going to pop soon unless we see an actual massive use case for AI. Companies WANT AI to improve productivity, but it's just not. They're firing people, and sitting there, looking at ChatGPT, and basically saying, "make us more profitable, please." It's a technology built on the hopes and dreams of raping the lower class, which is why there's so much investment.
>>730900615What if they make ai and ai makes software that makes even the worst computer be able to run some powerful games?
>>730923959Yeah, that's their goal. AI generated slop games. Shitvidia is spending billions upon billions of developing an AI that will emulate physics. It works for both their robotics, but also can be extended to companies or game engine creators as a way to make their engines "more efficient". Imagine, why calculate actual physics or lighting, when an AI can hallucinate it? Just cache and stream, let the players scream. Amazing. Sugoi even! Everybody can get ATX 8090 performance at a fraction of the cost! "Real frames" they're all fake anyways mouth breathers!
>>730923396seriously?
Isn't this the ultimate panacea for gaming? Will developers stop chasing graphics and start making interesting games?
>>730923419They're creating the case. They're literally creating problems so they can offer AI as a solution. It's the only way to climb out of the extreme debt they all took on a retarded gamble. Trying to make the public organically dependent on AI backfired, so now this is where we are at. AI companions will definitely become a thing, they'll try to remarket the term PC from personal computer to personal companion, meant to exploit lonely people with disposable income. They'll integrate it into your OS, and I mean really integrate it, not this tiptoe bullshit that CoPilot is. We're talking LLM used to search in Windows Explorer, ads spammed on your desktop because of the AI constantly harvesting ALL data you put on your computer or browsers. Data centers? Produce jobs for a year, then promptly fire everything, keeping a skeleton crew, while draining the strained water resources and electric grid of the states they're leeching off of. There's jobs to be made there! Fucking final stage of the jewpocalypse and everyone is fucking asleep. WHY DOES NOBODY CARE
>>730923245Nah, dog I got a 3060 12GB specifically to last me up to 2032.
>>730900990Cope
>>730916936>Remember to torment the demons living inside your computer as revenge for the high hardware pricesWell? Don't leave us hanging, teach us how (and give us the whole "The Breaking of Judy Hopps" story)
>>730924267You should look into the shady shit that went on in Ohio to oust the Lt. Governor so he couldn't run for Governor, to clear the way for Vivek Ramaswamy so he can drain the state dry building data centers there. You might enjoy going down that rabbit hole or you might already know all about it, but what you're talking about is very real and happening right now. A new Landed Technocracy is rapidly buying up resources and things that most people don't even know are valuable yet.
>>730924185Unless you really want to play Alan Wake 2, Doom TDA, or Indiana, the 1080 still plays everything modern you throw at it.
>>730907710They are. >b-b-but!!Nobody cares for the semantic games you play to boost your frail ego. LLMs are like pokemon and they're everywhere Grok, ChatGPT, Gemini and they're all called AI by their creators.
>>730924593that's pretty impressive
>>730900615>No new GPUS this yearGood, the 5090 is more than enough, and should be future proof for at least 7 years
>>730924940those nvidia products are real good
>>730924406It's happening in my state right now. They're "unanimously approving" projects that will literally fuck all of us over. We live in a desert. The data centers are going to drain our already strained water supply. Our electric companies already boosted our rates last year. In the summer I had an average hill of 500 dollar and peaked at 600. This was while being conservative. The fucks already confirmed they are going to bump our prices 35% more this year. The data centers they're building here DON'T EVEN BRING JOBS TO THE RESIDENTS. They literally just bring in people from overseas or do contract work. It's so fucking dystopian. It's like every one has seen the writing on the wall and has decided that if nobody gives a fuck, then why should they? Leave the problem for someone else to figure out. We are so beyond fucked and people don't even realize it yet.
why does it take my GPU like 20 seconds to generate AI pornbut during gameplay with frame gen it can create images in milliseconds?
>>730925135AI has always struggled with the details of the human body more than anything else
>>730900615No good video game has ever needed more than 6gb of vram and thats pushing it
>>730900615Let's be a positive Polly, this may lead to an AAA crash and an AI crash at the same time. :)
>>730925135Something like DLSS 4 basically take 2 of your frames, divides them, then chugs it down with optical data and shits out a frame. Much easier than generating futa cock since image generation happens through denoising. They start with a literal canvas of noise then have to do calculations to decide how to make that girth cock appealing to you. Much more intensive and complex of a problem than looking at frames and data that already exist and guessing what fits between them.
>>730925135Because the porn is created from nothing but a bunch of static and the machine needs to make that static huge boobs, while the fake frames are created from a previous image or some shit.
>>730925542hopefully generating futa will take less than a second some day
>>730907381Honestly, I'm not sure if AI will ever get good enough to make some kind of gene bomb but everything else is pretty valid here.Kids are seriously having their brains warped by cheating with AI at school, its so easy to do and requires no effort and also make no attempt to teach the children about any of the garbage they copy-paste in.I know people have always cheated at all levels of academia, but AI is so brainless and non-interactive about it. You don't even need to skim the text or question it, just type in what you want and it will vaguely spit out words that look good enough, at least with old cheating/copying you had to change most of the words and find a decent site slightly down the search results if you wanted to be safer about it. AI will just generate a semi-unique block of text so you never have to even ponder the words.Very crushing times, I'm glad that video games don't need more than 6gb of vram and that all of the current GPU options are powerful enough to absolutely slaughter any game thats actually good and graphicsslop.
>>730907548Why the fuck would they release universal fst? AMD is not a charity.
>>730925135Takes longer to make something from nothing vs. inferring a fake frame from the previous frame + provided motion vectors.
>>730904964I just find it funny that FSR4 is still worse than nVidia's transformer model, and that nVidia also just released a new version of said model that lets you trade some performance for even better results.
>>730922695That shit can't even run old mmos, never mind host it.
>>730900615nVidia isn't videogames.
>>730926282makes sense, but frame gen is crazy fast
>>730925119Did you try not living in bumfucknowhere flyover desert?
>>730926419look at this wannabe janny
>>730922695>He doesn't knowshit is fucked beyond fucked
>>730925119It's gonna get a lot worse unfortunately, I don't have anything optimistic to tell youThose people who want that kind of world are winning and their strategy is both brilliant and going off so far without a hitch
Then again, if one were to boughted a 5090, you most likely won't need a new PC ever again, or at least until 20 years from now (assuming no hardware problems like the card frying itself).You future-proof more than ever before, because no developer will ever require more than this and subsequent gens will be only miniscule % better
>>730926605yeah if you got a 5090 you're set for basically forever
>>730900615>blaming the tech but not the greedy kikes who abuse itYou sound like the goodest of goym.
4080 Super or 7900 XTX?
>>730926515They only increased the price of their RAM modules $10 last I looked.
>>7309267139070XT
>>730926450You call it fast, but it's still too slow for what it does to your input delay.>>730926713How much do FSR3 artifacts bother you? If the answer is "not much", then 7900 XTX.
>devs cant tell you to upgrade your PC anymore as an excuse for their shit optimization>every poorly optimized game will just get shit on relentlessly like MHWildswe're finally free
>>730926605Bro all they do is lock the new releases behind new cardsYou’re the type that really believes Borderlands 4 can’t run without a fucking a brand new card, when it looks shittier than 2
anybody try DLSS 4.5 yet?
>>730926795Borderlands 4 is a bad example because you'd have to pay me a very lucrative hourly sum in order to force me to play itThere will be outliers but badly optimized games will start getting shit on way more and sell way less.I have a GTX 1080, the ONLY reason why I consider upgrading to a 5090 is because I want to be VR ready/have a workstation on top of it and play some games that require RTX (like FF7 Rebirth).Other than that RTX filter, I think I'll be set for a very long time after that.
>>730926932Take the goalpost out of your ass faggot
>>730926743But muh VRAM
>>730926791>he thinks they will FINALLY optimize shitlollmao even
>>730926605>>730926932I'm simply not paying 3000 dollars for a graphics cardsorry
>>730900615What's stopping you from renting computing power?
>>730929386I need to own things to be happy.
>>730914230same ngl i hate the game industry as a whole, bunch of wankerssome games are ok
I'm comforted that there are so many still using the GTX 1080I thought I had been left behind
>>730929886no a lot of people have autism
>>730929886I was on a 1060 until last week. If I had a 1080 I'd probably have stuck with it, but 6gb VRAM was becoming insufferable where games looked two gens behind on anything but high texture settings, because no one authors textures properly anymore.
>>730900615skiggerxisters, we won! we did it! we stopped games from getting killed!HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
>>730931225if things really cap out you'll find people wishing they had a 1060I have a 1050ti sealed in the box and I'm hoarding it like viking gold now
>>730913263They were selling more gaming GPUs than ever before. It's not their fault that some retard bought up 40% of the global RAM supply, fucking everything up.
>>730904964>>730906815I'm sure AMD is magically immune from the RAM shortages that are causing Nvidia to pull back those cards. Retards.
>>730922960The reason for using 4.5 is that it looks better. Also I'd be surprised if you're getting a 20% hit on that card.
>>730934685it depends on the game. on average its 15% across multiple games according to benchmarks
>>730901287pretty much all of that in dark green is government money. When they say investors are driving it, what they mean is investors are taking massive loans to drive up datacenter construction and trading that debt between several other AI companies to drive reported revenue.But in the end, it's all debt. they aren't any more profitable than they were 10 years ago. As long as no one calls it, it's fine.
>>730907381>ultimately leading to a generation of retards who can't think for themselves and rely on AIThat's the goal tough.
>>730900615>AI killed video gamesI was playing video games using 386SX in the 90's. I've experienced some of the best games out there while I was a teen playing on my GeForce 6600.New goyvidya card in not gaming. You can experience most of the gaming history with popato tier iGPUs nowadays.AI haven't killed shit. It just crippled your ability to consoooom newest and the shiniest.
>>730903569the fact no one else itt noticed this is proof /v/ is almost exclusively jeets now
>>730900615This is a sign the Chinese will invade Taiwan this year. You won't be able to buy stuff and they're making sure you're aware of it before they do it.
>RTX 5070I should be ready for the upcoming apocalypse, right?
>>730936697>not tiso close yet so far
>>730932071My 1060 had a good 8 years of hard use. Surprised it lasted that long. It'll still be my backup card if this new one dies for whatever reason. Worst case, I also have integrated graphics on this CPU as the fall-fallback, which is enough to play my old go-tos, just not ideal.
