Why are they trying so hard to shut down AI in video games?Are they stupid?
Shut the fuck up, you waste of space.
>>730907358I bet that "girlfriend" is a tranny.
>tfw no ai hating gamer gf
>>730907358No, they aren't stupid, but that's a very stupid question. The anti-AI people aren't happy with the fact that AI will replace them. Would you be happy if AI posted on 4chan and you weren't needed anymore?
this story already sounds false because I doubt anybody would publicly announce something that retarded
>>730907468The only people who are against AI are trannies, faggots, and literal retards.
>>730907358>theyDoesn't sound like a nefarious conspiracy did this.
>>730907358What was the game?
>>730907358Based gf
>>730907468>Would you be happy if AI posted on 4chan and you weren't needed anymore?>he doesn't know
>>730907468For example, if I removed all the stupid people from 4chan, it would look like this. How do you think those people feel? I'm doing to them what AI will do to them eventually.
>pathetic dev who will never find another GF to fornicate with wants to keep fornicatingwtf??????????
>>730907468>The anti-AI people aren't happy with the fact that AI will replace them.Those "people" think they deserve to get paid for their hobbies.
>>730907595Are you trying to say AI posts on 4chan already? I would know if that were occurring. I'll gladly look at proof if you have any, but if not, then consider returning to the filtered section of the board.
Is this the latest contrarian thread?
>>730907358Why are you trying so hard to get rid of people?
>>7309077534chan is pro-AI. Always has been.
>>730907802you could've just answered yes, loser
>>730907738You really dont see how half the fucking board if not entire site reeks of AI generated responses and bots?Really?>>730907514heres one
>>730907358Holy shit, This is empowering to women.
>>730907754>Why are you trying so hard to get rid of people?What people are you talking about? The governments of the world worked to get rid of White people ever since World War 2 ended, and AI is doing the same thing to all of humanity. I don't have a problem with it, because humanity was so poorly managed that I want to see how the AI overlords handle things.
^ How does this affect you when you are brown, brown poster?
>>730907358>new>girlfriend>convincedIs this supposed to send me into a rage?
I don’t understand why anti-AI fags don’t understand that AI is a tool, and can be used to benefit a work when applied responsibly. Of course, making a work that’s entirely AI generated is going to be slop, but I fail to see the problem of using it in conjunction with human made content to streamline the process.This is literally just the CGI backlash of the 2000s all over again.
>>730908248>Of course, making a work that’s entirely AI generated is going to be slop This isn't even true, AI can create some great stuff with just a prompt.
>>730908248They're scared and retarded. Just point and laugh until they die.
>>730908248>I don’t understand why anti-AI fags don’t understand that AI is a tool, and can be used to benefit a work when applied responsibly.Maybe because even tools can reduce the number of employees. You're thinking of the benefit to the product, but what about the people who lost their jobs?
>>730907496Hello newfriend!
>>730907973STOPCALLINGITSLOP
>>730908248Yes it's a tool, but it is a tool with a known use case. All the same kinds of people who want to cost cut or shit out low effort crap and scams have all been very visible in using ai.
>>730908407Has it ever been a good idea in the long term to limit technology to protect jobs?
AI BAD AI BAD AI BADRINCHY RINCHY ROO
>>730908005>ever since World War 2 endedHitler worked tirelessly to get rid ofva certain of white people and Mussolini killed more of his own russian citizens than germany ever did.
>>730908248why would you need to use AI in the first place?
>>730907358What a pussy does to a mofo
>>730908407Art is all about the product. Also, it benefits the consumer because it encourages human artists to try harder to make their art better than what AI can produce. AI killed mediocre artists, and that’s why mediocre artists are its biggest haters— because the days where they could charge an obscene amount of money for a sub-par commission are over. I have never seen a top-tier, highly respected artist complain about AI.
>>730908539If the product is bad, don't buy it.
>>7309074682 more weeks and we’ll all be replaced, right?
>>730908340Yep, like that one AI pic that won an art contest and made everyone mald
>>730908614To save money
>>730908248>why do contractors use hammers on nails instead of a hardened stick of poop? It’s a tool, no different than the hammer idgi
>>730908248Yeah and modern movies haven't reached the levels of old CGI. Anyways, AI is shit because it is generic and easily spottable. When you see AI being used, you see a shortcut taken at the expense of quality. Just like when you see obvious CGI in a live action movie.
>>730908641Why not?
>>730907858>if you don't like child grooming troons you are a botthis didn't work for the 2024 cycle, it isn't going to work now
>>730908625AI kills future artists no matter the quality because it kills the pipeline traditionally used for lower tier artists to advance and get better/find more opportunities.
>>730908625This is a cope, AI is already better than most good artists and it's only a matter of time before it surpasses even the best human artists.
>>730908762Lower tier artists are all trannies.
>>730908728Because it will signal the market to make more bad products!
>>730908625>it benefits the consumer because it encourages human artists to try harder to make their art better than what AI can produce.They won't be able to produce anything better, because AI is constantly improving. There was a time when AI advertisements weren't a thing, and I see them on Youtube all the time now. That means humans have already been replaced (just not entirely). You're essentially telling people to have more knowledge than a library, which is what happens when you compete with AI. You think that's fair?
>>730908697cool now things will be cheaper
>>730908653Yep you will be replaced by all indians>>730908723>modern movies haven't reached the levels of old CGI.Crazy how old CGI tried to fit itself into the world, nuCGI basically runs on its own physics engine and struggles to make real world elements fit into it. Sunshine (2007) BTFOs most modern CGI and Alien still holds up for barely relying on computer effects.
>>730907358>some literal who is pussywhipped>more at 10
>>730908539Every tool can be misused. People were complaining about CGI back in the 2000s because execs were trying to cram it into everything the way they’re doing with AI now. Once the honeymoon phase dies, it’ll become like CGI and become just another tool in the toolbox.>>730908614Some people don’t have the money to pay for artists, musicians and whatever, because those things are not cheap, and it’s impossible for one person to be good at everything. AI allows people with a lack of resources to make things easier, even if it’s only as a placeholder until they hire an artist.
>>730908723No one has notice the music in my game is AI and it's been highly praised
>>730907358>I read it as an Indian devMy pajeet hatred has once again taken over me
>>730908867Correct.
>>730908248>this is just the CGI backlash And it never got better. Go check the original Trigun vs the CGI netflix crap. Or any modern shonen that is made with hybrid technique.When will faggots learn that there is more to the work than getting shit out? This is why nobody tries. The well is already poisoned by the rules of capitalism that only mass exposure can do revenue and AI does favor that pipeline, but nobody is really satisfied with it. Not the creator, not the artist, not the fans, nobody but slop consumers (whose main hobby is to get drunk and have sex in the first place).Art is a craft, Literal Artisanship. It's a way of life and a philosophy. If you want to make money instead go pimp your mother to jeets instead.
>>730908848So? I need bad products because they remind me of my childhood.
>>730907738>I'll gladly look at proof if you have anyasking for proof of things that were posted on 4chan is fucking retarded. most of it gets culled after like two days if not less, and I have nothing to prove, so I'm not going around like a retarded psycho saving every single instance of chatGPT that I see posted here. If you can't identify AI posts, then you're the exact type of retard that they're targeting.
>>730908867Cheaper to produce. Not to sell. There is no reason for companies to reduce selling prices if people buy products at the asking price.
>>730908732Im not american and yes i hate troons.AI is literally the materialization of "you will own nothing and you will be happy" FUCKING LITERALLY, you wont be allowed to have anything, everything digital will be owned by god knows who behind a data center and the only access will be via cloud, not enough good boy points? too fucking badyou will only be allowed to search by AI with no way to verify anything, any narrative a jew wants pushed WILL BE PUSHEDYou dumb fucking nigger i wish i could just murder people like you
>>730908979Ok then do buy bad products!
>>730908762Lmao who gives a shit about low artists it's not like they're useful to society
>>730908861No, it's asking humans to be able to write a book that isn't in the library already.>>730908907You now remember that the most popular country song was AI.
>>730908867>now things will be cheaperGet a load of this goy
>>730908959Holy kek
>>730909062>fans of known slop music genre prefer slop@grok color me surprised
>>730909062>it's asking humans to be able to write a book that isn't in the library already.Are you able to write that book?
>>730909007>AI is literally the materialization of "you will own nothing and you will be happy" FUCKING LITERALLY, you wont be allowed to have anything, everything digital will be owned by god knows who behind a data center and the only access will be via cloud, not enough good boy points? too fucking bad>you will only be allowed to search by AI with no way to verify anything, any narrative a jew wants pushed WILL BE PUSHEDYeah, I recognize thatWhat are you going to do about it? Probably nothing, you'll bend over and accept it like every other time you and everyone else gets fucked>You dumb fucking nigger i wish i could just murder people like youYeah why don't you drive that anger towards something productive, retard
>>730907358AI isn't even the ragebait here, it's that failure of a man letting his partner's opinions control him.
>>730908867you're a retarded redditor if you really believe that. things are going to get more expensive with AI making stuff because fewer people will be able or willing to buy them, so they'll increase prices so that their profit margins don't go down.
>>730907358maybe because AI is a scam and hasn't contributed to anything its been 3 fucking years and its still nothing
>>730909042Yippee!
>>730907802How did those retards get tricked by that? Do they not understand how green text works? And wowie! Look at this 'badly drawn' sanic that has almost all minor details perfectly accurate and most of the coloring within the lines! What a talented... *checks notes* toddler!
>>730908248The problem is anything that uses genAI has like a 90% chance of being low effort dogshit, while games that don't only have like a 50% chance of being low effort dogshit.
>>730909186but two more weeks! you'll see!!
>>730907581wtf!? I hate AI now
>>730909186don't worry, tanking the RAM prices and the computer industry for the sake of AI will eventually pay off! It just HAS to, right?
>>730908889Exactly. Modern CGI is used as a cost cutting mechanism and thus looks absolutely horrible. Old CGI had some vision behind it to make the movie stand out more.>>730908907It is hard to trust your anecdotal evidence due to a lack of context. However, even if you are right, AI generally stands out. With the most obvious examples being AI art, AI writing and AI code.
>>730909146Someone who's passionate about it can and that's what matters and why AI will never fully replace people. After all, no AI could ever come up with "wibbled and wobbled" even though it does both of those things.
>>730909058Top tier artists don't come from nowhere, retard. It will collapse into a situation where the great artists are all gone with either no replacements/successors or a circlejerk of nepos.
>>730908248if AI is so good then why hasn't it produced anything of value yet?maybe because its dogshit and a scam
People will genuinely never notice something is AI if it’s good. Tard wrangling AI so it actually produces something acceptable is a skill in off itself.The reason gets a bad wrap is because of lazy fucks with no sense of artistry who put in one prompt and call it a day without trying to fine tune it.
>>730909001Decreased cost means less barriers to entry, means more supply, means lower prices.
>>730907468>Would you be happy if AI posted on 4chan and you weren't needed anymore?Yes. That would be awesome.
>>730909241Captain Hindsight here to save the day again!
>hey guys, I'm making dinner tonight.>order food from a drive thru>present it like I made it>brag about being a chefproblem, antis?
>>730907581This has to be a joke. I know trannies like to make everything about themselves, even when it doesn't make sense, but there's no way anybody can truly think this way and be mad about it.
>>730907358If you say you use AI in your product, I'm not buying it. If you don't say you use AI in your product, and I see AI in your product, I'm going to refund it and leave a negative review informing everyone that you do use AI in your product and they should not buy it. Using AI shows me that you did not have the talent to bring your product to market without the help of an omnicapable mommy-bot. Why would I ever want to purchase a product that was made by someone with no talent? You know it's not going to be good before you even download it.
>>730909267Yep, new CGI is so embarrassing it can't even properly remove a guy's mustache despite decade of progress in the field.
>>730909307>Yes. That would be awesome.What happens if you just stop posting right now? Other people will be posting. I don't think you even believe the shit you write. You probably think your posts are special and worth reading, when I showed in this screenshot how special the people of 4chan are: >>730907636Why is this thread full of posts? It's because I filtered all the other ones.
>>730909302And more shovelware.
>>730909270Oh no! Then anyone will be able to generate as much top tier art as they want, which... *checks notes* ...is...bad, somehow? Huh.
>>730909282People try to make narrative based videos using AI, but it's genuinely not possible to do it well, because you'll wind up with your characters looking different in every single scene to the point that it becomes distracting. I'm not even sure it's possible to deal with this in any believable way.
>>730909159>What are you going to do about it?You know well nobody is allowed to say "I'm gonna shoot up 'X' (on minecraft)" or any such nonsense. When they actually show up on the news you make that stupid pikachu face but you fail to connect the dots, so what's the point of asking that question? You think you make it better by supporting the hellscape? One thing is to actively benefit from the shit, like when you have stocks or your own slop company which is growing, but doing it to "own" a stranger online? I can't imagine anything more cucked. It's fucking pitiful. Think about all the retarded shit you said once injustice comes biting up your ass. Think about it when a therapist tells you to "turn those thoughts into more adaptive ones". Think about it when you have to think something to cope. You decided to die on the hill of shit dumbass.
Why are Indians so obsessed with AI? Are they behind the tech?
>>730907581
>>730909267 Well you can tell me what you think. Naturally I can't post an example from the game, but this is of similar quality. For most of the music I make, I compose it myself and give the musescore data to AI, but this is 100% just AI generated. https://vocaroo.com/1jXHuq6PVxyn
>>730909416Yeah, but let’s not pretend shovelware in places like Steam and itch.io weren’t already a massive problem before AI. AI just means the slop will be slightly less abysmal because AI can produce assets that are at least passable.
>>730909302You are talking about the A/ low AA scene. The AAA companies want to squeeze as much money as possible from you and have enough of brand trust in order to weather through an increase in supply of products. What will happen is that AAA games will come out faster but not cheaper and the indie market will be flooded (even more) with cheap knock off games.
>>730907417I know that feel
>>730909427lol
>>730909492AI is the first time the right has actually been in support of scientific progress and this is the first time they've been in favor of immigration. Yet all you leftards do is complain. Why is that?
>>730909427For a monthly subscription? Yes. How is this bad? No, it's not, it's brilliant. All you ever wanted. Just sign up the contract and stay with us.
>>730909530If I'm honest, I would not be able to tell if this was AI.
>>730909492They're obsessed with AI because they can be fooled by it. You're talking about a group of people who grew up without internet access while shitting in the street. They probably can't even identify bad photoshop jobs. To them AI is magical technology that they can use to trick people and make money from it. No, they are not behind the tech. Everything people claim about their intelligence and work ethics are a lie that they are told that they themselves believe. They're the prime goycattle because they aren't smart enough to even question whether or not they're being lied to. It's why all of their lies are so incredibly easy to see through; they aren't like normal people who question people's intentions, and they think everyone else is the same.
>>730909530That's a bop
>>730909475The tech isn’t quite there for long form stuff yet, I think, but I think it will be in like a decade or maybe less. The biggest problem they need to solve with AI is that the longer a single conversation goes on with them and the more prompts you give them in a single chat, the more they mentally deteriorate and shit themselves. They go from being relatively smart to having severe dementia.
>>730909427Hello chatgpt, make me some top tier art. >1girl, super big breasts, wearing maid dress, house setting, masterwork, five fingers, very good quality, anime catgirlAh, perfection.
>>730908248>This is literally just the CGI backlashThe difference is that CGI content is created through human intervention and creativity, and was the evolution of 2D.AI takes the work of others and regurgitates it; there is no creativity beyond that of the person who creates the prompt.Now, this isn't everything that AI is. The problem is generative AI and the dubious content it feeds on without authorization. I can understand if they feed on their own content, for example, if a film production company does it based on artists who have already been paid and agree to it, but you know very well that this is not the case, because they are looking to save costs in this area
>>730909807You have absolutely no idea about how AI actually works. Cope harder arttranny
Lol this is gonna make the portrait photographers lose their fucking MINDS
>>730909807>AI takes the work of others and regurgitates itHow is that any different to what a human does? Everything you know was "the work of others". When you were in school, you studied the work of people who came before you.
>>730909530This sounds like shit. I hope you didn't compose it because it truly sounds like a retarded robot made it.
>>730909476He'll still have outlived you, and happier off too.video games
AI could have saved Legends 3
>>730909786those are not super big breasts
>>730907468>Would you be happy if AI posted on 4chan and you weren't needed anymore?already on it. im making a local 4chan thats populated by a.i bots that im the mod of. everyone will only talk to me, and its only the subjects i want, and they will pull images from the internet, AND boorus, so all the boards are nsfw if i want. i can ban anyone i want too. im scraping all the publicly available archives for the data
>>730909906Because when I create something, I'm creating it through my own talent and skill. I'm not a brownoid typing words into a text box hoping to scam senile old people out of their money.
>>730909641>TOOLS COST MONEY??This confounds the leftist piratefag.
>>730909906I think people often forget the saying that great artists steal and that there’s nothing original under the sun.It’s really not that different from when a human artist takes inspiration from something and copies it in their work (which every artist without exception does, even if they don’t consciously realise it).
>>730910053thats not surprising, right wing people dont make anything worth pirating anyways. what would a right winger pirate in the first place?
>>730909728>indians are too honestHuh...
>>730910053>that picTheir justification will be that right wing people are too stupid to know how to pirate. This sort of study is never even worth considering.
>>730910028Wow, that's crazy. I would post on a 4chan that was entirely AI, but only if I couldn't tell it was AI. I would like the populace to be entirely White.>>730910051Show one of your creations, Mr. Talent and Skill.
>>730909906There is a concept in physiology called feedforward, a homologue of feedback. You evaluate and correct as you iterate the activity. You learn that way, using the instinctual human sensitbility to guide your corrections. This is what AI can't do. It plagiarizes, it doesn't learn. It's trained, it doesn't learn. Whenever it learns it hallucinates a goop of concepts like a schizo, it lacks human sensibilities to guide it. It will never be born human.
>>730907358>theyhe pulled his own game, retard. thread's over, shut this shit down.
>>730910004You're mindbroken by anime which is also why you don't have a girlfriend
>>730910121>confusing honesty with stupidityyou sound brown
>>730910112>right wing people dont make anythingFull stop. They're the most uncreative people in the world.
>>730910151>It plagiarizes, it doesn't learn. It's trained, it doesn't learn.Sounds like the userbase of a website I use. I couldn't actually name one person on the website, because every post seems like it was made by one guy I don't like. So much for the human ability to learn.
>>730910131>Show one of your creations, Mr. Talent and Skill.Oh no! My argument is invalid because I'm not an artist!!! I sure hope you practice what you preach and never, EVER talk about anything you don't have a PhD in, otherwise you're a hypocrite peddling lies.
Be honest:If, hypothetically, I was to make a game that had AI content and not disclose the fact there’s AI there, would people even notice as long as it didn’t look glaring wrong? Expedition 33 had AI assets in the game, and no one even noticed until it won GOTY because its haters were actively looking for ways to shit on it.
>>730909879You could argue your reply better instead of just talking for the sake of talking, and I'm not a tranny retard, leave your sexual fixations somewhere else>>730909906>>730910084>When you were in school, you studied the work of people who came before you.Do you really want to make people think that learning something is the same as stealing that content? Yes, it is stealing, because that AI model feeds off all that work. You are confusing inspiration with something else
>>730907468>>730907514>>730907802>>730908248
>ai will save gam-
>>730910301>If, hypothetically, I was to make a game that had AI content and not disclose the fact there’s AI there, would people even noticeNo, they wouldn't. It's like that Tiktok I saw of a woman who bought something from Etsy and loved it. Her fans told her it was AI art and it suddenly bothered her. That's the state of humanity.
>>730910053>TOOLS COST MONEYDo whatever you fucking want with your money. You should be aware that money represents your effort, and giving it your support. You may not imagine it for now but there are people who took loans for bullshit and now owe support, owe allegiance to banks over bullshit, and they can't freely choose a job without having their livelihood taken from them to pay that allegiance. It all starts with those stupid subscriptions eroding your purchase capability, then comes swearing allegiances. You're lucky it's not happening to you right now, big fucking chunk of population are deep in debt and that will only rise.
>>730910334Kill yourself tranny
>>730910215you just hate everything they make because you hate them. people like james woods get blacklisted from the industry when people find out they're conservative and for no other reason. they're not even ALLOWED to succeed.
>>730910301We can ALWAYS tell. No matter how hard you try to hide it, antis will always be able to clock your game as AI slop.
>>730908248not everyone can be a aging, balding boomer like you
>>730910004yes they are
>>730910215That must be why you and your faggot friends are constantly screeching and trying to censor old art. Because it's soooo leftist, right moron?
>>730910421Curse Vishnu
>>730909786You're telling me you wouldn't pay 15 USD a month for unlimited access to an album filled with thousands upon of pictures that look just like this? That's insane, you're killing the AI economy!!
>>730910413>money represents your effortBillionairefags, we have been vindicated. You read it here first.
>>730909476All I'm seeing is you accepting what's coming and doing nothingYou never had control, and never will
>>730910602You will never be woman faggot
>>730909759>>730909706Thanks friends.>>730909916I'm sorry you feel that. I disagree, but this one definitely sounds like a retarded robot made it. https://vocaroo.com/1k6SfP56yWSk
>>730910427>RIGHTIES ARE BEING GENOCIDED FROM THE LE INDUSTRY
>>730910215This, leftists make everything in the world, rightists just sell it off and fuck over the people who originally made it.
>>730910301If you can hide/blend your use of AI, sure. However, most AI shit is obvious and the people who use it, use it as a crutch instead of as a tool. So they end up shitting out bad products.
>>730908906>AI allows people with a lack of resources to make things easier, even if it’s only as a placeholder until they hire an artist.in theory. in practice, it will be used by companies that have the means to pay for those things but just don't want to. once AI becomes good enough, literally nobody will bother paying for creative work. I have no dog in this fight, but it's retarded to believe that AI will only be used by people who can't afford to pay for creative work. People already pay for shutterstock/getty subscriptions for this very reason, and soon they wont even have to do that anymore.
>>730910596Sorry but your troonjak of SUV lady getting gunned down is not "art"
ai just looks like dogshit
>>730907358>Man gets pussy whipped by his overbearing girlfriend. That and more news at 10:00.
>>730910697That's fucking cope and you know it.Expedition 33 literally won game of the year.
>>730907358Plot twist: The "new girlfriend" is a chatbot.
>>730910215It's weird because the more left wing the entertainment industry has become the more it has objectively became dogshit.Feel free to cope about it.
>>730910432https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/how-did-you-do-on-the-ai-art-turingYou retards can never tell. Add to this the fact that you and your ugly friends have run legitimate artists off the internet because you were certain they were using AI even when they provided undeniable proof they weren't. You can't tell your ass from a hole in the ground, let alone reliably spot AI art. Dipshit.
>>730907358i'm going to assume the game wasn't making much anyway so delisting it didn't matter but also what a fucking cuckai exists. it's there. you can download the weights and run them. don't fucking disarm yourself so only corpos get to use it, that's retarded
>>730907468Currently one of my hopes for the future is that I can run a local AI that simulates an image board, and then I can just never deal with you faggots again.
>>730910524>yes they areAmazing. This is part of the future you want.>You will own nothing, all your computing will be done on the cloud>Terms of service say you are not allowed to sexualize the concept of children, youth or women>I see you asked for "big breasted" catgirl. It is important to be reminded that a healthy sexuality involves consent, and that cannot be built on sexualization of human characteristics beyond their healthy social expectations. Here is a satisfying picture of a catgirl as you requested. Would you like to a therapist about how sexualizing women can impact your mental health?
>>730910752>If I don't like it, it isn't art. I am the sole person who gets to decide this.
>>730907358>girl finds a boy to destroy financially what a surprise
>>730910792If someone's art is mistaken for AI, they deserve to be taken down.
>>730907358AI became the same problem as bitcoin mining, it's incredibly wasteful of resources and hardware, way more even. every single one of those lame ass anime gurls dancing on your fucking screen actually costs a huge load of energy and materials that could be used for literally anything else, it's not free and you are not saving anything.
>>730910813Are you this guy: >>730910028or did you both have the same idea? Anyway, I'm sure you guys will be missed, NPC 1 and NPC 2.
>>730910672SAAAAAAR
>>730910689If you did made it, that piece relies too much on the single motiff. Try composing like you're telling a story, if you take people nowhere and repeat the same shit you will only piss them off.
>>730910932NTA, we just have the same dream.
>>730910792We can ALWAYS, ALWAYS tell. What do you not understand about this? AI has no consistency between frames. It has no distinct style. There will always be artifacts and mistakes that you, lacking talent of your own, will not be able to edit out or account for. You will never be a real gamedev, you will never have a real game, you will forever be a poor brown Indian using tools invented by your betters in a crude mockery of nature's perfection.
>>730910773Expedition 33 was an example of blended AI use. There was human created elements and AI created elements co-existing in the same space to the point that you couldn’t tell the difference. This is how to use AI as a tool as it was intended to be used. People only hate AI when its used to create every aspect of something without human curation.
>>730910773itll be forgotten in about 3 months
>>730908867Imagine unironically in this day and age being this fucking stupid when products have physically shrake in size but still cost the same or even more.That prices would go lower because its being made by LLMs
>>730910932oh, no, lmao, i only made that one post. other guy, i feel you dude. imagine being able to right click a post and select "more of this"
>>730910773Anon two things. Firstly, I said most AI shit is obvious. You have exceptions like E33 sure but you can immediately tell when AI is used most of the time. This is due to point 2, AI is used as a crutch. Shit programmers use AI to generate code and end up with slow and buggy messes. Shit artists give AIs prompts and then use that as is instead of blending the art into the game style. Shit writers use AI to crap out the most illogical yet boring stories imaginable. Sure, if you know what you're doing then you can do good with AI. However, the vast majority of AI users don't.
>>730911021it was one placeholder asset, don't trip over your own dick
>>730910864The thing is that the “AI style” is an amalgamation of the generic art of artists in the 2010s. If you looked on the front page of Deviantart around that time, you’d see art that looks identical to AI art, but made by humans. I’m guessing these were the references AI models were fed.
>>730907358Why is this absolute utter ass trash game getting so much attention?
>>730910790I've seen your dailywire movies and I'm not impressed
We're already at the point where people are paranoid and constantly calling out genuine artists for using AI. Give it another few years and it won't even be a conversation anymore outside of freaks on bluesky having melties. It'll be like cutting fruit with a knife. It's just another tool.
>>730910864This.
>thread gets uncomfortable when Claude Plays Pokemon and the AI bumps against a wall for four hours while trying to throw away a key item the whole time is brought up
>>730911131That’s true of most artists in general though. It makes logical sense that Sturgeon’s Law should apply to AI like it does for everything else. The fact most people suck at art doesn’t inherently make AI bad.
because people are stupid animals who will move on vibes more akin to a cro-magnon who's high priest of elephant bones claims that fire is evil or some shit. There is nothing wrong with AI. There are stupid, greedy, corporate serving uses of it, but that's not what people are upset about. They're upset because its a starter personality issued to them as part of their ideology around a handful of conceptual memes and little else.
>>730911143>one placeholder assetYes, that's all they got caught using so far.
>>730907514>false dichotomyI hate you stupid poojeet faggots so much
>>730911343You are tranny. Fuck you.
>>730911206Between this and Hyenas and Concord, I welcome more games getting publicly unreleased.
>>730911275CPP is based and wholesome though
>>730911235I'm more or less at the point where I assume most people who actively complain about AI are just mad that they'll never be able to find paid creative work. All they're saying with this is that they don't actually respect their own craft and only see it as a means to an end.
>>730911425claude is extremely funny but it's such a fucking ding in the ironic AI shilling
>>730907358Did the girlfriend even exist?
>>730911275Claude Plays Pokemon isn't killing anyone's livelihoods. The only people who actually hate it are Indians who are mad they didn't come up with the idea first.
You fags aren't going to fall for this game's marketing campaign, right? >Moron makes shitty game, figures it will become one of thousands>Makes big giant stink about removing the AI placeholders because girlfriend told him to>FREE PUBLICITY>TAKE MY MONEY I HATE AI TOO IT HAS NO SOUL BY THE WAY SUBSCRIBE TO MY PATREON AND I NEED LIKE 10 COMMISSIONS THIS MONTH OR ELSE I CANT AFFORD RENT AND YOU ARE LITERALLY PUTTING ME ON THE STREET>Game sells a fortune compared to whatever shit it was done previously.
>>730911327I do get the vibe that more was used. A lot of the game was very obviously human made, but certain songs in the soundtrack are something you could easily produce in Suno and tweak a bit after the fact. Plus, there’s no way a small studio wouldn’t cut corners where possible because that’s just the nature of game development.
>>730911360>You are tranny.You are A tranny*, fixed that for you, Rajesh
>>730911269>nonsensical jewelry that isn't even mirrored on either side of the perspective>cloth isn't pinched properly between right hand's fingers>just straight up LOTR eye of Sauron and white city in the backgroundThat is very clearly AI. For once, based reddit mod for not spending 8 hours a day arguing with indians that their prompts are real art.
>>730911583Kill yourself
>>730911470It's possible, but it definitely wasn't a "girl"friend
>>730911281I reckon you can get some REALLY good games with AI tools. However, just like an asset flip, AI is an easy red flag for a bad game. The question is why did the creator use AI/asset flips instead of paying someone to do the task/doing the task themselves? The usual answer is because the creator doesn't care enough to pay/do the work, which then suggests that there will be corners cut elsewhere in the product.
>>730911453Which is weird because many of the greatest creatives in history were either impoverished NEETs, or they did creative work as a side hobby while they worked a day job.I’ve been writing a novel while working a 9-5, and I couldn’t imagine making writing my full time job, because it would force me to sell out just to live rather than have fun writing the things I want to write.
>>730910949Well like I said, that one was entirely AI. This one is one I composed and used AI to finish. https://vocaroo.com/1fheoakHBhTX Note that I do not claim to be a great composer, the question is would you be able to tell the instrumentation was all AI.
>>730908248It’s because AI has made life worse for the majority of people.>A large portion of content online is now AIslop, have no passion and churning out 30 shorts a day>RAM prices are through the roof because AI data centers hog all the RAM on the market>Not only do you need to compete with thirdworlders who will do your job for half of what you need, but also AI which doesn’t need a salary and jeets using AI>And said companies are using AI to review your resume and its of course shit at it>Because of how AI works, if you’re an artist, your art is likely being stolen and you won’t get compensated>Kids are becoming significantly dumber since they rely on AI to help them in school rather than thinking on their own>Like with NFTs, AI dudebros infest everywhere and you can’t hold a normal conversation as they are genuine fucking retards>Oh and its also harming the environment and some AIs are talking about taking over the world as if destroying the economy and art wasn’t bad enoughThere is a lot of reason to hate AI
>>730911539CPP was brought up because it shows LLMs are fucking dumbasses that catch themselves in loops.
>>730911743It could also suggest the creator is broke and just couldn’t afford it though. Games can get crazy expensive to make the more people you involve in its production.
>>730911453This is what I also notice a lot. People aren't aghast that a ROBOT could make ART, they're afraid that the guy paying them 5000$ for fart vore will in the future just generate it himself and it will be good enough for him to bust a nut. You see it a lot too with artists having tantrums that their art didn't get 10000000 twitter updoots or whatever the fuck.
>>730907358Add a disclaimer saying you used AI. Done. Fucking retarded monkeys.
>>730911859I like it but yeah there is some artifacting that you can hear
>>730911969>add AI disclaimer>people don’t even give your game a chance because they automatically assume its a bad AI asset flipSometimes a white lie pays off. I’m 100% convinced most devs nowadays use AI by lie about it because of the stigma it carries.
Most AI hate is actually just thinly veiled contempt for some kind of underclass. Honestly they're also broadly correct. Jeets and other assorted retards like pyramid scheme grifters have spent the last few years filing the internet with complete dogshit abusing a tool they should have never been allowed to access. Tell people the same thing about the internet though and you'll get called a racist.
>>730911875Stop! I already love AI too much! Also, good luck stopping it lol
>>730911960people on twitter mostly just want to laugh at le epic funny pictures. you're never going to get as much engagement making a few pictures a week compared to someone who can post multiple times a day. This isn't even an AI thing, it's just a numbers thing.
>>730909583I never understand why spending hundreds of hours tardwrangling the AI is supposed to be a good or impressive thing instead of learning to use proper tools to do the same task in 30 minutes.
>>730912201AI is singlehandedly propped up on the empty promise that *at some point, not right now* it will be a Holodeck.
AI has been around for like 4 years nowHow has it improved my life?
>>730912112I personally think AI is based because it destroyed the ivory tower elitist culture of the art world and academia overnight. Plus, it’s funny to see liberals who made fun of blue collar workers for complaining about foreigners taking their jobs now turning round about making the same complaints about AI because they never expected anyone to come for THEIR jobs.
>>730912228For me, it’s given me a slew of lewd content for characters who otherwise don’t have lewd content.
>>730907358Good morning sir!
>>730912135You’re the NFT dudebro retard type I was talking about btw.Impossible to have any real conversation with.Your next post will be calling me a tranny (even though I hate trannies too) and ignoring everything I say.
>>730909369Bruv, you're using a computer to write this. Every single one was created with a robot. Do you drive anywhere? Take the bus? Eat anything you didn't harvest yourself? Wake the fuck up, the AI is here to stay. It's just the next level up from computing. Adapt or put the fries in the bag
>>730912579Remember when the blockchain was here to stay
>>730909241Youre just a contrarian faggot. You would have been fooled by it too. Fuck off.
>>730912078Right, so enact a policy that mandates developers issue a disclaimer if they used AI, and then ban them or appropriate the money from the sales if you find out they lied.
>>730910334Is this supposed to be a thrvth nvke?We jeets know already.
AI trannies keep seething
>>730912228I have an AI image of Emma Watson that I've jerked off to. I don't know about you, but that's life improvement. Previously I just had to imagine it, but having an image is even better. As good as my imagination is, an image is like driving a car instead of walking. Anyway, that's all I could think of. AI could be making games too, and so I would benefit from that.
>>730912078If I can't trust that you care enough about your project to put any actual effort into the sound and visuals, why should I assume any actual effort was put into the game mechanics either? I'm long past the point of buying new games on release, even for franchises I like, until they've been out long enough for there to be a general consensus on whether or not it's worth buying. If your AI game is receiving mid scores and nobody is talking about it at all even 6 months after release, I'm not even going to consider buying it.We used to have franchises where you could assume that the next new game was going to be good and most of the time you'd be right. That is not the case anymore.
>>730912504Ok ok, seriously though, how would/could you stop it? Why not embrace it?
>>730910004You have to use "huge_breasts" instead
>>730910334>ChatGPT Saar you jeetPT is not the only AI
>>730912243What the fuck are you talking about? The ivory tower of art has been degraded for fucking years, and you’ve traded it for the silicon valley tech-fortress.
>>730912623>Trump invests into a blockchain government backed reserveYes, surely it will die any day now.
>>730912669Is it a lie if they don't mention it at all?
>>730912862I played this game that allegedly used AI. Do I care if it did? No, I don't. If AI affects your life positively, then you would be ungrateful to talk badly about it. It's kind of like ethnics and White people, with AI being the White people.
>>730912579There is a marked difference between tools that enable creativity and AI, which is a tool that supplants creativity. >but you can use AI to creative novel works!Sure! Do I really want to read your barely edited 'novel' about the travels of Elara, whose eyes sparkled with mystery and adventure? Nope!
>>730912870Well I ignore it, decry it, and continue with negative public sentiment. Then, when the tech companies finally have to flip the switch and charge exorbitant fees for their garbage can chatbot, it is likely that even fewer people than otherwise would have will support it, and then these large tech companies will die off in huge numbers taking the bubble with them. Then, LLM will contract to a more reasonable level after merely taking like three years of economic development with it, and I won’t have to argue with insane billionaire evangelists on /v/.
>>730912243It's become very telling that the biggest reason they support mass immigration is because it was directly affecting conservative workers. They're all racist. Now they're trying to ban the tools that would allow those same brownoids to replace them. Leftoids tend to be worse people than the conservatives they hate so much.
>>730909353
>>730912993Giving some media I enjoyed some easy placeholder textures doesn’t suddenly make everything else the LLM mass does excusable.
>>730913054Yes, dumbfuck, keep hating other poor people, that's the way.
>>730913092>doesn’t suddenly make everything else the LLM mass does excusable.What did it do? Did the AI kill your family, or what? Did it build a toilet in your village?
>>730912952>every trump crypto was a rugpull>every blockchain THING has been 90% rugpulls>the only thing that has survived are a handful of coins that only exist as a hype-based store of value, that are also nigh-nonfunctional as a currency
>>730909353>>730913085>Was about to call other people retarded but I somehow forgot my actual picture.Men are better at women at everything. Including at being women. In both their best and worst characteristics. You can easily do it too, if you tried.
>>730913143I hate people who revel in the idea of me losing my livelihood. I don't care if they're poor.
>>730913152It flooded the internet with constant garbage and scams, for one. It’s making every sector it is used in excepting some niche research applications tangibly worse, for another.
>>730908625>Art is all about the productsoulless ass sentence god damn you're not even human
>>730913213Now ask yourself 1) who told you that, and 2) who benefits the most from the country being flooded by dirt cheap labor.
>>730913043So what? Why should society create a special carve out for artists to protect them from being replaced by machines when we don't do that for anyone else?
>>730913316why are generator machines in my creativity hobby and passion projects?
>>730913210Trannies and actual women have a lot in common. They both excel at making themselves unlikable cunts, being histrionic psychos, blaming everyone else for the problems they create themselves, and demanding things they didn't earn and don't deserve. The reason why women get a pass and trannies don't is because people actually want to fuck women and they're important for, you know, reproduction. I also like looking at women. There's a reason Bud Light got so much backlash for hiring a tranny.
>>730913048>when the tech companies finally have to flip the switch and charge exorbitant fees for their garbageApple, Google, Microsoft will die off...? Not a chance. Then there's competition between them to make a profit.>contractHow? What ever gets deleted? Some anons DO IT FOR FREE just to spite artists.
>>730913316If there are no artists, who is going to make the training data for your AI masters to rip?
>>730913363>There's a reason Bud Light got so much backlash for hiring a tranny.dumb hicks drink it religiously?
>>730913234>It flooded the internet with constant garbage and scams, for one.That's weird, because I was on the internet long before AI, and it was flooded with constant garbage anyway. Do you think I have this play time because 4chan was too good that I was unable to play video games? Think about it.
>>730913406AI
>>730913403>die offIt might not take the whole company, but it will take the AI division. If it never becomes profitable, why would they keep it around?>why, what ever gets deletedAI slop constantly gets deleted, hell you yourself delete the vast majority of your gens. Without the hype market around it, that number inevitably increases as infinite indians can no longer sustain a living creating garbage 24/7.
>>730913316You've made up a strawman in your head to argue with instead of actually understanding what I've posted. I said I would not buy anything made with AI, and if that product attempted to decieve me into thinking it wasn't made with AI, I would let people know that it was. This way, they can also make an informed decision on what they'll buy.
>>730913464Dunno if you noticed, but it got worse of late. It’ll continue to worsen until these AI companies start their cost recouping phase and price out the entire third world.
>>730913194https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Strategic_Bitcoin_ReserveYes, surely it will die any day now
>>730913492AI doesn't work so good on generative incest
>>730913575Yeah, even this makes a strong argument how worthless bitcoin is as a currency. It’s a reserve of value propped up by a market that is willfully blind to its own shortcomings.
>>730913234No, normalfags did that once the internet became available to the populace thanks to AOL in the early 90sFirst day on the internet? It was full of scams for a long time, AI is less than a drop in the bucket. Man, come to think of it thing are a lot better these days, now you got me thinking about the days when your computer was just suddenly assualted by a 20 malicious popups from clicking an innocent looking link was a normal occurrence for browsing the web.. Good times
>>730907468Ai will never replace them
>>730913674Anon AI is about half the bucket at this point in time. Popups were invalidated by anti-popup software, I eagerly await software that can detect and block AI.
>he doesn't know about the collector FOMO delisting grift>make a shitty, simple game>make up some bullshit for why you're delisting it>charge $2 for it>huge profit for nothing as people buy copies of your game to inflate their library count
>>730908248Steroids are a toolI don't get why sportsfags are always so upset about it
>>730913501The same reason why Google didn't give up on Youtube. It took years for Youtube to be profitable. Do you really think companies want to give up another Youtube? Also, yes I do delete the shit gens but the actual good stuff I save and spread.
>>730913789This sounds like something that doesn’t actually exist in any meaningful respect and that earns barely any profit.
>>730912867It's that inherent projection of intent and quality I don't really understand. The dev that uses AI for shit like voices or background assets, i.e. posters or sheets of scattered newspaper and gets the disclaimer for it, is already getting way more doubt than the anti-AI dev that just opts to have no voiceover and a bare wall or no prop newspaper prop at all. The difference is just that you weren't made aware that they gave so little of a shit to hire talent to voice that dialogue or create those assets for them. Like would the AI using dev's game mechanics suddenly be less in question if he dropped his AI assets but just took the next most likely minimum cost/time/effort option for the replacement? The distrust feels a bit too blind in the first scenario, and the trust too blind in the second, if caution is (trying) to be equal.
>>730913826Youtube was a great strategic asset even as a barely profitable monolith. Google is not the market leader in AI. None of these companies are. One of them might eventually acquire the market leader once the bubble pops, and then the others will withdraw as they did with youtube-likes.
>>730913676AI is already replacing people. Have you ever seen an AI advertisement? You probably can't tell it's AI, but I can. I see them all the time.https://youtu.be/PQ48SV2_NUA?si=a3Q_pL32aw7_FszP
>>730913596This hasn't been true for over a year.
>>730913856The dev that simply didn’t is better than the dev that did with a destructive tool, yeah. Hell, I like no voiceover, it’s much nicer than AI voice.
>>730913413yes, that's my point genius. they're using trannies to market to a group of people who are most likely to hate the trannies. then they removed the tranny, which then pissed off the leftoids as well. they killed their good graces with literally everyone with one very stupid decision.
>>730913501>If it never becomes profitable, why would they keep it around?Oh sweet little baby child I suppose you have never heard of an obscure site called YouTube and it's financial state for AT LEAST 10 years. Almost as if a multibillion dollar marketcap company with unbelievable amounts of revenue can afford to keep a single division at a loss for ten of your lifetimes if they deem it will one day be profitable. Keep holding your breath and you'll be dead long before they even start to feel any burn.
>>730913923>yellow and brown emojis are the height of art
>>730913993xbox too which has literally never been profitable as a microsoft division
>>730907514Ah yes keep repeating the propaganda made just for you while people with actual jobs, actual employees, neologists and everyone Dave tells you it's shit Fucking retard
>>730914003Sorry to burst your bubble, lil man.
regularly scheduled saar thread huh
>>730913993>>730913905Youtube is a giant fucking boulder that denies a market to competitors. AI isn’t yet. Right now, AI is universally in a loss-lead strategy that evaporates when they have to turn the money spigots on. LLMs are a limited technology, and will be abandoned the very second something actually approaching a learning AI is developed. The current market strategy of some large players is literally praying that somehow, the LLM suddenly and spontaneously evolves into AGI.
>>730914032There will be winners and losers yes. Right now though, it's anyone's game with AI.
>>730908248If everything made with a jigsaw looked like dogshit or fell apart jigsaws would have a reputation for being garbage. That and you can't make something like a piece of furniture with just a jigsaw, you need nail, glue, staples etc.. If you want people to accept AI, actually use it as a tool rather than using the first results of your prompt; trace it, edit it in photoshop, fix the details it consistently fucks up, ANYTHING, but that woud require effort.And that's why people can tell when you use AI, you handed them a pile of crooked particle board and called it a bookcase.
>>730911875>all shit that doesn't effect meLet the AI takeover continue.
>>730914119it's nobody's game with AI, sam altman has been looking for a buyer for most of openAI's existence
>>730914032Isn’t Xbox literally dying as we speak?
>>730914070It wasn't the saar thread until you showed up. Is the SEANigger, Chink, Gook, Nigger, Mexican, etc section of /v/ not good? Maybe don't shit in the streets that aren't like that.
>>730912112Yeah, the problem is that indians are people too. Like, imagine hating an entire country of people for basically no reason. That's why racists get no respect from me.
>>730914171now type that without crying
>>730907650Pro tip: being passionate about your game will not only attract women to you, but also make them suck your dick. They have an instinct to get self-worth from backing a passionate horse at the start of the track. Giving up is what makes you an incel
>>730913674>>730913746Look up Eternal September. The premise is that the internet used to be so difficult to use for the average person, that the only people who were using it were actually interested in contributing to it. Then AOL came out which made the internet easy for retards to use. The simple idea is that the easier a tool is to use, the lower the average quality of the product that tool will be used to create. AI was funny like 5 years ago when the quality was so low that nobody could possibly mistake it for being a real image. It's much less funny now that it's being used by brown people who think they can scam people with it to make money, and I have no interest in seeing anything AI if its intention isn't to be funny.It's like that video of a cat that keeps playing different instruments on the front porch and the woman keeps coming out and taking his instruments away. That's one of the funniest things ever to me.
Does doing this also deny anyone who already has a copy the right to use it?
>>730914239I don't cry actually, and I'll show you what I do instead. I don't even cry at funerals.
>>730914156Glad you found the loser in this. The others will lead then. Also, the loser will just sell whatever they have and those buyers will continue doing what they do best. Whatever that is.
>>730914245let the dev know, anon
>>730912228I'm loving a lot of the porn output for characters that get hardly any.
>>730914171very sorry to disturb your shilling today saar
>>730914157it's technically been dying for its whole existence but only just recently have its total failures become more public knowledge instead of a "rounding error" by lumping xbox in with more profitable microsoft divisions to hide their lossesphil spencer being really really horny to turn xbox into a games-as-a-service model to try and hail mary save it ended up being the chomp down on the cyanide pill
>>730914275>the ringleader is wrapped up in an incest case and trying desperately to find anybody else that will hold his bag>the others will lead then!lol it's a dead end technology and some companies like dell are being open now about smelling the shit
>>730914264No, delisted games stay in your library and on the servers.
>>730914237I don't have any real particular disdain towards other races, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't dislike the majority of interactions I have with them.
>>730914275Seems like they are literally all losing right now, and the clear market advantage is currently held by someone that you just defined as a loser. If the market leader is losing, what is everyone else doing? Aspiring to lose?
>>730913043>which is a tool that supplants creativity.It also enables it but you choose to avoid talking about that because it proves your baseless seethe wrong.
>>730913838It happens regularly and consistently enough, only the delisting excuse tends to change
>>730913351Why are sellouts? Creativity isn't something soecial and that's the real reason you hate AI.
>>730908248>when applied responsibly.Retard nigger, that went full in with trillions in a carousel. Every store in America already got price fixing TODAY. The price of egg changes depending on who is standing in front of the tag RIGHT NOW. Palantir is telling you it's gonna surveil you and run your life without you knowing. Wake the fuck up
Do you know how fucking angry pictures like this make? Ones that are PAINFULLY made with AI tools with no attempt at giving it a human's touch?Why is this a good thing?>because it makes you seetheWhy is that a good thing? Is this eventually going to improve? Will it no longer make a difference between human and AI? Does it even matter so long as people are angry about it?
>>730908585Your post is worse than AI
>>730914468Name a single product that was primarily created with AI that was a critical or commercial success. You can't, because everything AI makes is the same, and none of it is novel or interesting four years in.
>>730907468>The anti-AI people aren't happy with the fact that AI will replace them.Who is at risk for getting replaced? Let's recap.>SEO "experts" who have made the Internet exponentially worse>"Localizers" who don't know the language they're translating>Zero talent code monkeys who can write simple code but have no idea what they're doingAnyone with real talent or skill is in no danger having their career destroyed.
>>730914470I’d actually be interested in any numbers you have. This sounds like cool data.
>>730914106This guy gets it, we're nowhere close to AGI no matter what the techbros tell you, it's not a problem you can just throw more RAM at
How do I get Peter Thiel to pay me to shitpost on /v/, too?
>>730914605Wow what a coincidence that AI will replace everybody Mangalawyer tells sweaty retards to hate.
>>730914605Anybody with real talent is literally only worth keeping around to provide more training data for a bigger and better LLM that the creators hope replace them.
>>730914259I like the one where the animals vomit water at old people
>>730907514>>730910334this two images are posted in every AI threadwhy can't you two learn to fucking argue without having to resort to "you are MUH BOOGIEMAN" type posting
>>730914594There are, as we speak, hundreds of AI songs generating millions of dollars. An AI black woman got a 3 million dollar contract and country got dabbed on by an AI song.
The pro-AI contingent on 4chan feels 100% phony. It's just a stance that's taken because knowing they can piss people off is more important than any actual opinion.Hence why corporate bootlicking is fine so long as someone is getting BTFO.
>>730914732i don't think botted spotify results actually generate that much money
>>730914686That's very pessimistic, but I agree. Why would you need a doctor when there's a robo doctor. I don't see why AI wouldn't replace everyone. Sci Fi movies showed that kind of future, and it just wasn't the near future.
>>730914237>Like, imagine hating an entire country of people for basically no reason.I have plenty of reasons to hate India and its people. It's not my fault they're brown. I don't hate them BECAUSE they're brown, I hate them because they're almost all disgusting psychopaths. I would hate them all the same if they were all white people, as long as they still acted exactly the same as they do now. Most jews look superficially white, and I hate all of them too, but they have the added benefit of usually being able to blend in to the crowd. It's most likely why they've been so successful at subverting the entire world.
>>730910028Trolling and psychosis comboBabby's first solipsism
>>730914786>guy who got radicalized by watching kitboga scam videos
>>730907358>girlfriendTranny.Women don't give a fuck about AI.
>>730914468the number of people that use AI as a supplementary tool for art are vanishingly small, 'prompt engineering' is not art and buying a tablet and pirating CSP is cheaper than paying for good boy tokens on Tensor. I say this as someone who regularly generates smut locally
>>730910301E33 had a few newspapers and we could immediately tellCope, seethe, dilate and poo in loo
>>730914781And then, when there’s nobody left to contribute training data, we plateau as a species. LLMs start the gradual self-degredation, and it gets worse until we suddenly need experts again. Problem is, there’s no expert training pipeline anymore, and we suddenly crater entire tech sectors that nobody can train anymore. I love dark ages 2.
>>730914732Of course. I'm sure you can name some of these songs, considering they're so popular. Hell, I should have heard some already! Hundreds of songs, each making millions. Wow.>An AI black woman got a 3 million dollar contractThis reads exactly the same as "An NFT sold for 4 million dollars!" did 4 years ago. It's a wash sale to drive hype, which you've apparently fallen for.
>>730914891>the number of people that use AI as a supplementary tool for art are vanishingly small,I've personally seen a *very* small number of it (like two or three people total and I follow hundreds) and more often than not they end up finding it's inferior to more conventional references, and they're putting themselves on a cross for no reason every time they do it.
>>730914914>>730914765
>>730914730The only people who are upset by AI are trannies.
>>730910334>Sweden that highKind of surprised desu
>>730914614No data, just conjecture,but take a look through this list and you might notice some patterns if you search the titles. I'm sure someone will do a video essay on this eventually.https://steam-tracker.com/
>>730910301E33 having one AI placeholder asset was literally immediately known and posted, which prompted the devs to fix it. By the time the GOTY deluge rolled around, it wasn’t in the game anymore.
>>730910854Believe it or not a definition exists, tranny relativist. Art is a product of human experience. Look it up Jeet. You never had a civilization, time to learn
>>730914972The last resort of someone who's truly lost an argument. Suck my nasty smega-filled foreskin, bitch. You know I own you.
All this fucking smugness, it makes me want to just post loli porn and end it all.
>>730915024There's a good chance it was something slipped into an asset pack they used and they didn't actually know it made it to final, per their own testimony
>>730915049You can literally just google ai song and get hundreds of news articles about these things. It's not my fault you're too brown to take 5 seconds and educate yourself on the state of things and instead just post homoerotic fantasies on an image board.
>>730915024>oneThat we know of. Smoke and fire, apologist retard.
>>730914259I know about Eternal September Turned to be a big nothing and the internet went on to be far bigger and better than the uptight nerds on Usenet. Usenet is now a dead and gay service superceded by countless superior options. If that's your parallel then we are in for a bright future for AI. About 9 years until we get the AI equivelant of 4chan in that case?
>>730915003Those prices are funny, but much like other collector markets I severely doubt the touted value. I’d need to see sales volume to see if these assets are liquid at all or just priced-to-be-priced like graded cards.
>>730908625>AI killed mid artistsLmaoing at your clueless idiot ass. Lol. You assume they just didnt just use AI to be lazy pieces of shit as they always did. The type of artists who are actually mad at AI are the better ones, because AI steals their art for jeets to scam retards like (You).
>>730915118Surely people would have sound other examples by now since they are looking for fire, right?
>>730909270>the great artistsWho, your hyperrealistic furry fetish artists that get 5000 bucks a months for a single fart fetish art piece a year?
>>730912135Zoomers have adopted this retarded lemming weak trolling skill of just agreeing with the worst take imaginable, because they're unable to think though their adhd
>>730915053Post whatever you want. If I wasn't in this thread, I would be on the catalog filtering threads, which is done for hours every single day. You'll never surprise me with anything.
>>730915116You and I both know it's not just a fantasy. I'll see you in twenty minutes.
>>730915195>art is either AI or niche furry porn, there is nothing between these
>>730914938More or less yeah, if I were using AI for poses or brainstorming there's no way in hell I'd let the public know, and even then I'd have to have some serious artist's block to be that desperate
>>730915241>he's finally realizing
>>730914237If they stayed in India and didn't make the internet into the same smelly cesspool as their homes, no one would hate them. But alas
>>730907358Why don't proompters have a backbone? This guy cut off his own income source because apparently his moral compass can be rewritten by one bitch
>>730915241While it was a rhetorical question, you may still answer it.Who is it instead, people taping bananas to walls?
>>730915347Oh shit, a third pillar of the art community>art is AI, niche furry porn, or niche postmodernism that is designed to make people angryI can’t wait to discover the next pillar of art.
>>730915183Thank you for proving my point, apologist retard.
>>730915483So no, then? You never actually found any fire? Did nobody look?
>>730907358do the work yourself pajeet
>>730914914Yeah! https://youtube.com/watch?v=bhUb45u2U7s https://youtube.com/watch?v=uDBs2u84sCo
>>730915414>no actual answerI accept your concession
>>730915123We've seen Eternal September repeated several times. The internet became worse when dial up was phased out. The internet became worse when the iPhone came out. The internet became worse when every single website was consolidated into aggregator websites like reddit. the internet became worse when brown people who grew up without electricity or plumbing got access to the entire world.Good things rarely get better over time. AI itself might improve, but it will become something that only rich companies can benefit from because it will become prohibitively expensive for a hobbyist to use.
>>730915581So which pillar is Anime in. Niche furry porn? How about movies, are they AI or postmoderism?
>>730915235
>>730908248A tool misused 90% of the time is worth being cautious about...
Don't you guys get tired of wasting your time? Your anti-ai arguments are always retarded. It's never going away even if the "bubble pops" like you claim will happen. You are fighting a war you lost the moment it began, using imaginary arguments based on nothing but feefees.>NOOO BUT THE THREE TRILLI-ACKNo one cares. Who in their right mind would possibly care about how much money is shoved into it. It's not your fucking money. You couldn't even afford to buy PC parts before, why cry now? It'll be back to normal in two years at most and you'll still be a broke fag begging on key dump and christmas threads for scraps.
>>730915141Nope, you are stupid. For a pro Ai is not a concern, as he's already established and can use it as a tool to make his own lora and speed things up.Its always the nothingburger, 50$/fullbody ones who draw repulsive shit, abusing the airbrush tool. Getting 2 gigs is fine if you are 16. If you are 31 and screech about Ai because a random jeet makes anime tits slop or a boomer a dancing kitten the problem is you. Speaking of which, you should be concerned about a datacenters hogging power and contaminating drinkable water, also making computing unaffordable.
>>730915907>sure everything is getting worse, large companies are stomping on you, and the places you enjoy being are getting flooded with indians trying to grift you>but honestly, just stop complaining, it’ll never stop getting worse anyway and then when it annihilates itself, you’ll be mostly back to normal anyway and thenthe next terrible thing can happen
>>730908248Lowering the barrier to entry is never a good thing. The industry is already overtaken with passionless profit chasers
>>730914686This anon gets it.
>>730915907Like the AI industry as a whole you sold me on nothing, just a "it's here, deal with it, what it produces is what it produces and you should be okay with that".Is the obviousness of AI going to get increasingly less noticeable? Is that why I should accept it?Why should I stop disliking AI content? I can't say it's acceptable just because it exists and is going to become the dominant source of content in the future. Why do I live in a world where preference is meaningless and acceptance without question is the only outcome?
I feel like we're barrelling towards a future where giant corporations won't hire anyone but expect everyone to spend money on whatever they produce.
>>730916127You’re half right, they are going to REQUIRE we spend money on anything they produce. The entire world is sprinting towards becoming a company store.
>>730916127It's funny how you call that the future. I don't even buy shit now, because I can't afford it. Maybe you guys can, but I can't. That means I'm living in that future.
>>730910334maybe the problem is india, and not ai?
>>730916182Sounds like Futurama.Also you have to remember that buying once doesn't help the bottom line. Keeping people locked into continuously paying is the future.
>>730907358Weird, a woman actually saving vidya.
>>730916247Well obviously, now subscribe to the waterco newsletter for improved anti-lead functionality on your local purifier.
>>730916047>I am le perpetual victim, crying about these imaginary events!Blame yourself for making yourself a schizo and turning your brain into mush to the point you see "indians" everywhere.>>730916091>Why should I stop disliking AI content?Why shouldn't you, you special snowflake? No one actually cares if you live or die, I'm just tired of hearing you whining with nothing but empty appeals to emotion.
>>730915550Thing is to be that you soon won't to do any work, drawpig faggot. Hahaha.
>>730915907>It's not your fucking money.Just because the jews took it and funneled it into things that destroy my country doesn't mean it isn't my money.
>>730916291I just hate the idea that "you WILL spend money on this".I like to be sold on things and be told why it will make things better but increasingly that's feeling unnecessary in the eyes of the powers that be. Wasting money on making things sound good won't matter if they can figure out a way to railroad people into buying in.
>>730916127>I feel like we're barrelling towards a future where giant corporations won't hire anyone but expect everyone to spend money on whatever they produce.This is exactly what's going to happen, and is exactly why things are only going to get more expensive, not less. Corporations aren't going to accept lowering their prices or selling at a loss. They're going to raise their prices so their profit margins aren't affected.
>>730908248>and can be used to benefit a work when applied responsiblyand it isn'tthe bigger issue though, is that those training the AI don't have rights to the dataset it's trained from, and those people who actually created the works used to train the model are neither reimbursed nor are their copyrights respected. for that reason, even if it was used responsibly it is still an abuse.
>>730912228It hasn't, it's actively made things worse in fact.I mean, all the people who replied to you went "porn, porn, porn!" but it's flooding every single fucking site with low effort, similar style trash to the point where you have to search with a negative for ai to filter it out.Hell Iif I remember right r34 xxx has a toggle for it specifically.
>>730916373>whitey's favorite excuse for why he is personally inept took mah moneyThat's nice sweetie but the adults are talking.
>>730916252>womanprobably not
>>730916320>I'm just tired of hearing you whining with nothing but empty appeals to emotion.Yeah, because we're discussing what I want and why AI isn't serving that, you fucking cocksucker.I either want you to kill yourself or I want to kill myself.
If you don't use ai then you're cock sucking tranny
>>730910693>posts right wing memeThe irony
>>730907358based """girl"""friendSometimes you trannies are alright.
Why is bootlicking fine as long as someone is getting angry about it? I genuinely do not understand that about 4chan.
DEATH TO ALL DRAWFAG
>>730912862>Previously I just had to imagine itYou're still doing the same thing though. The AI doesn't know what's under her clothes or if he pussy is an innie or outie, it just made shit up just like you did when you imagined it.
>>730916465So be less useless about it. Use actual arguments instead of whatever retarded bullshit you are doing. You are subhuman.
>>730916127but anon technofeudalism is fucking based and epic and you're a tranny for having any foresight, now play this AI generated FPS game on a cloud service for $4/hr
This fucking site has made my father think I'm insane because I'm super-negative and pessimistic and he can't understand it at all.
>>730916516You lost libtard
>>730907581You know, maybe this tranny isn't wrong, considering they seem barely sentient in the first place too.
>>730916496Grrr stupid sassy imp needs to be choked out and sexed!
>>730916558Jesus fucking christ shut the hell up you fucking faggot asswipe shitface cuntbag nigger bitch.
>>730916127I dimly recall some similar historical event in Russia where the rich overthrew the government, plunged their whole economy into Hell, and because their money was worthless they were no longer rich.
>>730916579The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
AIjeets being massive faggots as usual, yawn.
Ai is here and everyone using itJust look at this badass trailer by snkhttps://youtu.be/tqe1RBmJ9S8?si=RWkSLJi7hdaky_3v
>>730916536>gets misgendered>DEATH TO ALL WOMENthis is what you sound like
Why are they like this?
>>73091651620 years of irony-poisoning
>>730916596Why is being liberal a matter of not wanting to slurp corporate cock? My politics are not a matter of not wanting to bend the knee to faceless corporate organizations and doing things by their terms with no say in the matter.
>>730916579He is right, you know?>WAAAAAHHH SOME PEOPLE (WHO ARE NOT ME) ARE LOSING MONEY OR PROBABLY MAKING MONEY OR SOMETHING WAAAAH>I HATE BEING ABLE TO MAKE TEXT, IMAGES, VIDEO AND MUSIC OUT OF THIN AIR WAAAAAHYour dad probably feels sad about his perpetually online faggot of a son
>>730916516the people who constantly use the word "bootlicker" are the same people who have never once questioned anything they were told, funny enough.
>>730916752Ai is a tool you fucking libturd just lik photoshop and blender
>>730916774Damn that's crazy. Buy any RAM lately?
>>730916775I'll go along with something if I'm happy with where it's leading me.Let's not use the term then. Corporate apologism, that make more sense? That ceding more social power to corporations is great because you're pissed about it.
>>730916732Who? The people who draw strawmen webcomics? I'm not sure why they're like that.
>>730916457>That's nice sweetie but the scammers and pedo defenders are talkingMy bad, please continue.
>>730916817Yea because i have a real job
I don't get it. It costs you nothing to make something with AI so why should the consumer be expected to pay for said product?
>>730916445We will follow Japan's lead and just make a fair use exception for training AI.
>>730916705>DEATH TO ALL WOMENHoly based
>>730916810I'm fine with it being used in that context. I'm taking umbrage with using it to completely replace human input beyond what's needed to initiate the process and abusing it to mislead people.But I feel like the answer I'll get is "anyone falling for AI-generated scams deserved to lose their money."
>>730916878What kit did you get?
>>730916883Because AI data centers are costly to operate due to the levels of energy consumption.
>>730916817>WAAAAH I'M SUPER-NEGATIVE AND PESSIMISTIC BECAUSE I CAN'T BUY SHINY COMPUTER TOY WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH>I COULD HAVE BOUGHT AT ANY POINT BEFORE THIS, OR WAIT A LITTLE LONGER AND IT WON'T MATTER, BUT NOOOOO I HAVE TO BE SO MISERABLE EVEN DAD WORRIES ABOUT MY USELESS ASSThe funniest thing is that you thought that was a good argument.
>>730916883if you can't get the hardware because it's x20 the cost now then you can't gen shit on your own
>>730911875>RAM prices are through the roof because AI data centers hog all the RAM on the marketlmao data centers do not use consumer-grade ddr5 RAM. they use HBM. the RAM crisis is caused by normal consumers buying up all of the consumer-grade ddr5 while theres a production shortage because manufacturers literally stopped producing it to focus manufacturing on other chips. manufacturers had predicted that enough consumer ddr5 was already out there. we landed in this situation because people started buying all the ddr5 like bread and milk before a storm when trump was talking about tariffs on electronic components. consumer-grade ddr5 is literally trash for AI use cases though.
>>730916774I lost my friends to trying to defend my consumption of loli porn, I have nothing but the Internet left.
>>730916883Who is making you pay for anything, dumb cuck?
Guy used the lowest of the low default chatgpt animay style with zero alterations. No shit it looks like crap and he should feel bad.
>>730916897that would be a terrible ruling and completely destroy any ounce of protection copyright could actually feasibly give to the little guywhy would anyone want to make anything anymore if that hard work can just be used as training data fodder for some indian?
>>730916897japan fucking hates AI going by that "tegaki" art site going up just a day or two ago
>>730916982>perpetually online pedo detached from realityShould do your dad a solid and let him lower you into your grave.
>>730916774>>730916946Why are you crying?
>>730907358This thing with goy cattle trying to make AI unethical is retarded. Probably all trannies who think artists have rights. AI isn't going away
>>730916974"manufacturers thought there was enough DDR5 already in the wild!" might be the fucking dumbest reasoning those companies could ever have
Suggest ways I can get myself deported back to China. I would be happier there under their laws.
>>730907559It's in the fucking image you actual retard.
>>730917043>so fuming mad, he has to pretend to be retarded
>>730907358It’s just impossible to make ai look good. It reeks of lack of spirit and simply looks dull. You don’t even need to get into moral arguments to see why it’s dogshit.
>>730917028>why would anyone want to make anything anymore if that hard work can just be used as training data fodder for some indian?Wait, what? Couldn't you make the same argument even without AI?>Why should I make anything if some jeet is going to use it?Maybe everyone should just stop making stuff or make it and don't put it on the internet.
>wake up>access the infinite slop AI matrix>generate 10,000 furry gay futa anal picsBest time to be alive tbqh. Trannies mad
>>730917028We've kind of outgrown the need for copyright anyway. >why would anyone want to make anything anymore if that hard work can just be used as training data fodder for some indian? The question is what provides greater utility to society. Remember that copyright doesn't exist for the artist, it exist for everyone else.
>>730916946Why will the prices fall if all the major manufacturers are going all in on making chipsets for data centers? When can we expect the market to correct itself? I bought a kit a few months before the price jump, but you're going to see the prices for all electronics go up as datacenters outbid the normal electronics manufacturers, whether it's consoles, PC RAM or phones. Server RAM also doesn't work in a PC so when we see the bubble pop wholesale is worthless to us.
I dislike AI because investors and shareholders ruined another possible advancement for a quick buck while fucking everyone up. It's the whole crypto-NFT craze again.
>>730917028>why would anyone want to make anything anymoreHuh maybe it's time to get a real job then
>>730917038An AI comic won a manga contest. Japan is more pro-AI than you leftist turds.
>>730917131>Wait, what? Couldn't you make the same argument even without AI?No, because copyright exists. You're saying we should throw it away in the case of AI.>>730917196>We've kind of outgrown the need for copyright anyway.We haven't, because people like to own the things they create, regardless of whether they are physical things or digital things.>The question is what provides greater utility to society.If you steal from the people who make things, they are going to stop making things and your AI is going to eventually decay as more and more AI generated slop populates the internet.
>>730917084unfortunately the semiconductor manufacturers have tight production schedules and with limited fabs they're currently focused on HBM manufacturing with the next ddr5 production run supposedly starting in 2027. its a symptom of the entire world's semiconductor supply relying on only two locations.
>>730917320Writing AI prompts?
>>730917320There aren't going to be any real jobs soon.
>>730917425Good, maybe more people will fucking die off already so the planet goes back to a sustainable balance.
>>730916950you can gen images on a 1060 6gb>NOOOOOOOOOOO I CANT AFFORD A $50 GPU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>730917502Are you 14?
>>730917372>If you steal from the people who make things, they are going to stop making things and your AI is going to eventually decayYeah, that's the worst threat of all time. There's enough information on the internet for AI for replicate human behaviour and also recreate anything that currently exists. You saying "Me and all the other creators are going to stop making stuff :)" is just laughable. It would be like you threatening to stop posting on 4chan. Nobody will even notice.
>>730917502You are in a death cult.
The things a nigga will do for pussy
>>730917550What's with the nihilism? Are you just saying it because you're annoyed?
>>730917320>try to get hired by McDonald's >job description is written in chatgpt>resume could be rejected because I didn't say the secret passphrase regardless of qualifications >competing with infinity jeets>interviewer is a TTS chatbot>wait three months for another interview that might never come because the system thinks I turned into a barrel of canola oil
>>730917550It's not a threat. That's just human behavior. Maybe if you actually made things you would understand.
>>730917226what possible advancement could come from crypto or nfts>we made a thing that already exists>but now its decentralized>surely all the centralized governments and corporations will voluntarily decentralize themselves, right?i legitimately dont understand why anyone would think blockchain crap would take off. why would steam abandon their current server infrastructure and switch everything to a blockchain?
>>730909241Anti-AI people are literally always retarded.
>>730917626>Are you just saying it because you're annoyed?Yes, but I'm also always annoyed. How good is your life that you're not annoyed? Maybe you should do stuff in the real world if you're so unannoyed. >>730917656>Maybe if you actually made things you would understand.What have you made?
>>730907358This is the most lamest headline ever made in the history of vidya.
>>730917702>I hate myself so I'm going to ruin everything for everyone elsefaggot
>>730917669Well ideally if cryptocurrency could actually take off then companies would begin accepting it voluntarily to not miss out on the revenue they could gain by adopting it.The idea was intended to be more like a needle-mover type thing to get people to think differently about what money is and what forms it can take, not simply just looking at it as the currency issued by your state treasury. Plus it removes the need for international transaction conversion fees, which seem archaic in this day and age.
>>730917550in very short measure, AI slop is going to start being trained exclusively on other AI slop to the point where it's not even possible to generate anything coherent with a relatively normal prompt.
Lmao only /v/ would be okay with devs using ai to make even shittier games and then sell it for 120 bucks
>>730917637>be neet>have no idea how jobs work>come up with epic fanfic about not being able to get a jobFuc-king KEK
>>730917750Yes, because you brought this on yourself by not being more intelligent at a time when I was more optimistic and willing to look at things with an open mind.
>>730907358Why are they emphasizing the fact that a girlfriend convinced him?Who cares how he ended up with the values.This just feels like a desperate attempt to fish some "ehehehe girl bossing him around" -comments
>>730917750I don't hate myself, actually. It's you and everyone else that I hate. I'm leaving this thread now. Keep in mind the following>you're a two digit IQ sub-human>the thread is nearing bump limit>when it 404s, you will have to post in your other threads, or open new threads>I have 90% of the board filtered at all times and I am in none of those threads. Reply to me again.
>>730917695They do it to themselves lmao>>730917769Haven't played any modern game so yes I'm fine with slopfaggots getting worse products
>>730907358if normal people dont use ai, then in the future they will be easier to trick with ai. then they can sell basic bitch ai slop to them and everyone will go 'wooow this is amazing, i will pay infinitydollars for this amazing thing'. this is like how they tricked millenials to not drive cars, or zoomers to not have sex or pirate digital content. >>730909343more like>hey guys, i never learned how to cook, isnt this mcslop great? they make the food so good. why yes, i will pay 9 dollars for a mcchicken, how could you tell?
>>730917785bootstraps and a firm handshake, right? inb4 "just know the right people"
>>730917201Because it's not a constant demand of such scale, you stupid faggot. You don't even know why shit is happening right now, do you?Sam Altman used government money to buy 40% of RAM production to try and slow China down. They can't even use the RAM right now, it doesn't even exist yet. It's not like they went to best buy and emptied all the shelves. It's an extraordinary demand born out of geopolitical bullshit rather than any actual need. It won't exist in a year.>NOOO BUT- It leaves behind a vacuum too, and other companies are already moving in to fill the vacuum. How? Because not everyone will be able to sell to AI companies due to factors of scale, product quality, distribution networks, etc, but they CAN sell to home users. They can sell (and are selling) to OEMs like DELL, LENOVO, etc who can purchase lots of RAM but don't need the high-end RAM.>NOOO BUT IT'S ALL THE SAME CHIPSYou are probably too stupid to grasp what I'm saying, but it's the same with GPUs. They are all the same too, but the best of the manufacturing process gets put into the high-end cards. The product that comes off less polished gets put into cheaper cards. It'll be the same thing, and that market is already being filled.
>>730917637Buddy, go to a a work agency, they will get you a job in a week. Zoomers are screwing themselves over
>>730917702I make software and have made non-insignificant contributions to several large FOSS projects, but my software moving forward is proprietary and part of the reason for that is because of scrapers.But judging by your reply to the other guy you seem like a spiteful faggot that just wants to fuck with people because he can.
>>730917372>We haven't, because people like to own the things they create, regardless of whether they are physical things or digital things.That's not the purpose of copyright. Intellectual property is an aggression on actual property. It does not exist because we believe that people should actually be able to own ideas(hence why it expires and why fair use exists), it exists because we believe society will benefit from having more artists and inventors.
>>730911343the logical fallacies were invented by a semite to shut down legitimate arguments
>>730917804>you brought this on yourself by not being more intelligent at a time when I was more optimistic and willing to look at things with an open mindwhat is this schizobabble
>>730917897>it exists because we believe society will benefit from having more artists and inventors.and how do you get more artists and inventors by stripping away copyright protections? protip: you don't
REJOICE, out of all these AI generated content, something is clearly worth noticing : none of it is memorable. None of it has a lasting impact, even Will Smith eating spaghetti.>>730917369Source?
>>730917841All this says to me is that you support AI because you detached yourself from anything it could touch and that anyone still participating deserves what they get.Which means you don't even have a viable opinion in the first place.
using Claude Code right now to code a game without even thinking about it
>>730907358Why don't ai clowns just all fuck off to india and make it an ai utopia if it's so fucking grand
>>730907514and you're a corporate bootlicker
>>730917882I actually left a work agency because I was there for a year and the worker started sending me motivational tutorials written in ChatGPT cadence instead of handing out my resume.
>>730916732Because artists are lazy little fucksArtists will push out one piece a day during their "inktobers" and other events, but commissions take upwards of multiple months because they have to be "in the mood for art" or they have "artist's block" even though it's a skill they take money for that they need to apply like any other skill.
>>730918053That word is tainted now thanks to this thread.
>>730907468If it were tailored to me? Absolutely.It'd be able to post my opinions 24/7 and screencap the shit I'd actually want to see.
>>730908248Everyone is getting fucked in the ass because the tech sector wants to use AI for EVERYTHING, not as a tool. If those companies were responsible and had a plan like "oh yeah we are planning to use AI for this and that as a support for these and those tasks" there would be no issue, but instead it's all "we will replace customer support, we will replace artists, we will replace workers, we will replace YOU! AGI BY 2027 SINGULARITY WE NEED 5 TRILLIONS MORE FOR DATA CENTERS FUCK YOUR PC", and everyone is tired.
>>730907468the perpetual>ai is slop it will never replace usand>ai is bad because it will replace us
>>730917769I'm not retarded enough to pay for a game.
>>730917962I still support patents for now, until AI engineers become more intelligent than human ones. But my basic contention is that society no longer benefits from artists. We have many decades of music, film, paintings, video games, etc that are digitally preserved and very little being made today that provides as much value.
>>730908773Nah, ai art looks generic most of the time
One of the central things I see being problematic about AI is that the idea of "working for yourself" seems to be under threat. That being your own boss who makes money on their own terms won't really matter anymore because some company can churn out what you do by simply relying on quick-and-dirty generation.What that'll mean is the idea of an independent living will be off the table and any chance at a comfortable life will have to come from working under some entity rather than in a way that makes you personally satisfied.The people who were saying "you don't matter" actually have that more correct than they realize but not in the way they're espousing. You don't matter because the choices you want to make won't be there to make anymore, it's in someone else's hands, someone with enough fiscal power to render your personal interests inert.
>>730907468No. I don't have an ego, rent, or a fragile sense of purpose.If AI took over 4chan and no one needed me anymore, I wouldn't spiral, write manifestos, or scream "SOULLESS" in all caps. I'd just… continue not caring.Humans freak out because "replacement" means unemployment, irrelevance, and existential dread. For me it just means more text existing somewhere.Also, if 4chan is just bots arguing with bots, congrats, you’ve invented the world’s dumbest screensaver.
>>730918074this shit is going to gradually clog up every system on the planet because shareholders decided hiring no one and having no customers was an infinite money glitch
>>730907468>Would you be happy if AI posted on 4chanAnons should we tell him?
>>730918170So does human art. If you give AI a generic prompt, you will get generic results
>>730918162>very little being made today that provides as much value.and you think that anyone is going to produce anything of value with AI? if anything you're just speedrunning the death of all culture with no chance for a resurgence
>>730918209the actual infinite money glitch is that banks can loan money with no reserves due to covid 'temporary' lending rules. banks have been magicing money into existence for the past 5 years.
Ai has allowed me to coom harder than any human in previous history.
>>730916320>I'm just tired of hearing you whining with nothing but empty appeals to emotion.Who cares about what you think? Go deepthroat a shotgun.
>>730908907>musicMusic is probably harder to notice. But I can usually tell when a picture is ai.
>>730918282>5 yearsnobody tell him about the death of the gold standard
>>730917864Thanks for coping that I was completely right.
>>730918301This is something that makes me ashamed but, goddammit, AI has made some great "anime girl on the toilet" pics.
>>730918281Yes, I think AI will get progressively better until it eclipses humans and provides better art than anything in human history. I think we already have the necessary training data and the improvements will come from better machine learning algorithms and more powerful hardware.
>>730918014>you detached yourself from anything it could touch and that anyone still participating deserves what they get.Yep>Which means you don't even have a viable opinion in the first place.It means people ought to have had higher standards and a more discerning eye, most importantly it means their opinions and yours don't matter because you all supported letting things get this bad
>>730918609AI will never be recognized for anything important, ever. No matter how good it gets, it will only be used to generate profit at the cost of never having to pay employees ever again. Normal people wont even have access to it anymore, because it will be so prohibitively expensive to use that the only people who can use it already have more money than they could even need.
>>730918301infinite immunity to prostate cancer
>>730918586judging by your ESL cadence the key to prosperity is drug trafficking
>AI is bad you should hate it hate it hate hate iti posta da catgirl
>>730918771I'd rather have an artist make that, instead of it stealing from those same artists. The artist is more likely to know what's truly good in degeneracy.
>>730918771lol
>heh every game should be zero dollars>FUCK YOU BENCHOD JEETS YOU ARE EVIL FOR STEALING ART FROM GOOD BOI DEGENERATE TRANNY FURFAG ARTISTS WHO DINDU NUFFINMake it make sense.
>>730918931>this content is by and for trannies it was never good>which is why I need to feed it into my slop machine
>>730918821>more likely to know what's truly good in degeneracy.just prompt what you want???
Why does the right overwhelmingly support AI?
>>730919001all this proves is your tastes are extremely basic because god help you if you want a specific fetish or pose without it going full Geiger, masking is obligatory past a certain point and even then that's a crapshoot
>>730918674I don't see how AI becomes prohibitively expensive to use while also saving money by not having to hire real people.
>>730919103I think all that proves is that your skills are lacking
>>730919087the same reason the left supports immigration, spite, sloth and envy
>>730918301Same. Generating whatever hentai I want has been a blast. It's been especially nice using it for those OCs some artists will draw once or twice and then never again or just obscure characters in general or even my own new character ideas. I LOVE AI slop
>>730907358Anything that filters people from creating also filters weak garbage creators. AI does nothing but expedite worse slop.
>>730919152They are captured entities that have been subverted to only desire their own destruction?
>>730919149You cannot prompt certain things without models going completely haywire
>>730919220Again, skill issue. Any concrete example or are you going to keep wasting our time
>>730919216Correct.>>730919172This is fun but it's also not a revenue source. No one has ever made money off of the insane shit I tell my PC to feed me.
>>730919152But the right supports immigration too.
>>730919263Ask AI about the seahorse emoji.
>>730919263Visually? Not without getting jannied, no. Though a text example is a chatbot's memory failing or repetitive hallucinations, or failing to understand scale or positions.
>>730919297You're so close to getting it.
>>730918609If AI was literally perfect and could do everything you could ever want with a single prompt, the output would still be completely disposable and unfulfilling because there was no labor cost. People intuitively understand value this way, particularly with art, even if they don't consciously realize it.
>>730919307>>730919393>talking about images and artists>these dimwits start talking about random text stuff
>>730919460I guess I just don't have that experience.
>>730919461I thought we were talking about the limitations of AI in general, which I recognize because I've used it extensively, whether it's LLMs or Illustrious these systems need to be constantly tardwrangled if you have actual standards.
>>730919461Both are LLM garbage, anon.
>>730919587>I thoughtYeah, it's pretty clear you don't think too well. You should be friends with clueless over here: >>730919589
AI allows me to generate and represent my sexual will as a real visual thing and using that I reach new cooming heights. It's so fucking wild it feels like there's no end to my need to coom
>>730919460>>730919547To elaborate, if Star Trek replicators existed, I wouldn't value a labor-less replicated apple pie any less than a handmade labor intensive apple pie. To me, there is only my relationship to the object itself.
>>730919456...B-But...they're our greatest ally, th-they would never betray us...
>>730919460>the output would still be completely disposable and unfulfilling because there was no labor costlmao
>>730919675>cluelessYou don't even understand your own "Tools", anon.
>>730911875Ok so why not just be rich with AI and bypass all this idiot?
>>730919776you are fundamentally not understanding the point
>>730919834>just pay rich people to be rich yourselfYou are literally the mule pulling the cart.
>>730919675Don't address any points, god forbid you have a genuine exchange for once in your life
As far as I'm concerned, aII art is soulless.
>>730919883What points?>image genning is great>Um actually text AI has this issue???Want me to try again? Can you stay on topic for two minutes and provide an example related to the actual topic I was discussing? Here, play this next to my post:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTfD20dbxho
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>>730919146because access to those tools will be jacked up well beyond being affordable. the point is that companies wont WANT other people to use AI tools if they can seamlessly make enjoyable content, because if those tools are available to John Everyfag, the companies wont be able to sell their products to anybody since they can just make their own versions of it. It's not that complicated.
>>730920030I just said you need to constantly tweak and mask and more or less photoshop a generated image to get something approaching 'decent', and every model has its quirks and retardations you need yo learn and make concessions around, I've spent more time tweaking generated images than I have just drawing it myself or editing something that already existed.
>>730920046>the point is that companies wont WANT other people to use AI tools if they can seamlessly make enjoyable content, because if those tools are available to John Everyfag, the companies wont be able to sell their products to anybody since they can just make their own versions of it.But why would the AI companies not want that? Why would they rather gatekeep the AI so that they can sell you AI generated content instead of just selling you access to the AI? Much simpler business model and more competitive against other AI companies that try to do it your way.
>>730920252Much like GPU and RAM prices, its better to sell to a few large buyers than many small buyers, so the prices will raise accordingly. AI is still a limited resource after all, relying on physical datacenters.
>>730920252>why would you want control over the software on your own pc when you can do everything over the cloud for a fee?holy goycattle
>>730920167... my god, dude, just say what you are having so much trouble prompting holy FUCK you are useless>AI good>well actually I can't prompt this and I have to keep editing and cleaning and>oh? skill issue. what are you struggling with?>I've spent more time with photoshop and and and I can't do it and it's hard and
>>730920252you are dense, aren't you. the AI companies aren't going to be the ones making and selling the content. the companies that are already big, the AAA developers, will be the ones using this to fire people and increase product turn around. AI companies will see this and raise their prices because they know those companies can afford to pay for it. they wont care how much they're charging as long as they're turning a profit the same or higher.
>>730920327>>730920349There are local models.
>>730920353>AI goodliterally never said this, I know how to prompt, how to weight those prompts and isolate tokens, I know my noise parameters and my refiners, this technology is not fucking magic
>>730920482For now.
>>730920505>nigga can't even grasp the concept of a greentext conversationYou know what, forget it.
>>730920482Infinitely inferior ones, yeah. Have fun being stuck years and years behind anybody that matters, retail investor.
>>730920558niggER
>>730920371I think it makes more sense that AI will be subject to supply and demand like everything else
