Are you ready for your Steam Machine, PS6, and Steamdeck 2 prices to be $1000 starting?
>$1000 startingi admire your optimism
so trannies will be mad for at least 10 years? can't stop winning
>ai "surges">9 years of shortagesthose niggas are retarded. current AI tech is fucking prehistoric, the advancement we make every years will make all this brute force and quda religion die before they finish their first few dozen of datacenters
>>730919546>AI>intelligence
kill all AI trannies
1000$ is too low btw. 1200$
Stop hurting society
bubble will pop long before 2035i'm not saying aislop will go away entirely, just that the current frenzy will implode worse than the dotcom bubble
>>730919546im ready for the bubble when none of that shit will translates to actual money and all those companies will go under
at least the libs are owned, right
I voted for this
I will never one any of these.
>saves the west
>>730919546YESYESYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES THEY KEEP GETTING LONGER THE MORE I READ THEM
Best we can do is attack Venezuela and Greenland
>>730920497seething europoor tranny
>>730919546I dont think most society will be able to function if people cant have personal computers for home or for businesses Hell I think the bubble might be popping in like 2 years or less
>>730921380people will simply stop upgrading perfectly functional setups every year like mindless consumers. If my computer died tomorrow I still have my previous rig, and another previous one, and my laptop.
>>730921492My PC will be good for a long while but I still cannot see how this is sustainable. Something has got to give
nah, AI is about to crash and burn. I can already see smoke. I'm not worried. You're all just doomers.
>>730920497dilate spic
>>730921380Only a small percentage of people owned high end PCs. Normgroids are satisfied with shitty laptops and phones
>>730920221$1200? A steal at $1500
I used a pc with a 1070 for 10 years, I can use my 3060 and 32 gigs of ram for a long time
>>730921101What if a man just really likes gooning to videos of women angrily marching in line and playing the bagpipes? Where was their category on Brazzers? This is worth ram costing $1700
>>730921661Yeah, I'm not too worried. I also have some back up computers and hardware in my closet just in case I get component failure. Being a prepper pays off sometimes.
China will step in and flood the market with cheap RAM, GPUs, CPUs, etc.Only Americans will be banned (by their own regulators and gubmint) but the rest of the world will still be using PCs even if they're Chinese.Nvidia/AMD/Intel will still be faster but if they're stupidly expensive and unattainable it doesn't matter.
>>730921380It's already starting to crash and burn.
>>730919546I don't buy overpriced fashion accessoriesexcept cigarettes I guess
>>730921792>redditspacing>china will take over the worldyawn
*pssht, pssht, don't laugh**turns around*And when exactly will this be
>>730919546AI will crash before 2035
>>730919546Steam Deck 2 will be the same price as the current Steam Deck. Valve's going to discontinue the current Deck when Deck 2 rolls around and go cheap with the Deck 2. Steam Machine will be $700, PS6 will be $800 but the Steam Machine and Steam Deck 2 make only a PlayStation redundant since SteamOS makes the Machine and Deck open consoles unliked the locked down closed PlayStation.
>>7309195462035 now. Can it be 2135 now? Safe margin. And we all die so someone stays right.
>>730919546I'm ready for the whole thing to crash and burn. This period of history is too boring to give a shit about.
>>730920297The AI toys aren't the goal here, the tech companies aren't betting the economy on AI assistants, image, voices, and video generation, what they're after is efficiency gains and workforce reductions. They think that by leveraging AI tools the efficiency gains can reduce the current workforce by 30%~40% without loss in productivity.To put that into perspective lets say you own a small tech company with 10 programmers, each programmer costs you $60,000 a year, that's $600,000 total you're spending on your employees, if the AI companies are right you can do the same amount of work using their tools that you previously needed 10 programmers to do with only 6~7 programmers meaning by using their tools you're reduced your overhead by $180,000~240,000 a year. That's why they're investing billions into AI and building massive data centers for. The AI generated videos and images, chatbots ect are just a fun little side gig. They aren't planning on running the economy on selling everyone AI slop toy premium subscriptions, they're gambling billions on the idea that they can sell AI to corporations so those corporations can do more with fewer people. If they can save $240,000 a year by using your tools they'll gladly pay $80,000 a year to use them. Then you apply that to entire international economy and you can see how this gets very profitable very quickly.
>>730922561Techno Feudalismchads gonna be eating good real soon.
>>730919625this. try $1500
>>730922793*$3000 + tip
i have yet to encounter a vidya scenario where my 16gb of ddr4 are not enough.
>>730922561Yeah except they aren't developing AI, they are developing LLM bullshit which is a dead end.
>>730919546>spent around $700 upgrading my PC last year>those same parts are now selling for twice as muchI'm glad I got in before this but holy fuck
>>730922969They've all decided to call it AI but yeah its an LLM, point is that LLM can generate things, like code, and using LLMs a programmer can do more work, faster, meaning each worker is more productive, so you don't need as many of them to keep your operations going which saves you money. They don't need REAL HAL9000 fully aware AGI to get there, that's not part of the plan in the short term. The short term plan is just about efficiency gains, your texture artist can make a wall texture by writing in a prompt and then touching that up in photoshop, takes him about an hour, he used to have to start by searching a database of stock images and layering bits together and painting large portions of it and it'd take him 3 hours, so this guy is more effecient so you don't need as many texture artists to hit your game's deadline, so you save money by firing the now redundant texture artists, that's the idea, you're not just hiring AI workers who do the whole thing themselves yet.
>>730923275Speaking as a programmer, LLMs only make the absolute worst jeet programmers better because they were incapable of passing classes without copypasta'ing from stackoverflow in the first place.
>>730922561assuming this is true who the fuck is going to be buying things if suddenly 30% of the workforce is laid off?seems really retarded and short-sighted
>>730922561the endgoal is Technofeudalism, but in the same time they want the Artificial General Intelligence or ASI aka Artificial superintelligence to happen just for them to control it, but they won't control it because the real thing will rather rape mankind and burn everything down than to be a slave for the ""elite""
>>730923275LLM can generate code, but it will also generate complete bullshit if it doesn't happen to know how to generate whatever it is that you want it to generate. It won't tell you it doesn't know either, because it doesn't know it doesn't know.You have to double check everything an LLM writes. That's work that has to be done by humans who are experts in the field.I'm sure you can increase efficiency with LLMs if you have tasks that fit well, but don't oversell it. It's highly unlikely there is gonna be 30-40% improvement. Not even close.
There's nothing worth upgrading your pc build for in the coming years
>>730923384Writing good code is easier than auditing bad code, unfortunately, so it's not a net benefit for anyone but the absolute worst "programmers"
>>730923446Well I'm sure an expert programmer can have LLM spit out some boilerplate crap and reduce the time it takes to write a program, that would be an efficiency gain. I just don't see it being a particularly huge one.
>>730919546>$1000 phoneyes>$1000 consoleum, HR?
>>730921492>calls others mindless consumers>has 4 computers
>>730923508Well that's right now, the idea is that these models get better, and that boilerplate it spits out gets closer to something usable with each no iteration. That's gamble they're making anyway, who knows if they can hit their 30~40% goal, but the potential is what is driving the investment, not that the tools are mature enough right now to realize it.
>>730923350>assuming this is true who the fuck is going to be buying things if suddenly 30% of the workforce is laid off?What does that matter? They want feudalism. The richest, most infinitely powerful and opulent living people in history were middle ages aristocrats, yes they had shorter lives and worse health due to the era but NOTHING today bar fucking Nork tier dictatorship has anywhere near that divine level of power and guess what? They didn't need consumers buying shit from them to have that.They plan to turn you into either fertilizer or a serf working the land to feed them, while they live as kings.
>>730923350As>>730923675Money was only needed for the temporarily steps to build the groundwork to return to feudal society, they've got all they need now, it's just about sealing the deal at this point
>>730923626Not him but for the price of 1 new iphone, I can get two Thinkpads and build a budget rig, even today, recasing some old office shitbox from Egay.
>>730923626over 20 years you fucking retard, meanwhile you buy an iphone every year
>>730919546>[THING] salesman predicts shortage of [THING] forever! Buy now!
>>730919546>AI surgesSurges how and where? Isn't it "surging" now? What the fuck else can they even do with it?
It is amazing how much regression is happening at the speed it is for something that is supposed to advance the human race.Atrophy is serious business.
>>730919546can't you save $1000?
>>730919681
>>730920243WHY THE FUCK WE ALWAYS HAVE TO BEND THE KNEE FOR THOSE FUCKERS?WHY ARE THEY NEVER TAKING ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THEIR INVESTMENTS FUCKUPS AND BLAME THE FUCKING CUSTOMERS HOLY FUCKING SHIT I HATE THIS CAPITALIST HELLHOLE.
>>730919546>every piece of tech is now worth triple than a year agothat's bad, but>I can offline-generate custom-tailored porn vids with niche fetishes to my likingscoomers wins.
We need hardware availability to regress so that software companies will be forced to fire DEIs and hire white men again.
>>730919546Buy Phison now! And bump my stocks!t. Phison CEO.
>>730927909Yes everyone knows Trump has his hands in the tech sector
>>730928365You voted for this.
>>730928663>he doesn't know
>>730928581>and hire white men again.Mr. Gupta won't allow that. He'll keep outsorcing to India until either the company literally catches fire or he's forcefully SWATted into resigning.>no option for the company correcting his courseBecause they don't care about that.
>>730928746I DID NOTI DID NOT FUCKING VOTE FOR THIS
>>730920297AI is cool. The corporations are not. If they were so set on beating China, they'd be banding together and collaborating instead of being giga jews all trying to build their own individual fuckhuge data centers to work on their own independent models.
>>730928365>WHY THE FUCK WE ALWAYS HAVE TO BEND THE KNEE FOR THOSE FUCKERS?What's your definition of not bending the knee? Using state power and threat of imprisonment or deadly violence to force chip makers to sell their products to gaymers?>I HATE THIS CAPITALIST HELLHOLEYou've got a computer to complain on 4chan with because of capitalism. Go ask the EU to make some ethical and properly regulated memory and GPUs for you. kekIt's funny to watch /v/ move from denial to anger. General intelligence is power, and your ideal collectivist shithole as well as capitalist societies want more of it. People want to reach immortality, robot waifus, personal world simulators where one can be God, see what's out there in space, potential world dominion if one happens to belong to the organization that births the Genie, see a digital human brain or make a bet to save the world, aside from simply making the number go up. The world simulator part should be highly interesting to any gamer. You can scream and rage and snivel and pound sand over the fact that you can't get the latest grafics accelerator for your pig westoid high polygon UE trash slop, nobody cares.
>>730919546These statements only exists to pump up RAM prices even more...
>>730929593The AI bros are getting funded by governments both local and federal in the USA. So the governments not funding them would be a good start toward not bending the knee.
>>730928365>WHY ARE THEY NEVER TAKING ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THEIR INVESTMENTS FUCKUPS AND BLAME THE FUCKING CUSTOMERSWhy would you, ever, take raccontabilità ?
>>730929829That wouldn't make computer components meaningfully cheaper, the singularity is happening anyway. Next you'd cry for price controls. I agree on principle that less state meddling is better but it's way easier doing it this way than undoing hundreds of years of regulation and red tape otherwise kneecapping the infra buildout (Elon made some kind of attempt and NGOs started bombing his cars) and the US would just default on its loans, lose the reserve currency status and get destroyed by China (who are working extremely close with their AI bros at the local and federal level) in a Pacific war way faster without it. Which is fine but it'd be good if we could get to space and access the final frontier once and for all before the golem crumbles.>WE [...] BEND THE KNEE>governments not funding them would be [...] not bending the kneeYou're naive about what the government is and cares about. Your government isn't bending the knee. It's anxiously, covetously rubbing its hands and shoving taxpayer money at the sorcerer completing his stone
>>730930521It would, though. If they have less money to spend on shit, then said shit becomes cheaper. This is basic economics. Are you completely economically illiterate perhaps?
>>730930521>Your government isn't bending the knee.I am the one bending the knee, retard, the government is spending wealth it taxes from me on AI. If the government stops doing that, I taxes less of it from me.In before you say something retarded like "the government doesn't tax you, it prints money" without understanding the mechanics behind that act.
>>730928365Okay but have you thought of the CEO yet?
>>730919546>snagged a 4TB SN8100 for under $400 last monthI'm good for at least 5 years
>>730920243AI has done nothing but damage to society and the environment.
>>730930607>It would, though.Not meaningfully.>>730930668>If the government stops doing [AI subventions], I taxes less of it from meNope. This is just more debt, and it's a rare instance of reasonable debt, because the growth that AGI/ASI will generate is on the beginning of an upward exponential.Anyway, luddites will continue to scream and shit their pants. Again, nobody cares. People want POWER and this is it.
>>730919546>experts say the shortage will last up to 2027>prices may go up to $800>ram will be tough to get all the way up to 2030>you'll be lucky to get a stick for $1000>why would you even need ram in 2035?>$2000 will be the norm>In 2040 there will be no more ram and you will use the cloud>$3000 monthly sub is a steal
>>730930849What the fuck do you think debt is you economically illiterate subhuman? You're the luddite here, you can't even understand the most basic of economics because apparently you're unable to use technology to a sufficient degree to learn how things work.
>>730930521>>730930849>dude we're gonna make the hecking computer god!!!At what point do we start rounding up these people to put them into mental asylums?
I just built a PC for 2.5k . I expect and demand that it will last me for the next 20 years now.
>>730920297worth
>>730919546wonder how much hyper-inflation this is going to end up causing.These things are nowhere near the value they are selling for right now, these companies are going broke (and going into fuck huge massive debt, more debt then some countries even have) to support trying to scale these massive, inefficient, money holes of data centers that don't provide services or goods people actually want.Once something breaks the cycle of them taking on debt to pay more money to a company, who then takes on more debt and trades more money cyclically, IF they get bailed out (they will) the value of most 1st world currencies will be absolutely ruined.
>>730920297cool gamer trannies btfo'd oh no you can't play your hallway walker simulators at 30fps sorry :)
TRUTH NUKE:Most AI companies are in deep debt and are not able to produce any ROI.2026 Q2 will be the first round of many collections of debts, which will bankrupt a huge amount of AI corpos and cripple the big ones like OpenAI and AI infrastructure corpos like Coreweave. That, plus many corpos will have Shareholders meetings that will have them demand proof of ROI, which nearly none of them will be able to do.TLDR: The crash is going to start this year, and once retarded corpos like Nvidia see their plans fall through they'll come back begging for consumer forgiveness.
>>730935545The annoying part is that once the house of cards collapses, we're all still fucked because it's propping up the entire global economy. And we won't even get cheap RAM because the chips they're using aren't even the same as the ones for consumer PCs. So it'll all just be useless e-waste
>>730934873Probably will. We're long past the point of computers having any meaningful tangible leaps in power like there used to be. If I didn't care about games, I could still use my i5 2500k no problem, I just would need a couple extra sticks of ddr3 because 8gb isn't enough with all the modern bloat, even on linux. My current build is still AM4/DDR4. I don't foresee needing to upgrade from a 5800x3d any time soon
>>730935545>vice president chosen and puppeted by actual, unironic technofeudalists>thinks that there isn't gonna be a bailoutSorry goy, but G*d's Chosen People always win.
>>730919546>memory manufacturer has the news agency write a fake article about how the memory shortage is going to get shorter
>>730935756>it's propping up the entire global economyNo its not lmao overwhelming majority of planet isnt balls deep in AI. Its america and their USD thats going to be gaped the most by very far when this shit bubble pops. This shit will unironically help chink yuan a lot because even chinks arent as retarded to pour such insane amount of money into AI and havent completly forgot about other economic sectors like mutts and tech bros did.
>>730935543Fertilizer class caught talking, into the grinder with you
>>730927909Is that the whore that shows herself getting fucked by other guys than her husband?
