It wasn't a good Zelda game
i mean, none of the 3d ones are when we stop being dishonest about what we say
You need creativity to get the most out of it. Nintenturds hate anything that doesn't hold their hand
>>730921787>You need to make you're own fun brono.
>nuzelda is trashtell me something I don't know
>>730921856Yes anon you just described a sandbox game
Why do people like to hate on games that push the boundaries of innovation? Not a single AAA dev managed to make a game as soulful and creative as TotK.
It just wasn't a good game at all. I suppose it often was when I actually felt like I was playing a new game, but those moments didn't exist outside of a few setpieces.
>>730922027Zelda games were never sandbox gamesZelda secondaries need to fuck off
>>730922196(you)
>>730922398Zelda was never 3D... until it was
>>7309224453d is not a genre
>>730922398Zelda games were never linearSNES secondaries need to fuck off
ToTK: Nuts and Bolts was never a good idea.
It belongs with Skyward Sword as the worst 3D Zelda.
>>730921686It was a fine game, but needed something more substantial at its core to tie everything together like everyone wanted more dungeons like Hyrule Castle and they should've made more of that.
>>730922565nah, its in b tier with Wind Waker
>>730922479It really is.
>>730921686At least it was better than wind waker and the 2d games
It wasn't a good game in general.
>>730922857lol
>>730922479Open world is also not a genre, it is just an overbloated level select for the rest of the game.If the open world leads you to linear levels, then the game is still a collection of linear levels, therefor BotW after being broken down is mostly just Warioware minigames for the Koroks, unimmersive sim microlevels for the shrines, "The Witness" tier puzzleboxes for the dungeons and an immersive sim level for the final dungeon.
>>730922196 I don’t hate totk but a banjo kazooie nuts and bolts spiritual successor isn’t what I wanted out of a breath of the wild sequel
>>730921686This and BotW is killing nintendo right now
>>730921762Agreed. I hate 3D Zelda now. Used to be fine with it, but it killed 2D Zelda so fuck you.
>>730922857this
>>730921787creativity to do what tho? make a statue to get a few thousand updoots on reddit? the game does require you to do anything with ultrahand thats even slightly difficult. most ultrahand puzzles are just "put the last wheel on this premade car" or "put this puzzle piece in the other block in the right way" or "hold up this guys sign with one of your hundreds of floating platform things (theres fucking 81 of these btw)" when i first got the game i thought i was gonna love ultrahand but you literally dont actually get to create anything with it. i havent even mentioned yet that they limit you with the smallest battery ever that you have to put hours in grinding to make it even usable, so even if you wanted to have fun making an inefficient car with a buncha weapons or something, it would run out of battery immediately. thats why everyone just uses a hoverbike. who wouldve guessed adding sandbox elements to a non-sandbox game without even TRYING to support those new elements would make them not fun
>>730922943ur retarded, the game is designed around you being able to go literally anywhere as long as you can see it. youre describing the smaller interactions of the game, conveniently forgetting that over half of the time you spend in the game will be interacting with the open world and exploring it. if botw really boils down to you as just shrines and hyrule castle then you might just instead be autistic and forgot to actually explore the open world
>>730921787>If it's not fun, why bother?A game is a way to teach someone something in a way that is fun or engaging, if it is not fun or engaging on its own, then it fails the strict definition of a game, much like how a VN is not a game.TotK is neither good, nor Zelda nor a game.
>>730923754>interacting with the open world and exploring itThis is the failing of open world, it simply is not a real thing to aspire to, just a delusional idea of an infinitely granular and interactive world or a way to convince people that a much smaller mismanaged project was attempting to be follow along with that delusional idea.The open world is just an arbitrary degree of decompression and desolation added to the game so that it can lead you between content that has no real flow.
>>730921686whamp whaamp, OP
>>730924098when its a game like the new metroid prime or something like that, where the open world is completely devoid of anything interesting and only serves as a way to make point A to point B seem bigger, then i would agree, but i think BOTW is one of the few games that actually manage to make open world a good thing. if youre autistic and want to immediately get to the "content" of goron city or the zora kingdom or something, then i could see you ignoring everything in your path that youre supposed to interact with, then complaining that the open world is pointless, but a regular person makes it a goal to just go in the general direction of something they think looks interesting, and stop for every other interesting thing they see along the way. i think the koroks for example do a little bit too much padding, but there is more than enough interesting stuff to get distracted by on the way to an objective that BOTWs open world actually feels fun and rewarding to explore
>>730921686Three overworlds to explore was kinda overkill. I ended up like the depths more than the actual game though. I'm probably the only depthschad, actually.
Still seething LMFAOO
>>730925439>Game was so bad they had to pay their Jap friends to give them an awardkekaroo!
>>730925748Daily reminder that TotK Switch 2 Edition was the highest rated game of 2025.BotW was 2nd.Never stops being funny. Make sure you stay ass mad every day and never get over it. XDD
>>730921686Zelda hasn't been good since Twilight Princess. And I'm as serious as a heart attack when I say that.All toon Link games are trash. Wind Waker might be passable.Skyward Sword fucked up the lore, looked like shit, and was just gay.I don't have a 3DS, so I haven't played ALBW, but I never really cared for ALttP, so bleh.BotW continued the shit SS lore. Fuck crafting in a Zelda game. Fuck Upgrading equipment in a Zelda game. Fuck temperary weapons in a Zelda game. FUCK NOT LETTING YOU USE THE MASTER SWORD WHENEVER YOU WANT IN A FUCKING ZELDA GAME. Only good thing about it was flying, and sexy, thirsty, Gerudos.TotK just as shit as BotW, but continued to RUIN the lore, and the Sheika slate stuff was even worse this time. Only good thing was sexy gerudos and sexy Pura.
>>730926076i hate how totk tried to redo the story in OoT but like didnt address it at all. like theres the sages and trapping ganon and everything but this time rauru is a cat guy and zelda gets transported to the past and turns into a dragon. its retarded. at least flying on dragon zelda was cool
>>730925439>>730926065Based. This board will never recover from double-whammy of BotW and TotK.
>>730926284Why are you replying to yourself
>>730926076I miss when link was a swordsman with techniques he learned
>>7309217623D games combat never felt good at the overhead games, I'll tell you that.
>>730926204SS, BotW and TotK, have forsaken the 3 goddess; who should be the most important lore and religion in Hyrule, for Hylia/Zelda Jesus.Even if they made Hylia canon, which they did, Hylia is not that important of a figure compared to the 3 goddesses. But since SS, she is literally Vishnu/Jesus of The Legend of Zelda now.Hundreds of Hylia statues. Everyone prays to her. Everyone knows of her. Not one fucking mention or imagery of the 3 goddesses since maybe Phantom Hourglass, or definitely TP.And it makes no fucking sense. Hylia is not shown or mentioned at all in games that should be later in the timeline. Nothing in ALttP, nothing in Ocarina, nothing in any of the games that came out before SS, and no hint of a new religious figure.And you know, maybe in SS she could have been a big deal, but was forgotten as time went on.BUT NO! Not only is she suddenly REMEMBERED in the farthest future of the games; BotW and TotK, BUT she has completely replaced the 3 goddesses and there is ZERO rumor or imagery of them any more.And same goes for the 3 dragons. If they were in SS and disappeared as time when on, fine. But just like Hylia, they endured until the farthest future. And despite being cognitive, human speaking slightly anthropomorphized dragons in SS, they are no non-speaking, 5 legged Chinese dragons.It makes no fucking sense. AND the Hyrule historia came out BEFORE BotW and TotK, so they can't say everything wasn't down and written in stone and they had no direction on how to write the story and the lore for these cames that take place 10,000 fucking years in the future.
>>730921787>just use your creativity to... help this guy hold up his sign 50 different times in a row
>>730927806it takes a real creative visionary type to pull out the floating platform
>>730921686
>>730927806So this… is the power of Nintendo…
>>730927976>oot and alttp in c but mm in aExplain yourself
So did that "YOU LOST AND GOT RAPED ERIC" tranny finally ACK himself? Haven't seen that mentally ill fucker in a while.
>>730921686It’s interesting how it, along with other Nintendo products, are becoming more and more like what video games actually are, that is, toys. Tears of the Kingdom is the digital equivalent of sitting in a playground and making something out of building blocks as a 3 year old and then running to another end of the playground to see what it’s like, but don’t stray too far from your parents/hyrule (you can’t go any further); somehow it’s more restricting.
>>730928078He's probably in jail for rape
>>730921686Links new habilities and the Zonai devices broke the game so hard it was funny. They completely killed the fun of traversing the map from Breath of the Wild. Every river, mountain, chasm and storm was a challenge. Now you can just builg a lego helicopter and fly in a straight line from A to B.
>>730927976When it really comes down to it… I think the only one I actually like is OoT, considering it’s the only one that I often have a desire to go back to
>>730928078I miss him. Also TotK is literally just BotW DLC at full price. Same map, game, everything
who cares about that schizo, i'm just glad i can finally vent about nu-zelda without some retard think nintendo is perfect and can do no wrong.I hate how totk was doing some native american/siberian tribal shit visually for a series that clearly is european inspired
>>730928063In MM, the 3 day cycle essentially turns the entire game into a an intricate puzzle. Also, the 3 later dunduns are some of the best in the series. The spookiness and character interactions are pretty kino.alttp and oot are solid zelda games, but the puzzles are too easy. WW only beats them because it's super charming. Swtich Zeldas don't have any intricate puzzles (a few good small ones, sure), but my enjoyment came from the exploration.
>>730928393it wouldve been fine imo if it wasnt still in the hyrule from botw (yes i know the aztec zonai shit was in botw too). if the game was in a new map like majoras mask it wouldve been way better. totk in general shouldve been more inspired by MM rather than trying to retread OoT
>>730928128>It’s interesting how it, along with other Nintendo products, are becoming more and more like what video games actually are, that is, toysI don't think that's quite right. Games are a rule-based system, a toy is a thing or tool to which rules can be applied.There is no game in the playground example until 3 year old manifests a game into existence by imposing values and purpose onto it, otherwise it is just a collection of objects and physical boundaries.A game comes with pre-imposed values and purpose, therefor a video game that strictly fits the property of being just a toy, is also no longer a game, and would instead be either an inert object or a development tool for making a game. By that merit Nintendo products would be very limited development tools when compared to alternatives.
>>730921686It wasn't a good game period.
