For the few brave ones who managed to beat all the games and start this, are you enjoying? The rest of you need to catch up haha...
>>730923309Nah. I played through all but reverie and azure and I'm still going to play horizon.
>>730923309The ENG dub is amazing, i love it so farthe port itself is incredible too, based durante
I played them all up to Daybreak but it was so bad I dropped the series. Considering Daybreak 2 and Horizon are both filler I don't regret my decision.
>>730923309I can't continue the series cause Daybreak 1 is out of stock everywhere so I can't buy it.
>>730923309The only game I have played beyond Trails in the Sky is the first Trails of Cold Steel game which I still haven't finished, nor am I motivated to finish.Nothing I have read or witnessed has convinced me that going beyond the Trails in the Sky games is worth it.
>>730926878>Skyfag hates KisekiWater is wet
>>730923309I don't want to be mean, but how much of a weeb do you have to be to sit through 13 games of "I didn't fight seriously, haha". What's the appeal?
onlyvans
Why do people keep playing these games after cs4?
>>730927295We call it kino>>730927387>why do people keep playing these games after the best game in the seriesTruly a mystery
I've been playing Kuro on and off since 2023 and still haven't finished it because it's boring as fuck
>>730926878>>730927295>>730927341>>730927387back to /fg/ with you lot
>>730923309I haven't played trails since Cs3 wHERE THE FUCK IS REAN
>>730926878I get it. Cold steel is seriously trash. From the harem bullshit, to Rean being gods specialist princess who can literally do no wrong because everything is either explained away as not his fault or he feels the most guilt to ever guilt came to guilt town. And all the characters cannot go 5 minutes without talking about him. But crossbel is nearly as good as sky, with a great core cast, and daybreak is solid too. Except 2. Which is dog shit. Basically play everything but just get summaries of cold steel.
>>730927445you're the one that knows all about it apparently not me, I think you're the one that belongs there
>>730927445The onlyvans one is true though.
>>730923309>Oh hey did you guys miss the shill thread we had yesterday?>No problem, here is another one. saar please buy the $200 edition.
I just started Kuro 2 haha...
For me, it's Towa.
>>730923309Kinda enjoying this game actually. Which is a huge upgrade from DB2. Jesus what happened there?
>>730927878WHITED
>>730927878kek
>>730924169Based
>>730923309Honestly, yeah, I'm only 8 hours in but so far it's really enjoyable! It's nice to feel like the plot's actually moving again and I'm surprised how much I missed Van and his crew.
>>730924169>skipping Azure
>>730923309really good so far but these games are insanely long so i have no idea what my final verdict will be
Did anyone but me prefer her old design?
>>730931103I like her shorter hair more than I care about her larger breasts.
>>730931103She feels like she has more personality now, but I'm not sure I actually -like- that personality. It was almost better when she had none, but it doesn't make sense for her character to be as personality-less as it was forever, so I get it.
>>730923309>The rest of you need to catch up haha...
>>730931103Me too, anon. Something about her expressions and hair layering, maybe.
>>730931103Not a fan of her longer hair, CS3-reverie was ok, Kuro long hair was very meh
I'm still in the middle of CSIV but gave the demo a try. Not gonna lie, seeing my boy Kevin make a comeback while teaming up with a matured Rean put a fat grin on my face and gave me something to look forward to.Do they actually get a lot of screentime?
>>730932625Horizon is like 70% Van so you don't play as Rean and Kevin as much as I'd like but they do have a decent amount of screen time.
>>730932675That sounds fine and fair. As long as it's not just a bait and switch where they only show up for maybe 2 hours.
>>730931103Old design but with Sky remake/Daybreak fidelity would be perfect.
>>730933269Wait for the Trails of Cold Steel remake
>>730931103Fie peaked at CS2
I'm close to the end of my CS1 playthrough and I need to lock in and pick my wife.For people who actually played all the games, do you recommend Emma or Fie? I think Emma is the hottest while Fie has a nice personality.Was leaning towards Fie but is she even a real option? It feels like the game wants me to pick one of the big 3 (Alisa, Laura, Emma).
>>730931103Sara ruined her
>>730933973Yes Fie is a real love interest. She was my choice for CS1
>>730934074>Yes Fie is a real love interestHuh, I see. Maybe I'll flip a coin.
>>730933973Both solid choices. Emma gets pretty close to Rean in the later games, Fie gets some good development and stays relevant in the next arc.Now someone like Laura would be a bad choice, I loved her a lot in 1 but she's just a dead fish in the story. The devs spare her no development.
>can make it run on potato ass hardware but also can tax 5090 with UNLIMITED DETAILNisa doesn't deserve Durante.
>>730923309Are there swimsuits in this game?
>>730934943As DLC yes
>>730934356Oh is Fie part of the Calvard games too? I'm definitely picking her then.
>>730935125Fie is the 2nd most relevant returning heroine of Rean's. I don't actually remember if you've met the 1st so I'll not say. It's not Alisa though that's for sure. Her "main heroine" vibe is entirely gone after CS1.
>>730923309How do I best take the Hahapill?I heard that Trails in the Sky is the first game and that the order is pretty important in this series. Do I go for the original or the remake?I kinda like the 3D aspect of the remake. Is playing it first a big mistake?
>>730935629The remake is just objectively better than the original so you might as well just play through them. The Sky games are pretty shit when it comes to gameplay so the remake helps a lot. The visuals are also way better with the remake ironically having way better art direction. The Crossbell games are still great though so you can just play the originals. No need to wait for a remake of them and then you can just play through them as is.
>>730935629Remake for sure. The only downside is you'll have to wait till September for the 2nd Chapter remake.
>>730935629Remake is fine, if you really don't like the artstyle of the original. It's arguably one of the only remakes I actually kind of recommend.
>>730933973>It feels like the game wants me to pick one of the big 3The game wants you to pick Alisa.When you’ve played all the games it’s pretty obvious they had her in mind as the main love interest.Which makes the entire romance system essentially pointless since it feels really tacked on.
>>730936765I wholeheartedly disagree. Even in CS1 Alisa was completely fucking irrelevant both on her own as a character and to the greater story.
Agatebros...
>>730936881I find it weird how hard the games are trying to push Agate and Tita as a romantic pairing and I don't like it.
>>730936881Worst ship. Agate is old enough to be her dad.
>>730934583I mean, the game looks like a PS2 game. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth runs at 80+ FPS at native 4k+ DLAA maxed out and looks 4 generations ahead.
>>730936765in CS1 perhaps, but after that she's an afterthought, Altina is the one that seems more, because she has been with Rean, the problem is that she's also push as her daughter, so it's kinda weirdall in all, Rean basically has a harem of disposable bitches at his beckon, and doesn't really choose any of them, even Sara in hajimari after meeting him for one fucking second she blushes and wants to be bred instantly, so basically he has no canon heroinebut Lloyd is the same, he has Ellie, Tio and Rixia ready to be fucked at any point, and also Van.the romance system is basically trying to mimic persona because it's popular, at least we still have Estelle and Joshua as a normal pairing... that of course when Rean isn't using Estelle as an onahole haha...
>>730937457Lloyd at least feels more set with Ellie as a main heroine. Falcom can't make up their fucking mind on who they want to be Rean's main heroine. Altina genuinely does seem to be the biggest winner up to this point.
>>730933973Canon choice is Rean being a stone cold loner lone wolf chudcel unless you unlock Crow's bond
>>730937663To me that only feels because Lloyd has 3 bitches to choose when Rean has like 13 fucking woman after him constantlyIn reality, when Ellie fucking basically confesses Lloyd just says "yeah man, I guess I also love everyone else" and fucking forgets about it, then Tio hugs him from behind as Rixia basically can't stop thinking how he changed her lifeIt's basically the same situation as mini Rean for me, although it's true that the Azure and Zero treated Ellie with far more respect than other heroines and there's also Kea to be the daughter stand in
>>730937847You know Lloyd is constantly a dense retard but I don't think that's actually really the case with Rean. He seems more than aware of everyone's feelings for it but doesn't reciprocate it cause he's an angsty faggot.
Attempted a full playthrough of this series two years ago but got heavily burnt out during Reverie even though I did enjoy most of the ride. I want to continue but man I dunno. I think having to play one million different characters in Reverie, the endless quartz menuing resulting in it and the general structure of that game just broke something for me. Maybe in another year or too, surely I'll bounce back, haha.
>>730937914I agree that Rean's character arc is that, but was it really necessary the 13 women lusting after him at every moment? the same point could have been made with 3 haha...
>>730937990Same. I binged this series through 2021 and 2022, waited and did 50 hours of Reverie and then just stopped. I'll get back to it, eventually. Haha.
>>730937990I'm playing Reverie right now and you are completely fucking right, the amount of juggling with the CP accesories and the quartz is mind boggling, especially if you need to optimize in certain difficultiesfuck the hollow SSS team fight, S-craft spam and Lloyd just spamming burning heart like I do
>>730937992I'd rather have every female character lusting for Rean than them being shipped off with every other male character. I hate shipper faggotry so if it's a choice between those 2 I'll take the former.
>>730937990I feel like Reverie should have just had locked loadouts for most characters. I basically didn't use 90% of the characters just cause I couldn't be fucked micromanaging.
>>730938118Hey man, my boy Jusis fucking Millium every night just feel right, sharing is caring
>>730937992I think his canon wives are the Class 7 crew (minus Millium) and Towa. Basically the CS1 gang.
white-haired girls with green eyes won
>>730938235Machias has his own sub character waifu, same with Gaius and even Elliot. So long as it's not all the main cast getting shipped off with each other I don't mind. That shit is cringe, forced garbage and is the quickest way to ruin a group dynamic in a JRPG. If you want to ship characters off so the male characters can have their love interest make it minor characters who don't take time away from the plot. Same with Randy in Crossbell.
>>730938427Wakka + Lulu was interesting tho
>>730938735It was also massively a background thing and didn't take away too much focus from the party and their goals. I dislike shipper shit when it's garbage like Tales of Arise or Xenoblade Chronicles 3 where it feel like characters just get entirely bogged down to their relationship with their respective ship. Wakka and Lulu were both great characters who had great interactions with the rest of the party and weren't just pushed heavily with each other.
>>730938823The best part of XB3 was the Noah Mia relationship unironically thoughbeit. If anything, it's the main plot that brings that game down.
>>730927878Of course the evil whiteoids would make the proud Indian warrior lady into a cracker. Smh these whites never learn, amirite Trails bros?
>bypass all menus and load the latest save from.cold bootWhy isn't this on more games.
seeing "unc" in the game unironically put me off the game bare in mind i played through everything in the series
Haha... time for me to stop holding back....Ladies and Gentlemen, this is Class Number VII.One. Two. Three and Four.Everybody in the Crimson Wings so let's goTo Micht's pawn shop in TristaThe girls need some gifts to raise some bonds Gotta spend that miraBond events like I had last weekGot low BP so gotta cheatI like Alisa,Laura,Sara,Altina,And as I continue you know they gettin sweetaSo what can I do? I really beg AidiosRean Schwarzer gotta get these hoesAll them girls mineHands off I ain't gonna share 'em I'm king of the haremA little bit Alisa in my lifeA little bit of Emma by my sideA little bit of Towa is all I needA little bit of Millium and her LammyA little bit of Sara in the trainA little bit of Laura in the cave A little smoke with Fie right by the graveA little Celine gives me her praiseWooooaaaah(instrumental)Class Number VIIRun up and downWe fly all aroundBuy gifts in this townPlay cards for a roundWe have the same score? That means we draw againI'm gonna use a bolt cardLooks like I winKiss Claire onceDate Duvie twiceCan't romance them so I guess I'll dieA little bit of Juna for our ReanA little bit of Musse on the beachA little bit of Elise for step broA little bit of Alfin in AlstorA little Altina for my heartA little bit of Sharon don't even startA little bit of Vita I'm such a fanHaha... that's our Rean! Oh what a man!(instrumental break)Class Number VII!
>>730939678Towabros...She's a slut...
>>730935629no wrong answeroriginal and remake are both surprisingly good and have held up welljust pick the one who's artstyle you prefer
Rean... no...
>>730923309I'm enjoying it, yes.
>>730940169This Cold Steel musical is the best thing to come out of this entire series.
>>730940497how far in are you?i just cleared the first chapter and I'm still having fun
I play for Agnes, and only for Agnes.
>>730923309Trails of Subhumans
>>730926878based>>730927295the kind that will never build a family
>>730941798Kys tendie jeet
>>730927878>Shill threadWhy are FEtroons and atlustroon so mad at trails threads?
>>730938823You just hate romance. The relationships of the main party were the least of Xenoblade 3s problems. Hell I'd say it was actually one of the better parts. The story falling apart past Homecoming and the lack of actual towns aide from 1 were the most glaring issues.Trails in the Sky is leagues above Cold Steel and already had Tita/Agate and Schera/Olivier and Kevin/Ries.
"...I haven't seen strippers in ages, man”- Kevin "Devout priest with a strip club fetish" Graham
>>730923309just started it. it seems to be an even slower start than usual (and they are all slow)
>>730923309Im done with Trails seriesThey make Renne and Fie a tittymonsterThey make Altina TallflatNew brown NotFie 13yo loli is boring. Also too tall
>>730942236>>730942294God bless Japan (unless that's dlc)
>>730942248Haha... Character assassination at it's finest!
>>730942468>They make Renne and Fie a tittymonsterObjective improvement
>>730942584There are already too many tittymonsters on Trails. Loli should stay Loli forever. Like Tio and Towa for example. But shes not relevant anymore
>>730923309How do i get into this franchiseGenuine question
>>730942680Play the first game lol
>>730942680Trails Sky 1st Remake and wait for the 2nd Remake or go straight to SC.
>>730942510>All three are in different dlc costume packs>Each pack costs 30 dollarsHaha...
>>730940169
>>730939570The xseed localization of the first game had me wondering how new this game was cause of how good it was. Sexist, homophobic, yet 'respectable' and thorough enough.People playing past the first 3 are crazy. Same engine as the remake and still this looks soulless
quick, someone give me the quick reandown
>lose access to an ultimate weapon if you don't collect all the permanently missable books from speaking to random npcs WTF is Falcom smoking?
I refuse to believe the ending resets to Daybreak 1 like I know this is Falcom but this is just too much. Why can't they improve their 20 years of storytelling ffs.
>>730943123maybe it's an excuse to make daybreak 1 good this time
>>730943123>Falcom>ImprovingAre you dumb?
>>730942882>Same engine as the remake and still this looks soullesslmao remake is so soulless that people prefer to keep using original for reactions
>>730942339Slow is fast, and fast is good.
>>730923309Still yet to play 3rd, Crossbell, and anything starting from Hajimari, but I have seen the recent dubbed trailer for Kai and the fight choreography actually being animated made me unreasonably excited, I'm so proud of Falcom man
>>730943847Me buying Cold Steel on the Vita led to this. You're welcome.
>>730943927I appreciate your contribution, anon. Hope I can get back into those games soon, too, I miss caring about something so much I'd play it as much as I can
I don't think I would've ever played any Trails game if XSNEED hadn't translated Oath in PEAKghana and Origins. CHADol carried Falcom.
I'm still mad about the bullshit of "your pronouns" in daybreak. It's a clear sign of what's to come and I want to burn alive the people that defend it with your usual culture war arguments
>>730927387>why did people play the good games after the ones that are a massive sloggee i wonder
>>730944565Cold Steel is the best Trails arc
>>730944565cs4 was admittedly way too longbut the ending made it all worth it, in my eyesit's also part of why i don't want to continue, the story feels complete already
>>730944632sky > crossbell > calvard > cold steel
>>730944689there's no way those aren't mods
>>730944742they are, the calvard games have great stuff on loverslab
>>730944681>but the ending made it all worth it
>>730944772damnhow are the games themselves though, i've heard mixed opinions
>>730944681Reverie and Daybreak 1 are so much better than CS3 and CS4 it's not even funny, just go play them
>>730944876fuck off, it was a good sappy ending, following a reasonably emotional conclusion to the entire mess of what was CS4's storyI still liked the bad end more though
>>730944772Too bad the NISA version is complicated to mod because of the packing unpacking p3a files. I still don't know how to individually character swap other than a 3dmigoto pre made drag and drop mod pack.
>>730923309I can’t beat cold steel 3, I keep trying and keep quitting. I’ll never finish it.
>>730944934Although a help would be appreciated.
>>730944934is it? i had no problems modding the NISA versions of DB1/DB2 but i only played the CLE version of Kai so far (which if my memory serves me, modding NISA DB1/DB2 was even easier and had more options? i could be wrong though)
>>730942127>you hate romanceYes. Sky's cast is literally my least favourite cause they sucked to me as a group. Fine as individuals but I didn't enjoy their interactions with each other.
i played and 100% trails in the sky 1st remake, it was mid but ill still buy 2nd remake and play that and ill just keep waiting until all the games are remade
>>730926586>i get all my opinions from /fg/!lmao, imagining listening to the same 20 schizos doompost day in and day out and taking them seriously
>>730944887just grab the demo for 1st Chapter remake. it's like 7 or 8 hours long and has the same gameplay as the latest 3 games in the series
>>730923309I've long been caught up on the series, and I'm enjoying the fuck out of Horizon so far. Also, did Agnes's tiddies get even bigger?
I was surprised that it already comes with 4.5 dlss built in. we genuinely don't deserve durante making these ports
>>730945384I too have noticed that...
>>730945020Replacing and modify shaders.ini, finding the correct character ID, hair and breast physics is static/fucked up so it's not a simple only character swap. I think for you it's easy because I assume you only do costume mods but what I'm struggling is model swapping like replacing stripper NPC model into Agnes in DOAX3 costume mod. I know there's plenty of resources and instructions in the loverslab but damn the first post of DB1 and DB2 still have some outdated stuffs and some of them still led you to the CLE version modding which makes it confusing.Sorry for the rant. I wish the modders can simplify more but I appreciate what they've done so far. Looking forward for the Horizon NISA modding page.
>>730945384>>730945384Based nooticers
>>730938427I think having every main girl be in love with the MC is just as cringe and forced, and it's incel shit too.Alisa, Emma and Altina should have been Rean's options IMO.Alisa because having played CS1-4 no one in the main story gets pushed as much as her, Rean flirts with her a lot post CS2, in 4 she had the distinction of her romance being less Rean courting her but winning her back (bullshit reason for a break up, I think it was muh war or something). No other pairing has people commenting on them or is addressed outside optional events like them.Emma also makes sense because she was supposed to help Rean through his trials to become the Ashen Awakener like Vita helped Crow, and if they really wanted to double down Celine's role in CS2 would be Emma's, which would also make more sense. Their love story is also cute enough, I suppose and Rean does flirt with her post CS2, but not to the degree he does with Alisa.Altina would also be a good choice simply because by now she is the girl that has shared the most screentime with Rean. Sadly, she is arguably the character whose love for Rean is taken the least seriously as their student-teacher relationship doesn't ever really advance. Still, she was willing to die to protect Rean. I like Altina, but I think her change from CS2 to 3 to being totally Reanbrained is bad writing, but she IS very cute and extremely popular.
>>730946273Alisa was one of the worst parts of cold steel as a whole, mostly because of how there's barely any character outside of her being the almost-primary love interest.
I only ever player zero and azure with the geofront patch, wanted to replay them legit this time but going back to pre Daybreak gameplay hurts me.
>>730924169why the fuck would you skip azure. cold steel 3 and 4 must have seemed like a schizo shitfest without knowing what happened in azure.
>>730946443CS4, sureCS3 was fine without crossbell games, the game explains enough to get the gist of it
I've always felt like Kiseki is the purest form of a JRPG. For good and ill, it's the absolute pinnacle.
>>730946716that would be e33.
>>730944772>>730944689Haha...
>>730946097ah sorry anon I thought you just meant as far as installing costume mods not modding it yourself
>>730946443it wasn't that bad. CS3 was still designed for people who were new to crossbell. Playing the games just gives the most minor details some extra meaning since you'll recognize all those npcs
>>730946273>and it's incel shit too.I can't take anyone seriously that uses the word incel unironically. I also feel that the criticizm that all the female characters get reduced to just liking Rean is entirely untrue. Like Laura and Fie have more of their character moments focused on each other than they do Rean.
>>730947378yeah I stopped reading that reddit drivel as soon as I saw the word incel. if every single person who has ever used that word even a single time dropped dead, society would begin to heal.
>>730947378You can replace that with "self-insert loser" shit then.And Fie does, Laura is just a bad character though and wholly uninteresting.
>>730947378>>730947450incels
>>730947378>LauraLiterally only in the first game nobody even remembers it anymore these daysShe's tied to Rean>See: Rape cave
>>730947552Self reporting that you have a bias against that kind of stuff just tells me that your criticism is poisoned by that bias and isn't entirely honest and if someone isn't entirely honest then they might as well be entirely dishonest. You can't admit that you're biased and still pretend to have genuine impartial criticism.>>730947630Laura and Fie's rivalry is brought up in every single Cold Steel game and in Reverie.>See: Rape caveThe optional bond event is about her relationship with Rean, ok?
>>730923309The fact they forgot about Kevin midway through the series in Kuro and had to patch him back in should just prove to you the game is clearly written out of kondo's ass and the grand finale of the series overall is just going to disappoint everyone
Kys shills
>>730948545sup moshe
>>730948059Kevin gets brought up in quite a lot of games after 3rd though.
>>730947760how is my "bias" any worse than yours? this comes across as a high schooler thinking every thought he has ever had is his and his alone. everyone has is biased. we are human, not machines
>>730948059Kevin is literally a playable character in Horizon anon
I lost my save file for being partway through Trails in the Sky 2 and so I lost my motivation to continue the series.That said, I'm really fucking curious how the game possibly goes from the tech in the first Sky game to what seems to be vtuber holograms.
>>730948767The issue is if you're biased then it means you went into the game with the opinion you hold and any argument you make after the fact is merely a justification for the opinion you already had and as such not even something you genuinely believe. You just think it sounds right and it supports the argument you want to make. I may have biases but my biases don't make me like harem self insert shit by default in the same way yours makes you dislike it. Whether I like or dislike it depends entirely on the execution. You just hate it by default and work backwards with mental gymnastics to justify it. If you're the kind of person who says shit like incel or self insert loser shit completely unironically then literally nothing the game could have done differently would have made you like it so basically whatever you say is meaningless since execution clearly isn't important to you since you hate it by default so your arguments about how it's handled are fake.That is the difference between my bias and your bias.
>>730948924The tech disparity is based on vibes and what's available IRL during development
>>730948661>>730948881>
>>730949235Haha...
>>730949235Seriously why didn't they add him here? Like they even specifically mention him so why was he left out?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cJmoYCZe0WIk i n o
>>730949312The art was probably made before the dialogue writing as kondo realized he needed to write Kevin back in the series
>>730949583AND THE CROWD GOES MILD
I just finished Daybreak II and while I'm okay with the overall plot of the game, there's just way too many filler fights and formulaic stories. I'm also frustrated because Van and Agnes's storylines weren't explored further and Elaine and Shizuna didn't live up to the hype when they were teased in Reverie. It's honestly disappointing, but the final fight was KINO. The second to the last fight was way harder though. And for a modern Kiseki game, I finished it under 80 hours, which is surprising.I'm going to play Horizon tomorrow.
>>730949991Daybreak 2 is like CS4 and a game that I think gets more hate than it deserves. It has issues but it's still a lot of fun.
>>730949583So apparently this Singa guy is just incredibly cheap? Is this the same reason Motoi Sakuraba still gets work?Honestly his tracks in 3 were still pretty decent but man, why would Falcom of all people cheap out on their music...
>>730950298The budget goes to the voice actors you gotta remember the sales on these games are abysmal they operate on peanut budgets
>>730948924>the final fight was KINOyea I liked it too, the OP worked well for the finale.I would be mad if I played 2 without knowing Kai was on the way, but with reduced expectations on how it moves the plot I still had fun with it
>>730948924Storywise, it's a mess and the only explanation available right now is just that orbal energy accelerates innovations and technology at a ridiculous pace. Game development wise, it's based on what's trending IRL.
>>730923309Yeah it's GOTY
>>730948924The tech disparity literally never gets explained.
>>730937083? He's 10 years older max, probably closer to 8.
>>730951135Agate is 24 in FC and Tita is 12. He's literally double her age.
>>730949052Well you'd be wrong because I think Van's harem is still incel/self insert loser shit slightly better executed than Cold Steel's because the girls always interact with Van from the "I can heal" him angle. Well, all but Shizuna. And I don't mind Lloyd's harem bullshit as much because I think the "ugh, I am a worthless piece of shit" thing Rean and Van got going on clashes with them having a harem of 10/10 women. Hard to take them seriously. With Lloyd it's just funny he is dense as fuck. If anything, this little interaction exposed how many biases you have anon. Besides it's not like I hate Cold Steel. I just think the romance is poorly done. I inherently disagree that pairing off characters is forced, or more forced than having them all gravitate towards the MC. You can actually write a good romance if you get rid of pick your waifu bullshit, or because of our biases, we will see one or two options as clearly superior, and one option that just doesn't make sense to us.
>>730923309>Thought the steam trading card drop was Quatre>It was actually CrowI hate this artist so much dude.
>>730951213>>730937083>>730936916
>>730949235Kevin was on a secret mission when they took this photo
>>730948924Shards nigga, how do they work?
>>730951213>12 years older is old enough to be someone's dadRight, right.
>>730941985Subhumanoid
>>730949312Kondo literally forgot, they updated the CG to include him later
>>730951234So you still dislike all of them, just to lesser extents. You just agreed with me.
How to obtain the rating?
>>730951326It's the same artist as Crossbell right? Dunno what happened to their art but the faces are so weird now
To be fair, if men like Rean and Lloyd existed IRL I don't think it's implausible for them to have this many female admirers, they're basically handsome celebrities.I just wish it was written better
>>730947104Is that unmodded?
>>730952370Definitely a pretty major case of sameface. Everyone just kinda looks the same, and they same they all look doesn't even look that good.
>play cold sneed 1>really enjoy it even though everyone says it's shit>want to wait for crossbell games to be translated before going on to 2>miss when it finally happens because busy with other games>now wondering if I can wait for them to remake lloyd's games in 3d
>>730951973Reread what I said. I don't dislike Lloyd's. And the execution of Van's makes me like it more than Rean's. Things you assumed I would not be able to appreciate. I think you are getting to caught up in labels. Despite me enjoying Lloyd's harem, it is still incel/self insert bullshit. I can live with knowing that, sounds like you can't. Ironically enough because of the very thing you accused me of: being biased. Do you now see how you exposed yourself and your many biased in what was really an exchange of ideas. Like you can tell me you don't see harem shit as incel/self insert bullshit. That's fine. My core disagreement is thinking pairing off characters is worse than gravitating them all to the MC. Especially in the case of someone like Laura, a terrible character with the depth of a puddle whose best and cutest moments are the result of the complete optional and missable bond events with Rean.
>>730951451The same way overdrive, combo crafts and brave orders work.
>>730951538Nigga if you're lusting after a 12yo as a 24yo you need to be in jail. Agate and Tita is a shit ship and an unfortunate side effect of the game being Japanese.
>>730923309>who managed to beat all the gamesThis is such a meme by now. You really don't need unless you want to pick up on every minute reference. These new games all include summaries of previous ones.
>>730952706No one said they had to have sex the second they met. Sheesh dude, go outside.
>>730952735Sure, but reading about "the Liberl Incident" to actually experiencing it is a night and day difference, and even that analogy doesn't do it justice.
>>730951326That's just Van Blanco.
>>730952934This.
>>730952735No it's not a meme, you're getting an inferior experience.
>>730953445As someone who skipped Crossbell and is playing CS, they sound like a bunch of dumbasses lol. Literal tiny citystate that's trying to posture for independence when Erebonia or Calvard could wipe them off the planet on a whim. I wonder how differently I would think if I played it.
>>730953879You'd see firsthand why their bid for independence was possible.
Fuck right off.
>>730954908People actually buy the skins?
>>730954908There's a zip with all the dlc on rin and the exe doesn't even have drm so you don't even need to use creamapi.
>>730952448I think it is a mod
>>730943123it doesn't? it resets the whole series
Does the new Ys game have the production value of 1st Chapter or is it still PS2 Falcom tier? I was genuinely shocked at how good 1st looks.
>>730955753No there isn't a Falcom game that looks as good as the Sky remake does right now. However it surely bodes well for the future of their games. Unfortunately, Ys X was made with the fucking Switch in mind, so it actually ends up looking worse than Ys IX.
>>730955753Ys X feels like a prototype for the art direction of Sky 1st. they had nowhere near the same resources
>>730955935>>730956047Hmm, pity. Looking forward to the other remakes then. Hopefully the next Ys also gets that level of quality.
>>730952735You're a tourist, you're meant to literally play all the games that's the whole point of playing each game for 100+ hours if you're a speed reader or speed runner and beating these games in 40 hours or less you're a tourist
No stake series Who else even dies in this series besides Otto san
*falls in love with you*your response?
>>730956420As far as characters we as the player got to experience being alive and not characters who were already dead in the story before we started, Loewe, Weissmann, Osborne, Dingo, and Dantes. Maybe Arianrhod if you want to count her.
>>730956254Based
>>730923309I'm catching up. I held off on Daybreak until about a week ago because I wanted to wait until the arc had around 3 games due to the cliffhanger-happy nature of the series. Currently in chapter 4 (the city where Verne is located) and I'm hoping the battle system improves over the course of the next two games. I do like the orbment system in this game, though. It reminds me of the one in Sky. Do they iterate on it any further in 2 and Horizons?
>>730956612I really think they should have just committed to the Almata guys dying too. The fact that you can decide their fate is lame, especially since it's not like that's gonna matter, since having death as an option means they're just gonna write them out of the story anyway.
How many more games does kondo have planned 1 or 2?
>>730956903For Calvard? Probably one, though I'm sure he could easily stretch it to two. For the rest of the series? Who knows.
>>730956903>Two more sept terrions>Horizon's time reset ending>Eastern Zemuria hasn't fully revealed>Kondo keeps lying>Other unresolved plot pointsCan't say much but Calvard arc is almost done though.
>>730957079Also the other 3 S rank bracers.
>>730956662Both games incrementally some stuff2>fixes the delay system UI to a dual timeline layout so its more clear whose turn is next, can s-break steal turn modifiers again>adds ex-chain attacks on broken enemies that only cost one s-boost>s-craft cooldowns, can't s-craft again until existing s-boost wears off>quick arts in field combat so you can cast spells in between combosKai>S-boosting twice gives you an immediate free turn after>Brave orders from CS3 are back, spend s-gauge for instant party buffs>enemies can also do brave orders, but you can spend extra gauge to override their buffs if you want>ex-chains from 2 are streamlined to happen faster>field combat has bullet time, awakenings, and dodging attacks lets you get a party assist
>>730941868I've got a family and enjoy the games. My son liked watching me play through CS because robots, and he loves Laura simply due to the fact that she's got a big sword. My daughter thinks the girls are cute and was really invested during my playthrough of the Crossbell duology. My wife has had the battle dialogue and idle voice lines burned into her mind every since CS. She'll be playing something else or we'll be playing something together, and she'll chime in with "it's my turn now," since you hear that line so frequently whenever high speed mode is active.
>>730956903I would say at least 4. Kai 2 should wrap up Calvard which then moves us to the final arc.We won't ever go to Jurai, Remiferia, North Ambria, the Free Cities, I doubt the far east even. My guess is we're going to Arteria.
>>730955131What exactly is rin? Sorry, I'm a retard.
>>730923309Yes, I'm loving it so far. Exactly what I wanted.
Why does reddit post in falcom threads here.Go back.
>>730957467North Ambria already got covered in that ani...me... and that ga...chaaa...Fuck me. Both of them sucks ass.
>>730957506A websitecee ess dot rin dot ru
>>730957374Nice. Sounds like some pretty solid additions. Orders were one of my favorite things from CS3, so it's cool to see Hahaman brought those along with him. Overall, I'm enjoying Daybreak, even if some of the dialogue is cringy as fuck at times. Pretty much anything dealing with the immigration subplot (couldn't have left it as racists, just HAD to list it as White Supremacists) makes me roll my eyes, and Van suddenly bringing up pronouns when you meet Quatre was jarring since it's so out of the blue.
I think it's kinda based that Emma has noticeably thicker thighs than the rest of Class VII
>>730958778proofs?
>>730939805THEY MADE HER A SLUTTHEY MADE HERoh shit.
>>730957436lol not reading all that retard.
>>730957436You play jrpgs where people can see you?
>>730959037Was trying the bike ride and dance with multiple characters. Emma unironically is thicc. She's a few cakes away from being architectpilled.
>>730927878Is there a mod to make her have fair skin? I can't be motived to party with uglies.
>>730955935>No there isn't a Falcom game that looks as good as the Sky remake does right now.Are there really people who think this? The cel shading in the models looks good and it's a colourful game, but apart from that, there's no way it looks better than the latest games.
>>730959765Sky remake looks better than both Ys X and Horizon, I dunno what to tell you.
>>730959826That Ys X, of course, that game is cheap as fuck, but Kai has better visual quality than the remake
>>730923309I am technically caught up but I don't have maxed LGC so I am speedrunning my NG+ run so I can get a perfect clear save file for complete crossover bonuses.
>>730957436happy for you desunow that I think about it the Trails games are probably pretty child friendly... Well 90% of them
>>730960086The Calvard cast is the sexiest and I will DIE on that hill.
>>730961036The series hasn't produced a girl yet that can top Rixia Mao.
>>730961139wrong
>>730961310Why are you posting Judith? She's pretty good but I don't see how she is relevant to my post.
>you can get all the swimsuits in grim gardenbased
>>730961416she is hotter than rixiajudith is female perfection
>>730961036Isn't that obvious? Calvard's cast has so many 10/10 bitches that I'm not surprised there are so many people seething at Van
>>730960086it's still disappointing that they recycled swimsuit designs for half of them
>>730957467Not a huge loss. Crow already gets wanked enough and the last thing we need to do now is go visit juraiRemiferia would've been cool but maybe its not too different from liberl
When did trails start putting out hot men? I was used to everyone just being a twink, even the “muscular” guys like Agate. My god imagine the body hair on Bergam
>>730962608Based purely off physical proportions that's objectively incorrect. Her JP voice is better than Rixia's I will admit but she loses points for her personality.
>>730957467>Remiferia, North Ambria, Free Cities and Far East Never Ever™I hate Falcom.
>>730962948>she loses points for her personalitythe gayest man aliveshe is dumb and hot. she is perfect
>>730962929I wonder how many women actually like these games. The men don't really get any fanservicey outfit DLCs, but the games do have a lot of pretty boys...
>>730963290surprisingly not as many fujos as you'd see from something like the Tales franchise.I think the character counts scare them off. Only real men can keep up with 20 years of interactive japanese soap opera
>>730963290I just thought women had a different definition of fan service. Like straight guys and lesbians wanna see girls in skimpy outfits but I dunno if gay guys and straight women wanna see men in skimpy outfits.
>>730963410>>7309635273, maybe 4 confirmed women browse the falcom general
>>730963043>dumb and hotIf that's all you want, Agnes is right there.
>>730963290Forget DLC, even the modding scene for male outfits is very scarce. I noticed that when I was playing Kuro 2. You could count the amount of total options (modded or native) for characters like Leon or Zin on one hand... hell you could probably count the official options for Leon AND Zin together on one hand.
>>730963527Not really, they'd probably get more out of the men wearing well-fitted suits. But from what I've seen there's nearly no DLC outfits for the dudes
>>730963527I’m 100% a faggot and I play trails mainly for the story and gameplay.That being said of the top of my head I wouldn’t mind seeing Bergam shirtless, dunno who else though, maybe GeorgKnowing how fujos are they definitely like the typical male characters the series offer. Rean and his bf basically follow their favorite archetype to a T.
>>730962948>she loses points for her personality.I think Judith's way more fun to have around than Rixia. I always felt like Rixia was the most boring character in the entire Crossbell cast.
>>730963945>GeorglmaoI would genuinely love to know why. I mean, with some willpower I can kinda see it, but still
wait a fucking minute, is quickblader from shadowverse a joshua reference?
>>730963945Yeah I knew you were >>730962929and that you were a fag lmao
>>730961036Rean's harem mogs. Erebonian women > Kekvard whores
crossbell had the best womenmy dick belongs to celice
>>730964542erebonian nobles are objectively all whores, thoughand no, van's harem is full of 10/10s
For female charactersCS > DB > CB > Sky
>not wanting to plant your dick in Scherazard and Aina in a 3PAnyone who rates Sky low is a homo.
>>730964724Anyone who doesn't rate Sky the lowest is a homo.
>>730964773It's not about the number but the quality. That is why the further into the story we get the lower the quality of the series gets. Of course this applies to the women as well. Estelle by herself is worth more than any whore in Erebonia or Calvard.
>>730964862Quantity and quality it's the lowest. Sky being dead last is the easiest decision in the world.>Of course this applies to the women as well. Estelle by herself is worth more than any whore in Erebonia or Calvard.You are a woman
since we're already talking about skyi wish falcom had the balls to create canon couples instead of this implied main heroine garbagejust come out and say yeah you can pick any girl for the romance event but lloyd/rean actually picks elie/alisa in the end no matter who you chose
>>730964724Sky girls are objectively mid. Scherazard is quite literally the only good one and she's not even a native.
>>730965020No. Game would've been shit if you were forced to pick Alisa.
>>730965404nah Alisa hate is overblown
>>730965404sounds like an admission that cold steel is shit if choose your waifu is the only thing making it good
>>730964724Estelle happens to fit my taste just right but the rest are sort of whatever. The remake made me like Josette more I guess, her new Jap voice is sex.
>>730963945>GeorgWeissmann right? Not George Nome?
>>730965579I'll be straight with you, that remake animation of that craft Josette uses where she shoots you and then unloads the shotgun shell while looking smug makes my dick rock hard.
>>730964101Barafags, depending on who you talk to, have a preference for hairier guys and muscular guys and also in some cases fat guys tho usually musclegut.
>>730964215This dude looks like if you mixed the design philosophy of Joshua from this series and Rex from Xenoblade.
>>730965675Nome
>>730964724True.https://files.catbox.moe/77guuj.mp4
>>730965020>>730965493>>730965518Kill yourself Alisa cuck.
>>730965821I guess that makes sense. Feels like it's mostly women into the former.
>alisaschizo is also on /v/kek
i dont know who your schizo is and i dont caredont use your boogeymen to derail my point that i just dont like haremshit in trails
>>730965964Tbf she's worst girl from Cold Steel not counting Millium
>>730966078Don't shit talk Jusis's wife like that.
>>730966069>i just dont like haremshitSeries is made for men. Go back Skykek femoid.
>>730966078not when laura and angelica exist
>>730966168>series is made for men>no crossdressing outfits for quatre or elliot
>>730966069Skycucks are like abused housewives. 10+ games of harem hijinks and you say it'll change eventually and yet Kiseki keeps beating you like the worthless whore you are.
>>730966168>>730966453>i-i-it's still a harem series!!!>Calvard is harem free>the MC even turns down the girl who confesses to him
>>730966556>Calvard is harem freeHhahahhahahahahHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAAA
>>Calvard is harem freeWhat did she mean by this?
>>730966591show me the harem then>completely ignore the last partharemc*cks in complete shambles
>>730966556You haven't played Daybreak
>>730966556>Turns her down>She goes fucking nuclear as a resultI don't think anyone in the entire Erebonia arc even loves Rean this much.
Sex with Risette.
>>730966649I can't wait to see how they undo it in the next game. I actually hope that the next game just jumps to the newest region, pretending to be a new arc when it's actually Calvard 4 in disguise.
>>730966638Literally every new female party member including Rinne cause fuck it why not.>completely ignore the last partCause it's retarded and means nothing. Let me ask you this, does she give up after being rejected? No? Then it doesn't matter.
>>730966763>female character exists>it's definitely a harem guys i swear!!!!this is actually patheticat least the girls in cs visibly treated rean like a harem protag
I would rather have a well-written romance than pick a waifu harem shit. Otaku are too mentally weak nowadays if they can't fap to characters not paired with their self insert. I didn't need Tidus x Lulu to be canon to fap to her as a kid.
>>730966845Play Daybreak 2 you dumb tourist.
>>730966882already didnothing in it treated van the way the class 7 girls treat reaneven the connection events were tame compared to the interactions in CS though i preferred the non ASO connection scenes like with the dominions and shizuna
What is this series even about? It has like 20 games but it keeps the same protag?
>>730966856FINALLY someone gets itthis is why sky is perfection/liberl is HOMEdoesnt even have to be well written just coherentso long as it is good enough to stir emotions in methats all i want
>>730966856>>730967156Stop samefagging Skytranny
>>730923309This is the best English dub trails has ever had.
I usually like when a game lets you pick a girl and stuff but it just feels out of place and pointless in a series with so much continuity
>>730967105No, the series operates in arcs and each arc has its own protagonist, but all of the events in each arc take place across the same world. I guess maybe think of it like Jojo's Bizarre Adventure or something. Long running world across a span of time but they swap protagonists and casts along the way, but sometimes the old protagonists and casts show up too.
This mech fight against Crow is pure dogshit
is like the guy seething about sky a false flag i don't get it
>>730967470It's just autism, don't mind him.
>>730967389Oh okay thanks for the short explanation
>>730967565NTA but to add a bit to that anons explanation all the games are close enough in time from when they take place in the world that the time that has passed in universe between the 1st game and the most recent one like 15 games later is only 8 years.
>>730967672Yeah that's a fair point. JJBA takes place across decades but the time span is way shorter in this series.
>>730967105Very basic overview: all games take place in a continent called Zemuria. Each arc follows a different protagonist in several countries.Sky has a female, protagonist Estelle for 2 games, and a male protagonist, Kevin, for one game. Happens in the Kingdom of Liberl.Crossbell is a duology that takes place in a city-state of the same name. Lloyd is the protagonist.Cold Steel is a 5 game saga that takes place in Erebonia and the lead is a guy called Rean.Latest arc takes place in a country called Calvard and the lead is a dude called Van. It's about many things, but each arc kinda shifts its vibe and explores its characters under different lenses. Without spoiling too much, in the very first game we learn that there once existed an ancient civilization with super advanced tech and it is implied they were closer to the goddess, Aidios. However an event called The Fall ended this sort of garden of eden state of humanity and plunged it into the dark ages. At the start of the series it has been nearly 1.2k years since humanity made it out the Dark Ages and a power source called orbal energy was discovered and harnessed, and people can basically use what is akin to magic with things called orbments. Orbal energy also produces light, allows ships to fly, etc.Every game basically uncovers secrets of the particular region you explore and the characters you meet there and it all takes place chronologically. Estelle, MC1, appears in Trails from Zero, the second arc whose MC is Lloyd, to tie up some loose ends her arc left unfinished, as an example.
>>730967261Keep crying, faggot.
>inspect element
>>730968024Seethe more faggot. Harem shit is here to stay. Find another shoujo to play.
>keeps crying, as he was commanded to do sogood monkey
keeps seething, as he was commanded togood monkey you know that no u shit doesn't work you're rolling around in the shit too. If you want to argue I'm crying it means you are too. Self awareness lacking dumb fuck.
Yeah I'm thinking haremgods won
>>730968427Well it's 10+ games vs 3 so not really a contest.
you ARE crying because 1) you confused 2 different people as the same person and2) an opinion different from yours got you this mad
When do we get a reverse harem game
>>730968774lmao mad
>>730968501>10+only 6 of those are full on haremhajimari is a joke game kuro im still not convinced is a harem arc because i havent personally seen any harem content in it but maybe kai will be the game to show me that
>>730968820indeed, you are mad because unlike me you can't even put into words why you want harem shit or disprove what i saidI don't need schera to be estelle or joshua's concubine to fap to heri don't need cecile to be in lloyd's harem to fap to hersame with aurelia, marielle, nadia, etcpersonally id rather these games not have romance at all, but if i have to choose, i'd rather have something with more meat on the bone
>>730969168>you are mad and I will explain why in this 9 page thesisThis is definitely the attitude of someone who isn't upset.>why you like harem shitCause I like picking my own heroine rather than having one forced
>>730969306but you can't pick everyone. your options are still limited>compares a paragraph to a thesissomeone that is mad would say this lol, perhaps tiktok is more your speed bro
>Still no cheat table to max out connection points or at least give you the total needed to see all eventsLame.
>>730969405>you can't have everyone so might as well just have 1Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life.>seethesKWAB
>>730952706Hey buddy I think you got the wrong door. Reddit's two blocks down
>>730923309yeah it's fun af
>Have to choose between hanging out with Bergard and talking about motorcycles or hanging out with Yume so we can buy a present for Agnes>Hang out with Bergard
>>730970643
>>730970643Agnes is a fag anyway
>>730969450i am not really surprised a haremtard is unaware of the illusion of choice, especially when regardless of who you chose for say rean, it doesn't matter in horizon and it barely mattered in the other gamesthe choice you made is inconclusive and we know he won't have a harem of 10 bitches. You say Van is the same but it will either be another inconclusive love story or another one that is written well like estelle x joshua, olivier x scheraI guess i would be peeved if my favorite girl got nothing, but again, these games are long and i'd rather get a decent love story than haremslopideally, to make is both happy, falcom would make little side games that are VNs where you can pick a waifu, marry her, have kids with her, etc, but they're too small a company to milk otaku like that
>>730970643>didn't hang out with everyone's princess, YumeYou are the worst.
>>730944681Ah yes I love the big confrontation against the big ball of evil that was responsible for all the evil in the country and then all the friends who were dead get revived and everyone throws a big party! That sure made the slog worth it!Cold Steel 4 fans HAVE to be mentally insane (or 5 years old) to enjoy this shit.
>>730970881Who cares? You seem to more than me, the supposed haremtard. I like the bond scenes and I go into the next game I don't give a shit if it doesn't carry over I'm not here for the romance. I dislike Estelle and Joshua and Olivier and Schera. You say they're well written but I'd heavily disagree. They're boring trope filled slop that also aren't optional and so constantly bog down the main story with shit I don't care about.
>>730970283fucking whore
>>730971050I wonder who could be behind this post.
>>730971043sounds like very little in life gives you joywhy even play the game if you allegedly dont care about it
>>730971014Oh wait I forgot to mention how the major villain that had been built up over the last 7 games gets completely wasted as just a "secretly a good guy all along and everything bad he did was to fight a greater evil". Seriously, hang all CSfags.>>730970283Crazy how she became the hottest girl in the series just from her looks and attitude in this one game
>>730971043>Joshua and Estelle>badly writtenthen there is no point in continuing this conversation. my favorite girl Estelle got her romance and it made Sky my favorite game arc so i'd rather we get more stories like that if romance has to happen, but oh well. sorry my opinion offended you so much
>>730970283>>730971274No, fuck this. God I fucking hate it when masked characters I like take off the mask. Most recently they did it with Alphen/Iron Mask in Arise and now they've done it again with Kai. I fucking hate Falcom. TWO NUKES WEREN'T ENOUGH TO TEACH JAPAN A FUCKING LESSON.
Eddy is so lucky...
>>730971014Casual reminder that Kai 2 will have us undo all the bad things and deaths that happened throughout the entirety of the Calvard arc so that Agnes can unlock the GOLDEN ENDING.
>>730971367>anon learns that people can disagree with each other and it isn't worth having a mental breakdown overYou finally learned an important life lesson today. You started by seething about people liking harems. I liek the Cold Steel arc, it's my favourite arc, Sky is my least favourite. I think it has the worst setting, the worst characters, the worst gameplay and the worst visuals. I like the Cold Steel arc cause I love the over the top chuuniness, the giant robot battles, the edgy demon powers, the military school setting, Erebonia in general, the gameplay is the best, the music is the best, I like how slow paced it is really letting you enjoy the setting and the characters. I had the most fun playing them. Me and you disagree, that's fine. This fact upsets you cause you seethe 24/7 about the series becoming harem focused and not like it was originally. You liking Sky does not upset me cause it has no reason to upset me. Like what you like, play what you like, enjoy what you like. Just stop acting like a whiny faggot when people like things you don't or dislike things you do like. Kai is fun as FUCK right now so I'm going to go back to enjoying my nigga Van's game.
>Cold Steel is my favorite>Sky is my least favoriteOpinion discarded.There needs to be an IQ test you need to pass to be allowed on 4chan, can't believe I have to share this site with literal mouthbreathers.
>>730971630thats fine and all, but you were the one with the meltdown not mehave a good night anon
honestly the harem content in kiseki games is kind of lackluster and pointless since it'll never go anywhereit's the same thing as manga where the author just creates these retarded pseudo-harems even when you know there's one main heroineso in the end I do prefer if they'd just pick an official pairing, though considering how low quality the writing has gotten that'd probably end badly
this jobless clown is gonna do it every thread
>>730971720>instant seethe cause someone has a different opinion from his own.Least insecure Cold Steel hater>>730971827How do we recover from this Kiseki bros?
>>730971626It won't. Agnes and Emilia will be saved but that's it, the nuke is staying.Even beyond that, the Chest is a more interesting antagonistic force due to lore implications than the big ball of dumb evil Ishmelga.
>>730971748yeah that was my pointi don't really agree the writing has gotten bad per se, so much as that the formula they don't stay from is just obsoletelike why do we need Kevin and Rean doing 4SPGs. Instead of the route shit I would have liked them to find a way to say, start with Rean's route, have them join Van so we can see them all interact, then Rean leaves we play as Van, meet up with Kevin, Van leaves, etcI think the one time they were clearly strapped for time and making a game cuz they had to put something out with kuro 2 was a bad product, but the connect events near the end were really good and i wouldn't consider it that much worse written than say, cold steel 3. They're in the same ballparki also think the shartens are not only to pad the game, but an attempt to address the complaint that in daybreak you can have long segments where all you do is walk around and talk, and instead of trimming the fat they give you auto generated dungeon slop thinking>haha, players liked mementos from persona 5, right?
>>730923309I played for a bit over an hour and what the fuck is this? Where's the hook? Where's the comfy banter? Where's the soul? 10 characters acknowledging each other for 30 minutes straight is NOT it.>ah yeah we launch a space rocket wowzers>it will surely shake up the underworld brosNo fucking wonder the game flopped in Japan.
>muh Estelleno one cares faggot, sky was good coz of Joshua. in fact he should've been the protag
>>730972280And then right after that intro you're thrown into some generic 4SPGs while the crew talks about rockets for like 5 hours. I'm having fun.
>>730972241I mean they're doing the remakes specifically so they can have more time to prepare the next main game. It's honestly a pretty good idea given how fucking stellar the Sky remake is.
>>730972361wrong
Chat do these games have frame generation? I won't touch anything that doesn't support it. Smooth motion is fine but I rather have the real thing
>>730970693We need more images like this.
>>730972361I'd agree with this. Estelle is just the generic genki 90s fem protag adventure series protagonist. She doesn't do anything unique to make her interesting. At least Joshua has some nuance. Estelle has the depth of a paddling pool.
>>730972565I made one a while back.
Chad Steel saved the franchiseRean is Falcom's best protagonistErebonian women are the most attractive
>>730972280You get banter in Van and especially Kevin's sections. But it is the worst paced and most "nothing fucking happens" Trails ever until the last 3 hours or so.
>>730972565I have this one>>730972712This but unironically
This scene was surprisingly uncringe considering it is a Japanese game. I was expecting some Xenoblade tier cringenuke when they said "concert".
>>730971748its because the "romance" in modern trails is a side noteagnes' love is probably the first time a romance has been relevant since the sky saga
>>730972874And that's a good thing. Too many times I've seen JRPGs get bogged down by romance. The harem shit unironically prevents it by making it a side thing you can ignore.
>>730972874Romance should be kept as a sidenote. Giving player's choice when it comes to it is better than some forced pairing that probably won't resonate with half the audience. People vastly prefer Persona/Cold Steel over Sky/Talesslop.
>>730972731Objectively untrue as Daybreak 2 exists.
