So I finally made my gf play Super Mario World, I chose World because I deem it the easier of the retro Mario games to get into.Well, she was completely crushed by it and got super frustrated. She was able to barely make it through Yoshi's Island 2 but starting from YI3 she wasn't able to beat ANY level, I also keep reminding her to use the run button to jump longer but I don't know, she can't grasp it.I keep beating levels (we were playing 2 player mode) and by the time she tried Donut Plains 3 she gave up.I then gave her my 3ds and she played New SMB2 and had a much easier time with it, started beating levels and got to the first castle all on her own.She's also not bad at video games but admittedly her expertise is puzzle games like Puyo Puyo, Dr Mario and Tetris.She also plays some survival horror games and FPSs, but I guess 2D action/platformer just isn't on her system.Still, it made me realize how SMW is only "easy" for those of us who played lots of Mario and platformers in general.The New series really was made with less skilled/experienced players in mind
>>730928692World is still easier than the entire New series though
>>730928692>She's also not bad at video gameslol, clearly
When I was a kid I was equally bad at games but I didn't get frustrated, I was happy to be there. Not just being able to enjoy the ride is scrub shit. She doesn't have the gene, she's not gonna make it.
>>730928692i love the old mario games but yeah, i can see why they got easier with each installment when i look at some of my friends who aren't used to the series getting completely wrecked by what i consider to be relatively easy levels.i once made a mario clone for people like me who find 2d mario a breeze. i playtested it quite a bit and thought it was a decent challenge only for the most common complaint to be that it's as hard as kaizo, and i wouldn't even call myself great at mario or anything. that's what made me realize this is why nintendo keeps mario on the easier side
>>730928934I had Game Boy Contra as a kid (censored Yuropean version so it was called PROBOTECTOR which is clearly a much better name) and I don't believe I ever made it past level 5 out of 6
>>730928692>gf
>>730928692Don't fucking play 2 player. When 1 player is skilled and the other is complete beginner it throws off the pace because one guy keeps beating all the levels and advancing in the game, carrying the other into harder and harder stages which they have no hope of beating if they couldn't even beat the easy stages. Not to mention they'll often start a stage, die in 3 seconds by bumping into the first enemy, and now they have to sit there and watch you breeze through the stage on your turn. No one can learn to play the game like this. Should've made her start it in 1 player with you purely watching so she can try again immediately when she dies and has to keep replaying the early stages until she can beat them.
>>730929312this is true of every videogame by the way. if you don't normally play but your friends invite you to play factorio for example, you aren't going to have a good time. you will get bitch work while they silently accomplish the more interesting parts of the game. you want to play multiplayer with equally skilled opponents
>>730928692that was the first game I beat when I just turned 6
>>730931801world btw not the gay wiislop
>>730929025>PROBOTECTORholy shit, i remember playing this game but someone in my family must have lost the cartridge. i likely have not thought about this game in over 25 years
>>730932368Time to emulate it