It's cooked.
>hey gamers, FUCK YOU!>WTF why did no one buy our game??? *goes bankrupt*Why does this keep happening?
>>730934480kek nothing of value was lostno one buys this trash anyway
i wonder what regions they're considering.
And yet when chinks make games for other chinks make fun of them for only making chinky shit lmao.Japan is so cooked if they adopt this mentality. That their own country cant even sustain their own gaming industry.
>>730934480i think i can speak for the global audience when i say "tits too small".
>>730934480>Mar 4 2025They did mass layoff for western departments two months ago.Does that mean they'll make good shit? Probably not, but your """news""" are old.
Gee I wonder why. Almost like the entirety of japan filtered out the value of their own opinions by only buying gacha, nintendo, and mobileslop.
>>730934480Nobody bought RebirthAlso we've known about the Ethics Department for years
>>730934480>>730935209>NOOOO THEY TEENAGE GIRL CHARACTERS ARE LESS SEXUALIZEDyeah I can live with this. Tifa not having bare legs sucks though.
>>730935176The nintendo shit really is crazy. Every single week the only things that chart are nintendo games. Nobody buys 'normal' games like GTA, open world rpgs, shooters etc. Its all nintendo games for kids like animal crossing.
>>730934480>talored for different regionsSuch as LA, Santa Barbara, San Francisco. The audience is global now
>>730935356>nobody buys 'normal' games like a murder sim, murder sim fantasy edition, murder sims etc
>>730934656because the second part never happens. look at how fucking dogshit capcom is nowadays and nothing happens to them
>>730935401Yes you retard, the vast majority of games involve fighting and killing things.
>>730935176Japanese games are hugely popular in China though, like half the sales of any random JP game on Steam would be Chinese. And yet they cater to California instead for some reason
I don't buy censorslop.
>>730935296Why was it uncensored for 4 years and then censored?Did only pedophiles play the game in the first 4 years?If not why did they censor it?
>>730935502Thats going to rapidly change as china has been antagonistic toward japan.
>>730935506why does the world ONLY get worse as time goes on...?
>>730935472It does happen, but only to small studios like the people behind Dustborn or the Saints Row reboot. Saying "Fuck you gamers! The game isn't for you!" and then being pic related when the game doesn't sell and their studio is forced to close.Big studios like Square or Capcom are never going to go under, no matter how much woke and unoptimized slop they put out due to brand recognition alone.
>>730935506thank god they made these changes, the world is saved now. no more sex crimes, no more trauma
>>730935652How do you figure?XIV is on fucking fire and is hemorrhaging players.XVI sold 3m and still hasn't turned a profit.Rebirth sold worse than XVI which is insane considering the brand.The Tactics remake barely managed to scratch a million sales before falling into obscurity.And now the DQ7 remake is censored trash too.What exactly do you think is keeping this company afloat?
>>730935652>Big studios like Square or Capcom are never going to go under, no matter how much woke and unoptimized slop they put outwhy?
>>730935743Insurance. I'm not kidding, the vast majority of Square Enix's profits comes from selling insurance.
>>730935506>keep the skimpy bikini outfits, but now it's over shirts and pantsWhy not just create another outfit at that point? It looks stupider than just having one or the other.
>>730935618maybe it was supposed to stop a while ago, but we keep living so it has to make shit up but its all retarded, like when you start questioning a dream and it gets more incoherent and spooky until you wake up.
>>730935472It does, but definitely not every time. It's been happening more and more frequently as time goes on though. My guess is because AAA devs have started to burn through their stored goodwill they had left over from the late 00s and 10s.
>>730935769Look at Pokemon. Game Freak hasn't put out a game of even mediocre quality in over 15 years and they're still the most profitable gaming company on the planet.Brand recognition does wonders. People will always buy the next Final Fantasy or Monster Hunter, no matter how much Square or Capcom fuck up. And even if they don't buy the game, they'll still buy merch from past games (How dogshit companies like Game Freak get most of their money too) propping these juggernauts up forever. They're too big to fail.
>>730934480square enix truly is retarded their most popular games where made with only japanese market in mind and they were a hit on the west
>>730934739stop generalizing and speak only for yourself
>Dragon Queers mainline is in the worst development hell yet, remake is hypercensored>Final Faggotry has never been as unpopular and prospects for part 3 of the FF7 remake look dire after Flopbirth>Kingdom Sharts might as well not exist anymore, KH3 poisoned the well and zoomers literally don't know what KH is>their MMO is a graveyard, most WoW private servers do better than this lmao>even their mobile trash is hitting EoL left and right because of lack of interest>everything AA has either been abandoned or given up on, Bravely, Octopath, Saga, Triangle Strategy, all deadI'm at the point where I actually don't think this company can be saved. I don't see a move they can actually make that will restore player faith anymore.
>>730935607So? They're suddenly going to stop liking Ninja Gaiden because of it? They're not as obsessed with politics as US
>>730935957It's not hard to undserstand why. As much as they fuckup, there are still no real alternatives or competitors that can match what they make even at their worst.
>>730935957>too big to failI think this is all I needed to read in order to understand. Thanks. I guess it also explains why Shittendo still lives despite their hardware being dogshit from 2-3 generations ago and doing nothing but mario and zelda.
>>730935957>Brand recognition does wondersSadly the name Game Freak does not do any wonders.Did you know that they have been making games that are not for Nintendo? In fact they're planning to release a brand new game for PC, PS5 and Xbox this year.
>>730936057They should triple down on AI unironically and make a GAAS FF that shits out content at a ridiculous rate due to quick AI turnaround. It would either kill them completely or be the next Genshin. I don't see any other moves left, they need to take a huge risk or just fizzle out and die
>>730936096The people themselves aren't the problem but their government have been ramping things up, even cancelling events for fans with japanese singers at conventions.
>>730936057They can be acquired. Sony still sees some value in them as launch-titles and they know how to drum up hype.
>>730936162I bet if you asked most people who made Pokemon, they'd say Nintendo or have no idea. Most people don't recognize companies, but they recognize brands.Pokemon stuff will always sell.Final Fantasy/Dragon Quest stuff will always sell.Monster Hunter/Resident Evil/Megaman stuff will always sell.But when these companies try something new, its very likely a miss rather than a hit, or even if it sees success, it won't spawn a merchandising empire like their main IPs.
I’ll never forgive them for what they did to my queen Manya
>>730936106>their hardware being dogshit that doesn't matter if it makes a profit , switch 2 on the other hand , Nintendo can't escape their curse its always one successful console followed by a shitty one
Japan has finally fallen but now we have China and Korea making new and interesting games with hot waifus now. Japan could never move on from their ancient boomer series
>>730935957>People will always buy the next Final FantasyThat's not how brands work. FF means nothing even to most zoomers because FF brand was last relevant in 2001. Millennials, we WILL always buy the next FF, but everyone younger then us will not
>>730936057FFXIV is dying and it has lost about 40% of its playerbase during Dawntrail, but you using STEAM CHARTS is retarded.Imagine this scenario. Blizzard decides to put WoW on Steam. The numbers on Steam end up being very small. Does that mean that WoW's player count is very small?
>>730936307dont forget Taiwanese games, Nine Sols is 10/10
>>730936313Zoomers have very little purchasing power and they like to hop on short lived trends (think cheap/f2p FOTM games).Millennials/Gen-X are the biggest audience for game companies these days. They target the 30-45 year old audience because they're the ones with money to burn on games and the merchandise that goes with them. They're the generations that stick with an IP from their childhoods like it's a part of their personality.
>>730936307I disagree. A lot of what china and korea makes very obviously comes off as a lesser imitation from trying some of them.
>>730936414Doubt.pngWe may have money but most of us are so busy working we barely buy games. All my friends who used to play a lot now buy like 1 game a year
>we create with global audiences in mind>meanwhile E33 goes for french setting and themes>W-WHY NOBODY IS BUYING OUR GAMES, WE NEED TO LEARN FROM EXPEDITION 33
>>730936313>Millennials, we WILL always buy the next FFWhere the FUCK were you for Rebirth?!
This man has done irreparable damage
>>730936487It confuses me why not more companies do this.Like imagine if Denmark, or Poland or some other Euroshithole tried to make a game set in a fantasy version of their own country, base it on weird folklore and other creative tales made by people who speak the same language. Wouldn't you much rather play a Lithuanian game set in a fantasy version of their country fighting enemies inspired by legends you've never heard?
>>730936483bro , anecdotal fallacy
>>730936483It's less the games as it is the brand recognition. Millenials will buy a Pokemon Lego, a Final Fantasy funko pop, a dragon quest throw pillow, etc even if they've not touched the games in years. These are the real money makers.
>>730936487The lesson the companies, especially japanese ones, are going to learn is going to be very fucking stupid.>people seem to like this game that is french>french is not japanese>so we should make games that pander to people that are not japanese>lets call this group of people "global audience"!
>>730936585vs your total lack of evidence anecdotal evidence still wins bro
>>730936685lol no it doesnt you stupid bitch
>>730936581>Wouldn't you much rather play a Lithuanian game set in a fantasy version of their country fighting enemies inspired by legends you've never heard?I would, and so would most people. One of the many problems of globalization is that it turns everything into this gray unappealing sludge.One of the things Expedition 33 got right was that it played into its French tropes, almost to a fault, and put their own weird spin on it.
>>730936685I'm a millennial.I work a 40hr a week job.I still find the time to purchase and complete ~10 games a year.
>>730936685>>730936710you know what fine, here it is https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/new-study-shows-that-gen-z-is-spending-way-less-money-on-videogames-than-older-gamers/
>>730934480If this was true, they wouldn't put so many nogs into it. China isn't fond of those. What they mean is, they're adhering to Sony (Commiefornia HQ) standards, and then projecting those to be what 'The World' SHOULD be adopting.
>>730937059Yes yes bla bla bla cope
>>730936474Japan has never been good at CG or 3d modeling and chinks and koreans have destroyed them in the anime style 3D game department and with better girl designs because Japan can't reign in their horniness for a little aesthetic. Japan could be making new shit but they're stuck thinking anyone cares about a new entry in a 20+ year old ancient boomer series.
>>730936565Inafune is a fucking hack who has been trying to ride his entire career on the coat tails of other, better, and more competent leader than he ever was. His entire debacle with Mighty No. 9 is proof of this, and it was a total disaster and I'm happy he had to eat the shit he served up to his patrons during it. That being said, there is quite literally nothing wrong with what he went on to say. Japanese games are nothing but recycled tropes, cliches, and bottom-of-the-barrel bullshit these days. If it wasn't for gooner whales in Japan, nothing they have put out in the past 15 years would have ever seen the light of day. Sure, some of them have kept themselves relevant and saved themselves from the destitution of forgotten bargain-bin trash, but that doesn't mean much when even THE FRENCH can mog your entire industry with a group of 2 dozen passionate people and a good design.Japan used to have passion, creativity, a penchant for pushing the boundaries, and dare I say it, a soul. But those days are fucking gone.
>>730934480This timeline fucking sucks.
>>730934480Hahaha never buying hahahaha!
>>730934480Do you have any more old news to share?
>>730937736>Japan used to have passion, creativity, a penchant for pushing the boundaries, and dare I say it, a soul. But those days are fucking gone.These japs still exist somewhere out there, just not shackled to big corpos. Look at Black Souls and Astlibra. I bet there's quite a lot of soulful devs who stick to smaller scale indie games that only release on DLsite or yearly conventions but of course we're never going to hear from those.
>>730935618Mass communication technology is and will forever always be the biggest reason. But that's been described to death so I'll hit you with a lesser impactful variable that is still significant: modern medicine. We've created an unprecedented geriatricocity ruling paradigm. A completely unnatural inverted population pyramid all thanks to modern medicine. People live longer, accrue more resources as they live longer, and out compete younger generations with their first mover advantage. More and more time, energy, and resources is directed towards geriatric concerns. The only silver lining is the unprecedented effects of this bubble of old fucks popping when they all croak over the next 30 years. It will inspire a new renaissance.
>>730936504I didn’t even want to bother with remake because they split the whole thing into three parts. I get they expanded the whole game, but if I want to play a remake of FF7, I want to play a remake of all of FF7, not just part 1. I might have ended up dodging a bullet because of it.
>>730938439Probably did, yeah. I played Rebirth and essentially swore off the entire franchise after that.
>>730938439>>730938485You need to play each part on release or you are missing out
>>730938575Nah, I'm done, make better games or the flops will continue. I'm sick of sticking up for this brand.
What's your opinion of the guys who don't like the Rebirth censorship but defend it anyway out of a strange automatic response to any form of criticism of 7R?They dislike it just as much as you but HAVE to say it doesn't matter or disparage the character of anyone who cares. What do you think of guys like that?
>>730938867Arguably the best bred cattle in existence. Imagine defending a company that doesn't care about you, doesn't know who you are and doesn't make products that appeal to your tastes, but since you recognize [brand] you defend it to your death.One cannot get more mindbroken than that.
>>730938867I like to believe that people who played FF up to 10 have some weird affinity with the series. Most of these people have fallen away as the series deteriorated, but some have made it part (if not the entirety) of their identity. These people feel personally attacked when their series isn't adored and appreciated because that means they aren't either. It's a pathetic existence but I don't really blame them: they're too stupid to save themselves.
>>730938485I didn't even mind Remake, other than the time jannies. Rebirth has killed any interest in part 3 for me. Fuck open world 200 hour ubislop. They should've just made the whole thing linear like Remake.
>>730938867These don't exist. They like the censorship.
>>730936274>or have no ideaparent company owns smaller company but ntards want to push all the failures on gf as if it's some independent entity
>>730938575Oh well, I guess I missed my chance if that's the case. I just won't play them at all.
>>730934480no shit. the domestic market has pretty much abandoned home consoles. it's portable gacha slop or death.
>>730939292And why did the domestic market abandon home consoles?
>Here is Cosmos Canyon, the heavily Native American coded area>Let's make the main sidequest NPC story line in this region blackI literally dropped the game there.
>>730939362because people don't give a shit about these types of games. they're made for people who hate what video games are. people want fun.
>>730939023I have that affinity and I love the remakes. Note that I only ever form my own opinions about things and people saying I should hate something just because rarely sways me.
>>730934480There's nothing ethical about globalism.
>>730939410Right. Who did Japan have in mind when making these games?
>>730939362Because they have limited space and spend alot of time outside of the house. That is why portable systems were always very popular there.
>>730939450Millenials, people who were born pre around mid 2000s who grew up with this stuff.
>>730936313>Millennials, we WILL always buy the next FFNot really.
>>730939414>people saying I should hate something just becauseIs that all they're saying?
>>730939386BIPOC birds of a feather, allaband together!
>>730939023I won’t lie, FF started to lose me around 11. I won’t even say 11 was bad but it wasn’t really what I was into Final Fantasy for, and I ended up going to other turn based games, hell they moved that to games like Bravely Default and Octopath. The last FF games I really loved were the Dissidia games even if they were just fanservice games.
>>730939503Millennials stopped being born in 1996 you blithering retard.Most Millennials were adults by the mid 00's
>>730939507FF7 remakes have been biggest with the 30+ crowd who played the original as kids. FF16 was specifically made to cater to Game of Thrones fans, aka Millennials and they're the only ones who bought it.
>>730939503No, as it's been established the native millennials wouldn't have any of it. Who is ultimately responsible for Japan abandoning consoles?
>>730939681I don't know you tell me instead of doing quiz shit.>>730939661hence the comma.
>>73093963511 was the GOAT. I must've put thousands of hours into that game. Wish it was still active. Not paying a subscription for a dead MMO.
>>730939675>Game of Thrones fans, aka Millennials Where did this meme come from? We grew up with hobbit movies, not the Netflix homo drama.
>>730934480>Create niche product>Niche product achieves broad popularity due to excelling at its niche captivating people with its uniqueness>Rip out everything unique to try and bring mythical mainstream audience in>Fans drop the now bad product while the mainstream audience as the word 'mythical' implies does not turn up as they do not exist>Company goes bankruptI would say something of value was lost but the actual skill left square enix decades ago so it really isn't.
>>730939718Should be obvious enough given the thread. Japanese console games went after the mutt market in 2006, the japanese never wanted to drop consoles, they were forcibly expelled from them.
>>730939846Game of Thrones is an HBO series that began in 2011. The Hobbit (2012) was greenlit because of Game of Thrones being seen as a revival of consumer interest in the fantasy genre.
>>730935296I prefer her undressed over a Roastie
>>730934480>Rebirth>global audienceThey meant niggers.A lot of them, and it sucked.
>>730939210EA was never wrong, then? Or is it OK when Nintendo does it?
>>730939940no you retard. kids do not care for this type of game that's all there is to it. they prefer friend slop and multiplayer slop and gacha slop they haven o interest in two retards yapping for half the game about some shit. tradiitonal jap game market has no choice but to pander to westerners there's literally no one else to buy their shit games like yakuza haven't sold in japland for years now and that's as jap as you can get. these movie games were innovantive at the time but they don't carry the same appeal again online, gacha and all that shit is king.
>>730939963>implying I wasn't talking about the 3 movies that started in 2001
>>730940090Lord of the Rings =/= The Hobbit
>>730940057it's why those weeb coomer vita games died as well gacha shit took its place.
>>730934656>Have black person in the gamehey gamers, FUCK YOU>Have unattractive woman in the gamehey gamers, FUCK YOU>Have a homosexual man in the game hey gamers, FUCK YOU>Tell the story you want to tellhey gamers, FUCK YOU
>>730934480They're making the same mistakes they did during the PS3 era, this shit doesn't work.
>>730940057Movie games have been dead for like a decade or so now. You don't really see anyone selling a game by claiming it's a "cinematic experience" which is what everyone did in like 2007 to 2014.
>>730940057Ignorant non-sense, possible semite origins.
>>730940130tedious argument
Japanese devs are in a weird place where they want to add woke shit for the West but still want to have their attractive females in them. They're trying to make everyone happy by appealing to radicals but those are the ones who have 0 tolerance. While resetera seeds at bikinis and Cammy in SF6, /v/ seethes at Marisa and gay black presenter.
>>730940489That's after the mistake they made in the PS2 era by doing an hollywood-styled compilation of FF7 that was similarly pretentious.
>>730940638The weird place the west has been in for decades now...
>>730941154I don't think the west is trying to appeal to anyone but trannies
>>730941185As opposed to Square Enix?
>>730941248I mean they still have attractive females, look at what they're doing to Lara Croft in the new game.
No shit. Only like 50 thousand people can live on the Jap islandnot a huge market
>>730941248I will never buy another game from them after they did this.
I have long since passed on modern Final Faggotry.
>>730941424And yet people still bicker about what microadjustment SE needs to make to "fix" FF and bring us all back to it, when the reality is they permanently burned all their bridges with stunts like these a long time ago. FF doesn't need to be turn-based or niche or whatever. It needs to be done away with.
>>730934829god damn no budget for female hands huh
>>730934829>poor people living in the slums>not dark skinnedthey're just being realistic, if blacks exist, that's where they would live
>>730934480I was indifferent to the FF7 remakes at first, but now I actively want squeenix to go bankrupt.
>>730942085But Yuffie is so cute
>>730942201The jailbait character is expendable.
>>730942201All the more reason SE has to die before they censor her again.
>>730934480There's no room for your bigotry in Final Fantasy
>>730942441There's no room for FFXIV anymore either.
>>730942441There's no room in yoshit-piss's bank account for my money either.
>>730942441I don't give a shit
>>730936565He nearly killed the new Fantasy Life game, he can fuck off
>>730935472>look at how fucking dogshit capcom is nowadays and nothing happens to themThey can go bankrupt as soon as they release Pragmata, not before.
>>730941185Anon...
>>730942441What the actual fuck.
>>730934480This is just lip service. Maybe for stuff like character designs and other visual elements, but if it applied to story themes and dialogue, his games wouldn't have multiple cases of censored dialogue in english. It just wouldn't have the "problematic" lines to begin with. Like Wedge saying all women are actresses and for Cloud to not believe women.
>>730942441>I could see from a mile away that it was a dude in a female uniform>the mother didn't want her daughter to see that pervert, what the FUCK japan???? we need to be better maams!
>>730943570This. If you want to larp as a different gender, at least put some fucking effort in. An Asian high school boy should have no problem pulling off the appearance of a girl.
>>730943398>Maybe for stuff like character designs and other visual elementsOh is that all? Well that's ok then.>>730938867It's strange, isn't it?
>>730944079Stealthing is bad.
>>730944117Not ok but not exactly news either.
>>730934480>nowHaven't they been doing this for some time now?
>>730935472Look at ubishit even square is getting buck fucked stop being a good goy
>>730934480The previous two games being trash didn't clue you into the fact that the third in this trilogy was going to be absolute garbage?
>>730945485true
>>730934480Kek SE is fucking done.
>>730940305It's funny how libtards manage to argue that Chuds only hate these new games because they have gays and blacks AND that gaming as always been political and woke because there are games people liked that had gays and blacks.It's almost like you're wrong and can only yap about strawman arguments. Enjoy all the gaming industry layoffs.
>>730934480What happened to this company?
>>730934656>bankruptSquare Enix will outlive your bloodline.
i essentially swore off final fantasy after 13that shit sucked ass
>>730935176>nintendoThe Switch 2 flopped and ate shit.
>>730949165>Barry has to keep on bumping his hate thread when it reaches page 10Pitiful. Hilarious, but pitiful.
>>730949331you think this thread hit page 10 in 12 minutes?/v/ isn't that dead yet
>>730934480No more gays so they can sell in arabia
>>730935618jews
>>730949331/v/ is a Barry-board now, tranny.
>>730934829NPCs are outsourced to cheap jeetsAt least they should outsource them to chinks
>>730949746But we have our man in.
>>730949889He literally won the Goy of the Year award.
Look up this Hamaguchi faggot, absolute cancer. Look at this track record, literally 100% slop. His games are so consistently shit he may as well be a Mossad agent.
>>730935957>Game Freak hasn't put out a game of even mediocre quality in over 15 years and they're still the most profitable gaming company on the planet.Imagine the moolah they'd make if they'd market "Pokémon: The flamethrower" themed after a Charizard.
>>730950935i'd buy that
>>730935950Yep. Ubisoft is a fitting example.
>>730934656The answer was there two years ago
>>730947975They said the same about sega, square doesn't has too much shills like they used to be, hell they even sold Lara croft IP for pennies>>730949880Chinks hate nips>>730949165Not in Japan>>730935502They cater because American companies bought all their IPO
>>730934480>global audience fuck>ethical reviews double fuckNormies just take and take, and they don't even care what they ruin
>>730935472Capcom is not even close to being as retarded as squenix and ubifeces
>>730953212Wilds was pretty trash tho...
>>730935472Capcom is currently shitting bricks because MH Wilds sales fell of so extremely hard after the first month that it's being outsold by fucking DMC5SE when it was supposed to be a cash cow they could milk for the next half decade.
>>730953520hmm I wonder what the reason could be for DMC outselling monster hunter, must have been pure blind luck.
>>730953754Outsold monthly by plenty of other shit, too.
>>730934480SE keeps blaming Barry for FF flopping, but really they're doing it to themselves.
