Is this going to be the most flop-on-arrival WoW expansion to date? I can't find anyone who cares outside of like 3 perma-addicts in /wowg/.
>>730937820its out?
>>730937820Are there any omorashi emotes in this game?
>>730937852prepatch out in a week, expansion release in 5 weeks0 hype lol TBC Classic fresh somehow has more hype
>>730937903qrd?
>>730937820>I can't find anyone who caresSorry chud, but WoW is experiencing a renaissance.It is nearly as high as it was during the peak of its lifecycle, during Classic/Battle for Azeroth.Midnight will probably see numbers in the 9m+ range, maybe even topping 10m
>>730938903holy fuck... it's happening... XIVbucks on suicide watch
hope so, so i dont have to ever see a wow thread again but i know the retards here will eat that shit up anyways
>>730937820I simply want blizzard to die, for real, and take MMO's with them to the pit.And bonu for the vulperatranny killing himself
>>730937820they are finally trying to back to wow roots, I'm not gonna play it though
>>730937820They gutted its content to focus on housing that people already stopped giving a shit about because housing is better in theory than in reality.Everyone loves the idea of housing but not the reality of it.
if you didn't like the last one you wont like this one.
>>730937820I'm just waiting on classic+
thought they shut down the servers years ago
>>730937820I'm kinda done with warcraft
>>730937820Chat is this real?
I watched my friends play during the last expansion and felt relieved that I didn't want to play. it's so boring and tedious.
Only good thing I can say about WoW these days is that the armor is still cool to look at.
>Only new features are housing and Cro-Magnon night elves They will never give people what they ask for or want. Housing is such a fucking nothing feature like Garrisons.
Every time I try to start playing again I get filtered by how gay and insulting everything is to both my sensibilities and my intelligence. The last time I uninstalled I didn't even make it out of character creation because I saw the fucking night elf burn scar cosmetics they added.
>XIVtroons already coping in this threadWoW will continue to be the top MMO on the market. Seethe and dilate.
>>730938903I wanna see the y-axis
>>730940572The king of hell.
>>730938903Considering that they canned that one writer who copy pasted kingdoms of almular lore he wrote into wow, and the only remnants of his world building left are the new elf race, coupled with the fact they got the old writer from BC and WotLK times makes this Expansion have promise. Especially since the update is also rebuilding Quel'thalas to continue Night and Blood Elf storylines.
>>730940670>they fixed everything this time!yeah but i’m just not going to buy it
I used to play this every day, went to every midnight launch, went to blizzcon, was addicted in every possible way.I can't tell you what this is, if its even an expansion, where its set, who the villains are, what new classes or professions it adds. I have never seen a soul talk about it either.You don't know how good it feels to not be a blizzbuck anymore.
>>730941767hello asmon
>>730940670wow writing is a group effortthe people who ruined the lore in SL are still employed at Blizzard today this "danuser era" and "metzen era" nonsense is nothing but a scapegoat, the idea of 1 guy having definite power over other writers in a woke company is an insane proposition and if you had a shred of intellectual honesty and frankly intelligence, you'd realize that very quickly
>>730937820>I can't find anyone who cares outside of like 3 perma-addicts in /wowg/.You people forget that not only tryhards play MMOs, more than 80% of WoW's playerbase just does dailies, fishing and maybe 2/3 mount runs, then either logs out or goes to Moonguard to sit AFK.No matter what Blizzard releases people will continue buying it simply because they want to be in that world, log in, and chat with friends while building their House or whatever RP/ERP people do nowadays.
>>730942161the vast majority of people don't play on rp servers or do any rpwhat are you smoking lil retoilet?
>>730941658Not saying they fixed everything. Just an upward trajectory.
>>730942460When was the last time you logged WoW? People unironically RP-ing and typing like absolute faggots on every Realm.
>>730942471if you look at the bfa trend and classic launch it looks more like half the players are playing classic
>>730942768>SAAR WHEN DID U LOG>WHEN DID U LOG BENCHOD BITCH>PEOPLE DOING NEEDFUL ON ALL REALM!!!were going home they fixed everything bros metzenkino inc this time they listened trust the plan 2 more expansions the war is back in warcraft
https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-lindormis-guidance-mythic-affix-provides-basic-dungeon-route-in-midnight-379948Actual good change to the gameplay for once.
Zero hype is genuinely good. Hype is the death sentence of products because reality can never live up to imagination.The expac will launch, and the content will be good, decent MMO content, and will be judged fairly, instead of hyping it up as the next REVOLUTIONARY ERA DEFINING GAME CHANGING EXPAC OF ALL TIMEFuck hype, i’m looking forward to it
batterd wife syndrome
>addon API isn't finalised>loads of talents and abilities still bugged>some specs require apex talents that are inaccessible (there isn't even a UI for apex talents they're just floating around)>"server side" damage meter is inconsistent between players and still has no ability to export the log>balance is nonexistent>stat squish to further complicate things>patch drops in 8 days>base UI is buggy and unfinished
>>730937820I'm almost 40, so I actually like the changes. I'm tired of MMOs with these complicated 15 button rotations being crammed into tight burst windows.
>>730943943last i read blizzard’s weakaura replacement shows wrong timers and is totally bugged for feral
https://www.wowhead.com/news/addons-continue-to-provide-a-massive-advantage-in-midnight-despite-blizzards-379870>Blizzard decide combat addons give too much of an advantage>Break pretty much every combat addon (WHICH IS FINE TBFH) with the goal that addons should only grant cosmetic changes to base UI>Addon devs have found workarounds except now they're just worse implementationsWhat an absolute Blunder. Midnight is shaping up to be another Shadowlands.
is wow ever gonna go back to 2010 era?overhaul the endgameno woke shit
>>730944048DPSissies complaining about cognitive overload when you have absolutely no accountability for anything and a 1 button mode is fucking pathetic anon. Stick for farming virtual funkopops.
>>730944048>I'm tired of MMOs with these complicated 15 buttonName 1Also games shouldn't cater to you retarded low iq normalfags
>>730944259>TBC Anniversary asks you if you're Male or Female now!!Game is playable again!!!!!!!!!!!
>>730944307
>>730944307this but unironically
>>730937820I forgot my buddy bought me a copy and I quit wow months ago.
>>730944189>remove coloring nameplates based on id>add coloring nameplates based on mob category>all that just to replace plater with something that does the same thing but worse lookingI wonder why nobody is excited for the new expansion
>>730944189these addons sound fine, dynamic weakauras were the big problem, you can’t and shouldn’t try to punish the people putting work into customizing their UI with people who don’t give a shit, you going to remove keyboard shortcuts because shitters don’t use them?
>>730937820>I can't find anyone who caresNigger, you're the obsessed one lmao
>S tierThe Burning Crusade>A tierClassic, WotLK, MoP, Legion>B tierCataclysm, WoD, Bfa, TWW>FDragonflight>Absolute Dogshit TierShadowlands
>>730944752vanilla is objectively the most popular and long lasting form of wow
>>730944954for nostalgia goggled faggots maybe
>>730944752TBC where the cancer started, jack of all trades with shit like druid kill yourself cuckold.
>>730945054get mangled, bitch
>>730945102obvious the druid nigger likes TBC, spastic nigger.
>>730937820What is even the reason to get this expansion? Is there even a single thing?
WoW was always Fischer Price garbage and was popular because it appealed to normal fags. The fact it has so many threads on /v/ for over 20 years should show who it's target audience is.
>>730945190another mazeplus season of watching number go up
>new dungeonswhats even the fucking point?every dungeon is "pull half the instance and aoe them".rip cata launch heroics.
>>7309456744 new and 4 rehashed
Every expansion beyond WotLK should be retconned into a plague induced feverdream, TBC and WotLK should get rewritten.
>>730943157>help players learn a reliable dungeon routedungeons being designed for esports is a mistake (just look at Fellowship), this does nothing to make that better
Ill buy it when the patch drops so I can play the new specHonestly the spec is all I care about really
>>730945674>cata launch heroics.I was therethey even removed Grim Batol from Timewalkingmost wow players are braindead retards
>>730945864While I agree with the sentiment, if we accept that this is just the fate of mazed plus, then adding a simple guidance feature is just objectively an improvement to that design.I don't like doing M+ but my friends do and I don't like letting my friends down, so for someone like me this is just a pure positive, all I do is follow the lights and remember that path, I don't need to waste my friend's time or go read some gay guide on a third party website, I can just get some keys done and get back to delvin.
>>730945864this is what running mythic+ does to a man
>>730946069I wish they put more dungeons in to timewalking, I much prefer variety over seeing the exact same 5 on loop.
>>730945864WAAAAH WAAAAH I SHOULD JUST BE GIVEN MYTHIC RAIDLOOT FOR LOGGING IN WAAAAAAAAH
>>730937820wow has been complete millennial slop since at least cata-mop years but it's so funny how they went from a bad game to what the fuck is this mobile tier pile of crap after BfA
Just two more weeks.
>>730946317BfA was fine after 8.1
still dungusers baby metzen is being held back from going full magachud soon we'll be going home metzen kino incoming boys thralls back and hes left his wife and his sons not gay no more(he been delivert) trust the plan #Turaylyon2028 #ForTheLight #PaladinNotPaladoubt
>>730946317>millennial slop since at least cata-mop years but it's so funny how they went from a bad game to what the fuck is this mobile tier pile of crap after BfAbecause they start pandering to zoomers you ape, millennials are all play classic you dumbfuck.
>>730946657>they start pandering to zoomersLOL nice cope retard. Zoom zooms play mobas and battle royales not MMOS and at least they don't pay 15 bucks a month for those shitty games
>>730946317lol legion apologist detected, game was mobile trash since wod, go do your work orders and follower mission facebook games faggot
>>730946831>mobas>zoomersretard
>>730946860>>730946819
>that one femboy nelf with a few anims
>>730944592The issue is they're doing things outside what the base UI is capable of.
>>730946657I'm a millennial and I don't play classic, it's for idiots chasing 2006
>>730947265it’s not an issue because it’s trivial shit like “reminders” that any idiot can do with their brain or sticky note on their monitor
>>730938903The addon talk has scared alot of us away. I started again during dragonflight and played tww. I'm onboard with them getting rid of some addon functionality but I'm skipping an expansion. I just know their nigger blizzard version of weakauras is gonna suck for at least a year.
>>730947523you don't need weekauras for anything besides heroic/mythic raiding
druids shouldn't be allowed to dps :/ OH WAIT THEY CANT AND THEIR TANKING IS MEDIOCRE AF
Are classes still glorified slot machines with 3 actual buttons that all equate to>Build thing>Spend thing>Hope procs line up lmao git gud nerd
Reap was buffed, is it now worth pressing or still a waste of a gcd?
>>730938903>cutout the graph at legion as to not embarass yourself right off the bat>the biggest peak of the limited timeframe was a re-release of a 20yr old version of the game anywayhahahahahahahaha
>>730937980I thought xpacs always came out around november, why is this dropping now?
>used to love professions>overhaul absolutely killed it>used to like end game dungeons>mythic+ zoom zoom speed runs killed it>attacks used to have weight to them>now can't even tell when you land a critI'm just waiting for the next iteration of wotlk, whether it's classic era or SoD like the chinks got
>>730944274Occupying your cognition with pointless filler activities is terrible design, this is a step in the right direction.
>>730937820I intend to play it at launch then unsub after queueing a few arenas with old frens. Don't know much about the expansion but the trailer was bad. Probably the second worst after Dragonflight. WoW cinematics used to be a massive event but the last three have been lacklustre. Both War Within and this cinematic could have been patch trailers. I still remember the 5.4 SoO trailer fondly.
>>730938903All true facts that FF14 shitters will denyWoW suffered its worst drop during Shadowlands and 14 had a brief moment in the sun during that time, but the king has reclaimed his throneThe only thing 14 had over WoW was housing, and now not only is that gap cleared, the housing in WoW is ten times better than the garbage system in 14Seriously, what reason is there to play 14 over WoW at this point? PvP and combat in general is worse, boss mechanics are simplistic and unchallenging, the story used to be better but has since fallen off due to Woke Lmao... what's left?
>>730948618the profession change is one of the most egregious bullshit changes to datesame fucking reason as the M+ etc shit tooso they can just shit out mobile game tier faggotry and call it a new expansion/patch/etc, while being 90% the same shit with different namesnono thats not a dark iron swordthats a uhm, uh, thats a smegglerock cuttinator.please ignore that its literally the same thing from the last 3 expansions requiring a dipshit time gated orb of some kind etcmake sure you get the super duper homogay edition to get your 3 days head start and lock up the AH!
>>730944752>S Tier Classic>Coasting on Classic Good Will Tier Everything else.
>>730944752>TBC Added flying, the downfall of the game.
>>730947763Playing druid in PvE completely defeats the purpose of the class, the whole point of druid is to adapt to various situations with shapeshifting, in PvE you enter one form and stay there for the whole raid. Druid is a PvP class.
>>730944752>MoP>legionThey were dogshit, game ended in WotLK
itt: seething xivtrannies
>>730944752>SClassic>AWotlk>dogshitEverything else
>>730944752I would swap BFA and DF. Its just sad because BFA had amazing potential to be a kino Horde vs. Alliance total war expansion but they just HAD to slip in some Old God slop for no reason, which completely ruined it.
>>730948778imagine being such retarded nigger that together with others you pretend that this graph wasn't debunked and explained to helldoesn't matter if you use ff14, runescape, whatever mmo or not as punching bag, if you play wow yet alone retail YOU are the punching bag of entire /v/, mr literal faggotnigger>bbut at least im not a catboy in ff!no, you're worse. They're still faggots, but you're a blizzdrone, you cannot attack anyone here, you have no rights, now kill yourself before your parents notice who have you became. We had era of shitting on EAcucks, now you did it, being a literal blizzard cocksuckers yet alone wow player is below anything we've seen so far. You can now officialy compete with scam citizennow cry, fight back, prove me wrong. You cannot, you buy overpriced xpac of a game centered about same thign for decade while paying a monthly sub. Literal, fucking, human cattle to milk money from
>>730951643what? Old God kino saved BfA from the absolute dogshit faction war turned with all the Saurfang and Sylvanas bullshitI'm still fucking mad that they wasted all that money and effort in full cgi for saurfang and my boy NZoth got a bargage bin LotR ending
>>730946282WAAAAH WAAAAH IVE GOT TIKTOK BRAIN GOTTA GO FAST LIKE SHOOM SHOOM
>>730948456They announced back in 2023 that they're speeding up the release schedule, meaning expansions will come out faster than once every two years.
>>730951806FUCK OFF CAREBEAR!!!PUT THE WAR BACK IN WARCRAFT!!!FORTHEHORDE!!!!!!
>>730945864Instanced dungeons were the death of mmo's as a concept. I played games (DaoC, FFXI) where dungeons were part of the world and it was so much better.
>>730948618>attacks used to have weight to themthey changed the auto attack effects in legion to be really lame and shitty, you can’t even tell you’re attacking without scrolling combat text numbers
>>730947423Their philosophy is that addons shouldn't be doing more than what the base UI is capable of. This breaks that philosophy.
>>730952882tablets cant run a lot of the addons the lead tranny needs for his mythic raid carriesplease understand
>>730948707>filler activitiesYou mean actual mechanics you must respond to? Holy fuck DPSissies are having a melty over bosses not being target dummies hahahahaha
I cannot in good faith support a developer that subjected female employees to Ion's milking chamber on a regular basis.
>>730951806had to make saurfang into a crybaby cuck traitor, can’t have an assertive male in warcraft anymore >>730952882guess they should call them equalons instead of addons if they’re not allowed to add anything
>>730952971I'm obviously talking about rotations retardo
>>730948618You love professions because it was trivial. How the fuck are you being filtered by professions? What is your problem exactly?
>>730953113THATS EVEN WORSE LMAO
>What do you mean you don't love timegated fag shit designed to let early adopters/the no lifers/people who paid to play a week/days earlier to be forever ahead and incentivize never stopping for fear of falling behind!>in b4 some faggot picks one of the 5 things this could be in direct reference to to defend it thinking its obviously the one being mentioned
>>730953209Less pointless filler buttons is good, prove me wrong
>>730953279The DPS role already has no accountability for anything. Now you're upset your trivial rotations are too complex. WHEN YOU HAVE 1 BUTTON MODEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
I played a bit in Dragonflight, got almost daily invites to paid mythic runs. Disgusting, hope Blizzard goes bankrupt.
>>730953374You aren't proving me wrong, conclusion: you're wrong.
The concept of "rotations" is another shovelful of sod on the grave of mmo's. It's made by people who think a game should be about playing piano. A true mmorpg would just give you a list of attacks and spells and let you pick what to cast on account of resources, mob type, group setting and content. A million players playing out the exact same rotational keypresses like demented piano players isn't even a game anymore.
>>730953465I objectively proved you wrong. The solution for "complex" DPS rotations is 1 button mode. You have no retort, I accept your concession.
>>730953654Rotations came about because your idea (how things were) was shit and boring. About 50 abilities with 2 that gets used isn't interesting.
*Beats two drums like on a viking longboat*BUILDSPENDBUILDSPENDBUILDSPEND*hits a cymbal cause it lit up*
>>730948618in Classic and even Turtle-WoW you have opportunities for skill expression as early as before even level 10Retail just treats leveling as a tutorial and not even a good one. Retail has become a complete joke.
>>730953686The one button rotation makes you do less damage, it's only a tool to make grinding more mindless. It's not a solution to bloated rotations, trimming rotations to a point where every buttonpress feels impactful is the solution.
>>730953892levelling as a rogue in retail is still turbo aids. Actually playing as rogue in general in retail is turbo aids.
>>730953894>It's not a solution to bloated rotationsThat's exactly what it is. It lets shitters play the game at a base level. Reminder: the DPS role already has no accountability for fucking anything, now you want to to be even easier, when it has a 1 button mode.You have no dignity at all, stick to grinding trivial content for virtual funkopops.
>>730937820what about midnight is so unappealing anyway? i have absolutely zero desire to play a wow expansion - genuinely for the first time ever. i can't put my finger on what's off with iti mean i don't care for housing, so maybe that's part of it. the cinematic was also dreadful
>>730953970>Do you like doing 10% less damage than most other classes?uhno>Do you also want to get 3shot by mobs while leveling?uhhhhno?>BUT MUH STEALTH, STEALTH OP, SKIP MOBS FOR QUESTING REEEEEErogue is a fucking shitshow and the final nail on the coffin was turning one of the specs into some faggot pirate bullshit because muh memes hurhurhurhur >you wouldnt get it>its whedonesque with a hint of kafka
>>730953790How about 50 abilities that all offer some unique value depending on the situation other than 15 "do damage" buttons that you have to play twister with.
>>730954079your subconsciously recognize that it's no longer WoWyou're still addicted to WoW, but that "WoW" is no longer there, it's already been replaced and is worn as a skinsuit only, and even that skinsuit is rotting away and doesn't resemble the being that it was in life
>>730954195>how about enhance shamanhow about no, scott
>>730953892>not even playing hardcoreyour skill expression bwo?
>>730954195That is a shit idea and there's no a reason nobody does that.
>>730954027You don't solve the "no accountability" issue by making bloated rotations, you're just introducing additional problems for the individual DPS player that don't affect the encounter nor the other players at all. A completely isolated minigame to make DPS players feel like they're participating in an encounter is shitty design.Trimming the rotations, making each decision more impactful and increasing the amount of interaction through enemy/boss mechanics is the way to go.
>>730937820tranny game
>>730953790rotations were compensation for wrath dumbing down the game by removing threat, removing mana, removing cc, making everything raid wide, and emphasizing braindead aoe dps
