Now that the dust has settled, why didn't Metaphor manage to succeed Persona?
Because it’s persona without the dating sim mechanics, and we already have smt for that with much better combat. All in all the gayme was redundant.
>no romances>flat girls>woke plot about NATIONALISM BAD>weirdly anachronistic fantasy world that normalfags can’t relate to>forgettable music, aesthetics, and combatMaybe if it came out before P5 it would have gotten a warmer reception, but it’s even worse than that fucking Fire Emblem crossover game.
>>730940824To add to that everyone was going on about how deep the combat is and when you look inside it’s just the same “target weakness” bs as persona with the caveat it’s harder to build a phys persona cuz the mc is a fag with shit starting strength.
AI slop DEI nigger Persona 5Yeah everyone asked for that
>>730940618I think it was overall better than Persona, but it needed more world wandering and the calender needed to be much stricter. I think Meraphor Part 2 will be a rockstar.
>>730941124And it has a defensive game because it's true press turn instead of one more, and it has tag team skills and generally much better use of the turn economy, and it doesn't have one size fits all All Out Attack equivalent. Also you're wrong of course about the MC, because stats are largely pointless, weapon attack is the primary modifier for damage calculations.
>>730941426Hope they’re paying you good to shill this piece of shit
>>730940618No romances. That's literally it.Though urban fantasy of Persona is simply a cooler setting.
>>730941825This, if the game had let you pick which of the six girls after the protag's dick became queen it would have buried Persona.
>>730940824>forgettable musicI mean id say the music and art is probably the most memorable part of metaphor
>>730940618Why Metaphor should succeed another well-estabilished franchise?
>>730940618it never meant to
>>730941825This. Shit like "smelly hacker love" and "I want to FUCK my teacher" kept P5 alive for a long time.
>>730940618you cant romance the party. why would I want to play a worse SMT? also so many of the characters are retarded.
>>730940618>why didn't Metaphor manage to succeed Persona?It was never supposed to succeed or replace Persona because it's a game with its own separate identity and message to convey. Persona is meant for the rebellious youth, and Metaphor is for the thinking man who is navigating an ever-changing world. Metaphor achieved its goal by telling its unique story
>>730940618You cant date the brown elf though...
>>730941947>can't date Heismay
>>730940618i thought it was ok just not enough porn.
>>730940824A diet of ze bugs gives you Hank Hill ass
>>730942404Looks and sounds like generic Isekai.Persona has the appeal of immersing you in a double life of anime japanese HS student and Persona user warrior.
>>730943017>"smelly hacker love" and "I want to FUCK my teacher"Atlus can do without the ironic weebs like these desu.
>>730946626your brain doesn't exist
half the posts in this thread are from 1 person
>>730941825>No romances. That's literally it.I've seen this retarded ass take numerous times.You are out of your fucking mind. Romance in persona is less than a percent of playtime. P5 was the one that did the most with dates and whatever and its still mostly there for flavor. Metaphor is just ass. It doesnt look good. Looks forguetable and generic. Couldnt get thought the demo.
>>730946680And your game is generic isekai trash. On top of it its ultra pozzed.
>>730946857>Romance in persona is less than a percent of playtimeAnd more than 80% of the things people are talking about, which keeps the series alive.
>>730946857Yes, it's a fucking nothing part of the actual game, and yes it is mental. But the romance is also a long term reward that plays into the role playing element. Underestimate the appeal it has, especially for casual players, at your own peril.
>>730948462At who's peril? definitely not the metaphor devs lmao at /v/'s peril maybe because literally no one besides third world asians bring up the lack of romance in this game at all
>>730940618I'm honestly more surprised P3R didn't sell more considering how much demand there was for a P3 remake.
>>730950059Even more bizarre when you consider it's actually a pretty good remake.
it is better than E33 :^)
>>730950059>>730950123it's because both of these things were false premises. There was a bubble around P3 that took until the remake came out to burst. people that would behead you for insulting the remake at all before launch will happily shit on it today
>>730940618The only reason people like Persona is because it lets the vicariously experience the high school social life they missed out on. Metaphor doesn't let you do that.
>>730948462>ut the romance is also a long term reward that plays into the role playing element.It really isnt. Its always a binary choice at social link 8 or 9. Theres no relationship meter you gotta fill, theres no actual romantic options. >Underestimate the appeal it hasHow popular are dating sims? How popular is Persona? 5 sold how many millions of copies? It's incredibly reductive to assume these millions of people are playing these games for dozens of hours just to get to the i love you/youre my best friend choice at the end. Its a minor factor that adds some appeal, but to say its the main appeal is retarded. >>730948223>And more than 80% of the things people are talking about, which keeps the series alive.Source: Your asshole. No, 80% of people arent talking about the romance and romance mechanics. I assume what theyre talking about is "best girl" which is a thing in every anime and game series with female characters. Theyre also talking about the story and gameplay and sequel ideas. Also, its a single player game. The sales are what keep the series alive. This isnt an online game where you gotta have player retention to have revenue. Its incredible that people that come to an enthusiast forum like /v/ still have zero idea how the games theyre enthusiastic about even make money.
>>730950123
>>730950724>they missed out on.I dont understand why you retards are so compelled to project your mental ilness onto others. I get that being a loser is hard, but you could work on yourself instead of assuming everyone is as miserable as you.
>>730940618Because no romance, is just persona without the good parts
>>730940618Because Metaphor's gameplay is just Persona with a different skinArchetypes are visually boring when compared to SMT demons. They should have made a proper job system with different weapons and armor
>>730950941What will keep metaphor alive is them announcing the next thing and everyone on social media going "great I loved metaphor!!!!" and you sitting here panicking and upset because you can't comprehend why people care about something that doesn't have constant presence in your instagram feed for 2+ years
>>730940618It did. P5 was just an outlier even for Persona. Metaphor sold closer to what P3 and P4 did.
>>730951465It sold more than either of them actually
>>730940618Metaphor died because of woke.
>>730950059i wonder what the current numbers are probably well past 3m with sales and switch 2 port
>>730940618woke slop and no romance
>>730951779not very far past 2 million at the rate the game's sales fell off. The switch 2 port was also a huge flop
Because the setting isn't very relatable at any all compared to persona. Persona has bunch of chunni kids hanging out and jokes that can be relatable than all the political stuffs that drive people away
>>730952254I can only imagine a 12 year old gen alpha saying something like this unironically
>>730951431What the fuck are you talking about? Jesus Christ what a retarded thread.
>>730952349cope and rope little zoomie
>>730952131that's not true tho
>>730952430both things are true
People want romance in these games. It was smart of them to ditch the high school setting, but not allowing romance was retarded.Someone said that some localizers were forcing them to add LGBT+ relationship options into the game, and Atlus just decided not to include any.
>>730941825This. For whatever reason most people think a medieval European setting is what people want and it's like there are thousands of games in that setting. There's actually very few modern settings in games that aren't apocalyptic.
>>730952558you can say it over and over, but it'll never be the consensus
>>730940618They're both shit.
>not very far past 2 million at the rate the game's sales fell off. The switch 2 port was also a huge flop
>>730950123Shh, don't let the trannies that don't play Persona hear you say that.>>730950059Most people wanted a Persona 2 remake
>>730953175it was, they did a terrible job porting the game to switch 2 and it sold abysmally. SEGA even commented on the poor reception in their last financial report though they didn't share the numbersit took P3 reload 14 months to move 1 million copies after launch and that is despite the marketing being kept alive with the Aigis expac. It did better than SMT Vengeance which moved like 500k copies in the same 1 year+ timeframe but not Metaphor
>>730940618>pretentious writing that is so far up it's own ass despite really having nothing interesting to say>annoying mana drain dungeons with a time limit
>>730953841>hyperbole
>>730950123Isn't is missing a bunch of stuff from FES though?
>>730954007It's missing the Answer. Which I personally consider a net positive.
I don't care about the prince. In a proper RPG I could focus on being king.
>>730954084is that all? I thought it was more since I remember people kicking up a fuss when P3R came out.
>>730954154Anon... the game is literally about you becoming the king.
>>730954007nocharging for reanswer is a classic sega moment, but reload got it all now
