Is it weird to look at a HOI4 focus tree and go "That is EXACTLY what I want to happen IRL"?
>communism working IRLFake shit.
>>730942637Traditional communism didn't work because they lacked the technology to receive and analyze information either completely or quickly. That is no longer true in the 21st century, it's merely a problem of wanting to implement it or not.
>>730942791ah yes, the 21st century commie copethe reason as to why it doesn't work and never will is because implementing communism warrants authoritarianism and authoritarianism will always bring with itself corruption and nepotismNo, you will not be writing poems after the revolution, comrade xhey/themyou'll be shipped to the coal mine by drunkards, bandits and power hungry psychopaths
>>730943086Just remove human factor from governance, it is that easy.
>>730942181You just aren't mindbroken so you don't suffer from the mental illness of thinking that the stock market is the only entity capable of organizing people and you rationally think tabulation machines could be useful for planning. So not shocking at all beyond remarking how most people these days are basically schizophrenics with how hard Capitalist Realism has mutilated their souls.
>>730942637Please explain why you think the stock market is the only feasible solution for determining which commodities to produce? How do multicellular organism, ant hives, and regular people going shopping manage to plan their economic activities in advance without an internal market?
>>730943086>implementing communism warrants authoritarianismWrong, capitalists just want you to think that. There is no reason a communist country could not be democratically run, but it would need to be run by people who believe in democracy. All prior communist countries have been founded by revolting against despots and the sheep-like masses then being duped into installing another despot just because he says he's on their side unlike the other guy. Turning a currently democratic, capitalist country into a communist one would retain that democracy in all likelihood, because people there already expect to have a say in how things run.
>>730942791Communism worked. It was invented by Jews to enslave kill and humiliate goyim. It has never stopped working either. The dumbest part is that it's supposed to be the arche enemy of capitalism even though both systems are indestinguishable
>>730943260This. Humans can't be trusted. We must build a God.
>>730943260And delegate it to whom, an all-encompassing, ubiquitous AI overseer? Thanks, but I'd rather a human boot stamp on my face instead, at least it can be reasoned and appealed with and isn't necessarily made in the image of dysgenic jewish incels like Altman
>>730943490Feuerbach nor Engels were jewish.
>>730943587>at least it can be reasoned withYou vastly overestimate how rational most people are
>>730943587What the fuck are you even blabbering about? Why the fuck would anyone use an LLM for economic planning.
>>730942637>jews controlling the concept of currencyhmmm i wonder why
>>730943485>Wrong, capitalists just want you to think that.Damn, I'm arguing with literal underages hereYou'll grow out of it eventuallyWhat I've got left to say on the matter is that communism, again, warrants authoritarianism because it runs contrary to vicious human nature of being competitive, envious and unrulyWe've built civilization to curtail many of these vices for the sake of unified and prolonged survival, but the doctrines of communism try to curtail one too many and that's why all the regimes who have ever implemented it are corrupt, authoritarian shitholes who were "communist" in name, mass deaths and aesthetic alone
>>730943587>it can be reasoned and appealed withBut you mentioned "drunkards, bandits and power hungry psychopaths" in your previous post, and ah hell you're just arguing for the sake of argumentation sasuga
>>730943853>so naive and sheltered that he thinks "power-hungry psychopaths" can be reasoned with>calls others underagesweet projection from a typical generic newfag, may as well be a bot, artificial intelligence IF YOU WILL
>>730943853>Damn, I'm arguing with literal underages here>*proceeds to shart out one of the most idiotic takes ever*
>>730943721so what was the implication about removing human factor from governance, assuming current period and trends?
>>730943917>>730943968t. Vaush's and Hassan Piker's least retarded twitch comrades
>>730944032Not that anon so I can only guess but probably something like economic planning with optimization tools.>>730944113Dilate.
>>730943860Yeah, the point was that even those can be parlayed with in comparison to an AI or whatever the fuck will lack the human factor in governance as you commie kike faggots fantasize and circlejerk aboutThat very same governance will deem you and your entire shitskin family unfit for life in an instant (which honestly might not be all too bad)
>>730942181All of it is just a pretty dressing for a shit game.
>>730944113>e-celeb streamers out of nowhereholy newfag nigger, go to a local prison and visit a serial-killing sociopath then try to explain to him why it's bad to kill random people>>730944235Dude. You're new to 4chan and you think everybody who disagrees with you is brown. Lol. NewfagGPT acting up.
>>730944203>something like *abstract buzzword*glad to see that online commie pseuds never changego back to your discord/roblox grooming, you vile troonleave the intellectual pursuits to actual men
>>730943853Not everyone is competitive, envious and unruly. We need to give those people the Uygher treatment, not try to work with or around them. There's no neccessay cause and effect between communism and tyranny, it is simply the case that in the 20th century, communist movements outside capitalist countries were always led by wannabe tyrants who saw it as their ticket to power. There is no reason it HAS to be that way.>literal underagesBackwards. I was a lolbert when I was younger but have become more and more socialist as the years have gone on as I've realized how utterly rotten modern finance capitalism is.
>>730944409He's just going to call you names again. Literal child is having a crying tantrum ITT.
>>730944337t. mad he's been ousted as a zoomer shitskin champagne socialist
>>730944401If you don't know what mathematical optimization is then I suggest you stop humiliating yourself online and go pick up a book.
>>730944409>We need to give those people the Uygher treatment>NO, COMMUNISM DOESN'T WARRANT AUTHORITARIAN AND GENOCIDAL MEASURESSeriously lol? You are the very thing you're using to describe the tyrannical opportunists we speak about, at least in sentiment
>>730942637If actual superintelligent AI that was somehow alligned to humanity's interests actually existed, it would achieve actual functioning communism. Except:>The digital parrots developed aren't even intelligent>Communists would flip out before letting an AI actually govern>We're too retarded and don't deserve utopia
>>730944460Probably a landlord getting defensive. Or a cryptofag, which might actually be worse.
>>730944514All your underage newfag ass can do is string buzzwords together. Lol.
>>730944615>locking up hoarders, psychopaths and sadists is tyrannyYou just told on yourself
>>730944615ANON GET DOWNHE'S GOING TO TYPE COLORS IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION (+ -OOMER TIP)
>>730942791what does information delay have to do with it?communist just couldnt organize command economies in functional ways and thats the truth
>>730944602ah yes, the mathematical optimization killing millions that commies are often renowned forI'd rather hand you mining picks instead of calculators for any foreseeable future
>>730944514People who're confident in their own Whiteness aren't calling others brown this obsessively.
>>730944658Chang Chong I just want one big landlord named PRC! Now that's progress!
>>730944735>anyone ideologically opposed to me is a hoarded, psychopath and a sadistAs always, the commie reveals his spiteful, dysgenic, envious nature and ultimately peddles communism for the sole purpose of getting rid of the people he doesn't like
now it's samefagging :c
>>730944802If the PRC was actually democratic, that would 100% be better than private landlords. Everyone already rents from the state as it is in the form of property taxes, but at least this way there's no useless middleman taking even more of your money and preventing you from building wealth and thus ever challenging his social position.
>>730944881>so illiterate he can't even remember HE is the one who said capitalism is all about trying to manipulate these exact scum into doing beneficial thingsMy entire POINT is that the awful people YOU were talking about can be death with in ways other than sucking their dicks hoping they won't turn on you. We could, you know, turn on THEM.
>>730945042the issue is there is no guaranteed way that shitheads wont develop again in a community over timethat the problem with human nature and every societyis transferring a like minded morality and sense of reality to the next generationwhat things like religion supposedly attempts to dowhat communism really needs to look at and reassess is the free market and allowing communes to freely produce goods as need instead of directed toall actual exploitation comes from money creationas value can only really only increase through fiat currencywith proper money controls a communist society would naturally develop, as a free market becomes actual trade of good and services at parity (ie labor theory of value) instead of at profit (chasing increases in the money supply)
