Discuss Soulslikes and Souls games, including Code Vein 2I'm also playing through the Archthrones demo as of late. Quite rough in terms of enemy placement but otherwise fun
>>730947223I'm more hyped for this than Nioh 3, which is just an open world nioh 1 mod
>>730947223I'm all in on NRFTW nowModern souls clones have forgotten about area and encounter design, forgotten about movement and weight and commitment, and are increasingly becoming parryslop boss rushes where you stand directly in front of the enemy and press L1 with the right timing
Playing Demon's Souls on PS3. Great game and I see why you guys like this stuff. Which one should I play next? I have ps3 and pc
>>730948604>I'm all in on NRFTW now Is it finished yet?>>730948771Dark Souls, Dark Souls 3 and Elden RingWait for Bloodborne pc emulation
>>7309491583 and ER look like boss fight games which is not what I want. Which later game has spooky expansive levels? I like DeS as a symphony of the night type game
>>730947223I really need to focus on playing Hellpoint one of these days.My favorite Soulslike is Salt and Sanctuary.
>>730949398>3 and ER look like boss fight gamesStop listening to internet brainrot
>>730949521>I really need to focus on playing Hellpoint one of these days. The jank is insane
>>730950371Which later game has more levels like Shrine of Storms?
>>730950628Elden Ring
>>730950821I'll try it thanks. Gotta say I don't see how they can improve on DeS. It's very spooky and dreamy, one of the most immersive games I've ever played. I don't want to switch to the estus flask system.
>>730951274Demon's Souls grass is fucking gay.
>>730950628Dark Souls 3 which notoriously is Demon's Souls 2
>>730951492I like how it's finite and only refilled by farming which is an IRL punishment chore. Feels like a high stakes fuck up when you use a lot of it and then die anyway. They should have lowered the drop rates imo
>>730952293It makes the game easier for the cost of your time.
>>730950371He's right though. I like those games but fromsoft games shifted from challenging levels with challenging bosses to piss easy anecdotal levels with stupidly hard 30 tries needed minimum bosses
>>730947223I bought Sekiro recently after beating DS3. I'm still getting use to this game's control scheme and working away my muscle memory, like not having a stamina bar.
>>730952978>but fromsoft games shifted from challenging levels with challenging bossesFROM never made a challenging level ever since KF1, you were just dogshit at games back then, pre ER bosses are also a joke
>>730947223>many soulslikes>not one does ranged combat or magic wellsigh
>>730952978>but fromsoft games shifted from challenging levels with challenging bosses to piss easy anecdotal levelsFalse>with stupidly hard 30 tries needed minimum bossesGit gud
>>730953259I feel like Remnant is a decent implementation of ranged combat as a souls game. It's just frantic fire fights where you're tying to stem a massive tide of enemies that can fuck you up if they lay their hands on you.The problem is that it has to contend with being a co-op game so some singleplayer elements just feel frustratingly annoying and the actual level design and randomness of the runs felt like a detriment.I've not yet played 2 yet.
>>730953192>>730953671Annoying faggots
>>730953837Not my fault you suck so hard at games you think shit like DS1 had challenging levels, let alone bosses
>>730953259Git gud
>>730949158>Is it finished yet?coop release on the 22nd
>>730955205Not my fault the games are piss easy
>play 1 (one) Chinese soulslike (Wuchang) and it kills my boner for souls-likesHow do they do it
>>730957229Bad combat and bad boss design, and taking the same idea present in a lot of Asian game(monsters are fought one way, humans another) and trying to make the stalest possible The level design is superb as a contrast.
>>730957808 still the best non-fromsoft soulslike game released
>>730958542That title still goes to Hellpoint or Salt & Sanctuary.
>>730953192>pre-er bosses are a joket. 50k hours across video gamesyou are the video games equivalent to the annoying snob who says people who read books for fun are anti-intellectual, bosses dont magically retroactively become easier because you have harder games todayornstein and smough are just as hard for a new player as they were 10 years ago. if video games are "too easy" then you should go pick up something actually difficultgo learn an instrument or a language, stop wasting your time and making shit worse for everyone else because your terminally unemployed ass cant let go of a game you played religiously in middleschool
>>730948771Just keep going in release order. PS3 versions are tolerable but if your PC is decent you definitely want to switch for PC moving forward. I recommend vanilla Dark Souls II over Scholar of the First Sin, personally. Also for Dark Souls 1, if you don't mind using mods, the original release with mods is a better way of experiencing the game for the first time, in my opinion. Remaster has the plug and play advantage, though, and it's decent enough. Just launch and play. Also actually runs better than PTDE modded.
>>730958542>you see anon, this piece of dogshit is better than the other pieces of dogshit because it dried a little in the sun, which makes it taste less rottendude, you are literally eating a turd from the ground
Soulslike I'm most excited for is Lords of the Fallen 2, the 2023 game was excellent, at least the 2.0 release. Liked it a lot more than Dark Souls 3 even.>>730948604I'm kind of worried about content bloat for this game. Still waiting for 1.0 but they keep adding more and more stuff. Pacing is important.Still really want to play it.
>>730959704>t. 50k hours across video gamesYes, but unironically since I'm 38 and have been playing vidya, and FROM's games, before you were even born.Souls bosses were never anything special, it took them all the way until ER and partly Sekiro to make somewhat difficult and well thought out fights, and before that it was barely one step above AC bossfights which were largely straight out bad, nevermind their other games like Otogi, ACE or whatever.>ornstein and smough are just as hard for a new player as they were 10 years agololLmao even>go learn an instrument or a languageAlready did, I'm fluent in four different languages because I live in Europe and worked in the tourism sector since I got out of college decades ago, I fail to see how this is related to FROM's bosses being jokes.You're still shit at simple videogames and should go back to the bucket with the rest of your fellow crabs, faggot.
>>730961226>I failthat's right