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it's insane how no one is nostalgic for classic Terraria
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>why does no one miss having 3 bosses, no content, and needing to jump up 1 block high inclines?
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Classic Terraria was just an unfinished game. What, Moonlord was added in like 2016? I'd say the game was finished then and then the """"final"""" 2020 update didn't ruin anything.
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Terraria's been arguably content complete for a decade
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They don't want you to know this, but you can build a penis in modern versions too.
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Terraria really only got better with updates, nothing added that I can think of steps on the toes of anything else that came previously, certain other games have updates that are sidegrades or even make the game worse
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>>730963998
why would you play terraria when minecraft exists? this game sucks. i played it and i didn't like it. if you like it you are stupid and probably gay
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>>730964253
>this game sucks. i played it
Look at this stupid and probably gay faggot.
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I hate that Terraria ended up becoming a boring bosh rush game.
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>>730963998
The game is basically the same minus old glitches. Like you can just mod out grappling hooks and wings and nothing's changed enough to matter. Wings ruined the game
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>>730963998
damn that lighting is ugly... oh wait it's still ugly to this day lol
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>>730964114
1.4 fucked with enough things to be mildly annoying while also adding some nice stuff.
1.3 was similar.
Each update has felt like a concession of certain things that the player trades away for qol and a lot more blocks to play with.
Not saying the game was ever in some perfect state by any means, but there are some things I miss.
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>>730963998
>its insane how I'm the only 12 year old on the website
Sure is
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>>730963998
i had no clue what terraria was during that time other than various staff members on the SMBX forums having terraria icons or talking about it
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>>730964584
>I make the conscious choice to ignore all the content and speedrun to the Moon Lord immediately, thus it's a boss rush game!
GDQ and its consequences have been a disaster for gaming culture.
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>>730964253
This except the other way around. Minecraft has no content other than bloat and it's an older game. It's actually crazy how much better Terraria is than Minecraft.
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>>730963998
I'm rather nostalgic for the 1.1 era, defeating mechanical bosses, getting wings, collecting souls, going through the same places again but with everything changed because of hallow/corruption and so on felt really different from 1.0.6 Terraria. Felt like the game doubled and it was probably the single largest update, progression-wise.
As for why people aren't nostaligc, the patches were straight up upgrades until recently. Terraria didn't have it's "1.8 beta moment" like Minecraft until ravenshark nerf patch.
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>>730965486
>no content other than content
What is this retarded cope? Open world sandbox is all about optional content. Nobody would give a fuck about terraria if all you did was kill bosses.
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>>730963998
I am nostalgic for classic Terraria. I finished two 1.1 playthroughs last year.
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>>730963998
Terraria has objectively only improved with each update. There's no reason for anyone to be nostalgic for the past.
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>>730965941
>two chairs per commieblock
You spoil them.
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>>730965962
entertainment is not objective
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>>730966009
NTA but I build them elaborate homes in the correct biomes. because i like to
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>>730965753
You mean reavershark?
Yeah, it still hurts, but in retrospect it's better that you can't just skip a big portion of progression by fishing at the ocean.
Fishing is still a big way of progressing accessories though, giving you accessible boots, bottle, balloon, and even wings in the early game. Granted that you might be stockpiling a few crates and save-scumming the unboxing to get the 1/40 fledging wings, but the payoff for accessory consolidation, air mobility and built-in lucky horseshoe is too good.
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>>730965046
Not trying to shit on you, but what things in particular? Genuinely curious
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>>730963998
bloatslop
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>>730966242
>You mean reavershark?
Yeah, I never used it because I didn't feel like fishing for a skip was more fun than just playing normally.
What I meant was that the same update had a bunch of pigeonhole mechanics to force players the way the developers intended. Reavershark, torch luck, npc happiness, meteors falling after defeating the EoW rather than smashing shadow orbs, etc. It was the moment where it stopped being "developers add content" to "developers changing old stuff for the worse."
Let veterans decide how to play rather than force it.
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If terraria still played like launch day terraria and if 90% of the things added to terraria did fuck all, things would be different.
Minecraft nostalgia is fake for the record, just playing both sides, everyone played with texturepacks back then even if the "dev textures" are less ugly than current day ones
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>>730966548
The core progression of Terraria is still pretty flexible, and it's more about strength checks and if you're well equipped or skilled enough to take down the mandatory bosses.
Skeletron isn't mandatory, neither is Eye of Cthulhu, but Eater of Worlds / Brain of Cthulhu are if you want to start mining hellstone.
You can technically skip all of that if you're somehow capable of defeating Wall of Flesh with basic gear, because doing so unlocks the next tier of fishing crates that then opens up the next progression of mining that normally starts with a hellstone pickaxe, since you can get cobalt or palladium ore to get started with their respective mining equipment.

I recall Wall of Flesh speedrun strategies involve bombarding it with molotov cocktails, and you probably want featherfall and antigrav potions, or maybe at least obsidian skin and water walking and the appropriate air mobility/boots accessories.
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it's just terraria with less shit to do
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>>730963998
Why would you? Terraria is one of those games that upgrade on every iteration, making the older version obsolete.
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>>730967068
>everyone played with texturepacks back then even if the "dev textures" are less ugly than current day ones
I miss texture packs not gonna lie
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>>730966251
>>730965046
Do tell, I've only started playing right before 1.3 came out
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2D Minecraft
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>>730967224
it took me less than a second to recognise it
it was such a good series
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>>730967232
One of the big gripes with v1.4 was the introduction of NPC happiness systems.
NPCs either get along with each other or hate each other's guts, and they either love or hate certain environments.
Unhappy residents jack up their prices, happy residents give discounts, and may sell items exclusive to certain biomes.
Importantly, they sell pylons, which let you teleport between established settlements in biomes.

This railroads the player into a NPC management system and building multiple settlements in key spots in different biomes, if they want to take advantage of this system and get full NPC benefits.
Whilst it does encourage the player do more than make a wooden box with every NPC in at at their spawn point, it also makes creative settlement building inflexible if they have their own goals for building a nice big multi-faceted town. It's one thing to space apart the NPCs that don't get along, but they still need to be in their element.
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>>730967224
Everyone does but you don't understand microcock needs 100 different kinds of planks so nobody can reasonably make a texture pack in their own time.
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>>730967224
is this loss?
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Unpopular opinion:The meelee update was good.
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>>730967589
Instead of 1 big commieblock you build like 8 of them all over the map just so the pylons work
Still pretty boring
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>>730967589
>also makes creative settlement building inflexible if they have their own goals for building a nice big multi-faceted town
I don't think a single person ever actually started Terraria with this in mind before the pylon system, mind.
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>>730967850
You'd be surprised, the building autism is pretty strong in Terraria.
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alternate ores were a mistake
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>>730968817
That's why you turn on the mod that makes all ores available in any given world. Pretty easy fix.
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>>730963998
it's like 14 megabytes, I keep 1.1.1 in my current Terraria folder as a throwback mode.
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>>730969007
Not even strictly necessary now that shimmer is a thing.

Shimmer is pretty fun and I'm glad they introduced it. It also makes re-rolling modifiers for all craftable items free, if you're willing to put up with the tedium.
Also just neat stuff like alternate skins for all NPCs, it turns the golfer NPC into a furry for some reason though.
I have never interacted with the golf mechanics beyond using the lawnmower for reduced mob spawns at NPC settlements.
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>>730969239
I like mining it. There's a kind of pleasure that the shimmer just can't give you, and that's taking the raw material out of the ground as it is. I like it.
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>>730969007
racemixer logic.
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>>730969549
Mutt's Law
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>>730963998
Legacy Console Terraria and Modern Terraria are honestly distinct enough to be 2 separate games
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>>730969623
projecting jew.
your racial/ethnic composition comprises edomites, canaanites, arabs, khazar-turks, mongolians and more. your agenda is diversity because you ARE diversity itself.
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>>730963998
Might be because terraria fans arent retarded.
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>>730970273
My nigga I was talking about ores in a childrens' game and you have race on your mind. Please seek help.
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>>730969648
Reverse this, and it's how I felt when the console version first released. Controller support, a map, I think it even had splitscreen. I was like "this feels so different to the PC version". Then Redigit went and added all that and more, minus the splitscreen. Now the console just feels outdated, like a time capsule.
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I miss Fabsol
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>>730963998
dobson won
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>>730964584
Meds.
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the sweet spot for me was before duke fishron was added
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>>730963998
the game isnt a classic it was the jank copy of minecraft, instead of just failing right out the gate it was okay and was forgotten because guess what, someone making a jank copy of minecraft didnt put the effort in to keep it relevant.
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>>730963998
I'm a little nostalgic for the stolen sprite era of Terraria. Funny as fuck that they got away with that for even a moment.
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>>730964584
I can't play Terraria with most of my friends since they treat it as a boss rush game and usually when I come back from mining they all start to ask where my gear is so we can go take on the mechanical bosses already.
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>>730974309
That's starbound
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>>730967068
I miss Painterly and the fun of browsing for different Texture Packs.
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>>730963998
because there's fuckall to do in 1.0
i hate nostalgiafags
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What happened to Thorium?
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>>730963998
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>>730976957
>why can't i bomb ebonstone why do i have to play the game
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>>730977910
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>>730967589
>it also makes creative settlement building inflexible if they have their own goals for building a nice big multi-faceted town
Niggas have to practically live in the same tiny house for them to even register being near each other, and the only npcs who don't like living in the forest are the dye trade and the painter. But if you can't even be fucked to take the time to make multiple towns I doubt youd care to buy from either of them anyway
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>>730963998
>dude old good new bad lmao
I played old Terraria. I loved it. But I'm not a mentally ill retard who needs to suck off older, shittier versions of things that have been drastically improved, either.
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>>730978170
>why can't i craft zenith to curbstomp any post-ml progression why do i have to play the game
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>>730978991
>implying i'm that same guy from 3 years ago
also,
>shitlamity
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>playing overhauls
I will never ever ever ever play kikelamity or gayrium.
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Post yfw you beaten the skeleton boss
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>>730963998
WTF.. the ... FUCK!!!!
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>2010s: Terraria is like Minecraft, but 2D!
>2020s: Minecraft is like Terraria, but 3D!
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>>730963998
I am. The game was best before hallow was added.
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>>730980842
That's the problem with Minecraft, it ISN'T "like Terraria, but 3D". Minecraft's progression, enemy diversity, and mobility progression are complete ass. Moving around, the simplest activity in the game, is NOT fun in Minecraft, but IS fun in Terraria.
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>>730981280
Moving around in Minecraft is quite fun once your world truly belongs to you but claiming even a bit of space like that takes significantly more effort.
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>>730981364
Also the Drowned completely ruined Minecraft and have to be modded out. I don't care what your opinion is on this, it's simply a fact.
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>>730978991
zenith is literal dogshit by the time calamity lets you use it lmfao
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>>730963998
>bloatrarria
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>>730977526
>8 bland townspeople to mostly ignore...
I'd honestly much rather have that than 40 bland townspeople to mostly ignore. If I had to pick one thing I dislike most about modern Terraria, it'd definitely be the sheer amount of pointless "use once then ignore forevermore" vending machines that the game expects you to build housing for though banners are a close second
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>>730963998
I remember when the beta leaked here on 4chan and had a blast playing it online with Anons.
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>>730964584
yeah it was supposed to be a dippy fun cave exploration game with interesting combat.
instead we got people doing afk grinder autism, annoying bosses no-one asked for and everyone using exploits.
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>>730963998
I actually replayed classic 1.0 Terraria last week. It wasn't that good
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>>730982917
What's wrong with banners?
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>>730983734
I hate useless shit that only exists to clutter your inventory in general and banners are 100% pure inventory clutter, personified. Banners also drop directly into your inventory, so you don't even have the option to just not pick it up.
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Terraria
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>>730963998
I never felt nostalgic for alpha, beta, or early 1.0 releases of Minecraft either. And I started playing both in late 2011
I just don't get the appeal, especially with Terraria
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>>730963998
I am, but unlike other games Terraria actually became better.
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Thought this would be a worms thread from the thumbnail
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>>730984369
At least 3 anons in this thread have worms if that helps at all.
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>>730974476
In the next patch they are adding an Aerith's haircut. I saw that in one of their latest gifs showing how the potions will be able to be craft in a menu.
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>the only retards nostalgic for early terraria are agp freaks who have the imperious need to cheese through the game as quickly as possible with absolute minimal effort
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>>730984410
How did you know?
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>>730984026
Banners aren't "useless shit", they give insane damage boost against enemies.
>Banners also drop directly into your inventory, so you don't even have the option to just not pick it up.
They'll have their own menu in the next update.
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>>730985620
That doesn't help me when I'm moving from point A to point B and I get cursed with one because I zapped a bat that flew at me. It also doesn't help me when the enemy is so weak it dies in only a couple hits. It also just doesn't help in general ever because if you can kill 50 of a specific enemy to get the banner then clearly killing that enemy is not a problem.
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>>730963998
I'm more of a Minecraft guy but I don't think that it got as more changes that make you go "ugh, why did they change/add this?" as Minecraft does.
t. played before horses were added in.
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>>730963998
I don't care for the reddit-isms that have crept into the game over the past 10 years. The glut of pets in this game is awful: dozens of useless pets that follow the player (which NEED their own dedicated slot otherwise players couldn't walk around with a light orb AND a red panda), town slimes (some of which move into your town unavoidable through normal progression), and there are town pets that you can get from the zoologist I think (we have to have le wholesome kots and doggos in the game so you can pet them just like your irl furbabbies!)

There's also a furry painting, a brony painting, and a literal r/terraria painting. I'm not going to scrub the wiki for this, but I recall a good portion of the dialog is millennial humor slop full of references (you get the reference, right? laugh).

>inb4 you have a problem with references??? Old games were full of references
Think of references like salt in cooking. Some salt is good, but if you're only adding salt to your meal, it'll taste like crap.

also what >>730982917 said about townsfolk bloat. looking at >>730965941 is painful thinking of being limited to only ~10 chests for a modern playthrough of terraria sounds harrowing. So many more items, which is great for building, but damn we need magic storage in vanilla already

rant over
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>>730988529
>rant over
Man you sound like a massive bitch.
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>>730988529
ok boomer
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>>730963998
>>730964090
>Problem: Terraria is receiving complaints that it's "too bloated" in modern builds
>Solution: Release 1.0! Surely that'll work!
>New Problem: Terraria has two shit builds, one with no content and one with too much filler
thanks Red
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>>730989284
You can play 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3 if you don't want to play 1.4.
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>>730989354
I can also play literally any version of minecraft, current build sucks in that too
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Like a hand in rushing water,
a cool and tangible surface,
like a hand out a car window,
the wind controlling its movement,
like a hand upon green grass,
as you watch it bend in softness,
like a hand touching fire,
every moment leaves a mark,
like a hand in the frozen snow,
your warmth could melt it all,

gently,
slowly,
specifically,
all detail matters,
and every inch is art,
I could tell you about a reason,
to love a moment like this,
but its better left,
unsaid,

for a touch is worth a thousand words,
and pictures just don’t matter anymore,
for only a memory of your touch,
can bring that look to her face,
and that longing,
to her eyes.
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>>730989284
>Terraria is receiving complaints that it's "too bloated" in modern builds
No it isn't
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>>730967589
>Whilst it does encourage the player do more than make a wooden box with every NPC in at at their spawn point
looks like you dont know what the word "encourage" means
for something to "encourage" a behavior, it should actually be giving a benefit without being detrimental to normal expected behavior
i hate when people describe nerfs and negative behavioral reinforcement as "encourage to do something more than x", when it doesnt
it merely punishes you for doing "x"
dont talk like a Riot employee
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>>730963998
why the fuck did modding die so brutally for the game? The only big mod we have is calamatranny
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>>730987461
You're retarded. They help immensely when farming for a specific enemy drop, and for events in general. For example trying to spawn sand elementals in hardmode desert with water candles and a battle potion active. Banners make managing hordes of enemies 10 times easier.
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>>730963998
Wooden Platforms: The Video Game
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>>730991475
>it's overpowered so it's good
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>>730991551
based goal poster mover
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>>730991551
It's good so it's good.
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>>730990259
one of the factors might be simply because it's 2D instead of 3D
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>>730991640
He bigger factor is terraria is an actual game rather than a game engine for people to dump factory autism mods into because there's like no gameplay.
Basically the only hole in terraria's game design is the amount of event spam in post moonlord worlds which is bandaged by it being intentional for you to bring characters into new worlds to fuck around in
And storing weapons/armor/vanity/accessories (which is getting fixed).
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>>730989284
People didn't learn when Runescape did it
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>>730991595
banners embody terraria's turn into a soulless grinder. just make it as heckin' convenientâ„¢ as possible with 999 "enchantments"
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>>730991876
>And storing weapons/armor/vanity/accessories (which is getting fixed).
this sounds incredibly promising
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>>730963998
wikislop
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>>730991876
>storing weapons/armor/vanity/accessories (which is getting fixed).
is it an actual "FIX" or just a literal nothingburger that still needs to be modded
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it's because terraria was shit and minecraft was a better and more popular game
i don't know a single person that even played terraria
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>>730992743
And water is dry.
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I miss Terraria
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I am, sort of. I played it on release both alone and with some friend and I had fun. I wanted to give it a shot again and the amount of bloat is overwhelming.
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Everyone knows that pre-hardworld is always twice as much fun than everything after that.
The gameplay changes from careful exploration, platforming and building
to
rpg build maxing, tedious grind, commieblocks
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>>730985293
It's basically the opposite to me. With weaker mobility options, no pylons and more expensive crafting recipes it feels like I'm spending more time in the world instead of rushing through content.
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>>730963998
Terraria is a shit game capped at 60 FPS.
If you're still playing it, you're a moron.
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>>730967589
YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS
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>>730967224
>Shadow of Israphel
Actual peak, hope they never touch the series again because they will 100% ruin it if they do.
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>>730994378
>he needs more than 60 fps
Spoiled richfag should definitely stay the fuck away from my game.
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>>730994683
fuckin hell man take me back, life was so good back then
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>>730966242
Reaver shark was never a problem unless you are a guide reading min-maxing obsessed retard.
Hardly anyone on their first playthrough will just accidentally sit down and fish and get one by chance. Even if you do, you won't understand right away how to abuse it.
>save scumming
why not just straight up inventory hack

Who gives a shit if you can use it to cheese subsequent runs, might as well remove any other 'cheese' and make the game perfectly linear
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>>730974476
Honestly based, most shit nowadays shouldn't have legal protection anyway, it's why we're in such a creative rut right now and nobody's taking risks/being innovative

When IP gets fucking evaporated you will see a new age of creation
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>>730978220
you have to keep in mind that >>730967589 has crippling autism
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>>730989896
>complaining about too many things you can do in your video game getting free updates
This is propaganda spewed by corporate-owned bots so developers can do nothing and still collect a check from idiots, everybody wants more shit from their games and you're retarded if you think otherwise. Literally why mods even exist

>"Waiter, you gave me too MUCH delicious food!"
>"Teacher, you gave us too MUCH time to complete this homework!"
>"Judge, you gave the nigger who raped my wife too MUCH time in prison!"

Who the fuck has this mentality of "oh it's too MUCH content", this isn't real. When I was a kid I ALWAYS wished my games had more shit to do. I wanted fucking Banjo-Kazooie to have house decorating mechanics ffs, now idiots are begging developers to stop adding content, the fuck kind of retarded timeline am I in
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How the fuck do I beat the mechanical bosses, I can't find enough adamantite for a fucking armor set and my weapons suck, they either obliterate me or they despawn before they're below half health
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>>730995234
>too stupid to mine in a game about mining
You don't beat them.
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>>730963998
Fact: Terraria peaked at the expert mode update
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i don't want to build another plantera arena
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>>730995714
Normal all the way, bay bee
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>>730995732
I ain't digging any more holes.
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>>730995732
The arena's one thing, building the bulb farm is what actually sucks.
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>>730995234
Go break more altars or fish to get more ore. Use buff potions if you aren't. Also keep in mind most of the hardmode ore weapons fucking suck so consider exploring the new biomes and find materials to make weapons that suck less.
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Who /melee infernum/ here?
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>>730963998
Because it was shit but contrariantroons will pretend otherwise.
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>>730995234
mine around the ash layer in the underworld, if you haven't killed a mech boss yet the only things that will bother you are mimics and the hardmode variant of the hell bat so you should be pretty safe mining adamantite
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>>730995234
For armor, use a spelunker potion and skin the ceiling of hell to find the good stuff. Use some mining potions too to speed up digging.
You've probably found a bunch of spelunker potions and stashed them somewhere, if not they're easy to make with blinkroot, gold or platinum ore, and bottled water. Crafting station is either an empty bottle atop a workbench or a potion station.
You should be prepping buff potions like regen and ironskin to help with boss fights too, check out what buff potions you can make by showing the guide a bottle of water, a lot of good potions involve fishing in different biomes.

Wings are an essential mobility accessory for mechanical bosses, and you want a wide open area on the surface to fight Skeletron Prime and The Twins.
A simple arena of a couple rows of wooden platforms stretched in the air usually does fine.
If you want a panic button, build a small hut at the edge of your arena with the Nurse NPC and a bed as your spawn point, which'll let you mirror to safety and get a quick heal in, and then run out back into battle. Don't worry about the Nurse getting hurt, she can heal herself back to full health very very quickly, as long as she isn't under constant attack (an actual problem with somebosses like The Destroyer).

Casually I recommend trying to get a Clockwork Assault Rifle weapon drop from Eater of Worlds, and farming crystals from the hallowed underground to make lots of crystal bullets. These are good for Skeletron Prime and The Twins, whilst The Destroyer is more about using good melee or splash damage weapons, even something like the Adamantite Glaive will work.
Defeating your first mechanical boss will drop hallowed bars, that'll let you make much stronger weapons like the Excalibur right away, ideal for the Destroyer fight.
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>>730995839
Plantera bulbs just tend to happen as a side effect of digging horizontal tunnels throughout the jungle.
Also good for life fruit growing.

The worst part about Plantera arena building is removing the background walls, since those are what dictate enemy spawns that get in the way. You can cheese it somewhat by making sure there's a very large drop from your wooden platforms so your mobs stay down there. Also to get Plantera's bouncy spiked balls out of the way.
You can make it extra cheesy by building an enclosed mob spawner in a corner somewhere, so you hit spawn cap and jungle monsters can't keep spawning during your Plantera fight.

I also recommend putting connected teleporters at opposite sides of your Plantera arena, with gray / brown / blue pressure plates on top so you can just run into them.
It keeps Plantera off your ass pretty well.
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>>730996213
I just build a box underground and kill everything in it. Never used a teleporter in me loif.
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>>730967068
>everyone played with texturepacks back then
nope
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Remove granite.
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>>730969239
>it turns the golfer NPC into a furry for some reason though.
The golfer's sister is the zoologist
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>>730981406
>Drowned completely ruined Minecraft
How so?
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>>730963998
because it literally just got better and better
what could you possibly complain about? every update was just more blocks, more npcs, more equipment, more gear, and more enemies/bosses
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>>730963998
The apache was too OP
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>>730996412
Practically impossible to get them to stop spawning, can't build in or near any body of water without constantly being overwhelmed by them day and night. Spawn rate is way too high, and the trident ones can kill an unarmored character in 2-3 hits, from range. They're anti-fun. Even more anti-fun than pillager raids.
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>>730996469
sounds like a fuckin skill issue dog
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>>730996568
It isn't, tedium and annoyance don't make a game hard you fucking shitlicking nigger.
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>>730996594
I have never had a single issue with drowned
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>>730996749
I don't care about your gay experiences.
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>>730963998
I haven't played Terraria for 7 years according to Steam, I wonder if it's changed much.
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>>730996469
I'm not sure they spawn too often outside of hotspots like underwater ruins, but I do agree those trident wielding ones are a menace. They should at least make it so that the trident doesn't kill your boat. Can't count the amount of times a Drowned hiding in the weeds sniped the boat from under me when I was out at sea.
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>>730995012
It's not "too many things you can do", stop being disingenuous.
It's more like " too many things that play the same exact way but we keep getting more of them", like more swords, more flails, etc. It's not new mechanics it's just bloat
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Yeah I remember playing on the Wii U version when I was younger, didn't even knew that there are bosses in the game
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>>730991876
test
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I'll never understand the circlejerk over Terraria, I've played it at various states over the years since launch (with friends, I wouldn't have even bothered solo) and it's still just as fucking boring as it was at launch, only with thousands more hours of boring, brainless combat oriented content with no real attempts made at making the building/survival aspects fun. I guess if you enjoy really bland skinner boxes, Terraria is the game for you?
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>>730963998
the corrupt/crimson biome spread will never not piss me off I fucking hate it
Terraria is pretty good but mods like Thorium make it A+ tier, it's so easy to make large content mods and it adds so much to the game
unless you download a shitty autistic game ruining one like Calamity, FUCK Calamity
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>>730997253
How could you didn't knewed this, saar?
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>>730963998
LOOOOOL THAT'S A COCK LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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who /summoner/ here
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There was a time when all my son wanted to do was play this on LAN. I know far too much about this shit game.
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early game is boring
i was only able to get through pre hardmode once and it literally took a worldwide lockdown to achieve that
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>>730998156
Way to out yourself as a complete normgroid. The scamdemic didn't change my life one iota.
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>>730998156
Once you know what you're doing pre-hardmode can be done quite quickly, but first time feels like forever.
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>>730964584
its the only reason why its good.
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>>730963998
Any of you have any interesting seeds? The best I have is this one: 3.3.1.1298981846
Enchanted sword shrine, one of the beaches is an island, couple minecart rails, nothing amazing
I had one a long time ago that spawned you on a cloud and I'm kicking myself for not saving it.
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>>730998000
trips of whips
I've finished a Spirit mod Summoner world in December
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>>730994787
you will get more horror winnie the pooh.
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>>730980842
minecraft is a pointless unfinished game that never truly finished its alpha stage.
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>>730995012
kys
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>>730964584
The game is complete when you kill the wall of flesh. Everything after that is just badly trying to be an action game in a framework that can't handle it
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>>730989517
How could Rockcock64 lose so hard...
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>>730963998
1.3.5.3-comer here.

Judging by how textures changed from classic to modern 1.4 I must admit that these are two different games in terms of mood.

Also, Terraria devs and players claim that unlike Minecraft their child is aimed on creativity, meanwhile there's barely no buildings\structures player could get inspiration from. Which is retarted
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>>730999802
>meanwhile there's barely no buildings\structures player could get inspiration from. Which is retarted
adding structures to minecraft was a mistake
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>>730964253
>i played it and i didn't like it. if you like it you are stupid and probably gay
that's pretty much all of /v/, summed up in one sentence
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>1.4.5 launching soon
>meanwhile Calamity STILL hasn't added Yharim
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This is the reason why classic Minecraft is beloved and Terraria not so much; Minecraft moved out of its strengths (using creativity to survive in harsh environment) into awkward positions while Terraria took a strength (bossing and progression) and embraced it.

Minecraft updates muddied the water and more often than not "killed" old approaches to the game. Terraria updates still had plenty of "killing old things" but had an overall sense of direction and gave more things uses over time.
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is there even a developer more based than redigit?
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>>731000696
I wouldn't even drop minecraft that hard from 1.8, it really wasn't THAT big of a deal
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>>730967850
I used to build a big expansive town with brick roads and a house for each NPC.
My 1.3 version of this town had large multistory wooden homes with pointy hay roofs. The starting forest was a valley between two hills so I built small castles on each hill.
I remember that there was a hole in the ground which led to an underground water pond, not too big but not small either. I build a wooden bridge over the gap and then had a staircase that went down. Underground I built the house of the angler with a little wooden dock for this underground lake where he could fish (it was just big enough to actually fish).
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>>731000696
Torch autism wasn't the worst part.
For me the worst of the more recent updates of terraria were the unnecessary crossover content that is completely detached from the rest of the game. Deerclops is a retarded boss that doesn't fit. It is going to be so funny when 1.4.5 finally releases soon(TM) and it has dead cells content long after everybody stopped caring about that game.
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>>731001303
>Deerclops is a retarded boss that doesn't fit.
and is completely skippable
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>>730997253
Doesn't the game randomly spawn an Eye of Cthulhu encounter once you've found a few heart crystals?
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>>731000696
Bullshit graphic. Both nether and caves updates suck ass.
Textures and sprites from Terraria 1.3 suck even bigger ass
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>>730995234
Kill hallowed mimics for a daedalus stormbow or angry trappers in the jungle for an uzi.
You can make a quiver of infinite arrows or a pouch of infinite gun ammo.
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>>731001331
>and is completely skippable
>Deerclop spawns if player has at least 200hp OR 9 defence
>is completely skippable
Good luck building some real estate in Snow during first stages of game without abusing esc+exit.
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>>731001625
Just despawn it
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Why is Deerclops harder than Skeletron with dogshit loot?
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Happiness ruined Terraria for me
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>>731002161
1st - nice town plan on top left
2nd - all 4 has a 50% chance to be fucked up by hardmode V which usually eliminates most of Snow\Jungle and half of Forest
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>>730963998
Terraria became good when they added Moon Lord.
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>>731002161
happiness doesn't stop you or anyone else from building your gay little villas
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>>731001660
Adding more stuff to the game that isn't up to the quality standard of the previous additions only brings the average quality of the game down.
That's what bloat is. The problem is never "too much content" but rather "the new content is worse than the previous one". Nobody complained about the addition of post mech bosses content up to moonlord. I even liked the empress of light and the slime queen and I'm ok with the old one's army so it's not like I'm putting a very high bar. If they make crossovers they should at least try to integrate them with the actual game.
>it's a free update
They can do whatever they want but that doesn't change the fact that they have spent the past 6 years doing nothing with their talent.
They could have called it for Terraria with 1.4 or 1.4.1 and started working on some other game or terraria 2 and by now it should have already been released.
It was only 2 (two) years from 1.2 to 1.3.0.1 and in that time they added:
>crimson
>raining event (with unique music and enemies)
>snow biome (before it was just a christmas easter egg)
>queen be
>plantera
>golem
>reworked underground jungle
>chlorophyte
>pirate invasion event
>eclipse event
>pumpkin moon event
>frost moon event
>13 NPCs (!)
>duke fishron
>fishing
>martian invasion event
>reworked underground desert
>lunar events and endgame
>a whole bunch of armor sets and weapons
And more that I'm forgetting.
That wasn't bloat because those were cool additions.
Compare that to what we have gotten in the 6 (SIX) years since 1.4.1. Hell you could argue that we got far more meaningful content in those 2 years from 1.2 to 1.3 than since 1.3.0 to this day after 10 years.
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>>731002161
>my crippling autism ruined Terraria for me
Fixed that for you. There's nothing stopping you from building a bunch of smaller but equally creative settlements, and you can still just build the thing in the first picture and then one (1) single side settlement for the only NPC for which the discount remotely fucking matters, and then move him there when you need to reforge things. You could even cheat and mod out Happiness easily. But no, you're just an autistic retard who wants to whine about how much better things were.
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>>731001092
Sprinting, hunger, and animal husbandry totally fucked "survival" elements of the game
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>>731002161
I build the upper left because of the happiness system.
you are just a lying retard.
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>>731002161
Ngl, before happiness due to the sheer AMOUNT of NPCs making the thing in the topleft was an impossible feat. At some point you get lazy and have an underground commie block.

Post happiness making more concentrated themes in different biomes made building nice things way cooler. I always make a big jungle tree house, a winter cabin, a seaside port. Center always has the spare NPCs and it's still always a bit of a clusterfuck there, but it's more manageable.

People that get filtered by happiness remind me of gif related
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It's honestly incredible that back in 1.1 we were sure that the game was over just because it didn't receive updates for 2 years. And then 1.2 came out.
Idk how many in the thread were playing terraria back then but I remember that felt like a massive gap and everybody was sure that the game was over until Red came out with a massive update out of nowhere which was quickly followed by many more.
That gap was minuscule compared to the wait for 1.4.9.5 which is just going to be an update with secret seeds and some few gimmicky items or vanity sets.
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>>731002161
money is not a big deal who cares about the happiness
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>>731001625
It literally spawns at midnight during a blizzard, just don't be there then if you don't deal with Deerflops.
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>>731002934
That webm applies to Terraria as a whole if you ask me.

I think Terraria fucking sucks.
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>>731002621
>>it's a free update
Sweet thing about updates is that legacy versions are forbidden to discuss on Terraria forums.
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>>731002161
I used to build commie blocks in terraria and golden palace for dryad. I never knew the perfect commie blocks were horizontal, I made them always vertical.
Nowadays I actually do try to make pretty buildings that fit the biome. Like a big cozy cottage in the ice biome, or a temple in the sand. The biggest downside being the extremely unsafe environment. They should've made happiness only a positive feature.
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>>730963998
Terraria isn't very good. It's like every other survival game you pump through the bosses with your friends then you move on. This genre is obsolete now that friendslop exists.

I don't know why it gets compared to Minecraft. They're not in the same league. They're not even in the same universe.
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>>731003292
quick rundown?
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>>731002161
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The best thing about happiness are the pylons. Makes teleporting a billion times easier
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>>731002934
There doesn't even need to be that many NPCs. For starters, you could condense all the cosmetic NPCs into one.
They are also already able to expand their inventory upon milestones, so you could combine a lot of the others, as well.
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>>731002621
newsflash, everyone likes the "bloat" and everyone has their own personal requests for some additional "bloat"
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>>731003943
Nah it's building the tower of shoe boxes pre 1.4 and 3 ontop post 1.4
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>>730963998
What do you guys usually do when designing Terraria characters? Do you make them original OCs, base them off of some existing character like I do, or just randomize everything?
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>>730965268
>ignore all the content
What fucking content? After WoF the game's literally just grinding for bosses.
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>>731004060
>everyone has their own personal requests for some additional "bloat"
99,9% of player suggestions are ignored by devs.
>>731003943
I used to build real estates even back in 1.3.5 times. But you know what introduce of "happiness" did not change? Every npc still does not give a fuck of how much shit you place around it. Its "happines" is bounded to pure distance numbers between other npc and its chair\table\torch\door
>>731003496
official tool to run legacy vers had been abandoned before 1.3 came out.
Those who are after legacy sure would like to import some features from newer versions, including newer mods.
To do this one must decompile source code of up-to-date versions along with legacy versions.
Doing this "breaks" numerous ass laws about digital copyrights\intellectual property ownership and so.
Also, those who would manage to obtain source code sure would like to help other modders by merging and compiling legacy and new code together which means that theoretically some people could "pirate' the game.
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>>730963998
Terraria was always shit trannyslop that required you to follow a meta from start to finish. The OST was always ear-piercing hipster shit that is on par with coon tunes where the bass is cranked up.
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>>731004805
I missed my guy off of the character somecallmejonny made https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eSV0GO1Q3Co&pp=ygUcc29tZSBjYWxsIG1lIGpvaG5ueSB0ZXJyYXJpYQ%3D%3D when I first played when I was 7 or 8 years old and it sort of just sticked
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>>731004805
one of my favorite characters was making my PC look like cave story quote and then grinding to get the hat
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>>730964253
Because Terraria is a game with sandbox elements, not a full sandbox with no game like minecraft.
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>>730963998
I am. Terraria circa 2012 was better than Minecraft in every single way.
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>>731004805
I've been making the exact same oc terraria character since 1.1
>slightly pale skin but still human looking
>long blonde hair
>green eyes
>dark blue shirt
>brown trenchcoat
>bro with the guide, friends with the demolitionist, wizard and merchant, hates the arms dealer for being a cunt (and a nigger) so his "home" is an underground prison
>lives in a house with all the hotties (npc happiness ruined this so now he just lives with the party girl and princess cunny)
But every time I start a new game I make him a bit older. His prime with long hair and beard was probably about late 1.3.
Last time I played he already had white hair.
Next time I will make him bald and with a long white beard, maybe finally lay off the trenchcoat.
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>>731004972
>I used to build real estates even back in 1.3.5 times. But you know what introduce of "happiness" did not change? Every npc still does not give a fuck of how much shit you place around it. Its "happines" is bounded to pure distance numbers between other npc and its chair\table\torch\door
Okay but with the volume of NPCs they introduced it became more and more difficult to balance my own particular desire to build nice things and the ever living clusterfuck their presence introduced.
If only there was a way to make builds that weren't monstrosities by spacing them apart and also not requiring to redstone teleporters between them all to make the spacing not so aids inducing.
Oh hey what do you know.
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>>731006089
Kino.
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Game is kino right up until it becomes a boss rush and exploration dies
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>>731006731
That's the good part, though.
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>>731004903
Absolutely. If you ignore the Hallow, Crimson/Corruption spread, new invasions, Hardmode town NPCs, new items to farm, Hardmode Jungle, Post-Plantera Dungeon, Jungle Temple, Biome Mimics, upgraded Blood Moon, updated fishing loot drops, Hardmode Ores, the second and third tiers of the OOA, etc., then it's just a boss rush!
All my playthroughs last 100+ hours and bosses only take like 4 minutes to kill at most, but it's definitely just a boss rush game!
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>>730964253
theyre completely different games but low iq niggas see squares and think Minecraft
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>>731007456
>but low iq niggas see squares and think Minecraft
notchjang invented squares thoughbeit
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>>731007348
nta but on a conceptual level all you do between bossfights is get ready for the next boss fight
>items, enemies, new places
all just to make damage number go up so you can kill [next boss]
how much do you play post moonlord?
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All the pre-hardmode nerfs are just pointless anti-fun changes (what the fuck does stopping me from using bombs to clear a meteor accomplish holy shit) and I think a lot of the original block graphics look better than the new ones.

Other than that the game just kept getting better and better.
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i'm just mad they added farts and poop jokes everywhere but GOD FORBID they let me have sex ingame without mods
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>>731008420
There's plenty of sex jokes though.
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>>730964253
Minecraft is just Legos for people with no irl dexterity. It's a kids game marketed to uncoordinated autists. Terraria is an actual video game
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>>731008584
What the fuck do you mean, "dexterity"? Why would you need dexterity for lego?
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>>730963998
What game?
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Given how woke they're making 1.4.5 do you think they'll remove the PMSing female NPC dialogue during the blood moon?
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>>731009080
periods are woke
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>>731008693
Are you implying that tasks performed with the hands don't require dexterity unless they meet your arbitrarily defined threshold? What's the threshold for which we should measure dextrous tasks? Does writing take dexterity? Masonry? Sowing? Construction? Tell me what you think dexterity means
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>>730966242
Reavershark was based because it offered an alternative route and progression if you went out of your way to do fish faggot shit. It would've been cooler if they kept it as it was but made it rare, forcing you to progress fishing quests for more fishing gear and better odds. Maybe add more fishing quest shit and bosses, and expand the ocean biome too.
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>>730963998
Why would we be nostalgic for a game we still actively play? 1.4.5 releases in like a week and even before it's coming there's 50K of us active this second on steam.
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>>730989284
It is bloated. I wish they'd just start on a new terraria with only new content but the same base
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>>731009268
Saying "lego requires dexterity" is technically correct, insofar that it also requires being alive - which is a very low bar if you take it literally. But when you say "something requires dexterity", you generally mean to say that it requires a considerable amount of dexterity, which lego does not do.

So, to answer your question:
>Are you implying that tasks performed with the hands don't require dexterity unless they meet your arbitrarily defined threshold?
Yes, that is exactly what I am implying. Saying "doing the dishes requires dexterity" is a weird thing to say just because it is technically correct.
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Complaining about bloat is such a nitpick and people overstate how much of a negative it is.
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>>730967589
>>One of the big gripes with v1.4 was the introduction of NPC happiness systems.
As a longtime player, this is your autism speaking. Happiness has almost no net effect at all, it's just a super minor incentive to create themed worlds. If you ignore the system entirely (which is trivially easy) you're almost always just the same as before because the minor discounts and price jacks will cancel each other out.
>Importantly, they sell pylons, which let you teleport between established settlements in biomes.
Yeah and that's something where if you want a pylon you take 1 minute to place an NPC somewhere that makes them eligible to sell it. That's preferable to the many things like NPCs only selling specific items during bloodmoons or other niche situations that we already had.
>Whilst it does encourage the player do more than make a wooden box with every NPC in at at their spawn point, it also makes creative settlement building inflexible if they have their own goals for building a nice big multi-faceted town. It's one thing to space apart the NPCs that don't get along, but they still need to be in their element.
Dramatically overstating it. Someone building for creativity doesn't care about a 5% cheaper store, they're dumping tons of resources into their world's cosmetics already just by building something more than commie blocks.

If they removed happiness as a system I genuinely wouldn't notice outside of them needing a new condition for pylons.
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>>730990215
You flat out don't know what you're talking about, you are encouraged by the system through the discounts and pylon access. those are not nerfs, they are strict buffs if you take advantage of the system.
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Pylons were a great addition, travel is slow
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>>730963998
Terraria is a timewaster
Is not good, fun or well made
It just occupies time while talking with your friends on your summer break from school, so no one is nostalgic for it
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>>731004903
There's literally all the content before you claim it was "ruined" and then 10X more content. They went out of the way to add silly minigames like golf, and 1.4.5 is adding a lot of gimmick toys like the RC Car which is not just something you can make fun stuff with, but also a really nice scouting mechanic since it can drive on walls and let you see into caves and shit you don't want to risk your character to enter blind. The building aspects are better than before, the exploration aspects are better than before, and lots of cool mechanics like Shimmer have fucking nothing to do with bosses but still got added for fun cool possibilities.
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>>731009439
>implying a considerable amount of dexterity
No I'm implying the autistic individuals who play minecraft are so bereft of irl ability that they resort to playing electronic legos. You would have easily reduced this insult if you weren't fucking retarded. It's actually now doubly ironic, you being too stupid to realize you are the butt of the joke, and not understanding the caricature I'm making in my statement
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>>730988529
thank god I'm not a stick in the mud that hates fun. bitching about shit like pets and paintings is cringe as fuck. this isn't an mmo, you're not forced to see any of that shit.
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>>731010054
Excuse me
>reduce
Deduce*
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>>731009080
They're what? Unless they're removing all the innuendo too that seems unlikely.
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>>730998156
ironic, early game is the most fun part imo. it's exciting to enter your first caves, knowing that whatever shit is in those chests will be your lifeline for potentially hours. the boring part imo is once you have enough resources that you just make and have whatever you want and progression mostly becomes a straight line of whatever build you like. I enjoy being forced to use a magic boomerang or random shitty bow or climbing gear because it's all the game has given me so far.
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>>730963998
The only thing I miss is being able to get meteorite earlier. It was cool but now it's cooler.
They never had a game-ruining update. I guess because they haven't really gone and reworked the early stuff rather than expanding outward.
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>>730994787
Get out of here, Sam Altman.
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>>730963998
>No one
I'm nostalgic for classic Terraria up through 1.2.4. Every time I replay Terraria I can't help but feel the game has gotten worse in some regards. I earnestly think that the game should've ended at 1.2.4 and Redigit should've moved on to working on Terraria 2 instead of 1.3 or 1.4.
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>>730988529
>AIIIIIE I PUT FURRY ART ON MY WALLS AND BOUGHT A CAT AND NOW I LOOK LIKE A FAGGOT
Well you already sounded like one so maybe try not doing that. I'll be out playing the game, little miss dollhouse.
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>>731001303
>For me the worst of the more recent updates of terraria were the unnecessary crossover content that is completely detached from the rest of the game.
pretty autistic. it's detached specifically so you can ignore it, you would just bitch louder if it was crossover content that was mandatory. if you don't want the don't starve stuff it's trivially easy to never see it. we're not even paying for the updates, ignorable content is the best way to preserve the core game.
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>>731004805
Hit random until I get nice colors and then pick a sprite and hair I like
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Why did modded Terraria die?
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>>731010915
Because you chopped off your cock and changed your name to Susan
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>>730979187
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>>731001625
It is completely skippable. you're not forced to build real estate in snow during the first stages of the game, in fact there are plenty of reasons not to do that outside of deerclops. The standard experience is just building starter homes in the forest or just barely underground until later in the game when you have pylons and enough npcs to use them.

>>731002621
>Compare that to what we have gotten in the 6 (SIX) years since 1.4.1.
Counting years is irrelevant when talking about free updates to a non-live-service game. Since 1.4.1 there's only been 3 actual updates, and all of them were good imo.
>Hell you could argue that we got far more meaningful content in those 2 years from 1.2 to 1.3 than since 1.3.0 to this day after 10 years.
Yeah no shit retard, it's not a live service game so the expected amount of updates a decade after launch is 0 or 1, not many.
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>>730984594
SOUL
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>>731002161
You don't need to larp, literally none of the serious builders stopped because of happiness. the series builders have a better time than ever because the game gives more tools over time. 1.4.5 is adding literally hundreds of additions for them like placeable critters. craftable dungeon blocks, rollerblades for faster platform placing, new tools like the rubblerouser that make cosmetic tweaks possible, ect. happiness is for autistic retards that will minmax the entire game for 5% discounts on items, it has 0 impact on people spending tons of resources on making impressive builds that don't benefit them in any way.
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>>731004972
>99,9% of player suggestions are ignored by devs.
that's just flat out wrong. saying something in an anonymous 4chan post isn't a "player suggestion". if you say something in a place devs can see it, sometimes even just twitter, they might go out of the way for you.

we're getting a shimmer watergun in 1.4.5 specifically because someone requested it in a random tweet that wasn't even aimed at the devs. that's 1 of many examples, because if you used their official forums you'd find out that the devs directly talking with players and saying "that's a good idea" is very common.
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>>731002161
a bunch of neat houses spread across the world have a lot more soul than an urb*n brick shitbox at spawn
you're a lazy nigger
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>>731008247
>>how much do you play post moonlord?
nta but most of my playtime is post-moonlord. that's when you have all the resources you want to build fancy villages and terraform the world however you want without worry about ruining areas for bosses.
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>>731008420
>I can't believe the rated T game didn't go for an AO rating because I'm a degenerate coomer that can't go 5 minutes without touching my cock
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>>731012343
>Forced soul
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>>731012551
forced soul is better than willingly soulless
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>>731011435
>99,9% of player suggestions are ignored by devs.
There was a period where they were taking player suggestions in a regular xitter thread, and Red would reply to ones that got implemented. The Don't Starve collab also happened from a Reddit QNA asking which game they wished they could've collabed with, a dev answering "Don't Starve", one of DST's devs also happening to be in that QNA by total chance, and reaching out to Re-Logic immediately after to make it happen.
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>>731010189
the guy is larping because he lives his entire life as a crusade against whatever fox news tells him is evil.

1.4.5 is actually removing the gender from the character creator, aka trannies can't self validate by having the game call them women anymore. It's a big win for the players because all it actually means is more customization options, especially for hurt sounds which you can now freely pitch shift. that's a huge win for multiplayer, you can tell which of your friends is getting hit by sound alone if everyone is customizing their hurt sound. As far as dialogue goes, there's almost nothing in the game that uses gender, in fact the original game didn't refer to it at all, but there are 2 or 3 things that will be obviously be tweaked like genderswap potion now that gender is not a part of the game again.
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>>730980842
>2026: Hytale is ike Minecraft, but 3D!
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>>731012667
How can Klei devs be so based and proactive and then go on to produce a game like fucking Don't Starve Together, which has more features sitting around orphaned and kinda pointless ever since their initial introduction than Minecraft?
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>>731009580
it's not even a real complaint, it's just a buzzword people spam because it's reddit tier humor. unironically it's like how reddit spams quotes to The Office and shit, the joke is just "people heard this before and now it's my turn to say it".

Modern patches are anti-bloat anyway. There's more items sure, but they're adding tweaks like weapons with the same prefix stacking, and things like pic rel as a free storage for your banners in your crafting UI so they're no longer randomly dropping and taking up inventory space.
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>>731009853
yeah it's the 7th best selling game of all time for no reason
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Do previous worlds and saves work when a new update comes out?
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i've tried terraria overhaul mod and i like its movement system, it's all weighty and fast
but it gets fucking raped by bossfights due to them being balanced around a more flatter and linear system
wish they reverted to vanilla movement when a boss is alive
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>>730963998
Once I realized that building a house out of mud was just like building one out of gold I lost interest in building.
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>>731004972
>99,9% of player suggestions are ignored by devs.
You can't have your cake and eat it too. either bloat is bad, or player suggestions are good.
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the raria
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>>731013098
Usually, but they won't have most of the new content since that most placed in world creation. If they have something big up their sleeves there might be some parts of old worlds that get weird, like if for some odd reason they shrink evil biomes while speeding up corruption then old worlds with already big corruption would be kinda fucked. unlikely though, they are aware of what old worlds are like so they'd try to avoid fucking them too hard.
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>>731013334
cosmetics are le cosmetic? shocker!
there are fuckloads of things to build that have functions and matter, the materials the walls are made of is mostly cosmetic because it would be stupid to have it so everyone needs the same materials for worthwhile housing.
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>>730963998
Terraria sucks.
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>>731013839
Okay. Then don't play it.
I'm having fun, though.
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>>730963998
>Cannons and Snowball Launchers can deal damage when activated by Wires.
The only change I care about, can't wait to build a stronghold with multiple stationaries for events.
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>>730963998
I was wanting Starbound to replace it so bad but that became a trainwreck and I don't really care much to go back to Terraria
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>>731015114
desu the spoilers list has 100 different things that will be "the only thing I care about" for some players. there are so many great changes in there, a lot of niche little improvements that make the game a lot better for the group that will actually notice the change.

I'm pretty hype for the palworld stuff, having pets you can direct to assist in non-combat tasks is kino. I wonder if they'd have one that fishes for you.
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>>730977526
who care about console kidde controller support lmao
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>>730977526
>QoL? More like SoL
kek
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>>731015294
>I wonder if they'd have one that fishes for you.
probably, you can tell one of their focuses was pets that do work. Even outside of the palworld pets, they added ones like this axe fairy that will chop trees for you when it's not in combat. given how little palworld stuff we've seen, and the focus that IP has on creatures that work for you, there's got to be plenty more of them that do brand new stuff.
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>>731015689
usecase for that fairy shit when axe of regrowth rapes trees and can be had pre boss?
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>>730963998
There are heaps of tutorials on how to play old versions, they're not GONE
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>>731016256
It's a flying combat pet which means by default it is useful in all the ways any other flying combat pet is. On top of that it harvests for you passively unlike axe of regrowth, there are still tons of niches it might fill. If it doesn't break the trees then it's unlimited wood without waiting for the new tree to grow unlike axe of regrowth, and if it can hit gem trees too then it's unlimited gems, ect.

it's much better than yet another combat pet that only does combat.
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>>730963998
Why would I be nostalgic for it?
I had some fun back then but looking back it was fucking dark days.
Especially with the split content autism.
>mobile gets to have 2 unique bosses
>Console gets 1
>BUNCH OF ENEMIES SPREAD EVERYWHERE AND YOU GET UNIQUE WEAPONS AND YOU GET UNIQUE WEAPONS AND YOU GET UNIQUE PETS
I wonder if they'll ever add the valentine arrows back from mobile or the holy hand grenade. Those were fucking OP.
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>>730994683
How could they even bring it back?
The best parts of the series were Sjin (Israphel) trolling Lewis and Simon

Also Lewis himself said he was going to tie it all together, Yoglabs, SoI, whatever minecraft series they were working on.
Then one day he kind of had a panic attack at realizing how stupid of an idea this all was, and decided to never touch SoI again.
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>>730989896
On /v/ it is a complaint.
You should see how often they were bitching about golfing, kites and stuff like that.
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>>731016571
>I wonder if they'll ever add the valentine arrows back from mobile or the holy hand grenade. Those were fucking OP.
Likely, but they'd get balanced to fit the modern game. 1.4.5 is adding stuff like the 3ds Orca to PC, maybe they've added some of those other things too.
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>>731016684
/v/ doesn't have complaints, it has bitching and moaning over nothing. when a schizophrenic rolls on the floor of a mcdonalds screeching that they need their mulan nugget sauce because of rick and morty, that's not a complaint. same situation here.
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>>731016473
Axe fairy looks like a neat toy, but trees regrow so quickly and provide so much wood, that it probably doesn't have a tangible benefit over periodically visiting your timber plantation.
I mean you'll probably have one near your spawn point settlement, and axe of regrowth and placing some dirt makes it easy enough to make one.

Axe of regrowth is an amazing example of QoL, way better than having a hamaxe.
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>>731012856
You're not fooling anyone
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>>731016935
the benefit is completely passive wood without any setup other than equipping the pet. it's going to chop trees as you explore.

does it warp the entire game? of course not, and it's not trying to. it's a neat toy that does something nothing else in the game does.
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>>731016935
>spawn point settlement
do bitches really live like this?
i put a mushroom pylon at spawn, turn it into an arena and pick some nice place to build a house in
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>>731017039
I'll accept your admittance that you have no argument and can't counter the basic facts presented.
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>>731017132
The basic facts are that the dev team specifically removed gender to appeal to Twitter troons. It's a completely unnecessary change that just complicates character creation. If it absolutely had to be added, it should've been in an "advanced customization" drop down.
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>>731017239
>It's a completely unnecessary change that just complicates character creation.
So what you're saying is you're not smart enough to handle a pitch slider? It is too complex for you to wrap your head around? Because that's the only "complication" added.

You're seething because fox news tells you gender is a boogeyman you need to fear 24/7, not because having dozens of voice options instead of everyone sounding the same harms the game in any way at all.
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Imagine if they spent the 6 years since 1.4 launched working on Terraria 2. It could've already launched and had its first major update by now.
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>>731017508
and nobody would care because everyone would still be playing the superior Terraria they already owned.
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>>731012856
tldr: bunch of tranny shit

I want my character to be male
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>>731017484
It's something that didn't need to be added in the first place, makes the character creation process worse, and only appeals to trannies. Making it more complicated doesn't make it harder to understand.

And you shitlib retards don't understand anyone in the center/right if you think they're watching Fox News.
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>>731017605
>tldr: bunch of tranny shit
It's funny how the only way you can avoid rejecting your worldview is by covering your eyes and ears at all evidence and just spamming the same generic nonsense.
>I want my character to be male
sounds like you're obsessed with pronouns, faggot
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>>731017508
You are quite literally the only person in the world who gives a fuck about a potential Terraria 2.
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>>731017567
That's not how that works at all. People switch over to sequels all the time (as long as they're good). How do you think Sid Meier's Civilization 5 has more players than Sid Meier's Civilization 4, and Sid Meier's Civilization 6 has more players than Sid Meier's Civilization 5? People who are nostalgic for the previous entries still play them, but most people who like the series moved on to the latest non-dogshit game in the series.

That is to say that Sid Meier's Civilization 7 is so bad people still prefer VI because it isn't totally wokeslop and has great gameplay, visuals, and music while running well even on low-end PCs.
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>>731017567
>quantity is quality
>nostalgia bad btw
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>>731017642
>It's something that didn't need to be added in the first place
that applies to every single feature added to the game, they're added to improve things not because they're "needed"
>makes the character creation process worse
an extra slider you can optionally touch that leaves you with the identical experience you currently have if you leave it on the default value makes the character creation process worse? elaborate. I'll wait. what part is worse, can you not mentally handle having options in your sandbox RPG? did you shit your pants and cry when Skeletron dropped an item that changes your hurt sound?
>and only appeals to trannies.
So only trannies care about the audio in the game? Manly men like me should be forced to have your little boy twink sounds? I'll pitch my hurt sounds down because the option existing is based.
>Making it more complicated doesn't make it harder to understand.
A single slider is soooo complex. How will you ever handle it?
>And you shitlib retards don't understand anyone in the center/right if you think they're watching Fox News.
Nobody that doesn't watch Fox News obsessively is seeing Terrarria add more voice options and losing their mind about trannies.
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>>731017786
Terraria has 64 million paying players, and it's a game about customization and building shit with a decade's worth of bonus options. There is no reason to make a sequel because the game is perfect at being exactly what it wants. Any changes big enough to justify a new title everyone has to pay for again would be more likely to make the title worse, not better.

One of the core aspects of Terraria is that it wants basic graphics that look retro and will run on a toaster. It's not Civ where you need to see the wrinkles on Ghandi's ballsack skin to justify a sequel existing.
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>>731017804
sounds like you can't read
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>>731017895
>did you shit your pants and cry when Skeletron dropped an item that changes your hurt sound?
yes, my mom got really mad at me when she had to do laundry that night and I got a 2 day timeout from video games when I explained it. this update ruins terraria, my mom is gonna make me pay for new pants again...
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>>731018097
64 million copies sold =/= 64 million players.
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>>731018097
>One of the core aspects of Terraria is that it wants basic graphics that look retro
<v.1.3 is about retro.
>v.1.3 is about general fantasy slop with sword shooting comically large projectiles.
R.I.P. true melee.
Also R.I.P. horseman's blade
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>>730963998
>100% all items and bosses in the game
Been there, done that.
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they really overbloated this fucking game with scrimblo materials to the point where new players will have an insanely hard time getting into it. Ever update was made with long time players in mind without thinking about the repercussions of what that'd mean for people who aren't giga autists who didn't no life every fucking new update.

Tried to show the game off to a buddy and he wanted to give it a shot. after some trouble shooting and getting our server running, we found the worlds it kept genning were so fucked up with metals we couldn't yet use and the fucking spreading biomes being way too close. They really thought more was more.
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>>731018821
1.4.5 comes in 10 days, more shit to find and do.
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>>730966242
>reavershark to skip content
Potions plus bombs and a stack of platforms will beat every prehardmode boss including the wall.
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>>731002161
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>>731017895
>that applies to every single feature added to the game, they're added to improve things not because they're "needed"
Which is why this change was unneeded. It isn't an improvement, it makes the game WORSE.
>an extra slider you can optionally touch that leaves you with the identical experience you currently have if you leave it on the default value makes the character creation process worse?
Yes, removing Male/Female does in fact make it worse. Not just because it makes the game woke(r), and thus worse, but because it also necessitates the removal of other minor features just to appeal to trannies. Not to mention making the character creation process more unintuitive.
>So only trannies care about the audio in the game?
Yes, only trannies and chasers care about doing away with gender. That's why every game over the past year has opted to just go with male/female options, including some that added them back in with an update like Lords of the Fallen.
>A single slider is soooo complex. How will you ever handle it?
A single slider that didn't need to exist and just complicates what should be a binary choice.
>Nobody that doesn't watch Fox News obsessively is seeing Terrarria add more voice options and losing their mind about trannies.
You say that as if you're not in a BlueSky bubble. That's why you think everyone who opposes you is some 60+ year old (the actual audience for Fox News)
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>>731018825
>they really overbloated this fucking game with scrimblo materials
which ones? you can hand anything to the guide to see what it's for and sell it if you don't want what it makes.
> to the point where new players will have an insanely hard time getting into it.
nah, 1.4.5 is going to have the best new player experience the game has ever had by a longshot. The improved NPC systems and crafting systems will make playing the game blind without the wiki way more manageable.
>Ever update was made with long time players in mind without thinking about the repercussions of what that'd mean for people who aren't giga autists who didn't no life every fucking new update.
It sounds like you just have no clue what you're talking about. A lot of the 1.4.5 stuff is very specifically for brand new players, like pic related being an easy convenient way for new players to figure out about valid housing. NPCs will straight up tell you what kind of housing they prefer if you ask, and you get a description of exactly what a house needs. they even cut needing solid flooring from the housing requirements so noobs don't get tripped up if they build using platforms or something.
>we found the worlds it kept genning were so fucked up with metals we couldn't yet use and the fucking spreading biomes being way too close. They really thought more was more.
Again this reads like you have no clue what you're talking about. A standard world has a single spreading biome when you start, and there is no "too close" because you have the entire world map to do anything in. If the evil biome is close to your spawn... build houses slightly away from spawn. pre-hard mode, corruption can't even spread to most materials and spreads extremely slowly, I doubt a new player even noticed spreading unless they played long enough to no longer be a new player.
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>>731019303
>Which is why this change was unneeded. It isn't an improvement, it makes the game WORSE.
nah, it's a strict improvement. the game is identical if you don't touch the slider, which only impacts the game if you want it to. you have no argument against this.
>Not just because it makes the game woke(r), and thus worse,
cute buzzword but "woke" is not a thing. It's just a word fox news uses so you can call something evil without actually having to explain what is bad about it. it has no actual definition or meaning past "I was told not to like this".
>but because it also necessitates the removal of other minor features just to appeal to trannies.
hypocritical given you were just whining about features being unneeded. so now you're the woke freak that thinks the game NEEDS genderswap potions so you can live out your tranny fantasies?
>A single slider that didn't need to exist and just complicates what should be a binary choice.
Factually incorrect, the choice is no more complex you just have a good amount of options instead of a shit amount of options now.
>You say that as if you're not in a BlueSky bubble.
I'm on 4chan faggot. Let me guess, Fox News told you to hate BlueSky too?
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>>731002161
does your world explode if you don't make npcs happy or something? pirate army drops items that you can turn into the credit card for goblin discount so who cares
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>>731000696
minecraft is just a shitty unfinished game and its not great in any version.
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>>731002161
I think it's really cool because it promotes settling across the overworld instead of keeping everyone confined to you base in the middle of the map.
It's cool with the teleportation. I just think the whole system is needlessly confusing though.
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>playing mediumcore
>died during goblin army in hardmode
>keep getting raped until i ragequit, can't even stay alive for more than 10 seconds
pylons fucking suck the moment you can make teleporters
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>>731019610
Wow, it's like I'm talking to an actual Reddit Mod
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>>731020014
it's always funny how when the npcs run out of scripted dialogue from their fox news programming, they just swap to generic ad hominems and act like that's a replacement for having any actual argument. concession accepted.
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>>731020003
deserved for being dumb enough to play mediumcore
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>>731015219
but Starbound is good and complete
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minecraft if right wing so go play that
terraria and hytale are both left wing and based
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>>731020298
they didn't even bother porting controller support to pc after releasing the game on console.
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>>731020298
It's one of those at best and that requires me to be generous.
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>>731020209
it's more fun than hardcore and i don't like the extremely low stakes of softcore
it encourages more tactical gameplay and i like it
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>>731020318
based and true



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