Across any period of timeMusic is also a matter of aesthetics btw
>>730975236my bet is obviously on Warcraft, but I have to add:It already began in vanilla WoW.In terms of grit you could even argue warcraft 3, but at least samwise didier was an honestly talented artist
>>730975236Aesthetic? It has to be Warcraft. It really is just lame and gay now.In terms of overall franchise downfall though I'd say Command and Conquer. C&C4 literally killed it.
How do you go from this...
To this?
Or from this...
To this??My favorite fucking IP is gay and cringe now
Dragon Age
>Its another thread complaining about the lack of edgy aesthetic or brown n' bloom in 2020's vidyaFirst you faggots complain about it endlessly on here and now you faggots miss it, there is no pleasing you is there.
>>730976012thank god that never came out
>>730976012Getting rid of that iconic girl was so retarded.
>>730976056>nooooooooo leave the capeshit fantasy alooooone
>>730975236Marathon.
>>730976056>edgy???Warcraft 2 is edgy to you zoomers?
>>730976109>>730976127Its a poetic image really.Lets break it down, bit by bit.>the elven sorceressIn the first picture, she wears white and gold. The white symbolizes purity in many cultures, and gold is obviously regality or royalty, suiting a wizard. She is not wearing armour, she is wearing a loose garment , exotic, yet its not just a bikini. You can tell shes some sort of high sorceress. The dragons bright red tail circles around her feet, like a portal. Her hairstyle- elegant. Her features- nordic or classical european.The second picture has her wearing blue and black. Not a horrible colour combination, but on first glance you cant tell its the same character anymore. Its because shes wearing armour. Not an elegant sorceror's dress, but armour. Like a marvel hero. Its like the tacticool trend for superhero costumes, but for fantasy. Her hairstyle is a basic "let your hair down" situation, and her features are more akin to the botox lips and cheeks of modern instagram models, or more accurately, warcraft women. The weapons "look cool", but they do not make her look as elegant or regal as the previous depiction. Perhaps the pose is a bit better than a woman coyly looking at the view, but its the only positive.>The dragonThe dragon in the first picture is a direct interpretation of the words "winged lizard". It is long and slender, with a narrow mouth, and has bright red scales which could be mistaken for rubies at first glance. The glowing blue eyes contrast against these.The second picture's dragon, is a brute. The dragon's maw is now thick and ogrish, the noble visage marred by exaggerated features which attempt to make the dragon look more organic and less like the magical beast it was, with a muted colour scheme and unglowing eyes. Its tail does not even circle the sorceress's feet, which makes me believe that each of these characters were drawn as separate png images added to a pre-rendered background.Cont.
>>730976012>>730976109>>730976127>>730976282Cont.>the trolls and the knight.Something interesting i noticed in the first picture: the paladin looks just like a crusader. Red cross and everything. Of course, the name paladin comes from an order of crusading knights, but after so much of tumblr tier paladin OCs ive seen, its strange to see one that derives from the original source material. His armour also, while being a derivative design, shines like purest light on the battlefield, which really sells the idea that its some sort of holy warrior on a mission.The second piece of art doesnt even have him, or anything that striking, really.Then comes the trolls. In the first picture you have two demonic looking creatures, massive torsos and gaunt arms, snarling at the heroes and glaring with glowing red and yellow eyes. Their armour is chainmail and cloth, form fitting. They look hulking and menacing, just as scary as the troll myth was to the ancient norse.The modern one? They arent even trolls in the strictest sense. One looks furry, the other looks more like a bearded orc. Huge bulky blue armour , conveniently hiding the actual frame of the creatures. Its one of the reasons i believe that the lack of soul is also a skill issue on part of the artist- all the characters have very basic posing in the new picture. Cartoon-like proportions. Cloth material doesnt really hug the bodies of the characters like in the first picture. Even the stones in the background dont have the weathering the original picture had. The unimaginative designs are not only the fault of a piss-poor imagination, but the artists own lack of skill to draw complicated designs and have better posing. Thus the original trolls lurk and seem like abominable threats, while the new trolls fumble in heavy plates of metal.Contd.
Chat gtp niggas ruinin every thread
>>730976012>>730976109>>730976127>>730976282>>730976321Cont.>the dark elfThe original dark elf has very dark skin. An exotic black dress with even more exotic jewellery hanging from it. Almost african. The red eyes and white hair contrast well with the dark colours, and with the faint electricity emanating from her hands, makes her look like a crazy witch ready to strike.The new dark elf is not a dark elf. Its a dark elf cosplay. The skin tone is ridiculously lighter, and doesnt contrast as well anymore with the red eyes and white hair. She wields a comically large knife instead of electricity. A detailed red and black cape is replaced by basic edgy skull armour. Her jewellery is replaced by a cheap bikini. She looks like a cosplay babe, not a mystical creature.>final point : colour.I think this is the biggest problem. Whether it is the muted reds of the dragon, or the unrealistically vibrant green of the grass compared to its original green like colour, and even the skin colours of the individual characters- its all awful. There is plenty of vibrancy, but no contrast. Its like a pride flag- all the colours in the rainbow, but nothing blends together.Ironically there is more diversity and less "revealing" designs in the first picture. You'd think that the opposite of that would excite anons. But alas, bad colouring, bad posing, poor character (re)design, and the obvious nature of the png characters placed onto a prerendered programme is what renders this SOUL-less.Thank you for coming on my TED talk.
Castlevania
That new HOMM art style is a travesty.
>>730975997The people in charge of design don't understand the art deco aesthetic that was all the rage during the the 50s in America. That's how you get that shit.
>>730976278those wc2 illustrations totally were
>>730976353Hope that was a copy and paste.
>>730976282>>730976321>>730976353All of this can easily be explained by the fact that the original Everquest art was made by Keith parkinson of all people (best known for his DnD art in the 1980s - the high time of high quality fantasy art; alongside Elmore and Caldwell) and the other one was made by.... who the fuck even knows?It's not even a matter of "le old good le new bad"There is such an insane powergap between those who were traditionally trained and those who got into the field after digital painting took over, it's just fuckin unreal.
>OLD GOOD>NEW BAD
>>730975236You posted it
Halo
>>730976621Wasn't this the same period when Frank Frezetta was active and making all kinds of top notch fantasy art work?
>>730975236This isn't a aesthetic downgrade. It's literally a dead game. imagine if I replaced football with chess game...
>>730976558That's not particularly edgy by the standards back then.b/w fantasy art was mostly about the heroes getting ripped apart in a few seconds
>>730976636top is a single consistent peice of art, bottom is a bunch of individual images cobbled together because they shit artist only knows how to draw in photoshop layers. the characters are even looking at each other, the dwarf and goblin remind me of the force perspective vin diesel meme
>>73097655890s/early 2000s edge is cool and fun and anyone who disagrees is a faggot.
>>730976782I think frazetta was already active earlierHe never really associated with regular fantasy artistshe sure loved drawing plump tiddies making him less ad friendly i guess.
>>730976636Bottom is clearly inspired by WoW with the exaggerated body proportions and tiny heads.
>>730976840>>730976914damn fucking straight
>>730976919As far as art goes though, he's gotta be one of the best for the genre. Kind of like how any time I think of the big DC heroes, I picture them in the Alex Ross style. So impressive that I'd put it in a picture frame and hang it from the wall.
>>730975236>cover art meant to induce you to buy a game in an era before video games even had advertising Vs>An iname model you're meant to look at for 45 seconds when he gives you the intro quest to fuck off to new expansion island. Maybe compare it to Khadgar's ToD sprite.
this is the one I'm always thinking about when this topic comes up lmao
>>730976012>>730976636Both of these are good examples of how video game aesthetics wrapped back around to influence general fantasy artworkThe top images in both comparisons are drawn by classically trained illustrators who know how to look at things in real life and then render them in artwork. Everything in Parkinson's Everquest cover from the faces of characters to the trees/mountains and random weapons and clothing accessories is realistic, even though the scene itself is pure high fantasy. Those kinds of detailed, proportional designs couldn't be rendered on early computer hardware though, so Warcraft and other games made more cartoonish versions, exaggerating important features to make them noticeable at low poly count and resolution. Those exaggerated designs then became the norm in the minds of the audience, leading to traditional 2d artwork that emulates them.
>This appeared in Newspapers once in the comic sectionIt's kind of odd that Bill Waterson was doing shit like this. Makes me wonder what are they teaching art grads today that they can't do similar work as a newspaper comic strip artist.
>>730976012I'm getting tired bros...
>>730977394>>730977546>ThenGeneric for the time>NowGeneric for the timeNothing changed
>>730977394>1987soul>1988-2023soulless
>>730975236why is the orc a pirate?did orcs also manage to invent the concept of a pirate or did they steal it from humans?
>>730977620>Then>Generic for the timeI'm having a hard time thinking of video game boxart similar to Xanadu's from 1985 or earlier.
>>730976914
>>730976923>WoW invented body proportionszoom zoom zooooom
>>730977546>>730977394Anime had a general problem with aesthetic downgradesthough Adol is probably a bad example
>>730977636>why is the orc a pirate?cause the big selling point of warcraft 2 was naval battles.
>>730978162It's from something modern artists brought up in the era of computerized art would be more familiar with, dumbass.
>>730976012The original everquest is aesthetically so insanely good it's fuckin nutsAnd i am not even necessarily refering to the visuals, but the whole world is worked out with such detail it's actually crazy.Just go to YouTube and look for everquest lore videosThere is a ton of content behind every tiny area and its woven into the look of it all
>>730978162No, reddit. Not everybody you disagree with is an -oomer boogeyman. (The oldest zoomers are almost certainly older than you though)
>>730977071>>730977150Sad how age ruins people. He became such a corpo.
>>730976012Genuinely funny how several women in the original are less "sexualized" yet look better.
>>730979043bottom is from the early 10s iirc, before "wokeness" and mass desexualization of women in fantasy and video games
>>730977245The Everquest cover was done by a black man, not half white, pure black motherfucker.
>>730979308And he makes a 5-head black magic man who's staring right those elven titties. Man knew what was up.
>>730975236Warcraft: Creativity into Quotas.The game lacks any inaginative bone and the last 3 expansions came from a different failed species. It fucking lies about the title as I've played it and there is Zero war anymore
>>730976012>gigantic troll necromancer weaving evil magic into form to defile the bones of the dead and spread misery and pain>chad paladin lets him know what's gonna go down without a single word, just fucking points at himWhy is just pointing at someone like that so fucking cool every single time
>>730976636>cartoonishly large armor and weapons So ugly
>>730975868Even ignoring the monstrosity of random shit tacked on, this looks absurdly heavy compared to a regular-ass rifle.
>>730979773You could even translate it directly to the game in that he's drawing aggro, too.
>>730975428>you could even argue warcraft 3yes
>>730977271>Makes me wonder what are they teaching art grads today that they can't do similar work as a newspaper comic strip artist.they are teaching them to be more gay and retarded
>>730979996damn this image is over 10 years old now
>>730979996Imagine how bad it's gotten now
>>730980168So it's presumably gotten worse as standards continue to lower.
>>730975236In all seriousness, why not just use a real wheelchair? The model is right there just make it not an illusion. What's the issue? Why did they feel the need to make it out of magic?
>>730980301You don't have to presume just look at the current animation industry, or what's left.
>>730980342His mage girlfriend made it for him and he decided to use it to make her happy.That's the reasoning.
>>730980301I looked it up and here's a new one from the art school website
>>730980410Which means she could have make something more impressive than that, or more functional? Is there a reason she based it off a wheelchair that looks like it's falling apart?
>>730980491>>730979996I don't hate all post-modern or abstract art but all of these pieces suck except maybe bottom left in the original image (although it's kinda hard to see since it's small)there were way better sculptures laying around the art department at my local uni
>>730980604There's no reason. It's just a woman moment that the writers over-looked when they decided his girlfriend made it for him.
>>730980635So they "unintentionally" made her into an idiot. Typical Blizzard writing these days.
>>730980491I'm not saying this is the work of some bankers actions, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was.
>>730980491Are those fucking popsicle sticks?
>>730976012>getting rid of the nigga raceerm racist much??
>>730977271
>>730981272IIRC Everquest 2 just made Erudites purple instead of enlightened niggas, but I just interpret that as they got so smart they turned themselves into grape drank.
>>730975236warcraft always looked like shit. american Warhammer fantasy.
>>730976541it's not art-deco. ironically that's the bit bethesda injected into the series.
>>730975236Why did you use the box cover art for top and an ingame screenshot for bottom?
>>730976782Love that nigga
>>730976558metzen is a talentless nepo kike
>>730976636Would.
>>730983556Race is made up and Disney was working for Jews anyway.
>>730983760Found the kike
>>730985531Zionists believe in race. So you are doubly wrong.
bump
>how it started
>>730988119>how it's goingYes, I know PSO is far from the first Phantasy Star game, but it has the most iconic aesthetic
>>730975236>Comparing the cover to a major npc.Come the fuck on. I have issues with Wow aestetically but this is disigenous.
>>730975236KEEP ROLLIN ROLLIN ROLLIN
>>730988157You should have posted the even more sterile NGS.
>>730975868pipe weapons look shit too
>>730975236sad times
>>730975812>>730975868nevermind that, go check the fallout 1 intro and listen to the soundtrack, then pick any Bethesda fallout and marvel at how they annihilated the feel and atmosphere (f2 arguably did that too)
>>730975236rune factory, it went from a Harvest Moon game to a gay Genshin clone
>>730975236Warcraft died with wow.Draenei is the only good addition though.
>>730978781iirc he became a dad and some kind of religious type
>>730975236Pretty much any long running franchise you can think of: CoD, Battlefield, DnD, Warhammer, LoL, Warcraft etc.
>>730976012They’re honestly both kind of shit.
>>730975236
>>730983760The same Jews he was allegedly anti-semitic towards? If I was Disney and had a reason to hate all small hats, it was that they were deliberately smearing his company and trying to make a bunch of commie backed unions with the sole intent of tanking his company....which they're doing, it just took a very long time to do.
>>730976636>old>a consistent image>new>everyone is posing in a vacuum
>>730977110man I need to know where to get american comics, I want to read kingdom come again
>>730977394WTF is 2016-2023?!
>>730976282>>730976321>>730976353This is AI.
>>730993287still true
>>730975236Killing Floor - I already hated the direction KF2 went after 1 and 3 is pretty much the death of the franchise as we know it.I'm glad that KF3 seems to be flopping worse than a dead fish and if we're lucky Tripwire won't last the year and finally shut down.I don't want them to butcher the Red Orchestra franchise if they ever got around to doing RO3.
>>730992845When exactly did WoW stop taking itself seriously?
>>730993630It never did.
>>730993475KF3 is what you get when you remove all the quirks that made people like your game in the first place. What if people actually LIKED it being incredibly British with slang that you'd only understand by being a britbong?
>>730992845Was this ever actually used for anything or was it just entered by some rando in an art competition?
>>730993424The filter on the modern one is awful
>>730993762I think it was used as card art for Hearthstone.
>>730993630I think Cataclysm was the worst offender, I remember the reworked early undead zones being full of self-aware Joss Whedon humor.
>>730975812>Generic copy of a real weaponvs>>730975868OCThey're both very poorly modeled guns, you can't make a favorable comparison here.
>>730993630A non meme answer from someone who quit in 2014 but has seen alot of the cutscenes from then to now: its actually taking itself more seriously than ever. WoW wants to be a themepark mmo but also a serious, serialized, soap drama about “nuanced” characters with depth and struggles. Like a Hollywood production almost. But these characters have about as much depth or gray morality as Dora the Explorer. Its actually fucking funny trying to see modern Blizzard take a bunch of cartoony, heavily stylized orcs and humans and believe that they’re making the next Sopranos but for fantasy.
>>730975428This.Fallout also comes in mind.>>730976056>frogposters are retarded zoomersMore news at eleven.
>>7309773941989, and maybe 1993 is the point of no return.
>>730975236Blizzard have lost their talent decades ago, when they started to hire artists that could only do "blizzards fanarts" instead of having their own style. Everything became long ears and purple because that was their favorite warcraft 3 loading screen
>>730977394i like 1993 aesthetic best
>>730976012top has so much soul, I want a game that captures the feeling of those old fantasy paintings
>>730989623dragon using pronouns doesn't really shocks me, it's a common trope in fantasy to have ugly creatures talking in a mangled way that shows that its unperfect translation
>>730976012Is the top one a painting or is it something like pastels/colored pencils? That alone is the biggest important difference. Digital Art is almost always soulless.
>>730975236I like the idea of the WoW aesthetic I just feel we're at a point where WoWs requirements to run on literal toasters is probably detrimental to what the art style should be doing
>>730975236Pokémon moving from stylised watercolour worlds and design philosophies to generic clean cut anime is a blanket SOVL - Soulless divide
>>730997842You can crank wow visuals and it's not that terrible for how old the engine is in some ways.
>>730989623Going from the Classic/TBC realms in 2021 to playing Dragonflight stuff in 2025 was whiplash for me
>>730997901They're doing new watercolor art with fat pikachu for the 30th anniversary and it's amazing.
>>730976012I hate the Warcraft/Warhammerification of Fantasy so much.
>>730997952Yeah I get that, it's more in the character models and the animations - the world design is largely on point. Saying that we're in 2026 and I don't think I've seen a decent child character in WoW
>>730997842Wow/WC3's comicy Samwise art style is unironically easier to replicate in 3D than something like realistic graphics, it was already done in low poly and even kind of holds up. The issue is that the 3D artists abandoned any understanding of where the aesthetic came from which was classic fantasy & metal. Now it just looks like a mobile game about fantasy instead of a 2000s comic book about it.
>>730993630it actually started taking itself seriously which is the problem
>>730998029Yeah, I get it though. They did a refresh once or twice on character models but that's a lot of shit and annoying to redo repeatedly on top of basically always having to make a new "toaster" level.
>>730977394>we want the fujobucks
>>730998118>>730993630Warcraft was never particularly serious and they loved to break out some gags and humor from time to time.What actually changed was that they abandoned the simple tagline from this magazine (which was before WoW's release even) and made it about lore n shieeet instead of the core appeal being might & doing great deeds. WC3 was a serious story with some gags and it's well remembered by most who played it.
>>730977394only one Adol for me.
>>730998350>WC3 was a serious story with some gagsYes until the frozen throne came out and shat all over the tone. I fucking love the night elf soap opera bros!
>>730976012hey wha happen
>>730998720No... They're all gone.........
>>730998720I wanna be therehttps://youtu.be/kr1wdi0txdM?si=oHDoaWOlsCTa_Jmw
>>730983760TRVKE
>>730975236literally whats the difference. why the fuck does the orc have a gay ass earring and nose ring?
>>730976012
>>730999573>topofficial art>bottomsome commissioned art for some dork's campaign
>>730998350>>730998118>>730994053>>730993852I feel like there's a big difference between the humor wow had in wotlk/bc/classic and shit like >>730992845There's just been a complete pussyfication of the franchise and even the fantasy genre in general.I miss when the nerd scene wasn't mainstream.https://youtu.be/cxM5QAWtIls
>>730976056Goomba Fallacy.
>>730999909>>bottom>some commissioned art for some dork's campaignThe "art" from the new D&D version is even worse.
>>730983760>Race is made upFalse>Disney was working for Jews anywayTrue
>>730976890To be fair, top kind of looks like the elf is going to backstab the dwarf (who didn't watch himself).
>>730977394>red haired animu faggot turns into a red haired animu faggotNo... oh no...
>>730977271I loved Calvin and Hobbes as a kid and had the collection books with lots of author commentary. Despite the comics being intended to be in daily newspapers I found it much better to read them in collections.What shone through even to my pre-teen self was that being a newspaper comic strip artist is a shit gig that was barely doable already back then, and that Bill was possibly the most true-to-his-values individual I have ever known of. He just flat out refused to monetize C&H through licensing or making anything other than comic strips, just quit when he felt like it was done and was never heard from again. Compare to e.g. Garfield.To have someone with that level of talent and refusal to compromise on his values working in a dying industry that was soul-crushing even at its peak is just not something I think we'll see again.
>>730975428>you could argue wc3You really could not you deluded retard.
Cyberpunk. Going from barbie stuff to cp77
>>730983556
>>730976202Marathon always looked like cheap shit. It ALWAYS had the most soulless prerendered weapon and enemy designs.
>>730983760As much as modern science likes to dance around the issue and use all sorts of euphemisms to disguise it, it fully proves the existence of race and distinctions between races.
>>731001589>Erm ackshually it always looked bad, chud
>>730976016Absolutely this. From dark fantasy with lots of gore and body horror to tumblr fantasy with the same tone as fucking care bears
>>730975236https://x.com/ShitpostRock/status/2012452332777185516OP just got famous.
>>730989926Yet another retard exposing himself as a fake fan.
>>730975236Monster Hunter going into p3rd from Tri.
I'd say Guilty Gear
>>731001718Yeah it did. Compared to the SOVLFVL digitized models of Doom it looked cheap and soulless.
>>730977071>>730977150Back when orcs weren't all just hulking giants with bad posture. I hate what they did to our boy Grom
>>730993424it look me 2 seconds to find crash on the bottom screenshot. the visuals don't pop at all.
>>730975236Heroes of Might and Magic
>>730975236PokemonMonster Hunter CoDWarcraft
>>731002767is there a word for when something becomes so popular and influential it itself becomes generic?because that's what modern blizzard is to me.
>>731003416British/General European culture.
>>730976441Yet Rondo of Blood is fine?
>>730977110>Alex RossThe guy such faggot over copyright
>>730975236"Which is best, to draw from nature or from the antique? It is better to imitate the antique than modern work. But painting declines and deteriorates from age to age, when painters have no other standard than painting already done. Hence the painter will produce pictures of small merit if he takes for his standard the pictures of others as was seen in the painters after the Romans who always imitated each other and so their art constantly declined from age to age. But if he will study from natural objects he will bear good fruit"Leo noticed this problem up back in the 1400s. Doesn't change anything but I thought it was neat. I believe this applies to a degradation of game design as well. It's all so boring now.
>>730975236These threads are just OLD GOOD NEW BAD memberberries seething
Which touhou is classic?
>>731004875
>>730988119>>730988157I only give a shit about Phantasy Star 1-4.PSO is space clown looking bullshit
>>731002116Why would you defend RF 5 and Fags of Azuma? Genuine question
>>731007849>implied fallacyConcession accepted! It just keeps happening.
>>731007927Trying too hard, here's your (You)
>>730976012Bottom looks better. Uncs have no taste.
>>731002116it's funny because the modern rf games were made bt a different studio, you are the fake fan if you slurp that slop
>>731007927>eerrmm you don't like the new aesthetics? fake fan!!>but hey i'm not defending it...fuck off
>>731008172>another fallacyAnother concession. Too easy.
>>730998350Enemy Ghoul
>>731008457>how did you know I was trans
Reminder:>Everything you thought was cool when you were 12 is what is actually cool: Arnold, war, metal, huge boobs; all of it.
>>730977394these all look like shit
>>731008685its millenials that hate that shit and view it as toxic masculinity, nice tranime picture btw
Blizzard shat the bed dramatically.Both Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 were WoWed to death.
>>731008754Millenials are the ones who were 12 back then, and they are largely the ones who like it still.Yes, it is a nice anime pic. On an anime website.
I hate how everything modern wow looks so goddamn flat and has muted colors.
>some taiwanese make gacha out of it>look fine beside the hair color>nips: let me butcher that shit real quick
>>730976202The hell lmao
>>730975236Warhammer 40K is going that way hard and brutally. Femstodes models are confirmed.
>>731008754I'm a millenial and I love that shitNot all of us are faggots
reminder that all the people that made wow good and soulful got kicked out in early vanilla when the influential devs realized the game would be a big success and inserted themselves in their place
>>731002767they reused garrosh's model and now every orc looks like garrosh, the shit movie also had out of control horde fanboys making the orcs twice as big as they should be
>>731008685arnold turned out to be a liberal faggot and terrible person
>>730976012You can't even blame this on woke
>>730985765every race believes in race
>>73097523640kModern shit is a mix of Starcraft and WoW
>>731008087deleting the nigger ogling the blonde instantly makes bottom better
>>730977829
>>730975742C&C4 killed the franchise because the gameplay was ass, not because of visual changes from 3
>>731013409>Deuce Sex
>>731002410Up to including Xrd it's fine. Strive is where I have my gripes.>>731002767I hate what Blizzard did with Orcs in general.OK, they could be hulking mountains of muscle, they are Orcs. Considering the place they come from and where they live now it's logical since they should be build as if they would be capable of ranching a dragon with brute force alone.But I will never understand why they had to make them so damn hunchbacked.>>731013290Don't get me started on those damn Primaris and the fact that woke retards wormed their way into GW and they are ruining everything.
>>730975236>Using boxart against an in-game screenshotNow show in-game warcraft 2 screenshots
>>731013791>that woke retards wormed their way into GW and they are ruining everything.Yeah, to be fair GW has hated their own fanbase even before the woke trannyfaggots, you can tell they are almost gleeful that they have a good angle to utterly ruin the setting.
>>731014024Thing is, they know that they cant go TOO far, you can feel the want to but cant. Look at Age of Sigmar for fuck sake, its a complete joke. People know what 40k is SUPPOSE to be, and they cant get away with just having every promarch be a black woman who is also a lesbian. The setting wont let them. This is the real reason why there is push back to female space marines, it would open the door to this. So they just did it with custodes... and even though noone fucking buys them they have used "they can be female" as validation to make every important character a female with them. Fucking clown shit, I want out of this modern media creativity sink.
>>730993992why not just copy real gunsall the old fallout games did that, even the kitbashed guns were clearly bit and pieces of real guns. in Tactics you were using Mac 10s and AK-47s. Why would anyone develop some stupid looking chonk of an assault rifle when weapon tech was clearly parallel to real life
>>730993992The FO4 rifle is arguably more creative, but that doesn't make it look good
>>731014183>Fucking clown shit, I want out of this modern media creativity sink.Same.
>>730981492communism never ever
XIV has really nice concept art from the early days but I figured in game would be enough
>>731013290At this point they should commission Mossa to do some promo art or book covers or something. Just 2-3 pics to make reddit boil
>>730976202oh no no no no ha ha ha ha
>>731014323>more creativeYeah, but I'm sure grok can slop out something more creative than fucking bethesda at this point
>>731013463>not because of visual changes from 3Why do you come here and lie?
>>731014463GW is reddit itself in case you haven't noticed.
>>731014549This isn't even in the game.
>>730979043>less "sexualized"Low T.
>>731013791orcs should be starving and skinny considering they're niggers that ruin any place hey go
>>730977394>87's logo almost makes a halo behind his head like a christian saintKINO
I'm gonna be honest, I think Warhammer fags deserve everything GW does to them because they were obnoxious for decades.
>>730975236It's weird that people talk about Warcraft as if it only turned to shit recently. The last good game in the franchise was Warcraft 2. After that, there was the unreleased, but extremely woke adventure game with that gay orc, and then they went full retard with WC3, basically turning it into a woke Disney adventure. It was already completely fucking gay by the time WoW came out.Oh, and both WC3 and WoW looked like absolute shit. WC3 in particular should not have been 3D, given how ridiculously ugly it looked.
In what way was Warcraft 3 a "Woke Disney adventure"?You're saying words with no regard for the meaning of them.Also Warcraft 2 sucked ass because it had too much naval combat.
>>730977394I like how by the end he's just that guy from Re:Zero.
>>730992845>>730993762>>730993843Reminder that this was literally based on a retard roleplaying as a orc peon on social media and taking selfies of himself everywhere, and it was advertising for BFA at that time.
>>730977071>>730976840>>730976558I wish I had an example handy but my buddy had a Warcraft (not sure which) manual with this black and white art and I’ll always remember the illustration of some ogre or troll holding a horse after just taking a cartoonish bite out of it’s back. They really don’t make them like they used to and I didn’t even play the games growing up due to being a poorfag/parents thought anything that wasn’t stock on a pc was riddled with virus’.
>>731014720What is is still pretty ridiculous and unappealing to look at.
>>731008754>tranimeThe shartranny is a retard.Also there are 3 generations of MillenialsThe Originals who were born at 81-85 aka the people who grew with good shit early on like transformers and he-man, got prime boomer made stuff, and didnt got the widespread brainwash at colleges at the late 90's.The Barney Boys aka the 86-90 kids who's parents put them to watch barney 24/7 til they became fags, grew up watching the worst garbage ever and caught the shittiest brainwashing shit ever from cynic gen-x ers and puts fags like Joss Wheedon and J.J Abrams on a pedestal, these are the fags you see mostly as trannies nowadays, these are the people who ruined everything you love out of spite due to the hardwired brainwash of barney.And the Zoomlenials/Proto-zoomers/Late millenials aka the 91-96 kids who some were lucky enough to be taught later by G1 kids who despises gen 2 millenials and hates them for ruining everything they love, these are te people who are leaning right hard thanks to barney kids and got zoomers on their side because zoomers grew to hate barney kids too.Barney kids are the fags who sees everything problematic these days because their brains were so brainwashed by barney, care bears, get along gang and MLP that they all deserve the scrutiny they got.>>731013791>>731014024If you want to pinpoint fingers on WHO is to blame, look at ADB and Gav Thorpe, for the social media side, see Alfabusa's TTS once he abandoned /tg/ for redditards and he became friends with one tranny who larped as a sister of battle at his pisscord, and talking about the creature resulted in a ban.
