Will all yokai from nioh 1 and 2 return?
>>730983720I would assume that most if not all of the normal yokai will return.
>>730984263Why?
>>730984391Because that's what they did for 2 so they're usually keen on reusing enemies. But who knows, maybe some won't return.
>>730984953I really hope tesso come back
How is wolong should I play it or just wait for Nioh 3?
>>730985267After all the updates it's not bad and DLCs have some of the best boss fights TN has ever made but you probably won't finish it in time unless you nolife it and if you nolife it instead of doing a few missions a day it can get boring fast.
Are tesso, waira, mitzumi yazura, bakegani, nuppepo, and oboroguruma coming back?
>>730983720of coursewhy wouldn't they do it the easy way
>>730983720>newfags makes a boss tier list>"ERM I THINK LADY OSAKABE IS A GREAT FIGHT">"NUE IS A BAD FIGHT BECAUSE I DIDN'T LEARN HOW TO FIGHT HIM EVEN THOUGH HE HAS A LITERAL GLOWING WEAK SPOT"It's not buildfags I have to keep worrying about, it's these fucks too
>>730985393Better play it after nioh 3 then, thanks anon.
>>730983720I want to see more Yokai bosses from Nioh 1 make a comeback with new moves and updated VFX. 2 had a severe lack of Hino-Enma, Yuki-Onna, Ogress Joro-Gumo and Onmoraki. Giant Centipede and Umi-Bozu can stay locked in the shed.
>>730985556I don't think there is a single person on earth who likes the gimmick bosses in Nioh.
>>730983720ahemFUCK TENGUFUCK TENGUFUCK TENGUFUCK TENGUFUCK TENGUFUCK TENGUFUCK TENGU!!!
>>730983720In the Steam screenshots we see that Nue is coming back at least. I really want Yasha to come back myself.
>>730985670I'm pretty sure I saw two youtubers who thought otherwise
>>730986363Your wish has been granted
>>730986867Nice. Anything on Mezuki and Gozuki?
>>730987104Mezuki was an optional field boss in the alpha. He had some new moves.
>>730986020Tengu isnt even bad in 2. Its that weird nigger Tengu from the 2 DLC that I hate
>>730985267Extremely good game, probably the only one where the boss actually feels like the one who dictates the flow of the gameplay. It's a very fresh and unique experience having to deal with every single thing the boss throws out, which I know doesn't sound unique when it's written out but you'll understand when you play it.>>730985670I like them, but they're obviously at the bottom tier.
*cough....the dlc....any day now,....
All those janky bosses from Nioh 1 can stay in the past/spit
I hope Nioh 3 will have cute kunoichi npcs in it
>>730983720Yes because tn is a asset flip studio who only know how to copy someone else work
>>730983720I wish there's a few western sets in it, rise of the ronin opened my eyes on thisBtw how is everyone feeling on the ninja thing?
>>730983720>will team ninja, the recycle king of japanese video games, recycle old assets?!
>>730988784You say this, but Nioh 2 is missing a lot of boss enemies from Nioh 1.
>>730988301name 3
>>730989391NTA but Umi-Bozu isn't bad conceptually. Its execution in Ocean Roars Again was just genuinely, painfully awful and should never be repeated.
>>730983720>We got fat bird tits cameo in Nioh 2More importantly. Do you think we will get another Dead or Alive cutie in Nioh 3?
>>730989546I've turned around on him, he could be better but it was a decent fight. Too much time wasting on him jumping over the platform tho
how are anons feeling about Nioh 3? i tried starting 2 a couple times over the years and got filtered but last week i tried again and it finally clicked for me. this game is fucking KINO of the highest order. easily one of the most satisfying combat systems ever and i'm still trash at the gamei'm planning on playing as much as i can, jumping on 3 at launch, then going back to 2 once i finish 3
>>730989642combat is probably going to be fine as long as the enemies are fun to fightninja mode is probably be ignored or vice versa (or used more for utility)I don't expect the level design to be DS level of exploration or mario levels of platformingit's probably going to be goooooood
>>730989642Personally I'm concerned about the removal/reworking of omnyo magic and soul cores. Though I'm still willing to give the new system they made a shot. I'm more worried about performance since Rise of the Ronin had some issues on pc that I don't think have ever been fixed.
Are they in?
>>730989642It's going to be awesome.
>>730989642It's my most anticipated game of the year. I've been waiting for more Nioh since the last samurai dropped and complete edition came to PC. Wo Long and RotR ultimately couldn't satisfy in the way that Nioh did.
>>730985267Its good parryslop just dont go in expecting it to be Nioh. Some great bosses like the other guy said.
>the living weapon in 3 gives you a whole-ass fantasy tokusatsu suit straight from Garo
>>730983720> Better than every Dark Souls game.> As deep as the ocean.It's sad that Nioh is unpopular and that the game doesn't have a good Wiki (the best resource is YouTube). Even this thread is unpopular, and it's the fastest board on the site.
>>730994858Doesn't bother me. As long as 3 is also good and we get our dlcs for it. I don't imagine I'll be buying any other game on release this year since everything else looks like shit.
>>730993760I want a tonkatsu suit
>>730994858>Its unpopular And that's a good thingPopularity is a double edge sword
>>730994971I want to get a PS5 or a better PC because of this game. Nioh scratches my Ninja Gaiden itch (I was playing UN until my PC died), and it has RPG autism.
>>730983720I hope they finally have slutty outfits. Like 80% of the armor in the previous game is just samurai armor.
>>730985670Lasy Osakabe is good. I like the pacing that is set by the tentacles, I like the visual and audio cues to their attacks so I don't feel like I'm being attacked by enemies I cannot react to. I used spear and odachi so I didn't struggle to hit them either. Her being a big castle yokai wife is cool. I could have done her fight with my eyes closed just audio cues and yokai bursting the tentacles.
>>730983720Im playing nioh 2 rn and just finished the depths but it was only possible cus i used an easy build idk how its possible without one
>>730989642It is Nioh 1.5
>>730995110Try with fists or tonfa or sword. Idk why they didnt account for other weapons lol
>>730995069fuck off back to gacha, this is a real samurai simulator
>>730995160I also used tonfa and 1kat. I never feel like I had any issues with her. The most important thing was yokai bursting and that usually laid the tentacle out on the ground, making it trivial for all weapons. Yokai abilities did a lot of ki damage to them as well.
>>730989592Nyotengu is the only one that makes sense to appear because she's canonically a thousand-year-old tengu. Nioh 3 would have to go to the future for anybody else showing up to make sense.Nyotengu might reappear, though. No reason not to reuse their old bosses if they're already doing time travel stuff.>>730994858It's unfortunate that fextralife is what it is but the wiki is pretty good for Nioh 2, actually. People have uploaded maps and stuff and it has acceptably-formatted lists for things like weapons and skills, and most of the info for stuff like optional mission requirements or what enemies are where, drop mechanics for depths graces and stuff... it's not perfect, but considering the platform and the relative size of the community, it's pretty good.
>>730995069I hope they at least copy the outfit creator from Rise of the Ronin. having a separate cosmetic layer saves a ton of time, and having more cosmetic parts than actual armor parts is pretty nice.
>>730994971>the ultimate evil in japan's history... is le white man!
>>730995582Nioh's politics are weird. The game is the only KT game with ethnic Asian characters, largely because it's a type of traditional casting for more “realistic” representation. But at the same time, it's plotted as a silly tokusatsu/shonen. In the first game, people memoryholed Yasuke's existence. His representation in the game is that of a servile ex-slave who owes his life to his master, in this case, Nobunaga. Nobunaga is also “evil” but also cool, detached, and handsome. I really don't know where they're going with that game.
>>730994858Don't kid yourself, there's lots to work on. Combat itself will only get you so far.>boring overarching story-line>poor level design>crap ton of padding with remixed maps and enemies>armor and weapon affixes have very marginal impact on the difficulty>fuckloads of inconsequential items dropping>you unlock whole weapon trees making your choices not important in the end>endgame is even more map remixes ad infinitum
>>730995791> boring storylineVery entertaining old-fashioned story. >Level designBetter than any Souls game>PaddingI don't know, man, I've already clocked 200 hours and I'm going to clock more in the other games in the series>Affixes are uselessEh, kind of true. But it makes a difference on higher difficulties>Item dropsNot a problem>Weapon treesWeird rant. Greater mechanical complexity is always welcomed>EndgameEvery RPG ever
>>730995791>poor level designWhat the fuck are you even smoking you retarded faggot, Nioh literally has one of the best level designs in the entire genre. You simply hate dungeon crawling in which case you don't belong to these threads.
>>730983720i hope my favorite yokai returns its the one that givess 50% chance to do 20% more ki damage when at low health and on fire
Should I play Nioh 1?Already beat 2
Can someone drop me a revenant with 2x thrown damage or just regular throw damage inheritable in ni oh 1?
>>730983720Should I grind to endgame in nioh 2 now that I finished all missions + dlc or wait for nioh3 to do that
>>730995908>>730995958as you can see, niohdrones are a thing
>>730989642I pirated ni oh 1 when it came out but had pretty bad perfroamnce on my then 750ti. still managed to get to around odas wive. got the game on deep sale like a month ago and have been playing it every day. have like 170 hours in it. It was very frustrating but complete skill issue on my part. Now i just honor this game, its a literal masterpeace in terms of combat but has some redundancies i solved with automation like stance switching when evading or rebinding controls for onmoyo and ninjutsu casting
>>730995126>idk how its possible without oneit isnt, its a diablo like a good build is key at that point
>>730994858the discord as all the information you need
>>730989642its going to have even more bullshit that you gotta sift through and merge together
is my girl in the game and can i main her?
>>730996326no, they specifically chose not to include just this weapon
>>730996202You'll burnout doing that
>>730996294the discord is dead. i asked 2 questions and tripfags have been discussing retarded japanese semantics. nothing has been answered, they dont drop revenants, its terrible
did they learn their lessons in not face scanning jp stars and costing them all the budget like mumyo?
The demo will make or break whether or not I'll get the game at release, the current price is kind of crazy expensive, especially if you want to get the deluxe edition for the season pass.
>>730983720Poor man's eldenring
>>730996372there's 2 nioh discords for some reason, one is more populated I'm pretty sure
>>730996487why are you talking as if there wasn't already a demothe game will be goodit will run like shit on poorfag computers and the poorfags will complain/review bomb it as usual
>>730996110Yeah. Nioh 1 is fun
>>730998501There wasn't on PC. And with these types of games, you never know unless you get hands on with the game.I was excited for wolong until the demo made me abandon any notion of ever buying it, for example.
I am going to guess a new tech that is going to be found in the game: doing a long attack, switching to the other mode, and then attacking in that switched mode.
>>730995582The ultimate hero in Nioh is also a white man.
>>730995110Nah the fight is dogshit. It being such a blatant no effort reskin of orochi was so jarring and annoying to me I summoned other players and never bothered with ng+, and I played the ever loving fuck out of the first game. It didnt help that the levels all looked the same whereas in Nioh 1 you had actual distinct areas
>>730996094>>730995908You are fucking delusional. Nioh level design is fucking abysmal and this is one of the only games that open world will genuinely improve by miles. The level design is really, really, REALLY fucking bad
I'm going to have to pirate the game for now until there's a hefty discount. 120€ for the complete edition is highway robbery.Koei needs to get their head out of their ass with their prices.In no universe is a base game Nioh worth 80€, especially knowing it's going to run like shit at release like all their other games.
>>731000139That's an extreme exaggeration. The level design in Nioh is perfectly serviceable. Some areas are genuinely good with the shortcuts and double-backs.Go play Code Vein if you want to see bad. That game makes Nioh level design genius by comparison.
>>730994971I look like this
>>730983720>asian male>1 kat>ninja styleSimple as.
>>730998457Im only aware of ni oh community which is the other one
>>731000139still don't understand why this is repeated so often. i played both games for hundreds of hours and never thought "wow this level sucks".
>>731000183Same. Nioh 3 is one of the few games i'm interested in this year and I was baffled how expensive it is. Cheapest i've found the deluxe edition is £83 95.72 in euros.
>>730988186They very clearly stated they had no plans for DLCs
>>731000305It's all hallways even when youre supposed to be outside, every encounter is actually secretly a gank, it's filled with random winding cliffs and turns, extremely claustrophobic so it somehow manages to even make the combat feel janky despite it actually being great and fleshed out. And the levels lack gravitas, they dont really feel cool because everything feels so slapped together. If they were going for dungeon crawler Nioh 1 unironically did a better job because at least the levels feel unique from one to the next whereas 2/3rds of nioh 2's level are wooden castles. Still great games but the level design is the weakest part
>>731000681Maybe because it's bad and you need to play more games.
>>731000681Only one I disliked was the lava themed map you encounter in some side quests. Rest ranges from fine to cool
>>731000759I remember getting to the part in 2 where everything turns to ice and snow and thinking wow awesome finally something different, then I realized it was only the last 2 minutes of the level and it was over and we never see anything unique like that again until the Amrita tree route mountain with the sakuras at the very end of the game
>>731000521the one that is making the nioh website
>>730983720How's team sloppa still able to make games after so many flops?
>>731001084Root*
>>731000759DLC areas of 2 had some of the most interesting and strongest levels. Both visually and gameplay wise. I hope they use the same creativity in 3 base game
>>730985267Play Wolong while you wait for the inevitable Nioh3 Complete Edition
>>731001124They're cheap asset flips with great gameplay. Ez
The only good remarkable level is the ninja house in 1 desu.The rest is unremarkable at best
>>731000139No, you're the delusional one. Nioh boasts extremely solid level design. It BTFOs almost the entire genre in terms of individual environmens. The very first real mission of the first game is bloody insane in that aspect. First half is an interconnected forest with a mansion you can either assault directly or find a side path. The second part is a gigantic labyrinthine village with a ton of internal shortcuts.
>>731001169The shipyard and the bloody town were cool but even then the shipyard was just repurposed assets from 1, boss included
hallways > open areasalways
>>731001312The asset flipping doesn't bother me since the game is all about repeating content. I'd like them to incorporate more creative flipping though. Maybe something like rifts in stranger of paradise for nioh 3's endgame where small instances are repeated and changed as opposed to whole big levels.
>>731001304The first game had much better level design, I said that in my follow up post. I really liked the ninja castle, Nue's area, and the underground dungeon. Even Hino-Enmas cave had more personality than anything in 2
>>731001403>The first game had much better level designNo, they are both great. Second one literally bombards you with insane level design. An entire fucking MOUNTAIN with internal interconnected side passages, a village, a forest and a military camp. A prison with a gigantic double staircase and a castle on top. A fucking upside down temple with a rotating central pillar. You're absolutely delusional.
Anyone actually play 3 demo? I don't have a ps5 so waiting on the steam demo later this month but curious about the open fields. In game maps in 3 just look like a bunch of inter connected large corridors so I'm somewhat hopeful but rise of the ronin had such a shit enemy density that I'm a bit apprehensive if they learn their lesson for nioh 3.
>>731001485All dogshit. Even the upside down castle which looked gorgeous was just more random winding corridors with no direction and the statues you had to find the orbs for were extemely half baked because they did absolutely nothing for the level design. The orbs were usually right around the corner and you'd just backtrack for 10 seconds put the orbs in the statue and move on. Biggest let down in the entire game. Nioh 2 level design is fucking ass
the kino levels were the ones where its all out war. You know the ones, where you're storming out against cannonfire and have to fight shima sakon at the end, or the one where you fight sarutobi satsuke.
>>731001592Each orb literally forces you to play a chunk of the level to reach, and at several points of the mission you have branching paths you can take in order to proceed lower. You're fucking braindead.
it's the same Nioh 1 guy again
>>731001668I literally just beat 2 again in preparation for 3. The levels fucking sucked, even Team Ninja agrees or they wouldnt be dropping the winding bullshit level design in 3. Youre in the minority on this which is why theyre going open world and the game will be better for it. You dont have to agree but you already lost and I thank Team Ninja for it
>12 daysFuck I could have sworn the initial announcement and alpha dropped a month ago
>>731001803>open world and the game will be better for itGenuinely the worst possible format for nioh. Glad it's just the levels of 1/2 but larger instead of open slop. >>731001551
If they added jumping, they have to add more exploration and platforming.
>>731001803You literally can't articulate why "it sucked" beyond repeatedly stating that it does and spouting flat out lies about the level design. Shut the fuck up/
>>731001869>he didnt play the demoPlenty of space to breath, nothing like Nioh 2. It was absolute kino
>>731001891Nioh levels are already pretty vertical. Remember spider castle or Latria 2.0.
>>731001894Cry more nigger. They're abandoning the jank hallway simulator. See>>731000759
>>731001909>space to breathAny time I'm not fighting yokai is wasted time. Might as well play elden mid by that point and fall asleep.
>she has completely degenerated to limp dicked shitpostingNioh haters never change
>>730983720>Itsumade and konaki-jiji returnPls no
>>731001962You dont have to agree but I love Nioh, which is why Im so adamant they take what works (the combat) and fix the jank level design that does nothing but hold this series back. The image the other anon shared of a map in 3 is just of a smaller enclosed area like a legacy dungeon, but if you actually played the demo you would know how open most of the playable area is now. Its a much better balance
>>731002038What's the issue
>>731002038itsumade is fine, you just have to play patientlykonaki jiji is a bitch, the gimmick of having to remove his armor to invalidate him automatically tanking your attacks is gimmicky
>>731002183>Hp bloat >Attacks with enormous hit boxes >the fucking damage he doesIf you going to make him a boss level enemy then give him a boss arena and stop dropping his ass in regular levels.Too be fair it’s been a while, I may be misremembering how annoying he was
>>730983720I want this game to flop so bad
>>731002334Skill tissue
>>731002038They are also introducing more bullshit versions of older foes like a magatsu warrior who can spawn tornadoes under your asshole
>>731002181The best part is combat and combat density. Dropping the player into open levels with larger periods of downtime between combat compared to smaller linear levels is a poor decision.
>>731002334Don't careITSUMADEEE
>>731002412Good!
>>730983720Lack of enemy variety will be shit just like the first two
>>731002513Nioh 2 had fantastic enemy variety
Any theories about the story?I think MC will time travel enough to become Susanoo himself
>>731002436Its not completely open world like a ubisoft map for example, but it's much less linear and claustrophobic and actually gives you space to maneuver and fight the enemies which is great because all the yokai in these games have borderline boss tier movesets. Its simply not fun to fight a tengu or something similar in a cramped ass hallway while 3 gaku leap at you and 2 snipers take potshots at you from a balcony you can't reach
>>731001403Honestly, I think Nioh 1 had the better music too. Was great hearing some of those tunes again in nioh 2, but most of the music original to nioh 2 was kinda forgettable in comparison.
>>731002534I want a simple story like 1 man. The time travel crap in the DLCs in 2 was retarded.
>>731002619>Its simply not fun to fight a tengu or something similar in a cramped ass hallway while 3 gaku leap at you and 2 snipers take potshots at you from a balcony you can't reachI beg to differ. Asshole design decisions like you getting ambushed by a tengu on a rope bridge are fun
ITSUMADEEEEEE
>>730983720its going to be all ITSUMADE
>>731002640I cant remember a single track from 2 except for monkey man's boss music and the track that plays when William shows up, both of which were kino
from the demo, does this game run better or worse than ror? nioh 2 was fine for me but ror was an actual slideshow
>>731001551>Anyone actually play 3 demo?I played the 'alpha' demo, it still felt like Nioh but I didn't really like Ninja mode and the jumping felt awful. Just walking off a ledge the game thinks you've jumped so will hang in the air an extra second because of it. The level design suffers because of the need to factor in vertical movement, and the open field nature also ruins the graphical quality and density of the environment, the water texture was especially bad I noticed. I don't have a lot of hope these were just 'alpha' problems, and for a series with TWO prior games already, the demo felt way jankier than I would expect. I think they've rushed the development of this game because they needed to.
>>731002768for me it'shttps://youtu.be/YN8Z76TXSrshttps://youtu.be/GgW7PA51nu4https://youtu.be/SyttgqXfOw4
>>731002669>The time travel crap in the DLCs in 2 was retarded>he doesnt knowNobody tell him
>>731000139Can't think of a single Nioh level I would call bad.I can think of entire halves of Souls games which are bad
>>731002768https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLpQHkOZBAgI like this one.
>>731002959Thanks for your honesty. It looks a little janky from what I've seen but we'll get to try it first hand. Shit better be good for the price
>>731003026Oh yeah Interim was great.
>>731002862Haven't played the demo myself, but Nioh 3 should arguably run better than ROTR since it's not a true open world and doesn't have a ton of assets and distant objects to render. That being said, if you're planning to play this game on PC, just remember that Japanese devs are still rather infamous for shoddy PC game releases
>>731003053Literally rent free No one is talking about Souls.
>>731003175TN might actually be the worst dev for pc releases. Not just for optimisation but for missing content too. Doa5 is a good example of this.
>>731003213>No one is talking about SoulsI just did retarded illiterate
There is literally no reason for them to not re-use every single enemy from Nioh 1 and 2. I think 2 was only missing a single enemy from 1, I think it was those terracotta warriors
>>731003256As I said, rent free. Can we have just one Nioh thread without some insecure fag bringing up dark souls
>>731003329Why do you have a chip on your shoulder about it lmao
>>731003324>terracotta warriorsThey are busy working in WoLong.
>>731003329>game regularly lumped with soulsshit but you're not allowed to discuss said shit in the threadsUhh okay?
Making all 3 of them day 1.
>>731003324idk why they didn't reuse more of the bosses, especially hino enma. I want people to get filtered by her two games in a row. Spider lady boss was good, so was yuki onna, ogress. Sanada should've been in too.
>>731003508Might make kasumi. She's great in RE
>>731003551I really wish they bring back every yokai and give them at least 3 new attacks each. Fuck it. Make this the biggest nioh sandbox yet.
How's the character creation? About the same as 2?Can't wait for the Ryona
It's waiting for a sale time...
>>731003642Has boob slider
>>731003353>not wanting every single nioh thread to devolve into soulshit discussion is having a chip on my shoulderIm tired
3 will be the only game I have bought at release in years
>>731003890I bought ng4 on release too. After nioh 3's release I doubt I'll buy anything else on release unless TN drop DoA7
>>731001937Genuinely, what level resembles Latria?
>>730985267Just play Nioh 3
>>730987494You be nice to Nyo's grandmother you fat fuck
>>730983720I love nioh so much I ended up buying a new pc on announcement just to run this shit. Genuinely no other game to look forward to.
I hope Nioh 3 has more references to NG and DoA besides Hayabusa clan stuff. Give me another new ancestor fight.
>>731004394Is Nioh actually related to those games? I thought the Hayabusa fight was more of a neat cameo than anything
>>731000396Based and a True Samurai
>>731000396Is that actually possible with the way they're divvying up weapons in 3?
>>731004452Spider clan ninjas pop up in dlc areas and are named. We get a rasetsu fight. Pretty sure there's wider conformation including lore tidbits in ng about oda nobunaga using hayabusa clan to slay yokai. Plus we get nyotengu fight in 2 dlc.
>>731004452Same universe.You've got the Hayabusa clan, Black Spider clan lookalikes + Tsuchigumo, and Ancient Nyotengu.Wo long has Hayabusa clan references. Ronin has references to William and Nioh in general.All that's left is for NG to acknowledge this with a Scampuss or something.
>>731004394How has her great great ..... grandmother not been included yet?
>>731004262Kelley's lab in 1. Hollow Fortress in 2, especially that level of the prison that's entirely submerged in the dark realm.
Is the demo time limited?I'm getting a ps5 for this game but it won't be until Feb 2nd.
My Pc.... can't run it...
>>731004662Pretty sure the demo is available indefinitely even after release of main game, similar to wo long.
>>731004798Owari da
I finally beat the 2nd boss in Nioh 1 I don't think I am all that good at this game but I will keep going because I like swords
>>731004880Go on without me bro... just rememberA true Samurai only uses 1katno onmyono ninjutsu always bow before and after a duel
>>731004927Never give up, especially if you're having fun.
>>731004831That's super A neato number one.
>>731005005Perhaps even a spear...
Thank fuck its on PC day 1. I hate having to buy them on PS4 and then PC later
>>731005102>Ps4Yeah, you're not buying games twice, dog.
>>731005102But now we have to wait for DLCs on all platforms instead of a sweet complete edition.
jack from strangers of paradise should make a cameo and say fuck chaos
Some autistic jap actually made maps for Nioh missions and they are even more batshit than i rememberBasically that exact picture of "old doom level design" that circulated on /v/ a decade ago.
Im looking forward to the coop.
>>731005005I will use sloth talismans and paralyze and there's nothing you can do about it!
>>731005353this
>>731005005Yes, but what about second kat?
>>731005952Why not 6kat? (2x 2kat ninja, 2x 1kat samurai)
>>731004385New rig on announcement? Your "new" PC will barely be able to run it 60fps in 1080p.
>>731006234Dumb nigger
>The only boss in the entire (MQ) game who attacks immediately after another boss>Goes absolutely bananas in the Dark World>Finally beat him>I refuse to dieBest part of the game
>>731006747>that one attack where he starts walking weirdly and creates a trail of clonesStill have no idea how to deal with it
I hope the cute Cat Yokais are back.
>>731006968Scampuss?
>>731007034Pre ordered. I am collecting them all, again.
>>730995069>I hope they finally have slutty outfits.Just get it on PC.
>>731007191It's using a different engine. Wo Long and ROTR had fuck all mods because this engine is a nightmare to work with.
>>731007245Damn
I can't wait... Fuck sony for not allowing a pc demo
>>731006968They are back. Now they RUN THE FUCK AWAY from you but actually they lead you to treasures and skill points.
>>731007445There is a PC demo coming however.
>>730983720Nopethe stone soldiers from 1 aren't ever coming back>>730985267play it faggot
>>731006878use an AoE attack to one shot all of his clones before they disperse
>>731007471Really? When?
>>731007604
>>731007695oh, neat
>>731007034>super fun battle where his guardian spirit plays his theme followed by incredibly cute cutscene
Won't be paying 120€ for it. Nioh 2 with all DLCs was 50€.
>>731008240I fucking love these stupid ass ai cat videos
>>731008287wait... that's not real?
>>731008404Have you ever been in an office?Those people are all sitting and doing their jobs...
Removing zero-ki combos is such a shitty change
BRING BACK PVP FROM NIOH 1
>>731008862No
>>730995069this
I like that MC grows guardian spirit wings in actual cutscene, not just the gameplay
why can i sometimes recover stamina when blocking an attack and sometimes not?
>>731010000mid stance only
>>730983720>Will all yokai from nioh 1 and 2 return?So all the yokai from 1 and the 3 new ones they added in 2? Probably.
>>731002527
>>731010126>3 new onesnigga, in the first fucking mission they added more than 3
>>731010000You are using a purity weapon.
>>730983720every time I see the shitty open areas with elden slop jump, I just want to play Nioh 2 again instead
>>731010706This. The Ninja style also removes all of the substance from what made Nioh different. It's just shit.
>>731008491Wait, what are you talking about?
>my shitbox will barely be able to play it.I think I'll sit this one out for now and play the dlc on a new rig later
>>731011606Try using your hands instead of your shitbox
>>731011281Out of ki humans act the same as yokai now
>>731011868*human bosses whoops
>>731011868You know, I played the alpha but now I'm not sure if I even remember that. I thought they still went out-of-breath but now I need to go look through footage again.
>>731011868whats wrong with that exactly
>>730983720How important is it to play the first 2 games before this one?
I like the magic in Wo-Long, 2h axe/hammer in Niohs, everything in Ronin.
>>731010186>close to 80 yokai with unique soul cores>a variety of human enemiesYep, great variett
>>731011196>Ninja style also removes all of the substance from what made Nioh different.Yes it just reminds me of all the other arpgs that play like Nioh ninja style and have style switch. Oh wait...
>>731011868Humans were incredibly valuable until depths. I'm mixed on the change since humans dont feel as unique
>>731012452They're not really story heavy games so you could play 3 just fine in that regard. I would still play both 1 and 2 however since they're good games. Of course, if you want to just hop on the hype train and play 3 right away then go for it, just know that it's changing things up a bit with the open fields and ninja mode. If you try and play all three directly back-to-back then you will burn yourself out. Each game has a lot of content and ideally you'd want to space them out over the year.
>>731011868They needed to either do that or else give them some sort of recovery..0 Ki juggle was too easy on the majority of humans, once you had a flow you could just delete.
>>731013364they already fixed that in nioh 1
should i just rush through the missions to get to the next ng+?
>>731013612If you're planning on playing 3 I would just stop right now or you're going to get burnt out. If you're playing for the first time you're a faggot for rushing the game and caring about endgame bullshit
>>731013612If it's NG+ already yeah but watch out.Koji is an absolutely bonkers difficulty spike at one of the NG+ levels, can't remember which.
I'm assuming that streamers and journalists will start putting up demo footage at the start of the demo week, a few days before we all get it. Not really expecting anything this week but I guess there's a chance that they might start dropping stuff a week early.
>>731002527>>731010186nioh 2 had lots of yokai and the devs still insisted 50% of them were this nigga
>>731014180Fucking true. What the fuck was their problem? Easily the worst enemy and they copy pasted him everywhere.
>>731014495it was only cute the first 82 times...oh wow a human mimic...and did you know they don't even realize they're yokai?! ZOINKS
>>731002527It does but for some reason the game doesn’t utilise it properly and insists on spamming Karasu Tengu, Yoki, Rokurokubi and Enki. The DLC content had better enemy distribution than the main game for the most part.
>>731014180I fucking hate this mob so fucking much. It's not even fun to fight against him when he just insta fucks you up with a 1 frame start up attack that has insane range
>>731014825I swear when people defend the enemy variety and level design they are only remembering the DLCs
I imagine most of them will. And that's a good thing because even with recycling so many enemies the overall variety is likely still going to be rather poor.
So do we know if you can do the wo long parry in ninja mode or is it sam only?
>>731015056What does it take for you guys to say the variety isn't poor? 2 had plenty of enemies and there's already been a lot of new ones revealed for 3. If they combine all of that then the variety will be very high.
>>731014825Not really an issue in ng+++ once they mix up enemy placements but don't think many people got to that point
>>731015056>overall variety is likely still going to be rather poor.People who say this shit never played 2
>>731015541Neither has Wo Long parry. Samurai has timed deflects and ninja has perfect dodges. Some ninja weapons do have specific martial arts for blocking at the last moment however but that's not the same as the default deflect that samurai has.
>>731015773So essentially sam only thenShame, I kinda wanted to go full claw mode and I dont really care for stances
>>730983720Maybe...
>>731015541>>731015773>>731015984I thought Mist works like Wo Long where it's a dodge+parrythat's what the ninja gameplay is like too essentially
>>731018421It has iframes so you can use it to dodge but that's not really the same as what Wo Long had. Also Mist can't be used from neutral, it's only after an attack like ki pulse. They basically gave tonfa's demon dance to all ninja weapons but tonfa still has the unique Demon Dance animation once you learn it along with a wider invulnerability window. I'm assuming tonfa will also have it's mystic art that lets it use Demon Dance to cancel skills which Mist doesn't have.
>>730995791>boring overarching story-lineVery much personal taste. I loved the second game and the way it portrayed things. It handles grief in a subtle way seldomly seen in video game as a media>poor level designYou're retarded>crap ton of padding with remixed maps and enemies>armor and weapon affixes have very marginal impact on the difficultyThese two are real>fuckloads of inconsequential items droppingThis one is controversial, I'm partial to agree but I also know that a lot of people enjoy it. Seems to be one of the things that make Nioh niche.>you unlock whole weapon trees making your choices not important in the endWhat? How is this a bad thing? Lmao>endgame is even more map remixes ad infinitumFine with endgame recycling content and making it harder, but I do wish there was more to it.
>>731018995Oh boy I loved the mute retard MC and forgettable historical slop "look it's japanese warlord #73! whoaaa will he turn into a deeeeemin?" """"story"""" of 2! It was literally all filler until the Tokichiro """"twist""""
>>731019656I suppose it must be a lot more boring if you don't know Japanese history, but that's like playing a WWII game without knowing what a world war is
>>731014180>>731014909Loved fighting them with 1kat since that weapon is so great at weaving in and out
>>731020252Low stance 1kat might be the best weapon to dodge all of his bullshit
Nioh 3 is going to be really funny if it pulls the same trick Rise of the Ronin did for its post-game.
>>731002364Why?
>>731014909this might already be really obvious but rokurokubi got way easier for me as soon as i started fighting him more at a 'mid' sort of range and slightly to his left or right. imo his most dangerous moves are his slams, and everything else is pretty telegraphed and reactable when you're in the right spot. he has some of the more annoying projectiles if he's just spamming your ass with them though, and of course things get a lot more complicated when it's not just a 1v1
>>730995791>someone who only played Diablo II on normal and doesn't understand why it's still so popular to this day.
>>731021021His most dangerous move is the "being a fucking human without stagger" attack,
>>731020909what was the trick?
>>730983720Someone has to start a general thread for this game. The content of these games is seemingly endless because of random loot and poorly constructed Wikis. I feel like calling it KT general is good because it encompasses NG/Nioh-likes and even DW. Since they're unpopular enough to lump into one thread.
>>731021292And create a cesspit of avatarfaggots posting their barbie dolls? Lmao good luck with that.That kind of faggotry was already present during Nioh 2 threads. Why encourage it with a general
>>731021221It repopulated all the enemy camps and threw in a random boss for good measure.It didn't really work with just human enemies so it definitely wouldn't work with yokai.
I hope we can team up you gais ^-^
>>731021376I don't want to start a thread on /v/ and see it get buried because no one posts. If it weren't for a slow day, this thread would have died in time. When I bumped it, it was at the bottom of the catalog. Generals are good for sharing things; avatarfaggotry will be everywhere, but I want to discuss what I like.
>>731021292Diablo loot doesn't make a game endless, I can assure you that much. There has been Nioh generals on /vg/ in the past however and it's possible that somebody will start them up again with 3.
>>731021731you can't just create those? how do those threads work?
>>731021674>but I want to discuss what I like.Then a general is the last thing you want. They always, always, always devolve into discord clique niggery with several simps begging some troon for attention.
>>731021292Team Ninja general better maybe?
Anyone understand how fps work in Nioh games? I heard people saying how game actually slows down if fps drops...I guess it's something about how Japanese devs still make their games.
>>731021973Anybody can make a general there, they just died off eventually.
>>731021674New games on /v/ do fairly well especially for like well established games. The latest example I've seen was with Tokyo Xtreme Racer. Even if that is a fairly small game it had some pretty good threads going for 2 weeks almost
>>731003053>Can't think of a single Nioh level I would call badI fucking hate the ice/snow maze and the level with the dungballs in Nioh 1.
>>731003508Making Rachel is easy, I've seen another anon have a good one in the Nioh threads.Making Momiji is quite hard because her eyes are so big, round and expressive with a golden light that you can't really replicate. I tried to make her but it only looks half-decent imoMaking Ayane is kind of impossible because there's no good hairstyle to replicate hers, and I've never seen one that captures her chubby but cute face properly.
>>731024059Here's what I tried
The only remarkable level in the whole Nioh franchise is the ninja castle in 1.That being said I do think overall 2 is better than 1 level design wise
Does anyone have some cool male character codes for 2?
>>730985267Don't listen to any of the people replying to you. It's utter dog shit and if you played Nioh 1/2, you will be sorely dissapointed. It's extremely shallow becuase everything boils down to spamming parry slop with every weapon
>kinda want to replay the first two but it will lead to a massive burnout and bad muscle memory fuck
>>731025587great music for this bitch
>>731025587Despite the mechanical similarities, each KT game plays dramatically differently. Perhaps Nioh 3 plays more like Nioh 2. But you'll have a hard time playing the others.
>>731026121They changed the control scheme for 3
>>731024626I can only hope that the ninja mode in Nioh 3 involves training in a hidden ninja village first to learn how to use it
>>731025492I'm one of the original Nioh fans who played the first alpha and everything and I enjoyed Wo Long. I like the Nioh series and SoP more but Wo Long was still pretty good. It did have a lot more issues on release though but these were mostly taken care of with updates and the expansions. Well, "mostly", they never fully fixed all of my criticisms of it. It was a step back after Nioh but it was still enjoyable even if it wasn't their strongest title.
>>731000139You retarded zoomers really have no clue what you're talking about. Level design facilitates the functions of the game. Nioh is designed around repeatable missions so you do not want them structured in a way that creates tedium upon replay. You retards literally think looping an elevator back to an earlier area = good.
>>731026484Wolong is kind of like an engine overhaul with a jump button and slower paced, more methodical gameplay. ROR is Wo Long but perfected, and SOP is the odd Nioh 2.5. I think of these games as Sonic Adventure post 2. With Shadow being 2.5, 06 being 03, and Heroes being the odd man out.
>>731026620It's better not to have pointless shortcuts, dead ends, and hallways like every Souls game.
>>731021080>it gets good 200 hours in
>>731021292>Someone has to start a general thread for this game. The content of these games is seemingly endless because of random loot and poorly constructed Wikis.It's really not, the general died for a good reason. Most people use the same handful of builds and the gameplay is extremely repetitive.
>>731021674You pretty much have three options for Nioh topics1. /vg/, but it will devolve into waifu posting like every other general, and will occasionally have some e-drama2. /v/, but the topics often start with bait, and fromsoft fanboys will try to shit it up with every chance they get3. /vrpg/, it will stay up longer because of how slow that board is, but most people probably won't even realize a topic is even on there, so it will largely be dead
>>731000741I don't buy that for a second.
>>730983720Probably, it's a midbudget game and Japan isn't scared of asset reuse. Why reinvent the wheel instead of just using the old wheels and adding more improvements?
>>731021674>and see it get buried because no one posts. If it weren't for a slow day, this thread would have died in time. When I bumped it, it was at the bottom of the catalog.why do you think that is?
>>731028623https://www.rpgsite.net/interview/16987-rise-of-the-ronin-2025-interview-team-ninja-fumihiko-yasuda-yosuke-hayashi-koei-tecmo-pc-port-steam-japan-story-dlc
>>731028972>an interview a year after the game came outYou're retarded. They cancelled all DLC after it flopped. It ends with TWO big DLC hooks.
>>731029365Keep coping.
>>731029432With what? I know they won't have DLC, but some was obviously planned. You'd know that if you played it.
>>731029365Sony abandoned it too quickly. KT should have some self-respect and do a crowdfund (early access). Only Hades outsold the entire Nioh franchise.
>>731028039>200 hoursDoes it really take you that long between levels to remember how to breathe?
>>731028972How come they've already announced a season pass with two DLCs for Nioh 3? Do they really think it will pay off?
>>731028619The people trying to shit threads up like that are typically false-flaggers most of the time. You can occasionally still get threads that start out with a normal topic and stay somewhat okay throughout.
TN should dip their ninpo toes into some isometric arpgs waters
>>731031702that's what they do with main entriesronin was a spin off
>>731014495>>731014909>DIDN'T LEARNWhen will you people learn?
>>730988186Rise of the Ronin underperformed pretty badly, it was projected internally to sell 5m copies and barely cleared 1.5m on PS5 and then ~300k on the PC.It was handled in a completely baffling way, Sony and/or KT decided to release it on the same day as the multiplat Dragon's Dogma 2 (which ultimately underperformed too, amusingly) and then a year later (in typical KT fashion), they released an absolute disaster of a PC port.
>nioh 3 demo comes out>spend 4 hours making perfect waifu>jerk off to her and go to bed>actually play the game after work on fridayim excited bros
>>731031983this time Nioh 3 will get mogged by CV2 and the PC port will shit the bed as usual, so it will be up to the 1.5m PS5 gaymers to carry the sales
>>731031983The game only sold because people thought it was Ghosts of Slopshima. If Sony wanted to support the game, they would have bundled it with the PS5 Pro, like they did with that other Samurai game.
>>731031983I don't think DD2 actually under performed since it sold like 3 million at launch and then they said something like how they considered it a core series or whatever. Of course, sales then started to fall off a lot but I think it reached 4 million by now. But yeah, releasing RotR on the same day was dumb. I bought both and then played them back-to-back but it probably hurt RotR's launch more. KT was expecting the big normalfag bucks with RotR but their games don't really appeal to them.
>>731026197qrd?
>>731031983>projected 5 millionWhat the fuck are those execs smoking, the entirety of Nioh across all platforms is like 5 million. I think in the end Sony just didn't want to pay to develop any DLC.
