Should gacha protagonists be souless self inserts or their own characters?
>>730987572soulless self inserts just like the player base
>>730987572Why did you post my hero as the OPHes not even the protag. Its the stupid clock
>>730989289>"You've done it now">*Charges Attack*>*Fwoosh!*>"H-hes fast!">Bad guy looking around desperately>Hears a voice behind them>"Nothing Personell, kid.">*SWING* *SLASH* *CUT*>"GYAAAAAAARGHHHH-!">*sheaths weapon coolly*Project Moon has done it again
>>730989289>Jia Sinclair
>>730987572Yes, the appeal of gacha is character of the gacha rewards. If the protagonist has a strong personality, it limits the expression of the reward characters.
>>730987572Modern audiences prefer existing characters as they lack imagination and are unable to immerse themselves in the game.They experience everything literally as shown.
>>730989289I CLAPPEDWhat was the point of this anyways? Gregor's was an ominous warning of what he's turning into but certainclair was just "Hey check out this alternate future where Sinclairs a colour and will never show up again okay bye!"
>>730989742Bro blank self inserts are for idiots who can't just enjoy a story without some braindead stand in for themselves
>>730989982More or less to set up the "alternative futures that may or may not come to pass" thing that was the whole crux of Araya being able to say goodbye to RyoshuHonestly, Im just more sad that Saru got fucking concept incinerated
Husband and Wife...
>>730987572It's the haremslop of vidya, if you give him too much personality the playerbase's dick inverts
>>730990563>Saru
>>730991239>into girls>NTR'd by sinclair >into boys>NTR'd by XichunLimbus cuck game
>>730991239Sexy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u74j6KOa3cWhy did they give him the single best theme in the entire game?
>>730989982It’s meant to show what the mark of Cain actually entails, which might as well be the mark of potential manIf you want to be more cynical, it’s a plot point from Mahoyo
>>730992776>2:34There's something wrong with me, because all I hear are the first few notes of the Flintstones theme.https://youtu.be/XfwbLy1RPhY
>>730989616>If the protagonist has a strong personality, it limits the expression of the reward charactersHows that work?Also I've been told to stop stealing chips and to not care for other roses.
Xichun's husband...
>>730989289>chad sinclair actually grew taller >still shorter than Rodya and other tall chicks Hot
>Chad Sinclair has yellow fever Isnt this a korean game? Why is it promoting WMAF?
>>730996626El Director seems to be a rare korean man who isn't a spiteful incel
This is not the thread.
I wonder if I can recreate Matthias or Kira in Saints Row
I liked the canto but holy shit the final parts with Ryoshu's daughter were getting boring as shit
>>730996626Xichun is a chink
>>730996626They made it explictly clear in the Arknights collab that race isn't something people care about.
Do gacha games need a singular protagonist when the whole point is having a large cast of characters?
I still don't understand how Rien knows Furioso
>>730997189Wasn't it the opposite? Faust implied racism divisions do exist on the side but in the world of PM, there's just a lot more shit going on. In arknights, race-wars are more prominent
>>730997228Depends on gacha.
I LOVE ROVER!!!!
>>730987572>their own charactersNumales are incredibly fragile and they'll NEVER accept this
>>730997425I've yet to see a gacha game where the protagonist actually contributes anything to the story by their existence other than having a POV for lonely people to insert themselves into the setting and interact with the characters
>>730987572make SOVL self insert that are also their own character
Shame we will never get more of adult Araya. Her chance of survival was always low but I don't know if ID Of her is possible
>>730997292Fpoon theory + Prescripts told him how to do it
Gachas need more harem protagonists with both big and small girls
>>730992776Ive been whistling this since wednesday. Its so fucking good
>>730997189I mean outside of the universe. Korean incels would be iffy if a non self insert male character is even remotely good with woman and the german twink whose already tangled in NTR allegations is now having a full shipbait moment with an asian character which they REALLY dont like.
>>730992776A part of me hopes the second smoke war happens because it sounds metal as fuckThe obvious world war 2 theming is such a cool idea
>>730993137>roach's kit is full of EGO resource generationthis will be limbus in 2030
>>730989982>show what marks even do>later on elaborate that there are different marks>possibility of another smoke war(since he is non mirror world)>that limbus company bus crew disbanded after achieving some goal(?)
Still cant believe Jia Emil caused the second smoke war by impregnating the H corp matriarch
>>730997825>that limbus company bus crew disbanded after achieving some goal(?)Doesn't the end of Honger's canto kinda imply that will happen as well? Though you could argue that's just hong reflecting that they will all one way walk their own separate paths
>>730997923I still don't get where this meme is coming fromThey just use the same skills because they were trained by the same man
>>730996925I liked the fact that they finally used the fights as storytelling vehicle more. They also started to develop other sinners more, not laser focus on sinner of given canto.Not sure about gameplay, but at least for me it was far easier than previous cantos? Certainly easier than the last two, maybe slightly harder than 6
Reminder that RoachKINGS are bidding their time....We wait in the darkest corners of your room for the opportunity to ADVANCE, CLEANSE, AND DEVOUR
How about multiple protags then? Solves many problems if you think about.
>>730998019The Xichun training arc is super shipbaiting
>>730998049Gregor coin SOARING through the sky.We've been fed well, bros.Now we go back to the shadows and wait once more.
So whose canto is next? Faust's?
>>730998083>We've been fed well, bros.You're overfed reallyTHIS NIGGA HAS LIKE 5 LAYERS TO HIS GIFTTHE FIRST IS A LITERAL WING'S SECRET SUPERWEAPONWHAT THE FUCK ELSE DID THE OLDHAG DO HUH???
>>730998114No.The next one will ackshually be good.
>>730998114No.
>>730998135Gregor is Ayin and Carmen's child.
>>730998138yeah I can't wait for more mommy issues from the director
>>730998179Can't wait for shooting the nigger AND the sun.
It's so funny to see retards who play gacha garbage act as if the stories or characters are even remotely good. Self-insert or pre-established character, neither matters since you'll just be standing on the sidelines watching premium characters get shit done.
>>730998114>HON HON HON~
>>730998037Yeah shit was way too easy, I guess they just learned to tone the difficulty down to avoid complaints from shitters and f2ps
>>730998179You say that but I can see Director upending the trope and Meur having a functional bond with his mother and her 'murder' being something that was only understood between the two of them.
>>730998258Smart people only play gacha for the women anyways.
>>730998258I just enjoy the story and the characters.And the hype moments and aura too, those are great.
>>730998037>it was far easier than previous cantosHalf the battles were about you just watching big guys fight while occasionally support them
>>730998258I don't play the gacha anymore, I came to this thread to proclaim a desire for LC2
Was Aria even Ryoshi's real daughter? Nursefathers said something about blood but it felt like she just found her or something.
>>730998258>neither matters since you'll just be standing on the sidelines watching premium characters get shit doneThat’s funny, because in my favorite gacha (I won’t name it because fuck you, it was already mentioned in this thread tho), in one of the recent chapters the premium new character was completely useless 90% of the time, and the MC killed almost every enemy by themselves.
>>730998508The implication was that Ryoshu and the little gremlin were both test tube baby clones of the pinky hag.Ryoshu found the little kid while exploring the facility where they were testing clones and she was likely the only successful clone they had recently, but still somewhat a failure.That's how I understood it anyway.
>>730998258I know your life is sad and you need to self insert in some empowering story where you end up with 10 mindless bitches sucking your cock or you'll cry yourself to sleep but this isn't a good thing bruh
>>730998557But Ryoshi was not a clone? There was a birth scene, kind of.
Bbhhiii
>>730998508>>730998557Ryoshu is the Nursefather's real child and then some finger tried mass cloning Ryoshu, and the prescript/index wiped out the project.
>>730989742>Modern audiences prefer existing characters as they lack imagination and are unable to immerse themselves in the game.Books never needed blank slate literally me characters to be immersive
>>730998258Limbus is the best gacha on the market. It mogs hour shitty woke AAA to hell with much better story and gameplay, sorry you have to cope about this.
>>730998697Books (and especially comic books) are flopping and manga is the most popular medium now... curious.
>>730998728Limbus has great story but the smaller budget really shows on everything else. The daily/weekly gameplay loop is atrocious and there's no end game (fucking one refraction railway per year). The only times the game is worth mentioning is during the two cantos they barely manage to deliver per year and the intervallos.
>>730998480>posted it >didn't get 4 Fag
>>730998565It's funny how you never see this kind of post in RPG threads. And yes, if I'm paying premium just for a CHANCE to obtain a character, they'd better be sucking my dick.
>>730998480ILL SAVE YOU YUGIBOUNDARY OF DEATH
>>730998728>best gacha on the marketNo, not really.The gameplay is abysmal dogshit, the only reason to play it is the story, which releases once a year.There are at least a few gachas with better gameplay, or at least not worse stories, and with better chapter release schedules
>>730998796manga are books you know
>>730998858Hot take, I don't need a gameplay loop, I don't want to grind. I just wanna play when I want and read some story.
>>730999139Found the raiding tranny already lol
>>730998728Always the same response from gachafags.>it has a better story than aaa games>it has better gameplay than aaa gamesNext you’ll say it’s really generous.
Alright its been two Cantos already, where is this blue fuckwit?
>>730998858>The daily/weekly gameplay loop is atrociousHow so? Compared to some others I (re)tried I appreciated having like four things to do for dailies (convert, excavations, claim) as opposed to having to go through (what felt like) god knows how many menus and modes.
>>730999139There really aren't
>>730999429He's waiting for the perfect opportunity to catch Dante all by himself to vaguespeak some bullshit.
>>730999381Limbus is kinda unique, you can unlock all IDs(things you roll for) for free at any given time. It's a game made by people who don't know how to make gacha games which is why it's somewhat okay. Their previous games were much better but hey.
>>730999525I guess that makes sense, Dante hasn't had much chances to be alone lately
>>730999465Well mostly the fact that there's really nothing to do in the actual game. Daily is xp/thread if you care about those, weekly is only the dungeon and I'm already so damn tired of the dungeon being the only real gameplay we have. Let's add 20 more levels so we can spend even more time in the god damn mirror.
>>730999623Levels are some of the most pointless fucking mechanics ever conceived of. The ONLY thing they add to the game is an excuse to grind more every new Canto. They literally had this exact shit in Ruina early access and removed it before it was ass and everyone despised it.
>>730998451Yea, but even the battle two battles without help(dihui star and Rien) where no where near Lei Heng or Don) maybe similar to Jia Qiu at most, where it wasn't hard to do when you remotely followed mechanics.
>>730998258>neither matters since you'll just be standing on the sidelines watching premium characters get shit done.Limbus is unique in that regard, you have 12 characters from the start and story is about them and their manager(who I guess is somewhat self insert a bit?) and new characters are basically skins for them(most of the time from other story characters or "what if" scenarios), so there is no option to not have characters from the story
>>730999280i do wish there was some sort of weekly abnormality to fight.i actually like fighting the abnos when everyone isnt fed ego gifts in an MD.
>>730998728>Limbus is the best gacha on the market.It really isn't being a Dumb down Runia is not the win you think it is
>>730998049Speak for yourself. I'm currently locked in a war of the wings with the Carpet Beetle Matriarchs
>crashes out and goes full sancho mode when she saw an actual autist who arent faking it>literally on the brink of taking off her shoes to murk herWhat is her problem?
>>730998019It's retards shit posting since he uses the same Moves as Drifter and Xichun from spring CultivationThere's no lore stating Sinclair got together with anyone let alone Xichun, and no that Sinclair from the Future may as well be a big "What if" scenario even with massive implications of a Second Smoke war and some other stuff since you gotta remember that it's it's a gacha and all the Sinners are bound to Dante
>>731000618She's a MEDIA LITERACY faggot and thinks you can't think fixers are cool while still being a member of the Fingers. She's ruined.
Donnie watches ALL the Fixer cartoons to appreciate the Hero's Journey told over and again, to admire the growth of the Fixers and the righteousness of their deeds of daring-do, fully internalizing the the moral lessons that are imparted onto the audience in these emotional epics full of pathos and virtus>daddy's girl is a violent thug who only watches shounen for "sakuga" and people hitting each other, takes absolutely NOTHING away from itDon knew exactly what she was looking at. A RETARD shounenshitter who misses the point. Needs correction.
>>731000618We should get shoeless Sancho as ally like with future Sinclair
>beat former sotc without helpcould we stomp ricardo if we run into him again at this point?
>>731000883So shes one of those reddit faggots who thinks all the peoples that enjoys her interest must have the exact same political views as her?
>>731000607Whatever you say xister.
>>731001112Easily lol, the apprentices we fight are a higher level than him. The only chance he has if he gets an EGO/Distortion buff jerkoff from being a breakout character.
After months I have finally cleared 7.5-24 within 15 turns, fuck Middle having opposite weaknesses Zilu, and also Ricardo is still surprisingly strong
>>730987572>Should gacha protagonists be souless self inserts or their own characters?They NEED to be soulless psychopaths with no morals or remorseI DEMAND PROPER REPRESENTATION
>>731001112Well I just did a 7.5 to finally clear one stage I couldn't within the 15 turns, I think we can beat him as is, but it would still be a proper bossfight
>>731000618Certified SCHOLAR meets hype-moments-and-aurafag.
>>730989508Jia and Sinclair are family names you retardIt should be Jia Emil
>>731001193No she thinks they should actually read and understand how characters act and why to properly appreciate them
>>731000618>What is her problem?She needs sex
>>730992701Shippers are so cringeEven the trannies understand boundaries better than themBut shippers just feel the need to drag their made up drama anywhere and everywhere
>>730991239So why is he using Faust's sword?
>>731000618Don is a Ruina enjoyer while Kira is a limbusfag whod probably say her own hypeslop canto is peak
>>731001503Actually read the dialog retard>... For I cannot well hand over symbols of Fixers to one who spectates a massacre as though she is observing a mere game.
>>731001570Stupid Faust LOST it because she is STUPID and NAIVE and DUMB!
>it took a smoke war for sinclair to accept that khomer was right and transhumanist aren't human
>>730997769Why does he have a nigglet bird?
>>730987572Sensei in BA is the best written gacha protagonist.
>>730987572sinclair is built for my cock
>>731001570His sword is all crooked? Jagged? Can't find the word but it's zigzaggy.The hilt also looks completely different.Meanwhile Sinclair's halberd looks pretty much the same. Unless it got reforged at some point I doubt that's Faust's sword.Also the crews weapons have to be pretty high quality if he's still using it at a color level.
>>731001743Gonna be real, anon, I doubt thatBesides him not seemingly having kuch of a grudge against thebgang or Dante, Kromer was also super into distortions which I doubt he is a fan of
>>730987572
>>731001570It's not Fausts looks nothing like hers probably forged a new weapon
>>731002037Nahits clearly the Night Drifter's original sword that he threw away
Why is OUR faust stupid faust while theres like 40 identical fausts in universes thats pratically same as us except sinclair is circumcised or ryoshu has slightly perkier tits?
WHERE IS HE
>>731002196All the others are the result of having sex with Sinclair. Our Faust isn't there yet so she's still a bit childish.
>>731002243Wait for THE 300 MILLION
>>730989289>>730987572Just so we're clear Angela would fold this Sinclair like a piece of cloth. Anyone who thinks the fight would even be close is delusional
Why do the Head let N corp run around preaching things they blatantly disagree with?Everything allowed in the City is still human according to the Head N Corp is literally preaching heresy
>>731002461Mad funny
>>731002461And? Having incorrect views on what is human doesn't make you less human so it's fine.
>>731002461what the hell is this ESL babble
next intervallo for sure...
>>730997493The Kingdom Hearts gacha has the main charcter act as basically the strongest of the good guys ans actually getting things done while funny enough being mostly unaware of the greater plot just trusting his friends to send him to kill the right people. Also you find out they are the adoptive parent of anothe4 character
>>731002398...Until she steps one foot out of her hax ego
>>730998348His mother pissed of a Wing or even the Head and he killed her to save her from greater pain.
>>731002461The head can't stop people from doing anything human, that's literally what they're trying to encourage. And N Corp's behavior and becoming disgusted with other humans is just normal.Also, they like to play it loose and only push things around indirectly or when someone concretely breaks the rules.
>>731000618Is Doncho aware that some of the fixers are just straight up evil?
>>730987572Considering the sheer amount of fucking dialogue these games ALL have, I've strongly come around to the position that the MC should have a defined personality. Mostly-silent protags are too difficult to write around, especially with the tons of OTHER ways gacha writing is already inherently crippled. It's just ass when characters are conversing with what's basically a brick wall.
>>731001569Only trsnnies and tumblrite mentally ill use words like proshippers and antishippers.
>>730987572I would take Limbus faggot more seriously if their praised story and world wasn't just a fucking amalgamation of different media storyline, it's pretty much just gook soap opera, every characters personality is their miserable past and the only characters which are worth any interest are the antagonist which have goals beyond "my mama had to sit at the back of the bus"
>>731002554>Bamboo Hat JOBBER
My goal? I just really hate this fucking whale.
Before I played this I thought Dante was a cool and mysterious dude based on his appearance and art but he's a total fucking dork and I can't get over that
>>731001569Can't wait for Faust and Outis canto, God I want to see the community implode
>>731003060Why?It's not going to stop them anyway
>>731003051I think its funny
>>731003051Amnesia Dante and Dante proper seem to be considered completely different entities if you read into his schizo speech about his kingdom
>>731003051>he's a total fucking dork and I can't get over thatThat's honestly for the best really since it makes the serious moments even more impactful
>godclairENTER>UNGEZIEFER KAISEREXIT OH GODEXITAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>731002587She can manifest it anywhere and more importantly her body itself without EGO is literally high color tier in durability
>>731003060For what? Sinclair being shipped with them? We and the community loves this. Aren't you misunderstanding where you are a bit?
I hope you're ready to read Hammer of Witches before Canto 10
>>731003385Its not even literature, its a handbook of sortsSurprised it was written by a catholic tho, seems like prime protestant material, then again it was a kraut who wrote it
>>730987572If they're not self-inserters, you're just spending the game watching girls flirt with someone elseKinda sus bro
>>730987572>waifu harem builder where every girl incessantly lusts for (You)self insert>any other typedefined personality>>731002461its not breaking a taboo so they dont give a fuck
>>731003454>He doesn't know how to torture and execute witches in today society.NGMI. Prime example why our society is so shit right now
>>731002461Being racist and eugenistic is human.
CatherineRenSoraMayorsThe entire Wonderlab cast.
I did not enjoy this Canto. Pacing seemed all over the place and they threw in more ideas and plot relevance for other Sinners because they were unsure how to expand more on Ryoshu's story.
What breast size does this clock have
hey dias can we get some of those relics we beat out of nursefathers? no? ok...
>>731004062What breast size does this clock enjoy seeing sinclair toy with
>>731003965>plot relevance for other Sinners because they were unsure how to expand more on Ryoshu's story.Sinners getting development in another sinner's canto is good because we do not have to wait all the way to Purgatorio for early sinners to get anything new since their canto ended, and if so then people would be complaining about the length of time before anything happens and how the Limbus formula is predictable and boring. NOBODY expected we'd get Future Sinclair nor Roach Emperor Gregor this canto, and I think them happening at all was a good thing
Sinclair is for young girls like Xichun. Hags like dante and don should just fuck off
Dante is Hitler btw.
>>730999325>raidinglol lmao that's non specific gacha thread, not your favorite trash can you call thread on /vg/
>>731000972okay but how are they going to reconcile that with the fact that they'll be friends in some intervallo a year from now
>>731004152<S-Shuck!>
>we help you to reduce years to come back and open the safe so get on the busand faust doesn't know the safe doesn't work for araya properly, or she says so knowing that
>>731003546i didn't not know limbus is waifu harem builder where every girl incessantly lusts for (You)
>>731000972>don is an hardcore Mushoku Tensei fan>while kira watched a youtube essay video once and claims she knows everything
I hope a small team battle happens after this. That was a nice system. And actually always moving with all 12 members together is just stupid.
>>731003965It is all collab fault IMO. What was first part of this Canto should have been the intervalo, and then they could flesh out Ryoshu and other sinner story inside Canto more
>>731004619If you self-insert as Sinclair it is
>>731004426GCJ is not sending their best huh? Can't even try to pretend kek.
GODbloxian clapDEITY here, friendship ended with the Black Silence, I self insert as Kira now.
>>731003965I think that's fair but I think a lot relating to Rien was well-done. The fucked family aspect needed more scenes. Also the collab fucked it I blame them. We didn't need this much DD showcasing
>>731001890>>731001570His sword is literally called Umbra, read the damn passives.
What if Lucio raped his nursefather?
>>731004669Problem with the small team idea is that unless you have ampules to deal with staggers or you have unyielding and the like, getting 1 sinner staggered means you can get completely fucked since u miss out on 2 slots instead of 1
>>731001570It's not. It's a Relic weapon named Umbra.
>>731001570why does the passive say "unnamed halberd" when it's clearly named "vogel"
>>731004987Actually WE are self-inserting as Vespa now because he's based and FUARKING powerful AND he gets to fuck Moses
>>731002398>delusionalso 50% of PM fans?
>>731004062>that assBuilt for sinner cocks, yes even the female ones
>>731003051Yeah and it's kino
>>731004669choosing what your small team setups are would be pretty cool
>>731004669I think it sucks losing team synergies like Capo Meursault and Thumb Sinclair, or the Bloodfiend team.
>>731006323Not mathematically possible.80% do not even qualify as human. And I'm pretty sure it's a pre-requisite to being considered delusional.
>bloodfiend lineage>color fixer training>augmentations and biological boluses of a fucking wingHow strong is the baby going to be? Is he going to become john city?
Should I get into Limbus or Library? I heard they are hard.I don't know about Lobo yet, that game might mind break me.
>>731006892Lob Corp -> Library -> Distortion Detective, Leviathan -> LimbusThere is no other way
>>731006887bloodfiends can't have childrensinclair is gay
>>731006951>sinclair and xichun have sex and gets a biological child>lets don bite him/herPolycue child get
>>731007071>but sinclair is demian sexualRape
>>731006892Limbus is one the best gachas you will ever play so you might as well just play that.
>>731007193>>but sinclair is demian sexual>RapeWhy would Meursault do this...
>>731004152For this clock it's about this size
>>731006939Wonderlab -> Lob Corp -> Library -> Distortion Detective, Leviathan -> Limbus
why are roblox kiddies also shippers
>>731006892>spoiler
>>731004062He's actually just a skeleton now since he's unable to eat
>>731006892Limbus is free so you can get into it and drop it without issues. I recommend starting with previous games, especially LobCorp but you can skip it and play Ruina, depending on what kind of gameplay you like
>>731007367Now that ryoshu forgot to care for her child, she would be horny to male sinners
Reminder that the reason our faust is stupid is because she unironically loves BUM sang to the point of letting him become a sinner and dragging everyone to grade 9 level
oh what if sinclair has a bonus against prosthetics and distortions because they're on different sides of the war and he's like between two worlds so he fights both
>>731006892>Should I get into Limbus or Library? I heard they are hard.>limbuslimbus is not hard it's just obtuse and annoying, it's a gacha game so expect it to click the "auto battle" button for 80% of your playthroughs, i honestly don't recommend it.>library of ruinait's actually fun with good gameplay, the writing is also pretty good whereas in limbus the writing is a coinflip depending on the canto>I don't know about Lobo yet, that game might mind break me.lobotomy corp is a bit of both in a sense, the game is amazing but it's repetitive, also the story is confusing but pretty good, i would say that there is a good game in there and a good story but they both require alot out of you to get them.for limbus and ruina if you decide to play them but get annoyed half way through because of the grind(specifically in lobotomy's case) do install anti grind mods
>Don't become like meShould've said so after she learned to understand words.
is the new canto good or more like hong's with style bit no substance? should i come back to check it or wait a while?
>>731008297Hype and aura to the point where the canto is making fun of itself as essentially a kid playing with color fixer action figures
>>731008297It's structured very differently than Hong's. It's very action packed, though a bit light on content on part 1/2, pretty short short chapters and fights. Part 3 is endless hype moments and aura with some big reveals. It's very light on actual Ryoshu focus despite being her canto, most of the time is spent on the enemies/teammates and there's an insane amount of characters featuring with major screen time.
>>731008359>Hype and aura>essentially a kid playing with color fixer action figureswell in that case i should probably leave it off for a couple of weeks~months. is el director ever gonna make an actual game ? didn't he say he's working on a DD VN ?
>>731008540He's making an actual game right now. Your mental illness over Limbus doesn't make it fake.>but that sounds shit!You're listening to a shitposter. Using "hype and aura" as your first fucking descriptor of anything is a huge red flag.
>>731008540he said they're making an action rpg now
Monzo its getting obivous
>>730990563made for BWC
So what fight will be normal thing in MD and fight fight will be Extreme floor?And what fight will be hidden boss? You defeated all of them, right manager?
Kromer did nothing wrong
>>731009438Floor 5 pack: The Unsevering>Possible boss fights: Any apprentice encounter that doesn't have their mentor presentFloor 11+ pack: The House of Spiders>Possible fights: Master + Apprentice pairsNew EX fight: Rien
>>731008297worse than hong's
>>730987572They should always be ugly bastards!
>>731008661good>>731010012damn
>>730987572Making good self inserts is always about knowing exactly what your core audience wants, this is why gachas that omnipander and try to do a self insert protagonist always fail miserably, HSR's protagonist is fucking terrible, GI's protagonist is absolutely awful up until Nod krai when they finally decided to let them be an actual character instead of a piece of cardboard. The reason why people love Sensei from BA is because the dialogue choices more often than not align with what the core audience is thinking, its an effective self insert that isn't soulless since you're regularly given the option to sniff a girl's hair or lick her feet which is exactly what a BA player would love to do in those given situations.
>>730987572Self inserts are better in games in general. Why would you want to play when the characters aren’t for (you)?
>>731009438I couldn't even be bothered to do a MD10 yet.
>>731010012I enjoyed it much more than Hong's canto. That shit was just wordslop for the same of it, chinkshit chinkshit chinkshit. I don't like that Ryoshi's chapter was 90% action but it beats ching chong by a lot.
>>731011072I like doing it. Especially since at some point hard MD 1-5 become as easy as regular MDNow only EX floor can be some challenge
>>731011716for the sake*
>>731011719The real gameplay is scaling, so of course MD10 is more fun, it gives you more room to scale.
>>731008297Its weaker than Hong lu's overall despite Hong lu's Canto having a very underwhelming ending. The good thing about the new canto is how many cool moments "hype and aura...as THEY say" there are with the sinners and the "new" characters. The biggest issue with it I feel is that if you haven't read DD (the book where the new allies come from) you don't really get all that excited when you meet them for the first time, Moses is a stuck up cunt, Erza is retarded and doesn't treat the sinners well at all and Vespa is alright, this is my opnion after playing through the Canto and not having read DD at all
>>731011719A true professional Limbus player...
>>731011958Not him but I'm in a similar boat, if I stop a run on floor 5 it's because I'm purely grinding, floor 10 runs are for fun and floor 15 is for when I'm really bored and just need to kill an hour or two. I only really use teams that I'd be comfortable running all the way to floor 15, too.Playing Limbus is actually fun.
I don't really find Sinclair to be interesting desu, he's just your average shy shounen mc, if his dualistic nature with psychological barriers that need to be broken through to establish himself as someone was explored in depth without the I'm either angry or shy thingy, I would've found him to be compelling.
I still don't understand how I'm supposed to choose these coins
>>731012113I usually do 15 floors each week, stopped doing it when new canto dropped Maybe I could try to do full adversity Ex run with Sinking team
>>731012185You don't have a consistently good team yet and you're probably nervous to write off some of what you have as "bad".Bigger numbers are generally better, but they're not the end all be all.
>>731011935>if you haven't read DDi haven't, i read a bit of it then fell into the "wait for the VN" meme and decided to not spoil myself KEK, in retrospect i should've seen that coming considering the state of limbus.>Its weaker than Hong lu's overall despite Hong lu's Cantounfortunate but you can't win them all i guess, I'll put it on the back burner and get to it when i have time with lowered expectations this way I'll enjoy it more, honestly i appreciate the honesty from you anons.
>>730989289>Its the stupid clockYou will not shit talk LimDad.
>>731012185the game is easy so just match the colors, OR press the auto battle button, OR read what the skills do, for example someone like W.arp don would need to use S1 and S2 to build up charge and use S3 only one she has enough charge
>>730991626>Don Quixotefags get NTR'd by bothI kneel
>>731012280Yeah, but even as someone that hasn't read DD either I did enjoy my time with it, just don't go in expecting masterpiece writing, there are many cool things that happen which set up interesting ordeals in the future of Limbus. I think that if you're someone that likes Sinclair more than I do you might even enjoy this canto more than Hong lu's
>>731012223Sinking is my least favorite team for floor 15s honestly, its rolls just don't keep up compared to stuff like Charge or Poise. Ever since we finally got enough units to activate poise and rupture fusion gifts without fielding fucking Cinqsault it's been my favorite team, with charge/rupture in second place.
>>730997825>>that limbus company bus crew disbanded after achieving some goal(?)i mean tbf shit like what faust pulled on don with it explicitly being foreshadowed that she will never fogive them makes me believe that the limbfamily isn't gonna have a wholesome ending where they all leave on good terms. Unless KJH changes his mind again so fuck it, who knows>>730997979add to that ishmael's entire modas operandi after her canto.
>>730998037Actually liked the gameplay outside the Mattias fight. BugGOD fight actually forced you to pay attention to mechanics and even the more straightforward ones like Rein took advantage of a lot of different things. I enjoyed very few fights boiled down to "if you fail this once clash might as well reset bitch". I vastly preferred this over the tons of chaff fights most cantos have.
I knew what was going to happen to Ryoshi's daughter and it still made me sad
>>731001792he is the John Limbus company and a fusion of every sinner. the bird is just the equivalent of the roach bro that Gregor has
>>730998258What games do you play?
>>730998508They specifically explain this. Ryoshu is her literal daughter. Araya is a test tube baby mini clone of the Nursefather lady, so more of a little sister to Ryoshu biologically speaking.
>>731012714>Araya is a test tube baby mini clone of the Nursefather ladyNo, of Ryoshu herself. The Dihui Star's blood was not attuned to time like Ryoshu's was, they wanted to mass produce that blood.
>>731001003Every Canto there will be a "should we take Sancho's shoes off?" moment until we power scale to the point where that wouldn't actually help anymore.
>>731012603FUARK
>>731012820We're already past the point where Sancho removing her shoes to deal with the unstoppable danger is the best course of action.I'd much rather have Ryoshu unsheath her katana.Worst case scenario is her just slashing at the air like a retard until she dies.Gregor is gonna be there as a "WITH THIS TREASURE I SUMMON" option.No reason to remove Sancho's stinky boots ever again.
>>731012603I thought that bird was some sort of manifestation of his ego with bird on his shoulder symbolizing him breaking out of his shell.
>>731012906Sancho is still pretty top tier. Reason she ranked top of the food chain. Im sure KaiserGreg is probably higher power scale wise but only him.
>>731012487I can clear floor 15 with any team if I'm not doing full debuffs. But yeah, charge and poise/rupture teams are only teams I managed to clear with adversity 50 (plus all buffs from gift picks)
Outis is actually the strongest Sinner
>>731013105All the teams I use can clear adversity 50 with some luck and a bit of sweating, on my "for fun" runs the only adversities I don't take are SP fatigue and sometimes tremor barrier or inflation.
>>731012578don't worry bro the quantum entanglement bullshit means they'll meet again somehow
>>731013153The strongest at sex
>>730992776Makes the smoke war sound like a campaign in a command and conquer game
>>731012906Sancho's niche is already filled by the Red Fraudthere's no need to use her unless Vergilius isn't around
What does Ryoshu having super-duper special time blood add to the story? We already have an example of time being relative to a specific person with Dante connecting the other sinners to his time. Why not just say that the T Corp safe was configured with Ryoshu's specification in mind which caused it to fuck up Araya instead of her just not having special enough blood? Why is this the only example we've seen of T Corp's singularity doing this quantum entanglement fuckery? If I put my food in a T Corp safe for too long would it be entangled so that it would constantly fluctuate between fresh, stale and moldy?
>>731011716You have a subset of people that believe a big word count to be a requirement for a "good" story, for some reason.
>>731013153second strongest actually, has the second biggest cock too.>>731012906not even remotely accurate
>>731013529>What does Ryoshu having super-duper special time blood add to the story?Explains what makes her a better concept incinerator than what already exists, has a different attachment to time than Dante.>Why is this the only example we've seen of T Corp's singularity doing this quantum entanglement fuckery?Because nobody else has tried putting a time related Relic inside T Corp tech on screen yet.>If I put my food in a T Corp safe for too longNothing would happen unless the food was made out of Ryoshu. Or maybe the Dihui Star.
>>731013153.... after Sinclair, Gregor, Ryoshu, Sancho, Meursault (forma controlled Distortion), Yi Sang (healed wings), Faust (Discord janny perms restored), Heathcliff (necromancer powers), Ishmael (power of friendship) and Hong Lu (Sleeping Dragon of Hongyuan)I guess she'll still be stronger than Rodion for what it's worth.
>>731013573Word count doesn't equal better story, obviously. What I personally liked about Hong Lu's canto is use of poetry to deliver a character's feelings without turning it into multiple paragraphs, use of poetry felt concise, elegant and natural. However, still underdelivered, considering the potential it had in my eyes.
>>731013790>Ishmael (power of friendshipWhy would you list a weaker version of ishmael?
>>731013806The canto still underdelivered*. I liked it, but not as much as I could have.
WHAT'S IN THE BOOOOOOX
>>731013790SHE KILLED LIMBILLIONS
>>731013932First time Milli's song got completely overshadowed by an ending one
>>731014002You remind me I need to get a music disc reader to play the Hamhampangpang Mili music disc they released for the anniversary.
>>731013932What is don doing there. Why are Yi and Ish working on the goddamn floor. Was that why Kim was MIA? He was on a mission to destroy every table on LC? Is Kim in the box?
>>731013932Heath is pretty strong to one hand a 100 ton hammer.
>>731013952I pumped limbillions into her shrivelled womb you mean.
>>731013932I wonder what's going to happen to Gregor now
>>731014190It looks like Don's got a bunch of LCE armbands so maybe she's on corpse cleanup?Yi used to be an architect so he's drawing up plans, probably on the floor just to fit it all in the scene since putting a table there would make him block out Mersault, Dante and the LCCA peopleIshmael is on cable management because she knows ropes and knots
>>731014190>>What is don doing there.Doing what she does best, being cute
Faust is STUPID
>>731014550She just wants to be sure...
>>731013573i would rather believe them than people who think this is >>730989506 counts as "good" story
>>731014550
>>7310143639.5 will probably cover the two potentialmans, hopefully they don't fuck it up.
>>731014730Dante is hiding his powerlevel. He's ALEPH tier.
I really hope Meursault's canto tones down the shonen levels
>>731013418Verg is our babysitter but he will not hold our hand in each canto. In current chapter it was fine because Company was direcly attacked but Dias will be mega asshurt when he lift finder to help Sinners in combat again
>>731015121I don't. I hope everyone who complains about "le shonen" gets filtered like they have since Lobcorp.
>>731012578I care more about Rein than ArayaI kinda don't give a fuck about her at all
>>731012906Sancho is a pretty retarded plot device all things considered.
>>731015121https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu8Gahx3YhQThis happened. Certainclair told me so.
>>731015649Meursault is pretty much the only competent sinner we have.
>>731015321SameBut also I feel like he's missing a couple scenes of development
>>731015987>Meursault, have a dramatic self actualization scene>Yes manager
>>731015321I started laughing when she did a complete 180 and the story tried to make it seem really sad that she was dying. The only characters that I think were done well this canto were Rien and Shiomi. And I'm not even sure if Shiomi was written like that intentionally because her characterization was a lot subtler that Director's usual "beating you over the head with it". I think Rien suffers from being turned into a Roland clone for cheap fan service, but I do like that his story is basically the polar opposite to Yan's. Choosing to follow or defy the prescripts doesn't matter because once you're in the Index, you're going to be fucked over either way.
So when do you think we're supposed to deal with this Q Corp woman now? What's the possibility of the sinners ever stepping their foot on Q Corp's Nest/Backstreets now that the japanese Canto is over?
>>731016969Neither of them defied the prescripts thoughI actually think it would have been better if Rien got a prescript to let Ryoshu go or something and he refused because he wants to continue being with her
>>730997292>>730997636Why does he need to be discount Lolan in the first place?
>>731017151She was working with one of the other corps, wasn't she? We'll probably deal with her whenever that one comes up.
>>731017275He tried to defy them of his own free will only to find out that the prescripts had predicted that and acted accordingly. That's what broke him.
>>731016969>>731017275Rien did defy the prescripts. Its stated in the skill lore that he tried to mercy kill his family instead of letting them die to callisto.
>>731017275The flavor text on one of his passives in phase 2 implies that he did try to defy the prescript when his family was being killed, not enough to stop their deaths but apparently enough to realize he didn't really believe in them as much anymore.
>Rien means of the Sea in latin>also means Nothing in French>Roland means "of the land" in French as well>Hermes is synonymous with the windI'm waiting for someone to find some obscure poem that makes the roland larp by Rien make total sense in hindsight at this point.
>>731017359Yan's a dumbassThe prescripts did literally everything he wanted to doHe was supposed to learn the lesson that the people influence the Will as much as the Will influences the people but he was too retarded to get it
Why was Rien being hunted by the index at the end anyway
>>731017763He was failing completing prescripts while fighting us
>>731017763Prescripts said so
Next limbus power up might be Tiphereth, but I have no idea who's canto that will represent since L Corp has two people to represent it as control, and ruina makes it the magical girl exodia floor of natural science, who the fuck knows how limbus is gonna impliment that shit into the next canto
I loev Laetitia
>>731017469What kind of coin cancer we get in next canto?
Sora had no right or reason to be as strong as she was, all the other apprentices were chumps compared to her and she put her nursefather to shame.
>>731017950>Chungusification of Faust before her CantoHow grim
>>731017612>He was supposed to learn the lesson that the people influence the Will as much as the Will influences the people but he was too retarded to get itWhile with Rien being given a prescript to LARP as Roland before Roland was even a fixer (at least for the timeline to make any kind of sense), it implies that the Will of the City can see into the future and that these things are predetermined, which would mindbreak Yan no matter what. A Certain Sinclair seems to imply that the future isn't predetermined though so who the fuck knows.
>>731017914Meursault will receive the legendary Tiph punch
>>731018174Meursault will deal with understanding of his mother issues, simply because it directly reflects Lisa trying to understand Enoch
This garbage OP is still up? I must have overestimated you fags after a good week.
>>731017950I completely forgot about the April Fools thing.
Anyone know what the fuck the source for this thing is?
>>730987572Video games aren't worth playing if I can't play as myself
>>731018515Yeah, I do.
>>731018646No you don't you fucking faggot
>>731018515>Looks at their handsHm...do you mean the reference or actual source of the image? Seems like AI.
>>731018515What you mean what it's referencing?Yeah it's a Black Souls 2 picture
>>731018709I wanna murder the faggot who made it for getting the details wrong
>>731017293Because of memes I guessUnless he studied Black Silence or something
>>731018150He broke you.
>>731018515AI genned by a guy on discord.
>>731019142report him for being a pedophile and spreading CSAM
>>731019187Well I'd have to be on there first, just saying it based on the youtube video source description.
>>730998728>gameplayHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAMY SIDES >press winrate with Heishou team>if it doesn't work, read the passives and redirect attacksW O W
Shiori was a pretty good character along with Rien, others were more of a fun to see but not to think about kind of characters.
>>731002243Dead? All the Blue Clowns died.
>>731019221>>if it doesn't work, readSee?Do you see?
>>731018515I did it, you like it?
>>731019221>>press winrate with Heishou teamYupgoes to show just how utterly shit AAA games are nowadays
>>731019242Didn't 1/3rd of him escape the Library?
>>730989289looks fucking retardedbut you seanigs will perpetually keep these pointless companies in business
>>731019259Reported
>>7310193062/3rds of him were archived as "unstable page", but idk whether he will see the light of day or that unstable page never ended up getting unbooked due to its nature.
>>731019306That was the precursor to him having a public melty and Xioa being introduced. He went back in and died with the rest of Argalia's posse.
Honestly Callisto was the most fun out of the lot. Him being genuinely open to criticism and other perspectives on his art was an interesting spin on the "mad artist" concept.
>>731019306That's the part that came back with the Ensemble
Rien being a copycat would've been handled better if he was meant to be an imitation of Kali despite that also being flagrant clapbait. Roland is just a strong Grade 1 Fixer, Kali is the supposed strongest Color there was and has a history of killing Proxies. Then you would at least have the justification that the Will of the City is trying to create stronger Proxies to enforce its will rather than making OC donut steel fusions of Roland x Argalia. The best way to handle it would've been to not make him an imitation of a known character at all and just be someone that gave up his old life at the behest of the prescripts only to still lose everything.
Did Gregor ate relic dodge eye too?
>>731019254No, because this isn't "good gameplay". Are you saying fucking CRPGs have amazing gameplay solely because you sometimes need to read what each ability does? Are you retarded? This is game is a glorified autobattler.>>731019272Fucking FIFA has better gameplay than Limbus. It's pathetic.
>>731019242Only his apathy died
>>731019516>Fucking FIFAFIFA isn't a game
>>731019564Oh no they changed the name to something else, who the fuck cares.
>>731019516I think 80% of the playerbase can agree with the idea that Limbus isn't interesting gameplay wise, why waste time arguing about it?
>>731019503I'm fairly sure he copied not Roland but Black Silence who was a color
>>731019640Because they are still retards saying this game has amazing gameplay.
>>731019674No he copied Roland. The Black Silence was Angelica. He died in the same exact alleyway as Roland in his bad ending, had a my wife and child are dead backstory, dyed his hair black and took a new name starting with R.
>>731019674He's specifically a copy of Roland as mentioned by Callisto. He was also made to watch Argalia to copy his scythe techniques for some reason.
>>731019771>>731019798Huh might have missed that. If it's true yea it's but a clapbait.
Roadmap when?
>>731019976
>>731020136How the FUCK do they know about some no name grade 9 bitchboy?
>>731020128anniversary stream
>>731020184Hermes, the god of the beeper, knows way more shit than even the prescripts. In Sora Don's uptie story the Index Father gets a beep that tells him both where Don is and that she is a second kindred bloodfiend.
>>731020281I think a more impressive feat for the will of city is the fact they somehow know about Faust being part of a Gesellschaft, which... how the fuck does it know.
>>731020136Damn and here I thought he was copying Adachi
>>731020451If we can take Yan's story at face value (which we might not), the Prescript is the collective will of everyone in the City- so it'd naturally include the will of Faust.
>>731020184The Will of the City knowing who he is I can get, it's basically an extremely accurate prediction algorithm that can influence itself through the prescripts it gives. An exiled Maestro knowing about him kind of defeats the purpose of wearing a perception blocking mask to hide your identity but maybe he was just told about Roland by Rien. The Will of the City wanting to make a copy of him is where I draw the line and just call it pandering.
>>731020541I don't think it's necessarily clapbait, or if it is, that it is merely hollow. The prescripts were also trying to create an artificial yan, and Rien was meant to be a weird fusion of argalia and roland. There's more to it but naturally we wont hear about it for a while
>>731020184He was Angela's assistant, so literally everyone who went to the library and faced the Floor of General Works would have seen him.
>>731020541or alternatively Calisto asked Rien about it and he just said it was some fixer who died to the library. Which is believable because the Library mulched so many people.
>>731020184>>731020657rien would have needed to start the LARP before roland even met angelica for the timeline to make sense. Somethings fucky and it might be the director's writing or the will of the city
>>731020184>>731020281The Hana association knew Roland was in the Library before going there, since the prescripts read every vibration in the City it's to be expected.But figuring out shit like the exact location Roland would've died in the bad end is some absurd level of keikakuing.
So the only Fingers that you can't easily leave is the Index and the Middle?Vespa left the Thumb at some point and he's doing fine since his taboo hunter days. Ring had those former members of a pointillist group that helped N Corp during Canto 6 and the Pinky seems to give much freedom to their members with how the Dihui Star spoke about her days before the Spider House, so they could probably not have you follow many requirements or punishments in order to allow your exit.
>>731020630I think it's less a fusion of Argalia and Roland and more them trying to do Roland but not really *getting* it. Like, they just do the base concepts of Roland- dead wife and child, shifting weapon, black hair- like they're following a recipe, so they just shoved Argaliaisms somewhere there because Argalia is important to Roland. But they don't really get it, so the end result is completely different.
>>731020738The way Rien dies exactly where Roland does in his bad end makes me think Hermes is somehow trying to correct fate. I almost think that originally Roland WAS supposed to bad end, but because he didn't Hermes has to have a copycat die there or something.
>>731020780the thumb is probably VERY hard to leave and vespa is just built different. A soldato asking his superior to leave would be assumed to be a great disrespect
Roland pre-Library was one of the most "The City" people in existence. The Will of the City liked that. It predicted him, and that he would (somehow) have a chance to escape its influence one day, so it wanted a backup.
>>730989289Every scene it just becomes more and more clear the SHITclair is the Retardrector's self insert. No one likes him yet he keeps getting jerked off by KJH.
>all that hype>ducks the fightI wanted him to claim bones as revenge for his junior getting disarmed.
>>731020889You can be booted out, and people don't seem to hunt you down for it.
>>731020780With the Index I feel like it would be up to if the Will of the City lets you, it could even drop members who are no longer needed in its plans.
Why did Rien even agree to all of that again
>>730989289do you have the webm for him finishing off calisto too?
>>731020923>52 votedSinclair had the 2nd most sold limbus plushie during the release week of those. Trailing only don quixote. GODclair game
>>731021015Why did an Index agree to Prescripts?
>>731021015Like most Index goons, he is desperately trying to escape his own free will.
