What is their fucking problem?
>>731022972EVIL FUCKING COMPANY
>>731022972Shit like this is why Nagoshi said that this collaboration was embarrassing to Sega btw. He knew better than any of them that Nintendo is a pain in the ass to work with, plus these games weren't even very good. The sales were not worth the long term reputational damage these did, and even the fucking IOC noticed how the novelty wore off and that the games sucked very quickly.
>>731023089Sonic was brutally raped in the happy pink autumn of 2007
This happens in real life. Government officials want their hand facing the camera.
>>731022972but their feet are next to each other
lmao that is literally the base definition of a humiliation ritual. "Yeah. Yeah, I AM telling you to put Mario's foot a centimeter further than Sonic's. Do it. You're gonna do it. Kiss the fucking ring."
>>731023239Nagoshi cocksuckers are such a fucking embarrassmentThat guy sold out for chinese money and instantly made a shitty yakuza knockoff, he's in the running for most pathetic japanese developers next to keiji inafune and yuji naka
>>731023357They should have sonic sleeping at the start because it would be too easy
>>731023239>long term reputational damage these didYeah, the Olympics spin off is what ruined Sonic's reputation. Not the 25 years straight of dogshit mainline games. LMAO
>>731022972>obvious slam dunk of Mario winning high and long jump while Sonic wins all the sprint events>could have had a GTA style cover showing multiple events with different characters winning>MAKE MARIO AND SONIC RACE BUT MARIO IS WINNINGI hate Nintendo so motherfucking much
>>731023357>you have to imply mario is faster than sonic>This not at all an embarrassing thing to demand when the least of all of Mario's non-character traits he doesn't have is being fast
>>731023249KWAB
>>731023423>guy gives you your annual release property on a silver platter>treat him like shit>GRRR NAGOSHI COCKSUCKERShe may be taking chingchong money but Like a Korean Dragon looks better than anything from Yakuza in the last decade
>>731023089Those tights are way too tiny.
>>731023687The trailer was pathetic, try again marketer
>>731023634This. Sonic has 1 thing, he's fast....maybe he jumps high, maybe he does that ball thing, maybe he's got attitude, but Sonics defininb feature is GO FAST. So forcing Mario to be faster than Sonic is a humiliation ritual for sega
>>731023605I mean, if we're getting into it, Sonic absolutely trounces mario on long jumps but off of a flat surface, yeah mario probably can jump higher. It's like, the one attribute he's sort of known for.
>>731022972Of course Nintendo would want to represent glorious Nippon in the Olympics with their best foot forward. It's common sense.
>>731022972Mario is faster than Sonic. Everyone knows that.
>>731023832Sure, but Mario has a Long Jump ability, so its like "fuck it, you can have the long jump, jumpman"
>>731022972>ummm keep that blue leeching jobber behind
>>731023520The Olympics have been more thrilling than ever, what the fuck are you talking about? The medal count in the last decade alone blows everything prior away. What do you want?
>>731023423Without him or Atlus Sega would have made literally no fucking money from 2010-2020 or so. He correctly determined that Sonic Team were incompetent retards and funded them accordingly, meanwhile the best Sega game of the 2010s is from his franchise. Cope.
>>731024318Nah the Olympics are gaytanic(portmanteau of Gay and Satanic) now
>>731024395absolute delusion, go back to china if you love it so much
>>731024415>Another American Protestant that doesn't understand Europe's long tradition of blasphemy as a joke to counter domination under the feudal clergyGo get a latte at your church's coffee shop and calm down before the laser light show starts
>>731024395They need to give Sonic to the autists like LakeFepard or at least force every Dev and codemonkey to play city escape and make them fill out a form about how it makes them feel and how they plan to recapture that feeling.Frontiers was cool but it was wholly lacking everything that scratches the autistic sonic fan itch save for the buttrock boss battles, but even those aren't fucking fun to play
>>731024525>"Yes, I do in fact prefer Sonic Boom and Sonic Lost World to Yakuza 0"lol
>>731024526>haha were being ironic amerila-gets stabbed to death by rapegang MuslimsHAHA, WELL MEMED!
>>731024552The last time Sega gave Sonic to a competent dev team (Sonic Mania) it made them so jealous I don't think it will ever happen again.
>>731022972SEGA WON, NINTENDO STILL SEETHING
Reminder Sonic has had nothing but good games since 2022 yet retards who don't play the series will say dumb shit like this >>731024645
>>731023239>the long term reputational damage these didIn my eyes the only damage these games really did was make it clear an actual crossover delegated for just the two series was never going to happen. But since the issue was their cooperation in the first place, that likely wouldn't have been any better.
>>731024645The leaked documents from before forces came out was very funny thoughever>yeah mania is cool, but just you wait tol Forces comes out and revolutionizes the way people look at Sonic!>heh, 2D yeah right! Real sonic fans want that 3D SPEED ACTION GOODNESS>ranks lower than Rise of Lyric
>>731023917Mario is either Italian, or American. Or Mushroomian.
>>731024769I see one passable game and a neat level pack for a decade old safe throwaway game with one of the worst final bosses in the history of sonic
>>731024583>Sega fans on bihourly which kusoge sucks less competition
Remind me, what platforms was this game on again?
>>731024552>Frontiers was cool but it was wholly lacking everything that scratches the autistic sonic fan itch save for the buttrock boss battles, but even those aren't fucking fun to playHit the nail on the head. For me, it was the levels looking so fucking DULL. Like, even Lost World from Adventure, another ancient place with lost of history, looked better than it, and that was on the fucking Dreamcast.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thu0hZrgofk
>>731024395>Nagoshi is so much better than Sonic Team and we should all suck his dick and buy his new masterpiece>Dialogue in Nagoshi's new masterpiece: If WE'RE going to this then we're going to do it MY WAY *sounds of constipation* THE RIGHT WAY *sounds of constipation*Imagine defending, without a hint of irony "Breaking Bad dubbed by anime voice actors"I have never seen something so pathetic in my life. Even Rise of Lyric is less sad and pathetic. Hell Eggman sounded more natural in Lost World when he's threatening the Zeti than that abomination of a voice track in that retard's new game.
>>731022972Sonicbabbies have managed to (barely) improve their terrible reputation with insincere self-deprecation and unfunny, dogshit ironic memes, but threads like this just prove how petulant and autistic they are. Still seething about a fight they lost over 30 years ago. Pathetic.
>>731025264I always point to the Sonic storybook series.Fucking awful games, but the cutscenes and attitude of Sonic are still firmly in the "hell yeah" category.
>>731024395The issue with Sonic team is that the games were always treated as just another arm of the Sonic Brand and so were first condemned to year release which cannot be done well in 3D and then after that model blew up Sonic Team because the training ground for new Sega devs before they got poached to other teams meaning that in that 2010-2020 period they quite literally didn't really have the capability to improve since every game was a freshman project for a vast swathe of the team.The important part of Frontiers is that Sonic team now gets to exist as a real team with reasonable time to work on games and unless they are absolute idiots Frontiers will be the bedrock to be improved upon for future games in all regards.
>>731022972It's as if nintendoshit is soulless or something
These games always felt like weird edutainment games with very shallow fanservice appeal.But like... Olympic minigame collections have historically always sucked, so was there any real hope of it being any good?
>>731024839>Frontiers, a game fans and critics enjoyed>Superstars, another game fans and critics enjoyed >Murder of Sonic, another game fans and critics enjoyed >Dream Team, another game fans and critics enjoyed>Shadow Gens, another game fans and critics enjoyed and also has some of the best boost levels in the franchiseOh yeah no, Sonic is totally bad now bro. I trust a disgruntled 30 year old on /v/ mad that he isn't getting his Adventure 1 remake over everyone else
>>731024839Was this intended as a response to a different post?
>>731025717Oh yeah superstars is phenomenal
>>731025867Do you REALLY want to use metacritic?.are you SURE about that? Because I guarantee the Sonic games you dicksuck are not gonna look good up there
>>731025645Unironically the DS versions were better since they had a proper adventure mode rather than just being a minigame compilation.Winter Olympics DS was the shit.
>>731026001>well unleashed is bad too!Yeah I know
>>731026058Ah so now you wanna backtrack after realizing the shit you grew up with aren't rated very high Moving on then
>>731024893>>>/vt/ranny
>>731026131>you're backtracking!When did I say unleashed was good? Sonic has had mostly bad games after Adventure 2 save the odd racing game
>>731026015I've heard that and that does sound like a better experience. But the core gameplay is still... kinda mediocre minigames with low skill ceilings.
>>731026235If I remember right, a lot of the ds Olympics games were decently hard in the "Scratch a giant circle into your touch screen" kind of way
>>731026217>after Adventure 2>>731026131>Ah so now you wanna backtrack after realizing the shit you grew up with aren't rated very high >Moving on then
>>731023239Good ass music, though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykTe1X_6yX0
>>731026372So is adventure 2 bad (like superstars)Or is superstars phenomenal (it isn't) like adventure 2Remember that a 70 in the early 00s was honestA 70 in 2020 is a death sentence
>>731026598I dunno but apparently Adventure 1 is a terrible game
>>731026372>pulling up the GameCube demasterSmdh my damn head, cuh-posted from my metropcs smartphone
>>731026773The Dreamcast reviews have the "farewell Sega" bonus because everyone thought that was the final Sonic gameThe GCN reviews are the actual thoughts on the game
Imagine defending 2010 sonic games
GOD DAMMIT YOU FAT FUCKING PLUMBER STOP TAKING EVERYTHING AWAY FROM ME
>The Toyko 2020 one would have been this hyper autistic Smash-tier crossover if things went as planned. Would have been funny seeing a whole bunch of rosterfaggotry over a shovelware spinoff, lol.
>>731026898Superstars has the 2d sonic drought bonusNone of the Sonic heads like superstars, it's just Sonic 4:2
>>731022972How fucking autistic are you to care about this?
>>731027004At least he won't take your woman
>>731027126>2D droughtYeah nice try it doesn't work like that. In that case Forces would've gotten good reviews since it went 4 years without a 3D Sonic
>>731027258oops
>>731027173If you were following the thread it's just a Nagoshi dick slurper shitting on Sonic to prop up the whiny chigyu that ran away to china when things stopped going his way.
>>731027173Ask nintendo since they are
>>731027305Forces did get a bonus, that's how bad it is
>>731027380Whatever you say
>>731027331>"EH? YEAH SURE BRO, YOU CAN TAKE THAT CRAZY BITCH, GOOD LUCK DUDE!">"HEY MARIO, YOU DON'T MIND IF I SHOW YOUR GIRL A GOOD TIME RIGHT? DON'T WORRY, I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE KISSING PRETTY HUMAN GIRLS!"
>>731027403Okay cool, and I say Frontiers is the only decent recent Sonic game and it lacks soul
>>731023239>these games weren't even very goodfuck you, Vancouver 2010 and London 2012 on Wii were one of the best party games ever created
>>731027510Whatever you say
>>731027482>official render>fanart copelollmao
>>731023348That's probably the idea. Both wanted their character to be ahead of the other and the only compromise was them in perfectly equal balance
>>731027551
>>731027553>official render that doesn't reflect the game>Official GAMEPLAY that reflects the gameYou lost
>>731022972>wanting Mario to be portrayed as faster than Sonic Humiliation ritual.
>>731027594Damn, Sonic is pumping Mario's "good friend" Peach with hedgehog cock!?!?!?Maribros, it's Mariover
>>731022972This sounds stupid but maybe it's because I never see Sonic running from this angle, but should his feet be positioned like that? Does he actually run by kicking his leg behind him in such a way? And the way his forward facing foot is curved bugs me too, am I autisitc or does it look weird to anyone else?
>>731022972so uhm which artwork? it's certainly not the one shown here since no one is front of the other and he says:>There was artwork of Mario and Sonic and other characters standing on the field, and those artworks were used for the package, instruction manual, cover, the cartridge label, and things like that>There was one small error and Sonic’s foot was in front of Mario’s foot, and Nintendo demanded us to change the priority. I still remember that. We were like ‘Oh my God, we have to change it or there will be no deal.'”https://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-demanded-sega-to-put-marios-foot-in-front-of-sonics-for-mario-sonic-at-the-olympic-games/Sounds like it was just said in jest?
>>731027772It's because they're jumping hurdles
>>731022972Nintendo wouldn't have cared if Sega didn't initially portray one of the two as being superior to the other.
>>731023239>The sales were not worth the long term reputational damage these didAre you joking? These games, at worst, were forgettable. Sonic had plenty of genuinely bad games, games that were mocked for years by the Internet. These games were at least something that could have people acknowledge Sonic without it immediately becoming extremely negative about the overall state of Sonic.That and the costumes. These games at least helped keep Sonic relevant in a manner that wasn't strictly negative/at the IPs expense.
>>731027839Ahhh thank you
>>731025867Goal post movingSuperstar suffers from like 3 things and it’s > not sonic mania 2> 2 bad level designs> 3 bad boss designs/boss battles take too long
>>731025371Everything HE actually wrote is good. Don't tell me you're confusing Yokoyama slop with him.
>>731027942Where's the>feels like shit to play>low budget shitty art and assets that make it look like a phone game
Based, Sonic should be thankfull to even be on the same stadium with Mario
>>731023239>>731027864yeah if anything sonic should be glad he gets to run on the same track as mario at allthat dude a b-lister at this point, maybe even c
>>731027369Nintendo can care, because it's their fucking brand, as stupid as it is. I'm talking about people who have no financial investment in this shit.
>>731028079>/v/ video gamesBesides the point is that, if anything, this fact being made public just makes them look bad.
>>731028079>Making fun of companies means you care about itSounds like you're projecting, sorry your company is considered retarded by everyone else
>>731027523Hell yeah, the first game was mid but the first winter games was great all the way. Played that game for hours on end. Unfortunately I never got the chance to try out London 2012 but I'm looking forward to visiting it one day. People who say these games sucked just really haven't given it a chance, they're far more creative than people tend to give them credit for.also I lost The Game
>>731025717>Frontiers, a game fans and critics enjoyed>what makes you like it?it has xyz - said the sonic autist>but didn't forces also have xyz?yea, but that doesn't count!Oh right, those amazing reviews!>Murder of Sonic, another game fans and critics enjoyed>One of THE best games in a decade about a fast blue rat is the slowest type of game genre, a game where the main rat is literally not present and you play as dome dev's oc
>>731028237if you genuinely care about this at all, you're either <90iq or have some form of autismmaybe both
>>731028260I also liked Rio 2016 on Wii U but it scaled everything back and you could tell they didn't care about the games anymore. Tokyo 2020 could've been SO good and the fumbled it hard, it's so fucking soulless
>>731022972since when is Mario as fast as Sonic anyway? and if its through items I thought doping was illegal?
>>731022972Actual humiliation ritual
This reminds me of an article I once read about how politicians and CEOs that have to make public meetings with their competitors will carefully plan out things like which side of the stage they walk on from just to ensure that when they shake hands that their hand is more visible to the cameras than the other guy's hand. And everyone knows what they're doing so they'll try to subtly juke around to switch spots with them without causing a commotion. That sort of thing. People get really psychotic when they care about their image like that.
>>731027331Amy is older than Mario by 10 years in this.Why? I find older women hot as fuck.
>>731030357Mario is eternally 25 and Amy is 14? What
>>731028419>Rio 2016I always thought it was funny that this one is absurdly expensive for some reason, lol
>>731030598Don't ruin my fantasy of fucking hags >:(
>>731023239>reputational damageWtf lol, is this what nerds actually think? I liked those games and I played them when I was like 11.
>>731030598Sonic ages are not canon anymore
>>731027990I'm not talking about Yakuza you dumbfuck. I mean his new game. The one that was proudly shown at the gay awards with that abomination that dares to call itself voice acting.
>>731022972It was for lore accuracy. I see nothing wrong with that.
>>731031002He doesn't say that in the trailer.
>>731030714afaik they didn't produce much and it sold poorly which doesn't surprise me. I just pirated it.
>>731030727Erm internet nerds made fun of Sonic dood
>>731027331I haven't really been interested in Sonic games past Sonic Adventure 2, wouldn't Sonic be happy that Amy is no longer annoying him? Unless they changed something in recent games to where they're a couple, he always wanted nothing to do with her.
>>731023348Other than the feet I can see Mario in front of Sonic. Nintendo asking for too much.
Mario: Do that dance I like before I cancel my crossover contract and send your franchise back to the projectsSissynic:
>>731022972Mario actually was faster if you counted pixels per frame.
>>731023140Is Robotnik trying to shoot Sonic with a real gun? I guess I'm too slow for the joke. Took me too long to notice.
>>731023249Was he really?
>>731023239Nobody thinks Sonic's rep dragged due to being in an Olympics game with Mario.That's illogical nonsense.
embarrassing
>>731035068What I meant was that Nagoshi thought collaborating with Nintendo on a minigame collection was humiliating.
>>731025717Frontiers was shit though
>>731022972Lol I made a thread about this earlier and it went nowhere lol>>731023239I'm surprised the partnership lasted for as long as it did
>>731023249Why was he announced to be in Brawl then?
>>731034584fraid so
>>731022972They were autistic about how Bowser holds a teacup so I'm not surprised.
>>731035754They weren't as autistic about princess peach being a princess
>>731023239>"put our mascots on equal enough footing">NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>731023239>Sonic being put behind made sonic look badI never noticed until this post. Sonic's reputation is shit due to>shit content>shit fandom
>>731035480Yes yes we know anon
>>731035754desu i think i remember seeing behind the scenes screenshots of that and bowser was originally so small his feet didn't even reach the ground from the chair he was sitting on, Nintendo were right to get autistic over it
>>731023645Knuckles was always based?
The more I watch the 35th Anniversary video the more I can't help but realize It’s an Anniversary so it’s 100% justified but I think this is the last year I can deal with Sonic looking back so much, at least until the 40th.It’s not as impactful to have these look backs when every Sonic game indulges in the past so much with locales/dialogue.What's your favorite Green Hill callback? Mines is Sunset Hill from Advance 3 at least they got creative with that one.
>>731037139I miss 90s American Sonic. but present day sonic team pretends it never was.
>>731037139>What's your favorite Green Hill callback?Seaside Hill has such a strong identity that people forget it's even a Green Hill callback to begin with
>>731025867>Classic Slopic in the 2020sSuperstars feels and looks like a 2010s game honestly
>>731037139>What's your favorite Green Hill callback?There's one fucking issue with the games
>>731027331Why have I not seen any R34 of this pairing at all? Its an official render too btwYou would think they would get tons of cute lewds together. I'm not opposed to Sonic X Peach too, In fact I love "Partner Swap" as a tag with the unconventional ships. Its underrated imo.
>>731037139God Sunset Hill was so good, had a blast playing that on the GBA. When the hell are we getting an Advance Trilogy set?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRFB0ces40EBut you are correct, like with Green Hill stages constatly coming back during the 10's, Sonic's callbacks in general have lost their luster greatly. Like, remember how super cool it was when SA2 had a 3D version of Green Hill as a 100% completion reward?
>>731038602some turbo autist is working on an Advance 2 decompilation, apparently once that's finished 1 & 3 should be comparably easy to decomp
>>731032691It's about the samehttps://youtu.be/KX2pzle9dkE?t=54
>>731037632Mariochads are too busy jerking it to actually canonically curvy women like Peach, Daisy, Rosalina, and Pauline. Sonichuds are the ones stuck pretending that the noodle-legged cereal box mascots are actually attractive and they'd never draw Mario with one of their hilariously off-model waifus.
>>731023792They've been putting Sonic in a car for years.
Sonic copes still crying decades later. Sonic lost over and over, even got a world lost. It's time to get over it.
>>7310247405 good games, ostensibly, and 1 of them is a racing game(barely counts as sonic), one of them is superstars, which actually sucked from what i heard, another is half port of sonic generations, and the last is an apple arcade game. part of it is that they just dont fucking release games but its still grim
>>731037632Mario is not for sex he is for hand holding and one kiss
>>731023239>NagoshiThe big skeleton motherfucker with the giant hat?
>>731023239>IOC noticed how the novelty wore off and that the games sucked very quickly.Their opinion is worthless now that they've given the rights to Olympic vidya to a fucking NFT dev.
>>731039426Can't argue with that, just look at Peach here in Tennis Fever!
>>731023239>He knew better than any of them that Nintendo is a pain in the ass to work with,Weird causePlatinum StarMercury SteamRTetro StudiosNext Level GamesBamcoKoie TecmoBrace Yourself GamesFromsoftetcAll say Nintendo is incredibly easy to work wth and offers ample assistance.Maybe Nagoshi is a talentless hack with too much undeserved ego.
