Most overrated map in TF2
>>731029550That's not badwater.
>>731029550agreednow here's the best map
>>731030219payload as a whole is overrated slop
>People always voting Harvest when one of your options is cascade or even viaductUnironically will vote brazil over harvest and not just for the name but its a good map
>>731029550upward and badwater are good, the people who hate it are just being contrarians because they're popular. these maps are popular for a reason, they are classic and well designed
>>731030284Powerhouse won, sorry Dustbowl
>>731029550WOOOOSH *bone crack*
>>731031138brazil is a really fun mapgenerally don't care for harvest myself
>Wait forever for them to add Slaughter>Valve adds Laughter which is the halloween variant so you cant play it year round>They decide to add Boardwalk which you CAN play year roundIs a meat slaughterhouse too dark or something?
>>731029550too me this is forced soulit's trying to be good like dustbowl or goldrush, but none of the points are fun to deal with, like it's trying to please everyone
It's beginning to look a lot like DustbowlSeeenntries everywheeere
>>731030219Badwater first is literally perfect. Its everything else that isn't that good.
>Fun mode and map that 90% of the playerbase doesnt know how to even play because its tucked away in the misc section
>>731029550never made sense to me that tf2 players complain about sniper all the time but play maps like this
Egypt is my favorite. I have heard all of your arguments against it already and I don't care. It's still my favorite.
>>731032062Sniper mains are 100% the ones voting for maps like this and swiftwater in the same way gunslinger engies (me) vote for bad maps like megaton (another insane sniper map). It lets the class get away with being as aggressive as possible with little risk.
>>731031959atleast you can play it during halloween, i will never be able to play arena again.
The only good map
>>731032356Halloween actually has some really good arena adjacent maps now like Perks and Afterlife. Afterlife was broken at first but they did fix it and it was the best map of halloween 2025 for me.
>>731032307if the sniper isn't a god in human form that can headshot a demoman flying and strafing through the air at max acceleration (which 99% of snipers aren't) then there's viable counterplay thanks to the lack of invisible walls stopping this
>>731030301I like payload because I can just stand next to the cart and have my score go up without killing anyone.
>>731029550Best: Process, Badwater, SunshineWorst: Wutville, Junction, DemolitionOverrated: Upward, Borneo, GullywashUnderrated: Kong King, Landfall, Double CrossOverhated: Barnblitz, Mercenary Park, Mountain LabUnderhated: Suijin, Steel, SwiftwaterGuilty Pleasure: Dustbowl, Gold Rush, FrontierPersonal Favorite: Harvest, Granary, Nucleus
>>731031959It also isnt the meta of diving head first in the center and getting the best spells. TD is the best mode
>>731032547Its anecdotal but 99% of the time i play Upward, its hyper competent players on defense. Like the sniper is just gonna let a demo jump at him and isnt equipping jarate/bushwhacka to defend himself against you. You might get him once or twice, sure. Let alone ignoring his entire team like the friendly engie that will absolutely be next to that sniper to assist him cause its Upward. Aquarius is a modern map and it heavily restricts snipers sightlines and actually makes jarate weaker cause of all the water too not that water should be on EVERY map but yeah.The answer to any class destroying the pace of a game is either a map issue, weapon design issue or both. The answer to a kunai/DR spy eating your entire F2P team shouldnt be "swap to pyro and hard focus them" because i dont have to do that with any spy using stock, he would be dead after 1 stab even if theyre a trick stabber.
>best koth map in the game>valve won't add it but they will add the haloween versionwhy the fuck?
>>731033748Yeah i play Cauldron every halloween and its the same problem as Laughter where they refuse to add the original map.
>>731033798?
Dustbowl is worse map
Why are more spies using red tape recorder now?
Had like 3 or 4 bots my on team yesterday, are they making a comeback now.
>>731034896Ive only seen idle bots who just stay in limbo and you cant kick them but they eventually get auto kicked. So all valve would need to do to stop that is not let players sit outside of spectate since it doesnt exist in casual anyway.
tc_hydro BROS WW@
I only use matchmaking for Saxton Hale servers since all talk is on and there's always someone mic spamming so it's just like being on old community servers
>>731034223people realized that disabling buildings and leveling them down is actually more useful in certain cases than straight up destroying them as spy
>>731035117It also highlights how much of a problem the round limit is. VSH goes all the way up to 15 rounds, more than enough for players to talk and familiarize with each other. Every other mode except Payload or Dustbowl ends in 1-3 rounds, and then half the server fucks off before the map reload.
>>731035515Depending on the map and team stacks people also dont want to lose again but on opposite teams and scramble isnt in casual
>>731037290>Scramble isn't in casualgood old days
>>731037472>that webm LOL >:[
>>731031138>>731031574brazil is good because you aren't forced into sniper sightlines like harvest
>One of the most fun maps from last smissmas is matterhorn>They kept Gavle year round but not matterhorn
>>731038813why were both teams drinking mugs of frothy piss anyway
>>731031829WE ARE TRAPPED INSIDE OUR SPAWN
>>731031285people who hate them do so because they can't find games anywhere else. No one queues for fucking anything but 2fort, Harvest, Dustbowl and the same 2 payload maps over and over
>>731029550For me it's barnblitz, the worst tf2 map.
>>731034223RTR can gigatroll battle engies (particularly, F.Justice engies), the RTR takes forever to kill even a mini compared to the zapper, meaning that you have a larger window of time to swiss cheese the engie
>>731029550its literally almost perfect but final point benefits too much from turtling on defense, and the long sight line section beforehand doesnt really have enough going on
I haven't played since the introduction of the secretary women in a comic or somthign years ago. It was already starting to become bloated with ridiculous sets, but I got the itch to homerun some people. How is it these days?
>>731040357Valve servers are 100x more inconvenient to play because of a new matchmaking system, and the homerun weapon among many others got nerfed into the ground.
>Youre on your way to Bread Space
>>731042068
>>731030284>https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/6/6c/Sentry_scan3.wav
It's the best payload map and was always kino on community servers
>>731042352I like stage 1 but not stage 2 so much even if the design is iconic
>>731042068>it's a Red team gets lost and goes to last episode
>>731042279>Youre on your way to Maul
fuck this map
ATTENTION SHOPPAS
>>731030219Blackedwater
>>731031138>be on viaduct>everyone tries their absolute hardest to be active on the point and to fight for medpacks and space, high tension and fun game, lots of good moments and back and forth>changes to harvest>suddenly everyone just starts jerking off in a corner doing nothing, ignoring the point completely, game ends with one team owning the point the whole roundI hate harvest, not since it's a bad map, but since it for some reason makes all the players collectively stop trying
