>Adam's augs are several decades older those of JC's>JC even jokes that those old augs are obsolete>both games claim that prosthetics are barbaric and limited>yet Adam's augs are more powerful than those of JC and has more abilities
Lets see Adam's GEP gun
Adam's augs are very, very experimental prototypes.About "more abilities", just ascribe that to prequel crap. Big Boss had way more of an arsenal (MGS3) than Solid Snake (MGS1), even though MGS3 was set during the 70s while MGS1 was 2005.
yeah the writing wasn't a strong suit in either of the games.gunther hermann, despite supposedly being an "outdated clank" is far more dangerous than both jc and and simons.
Wasn't adams args built for military use?While JCs was just for police work?
>>731063321Did you miss both parts where Adam was essentially dead and people stuck a bunch of experimental tech in him. First Sarif and then the illuminati. Both more interested in seeing what the tech could do since Adam’s body doesn’t reject augs. Yes that makes him a super special boy, but also explains how he can be a walking metal gear. In the end we will never know, I guesd Illuminati caught up to him, but in my headcanon he is still underground undermining Page. That smirk at the end of Criminal Past tells me he knows the shrink is the mole. Or rather, the shrink is Illuminati. The pilot is the mole.
>>731063321Aren't Adam's Augs unsafe, and experimental?
>>731063321yes, yes, nuDeus Ex lived on esthetics alone, we know that for many years.
>>731063321jcd jumps over adam j using targeting aug and turning his skull to red mist with sniper rifle, while having ballistic and regeneration augs on standby
>>731063367Now that's terror.
>>731063794>That smirk at the end of Criminal Past tells me he knows the shrink is the mole. Or rather, the shrink is Illuminati. The pilot is the mole.now im upset about the lack of a sequel again. that last conversation was so good.
>>731063569Both paul and jc were sent on a mission to assassinate tracer tong, they were intended to be super powered glowniggers.
>>731063321Adam is pretty much a resurrected angel, an engineered super human being. His struggle was mostly about disassociation between body and soul. JC was more about combination of a computer intelligence and a human mind, a post human.
>>731063321>yet Adam's augs are more powerful than those of JC and has more abilitiesAdam doesn't even have a swimming skill
>>731063321
Adam's prosthetics are literally cutting edge tech only possible because they can cut him up as much as possible until he's basically Smasher.Besides, pure power is not the point of JC's augs. They are unintrusive and perfect for a stealth operative.
>>731063321Adam is basically Gunther and Navarre era, but simply happened to be equipped with cutting edge tech.
>>731063794>In the end we will never knowWe do know. You can find Adam Jensen's corpse in Mankind Divided in the Versalife vault.
>>731063321UNATCO HQ theme is now playing and stuck in your brain.
>>731063321Trying to reconcile HR/MD with Deus Ex is a losing game. The original has land phones and alien clones
>>731065692>Adam's prosthetics are literally cutting edge tech only possible because they can cut him up as much as possible until he's basically Smasher.He's still a lot more powerful than agents Gunther and Navarre, despite them being just as augmented as Adam and getting virtually unlimited access to what were the best augmentations during their generation.
What the fuck did you want them to do, have augs that are even more worthless than in the original because muh canon?
>>731063321>yet Adam's augs are more powerful than those of JC and has more abilities
>>731065243>now im upset about the lack of a sequel againAt least they won't pull the "Adam Jensen from MD is actually a clone" plot twist they were setting up before Phantom Pain did pretty much the same reveal
>>731065856Yes, internal consistency would've been nice.Or, you know, don't make a prequel.
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>>731065776i never did find that thing. how does clone adam react?
>>731065776Adam Jensen died in the intro to the first game, the one you play later is also a clone.
>>731065776we don't know for sure if it's a dead original or another copy or what else
>>731063321Did you play MD? He has untapped military grade augs
>>731063321>>731065985>taking gameplay elements this literally
Who wins in a fight?
>>731064161So are JC's and Paul's.Both are essentially cloned from Adam with the purpose of creating super soldiers and to test nanomachine augmentations.
>>731066410V, he is magics compared to Adam, even without memevistan.
>>731063321JC has an aug that destroys all projectiles shot at him. That's pretty busted
>jc denton can eat dozens of candy bars, bags of onions food, and soda cans in less than a minute>is not shown shitting or pissing even ONCE despite the game obviously taking course over a few daysWhat the fuck? Did they ever explain this? Where does all of the food go? How does JC drink 20 cans of soda a day without having to piss even once?
>>731065856Yes, it's a stealth game, the agent doesn't need to break walls with his bare hands, heal gunshot wounds in 5 seconds, fall from skyscrapers without damage, turn invisble or have a magnetic shield that protects him from bullets.Just being stronger than the average human, with more durability, thermal/night vision and being able to detect other living beings and cameras is enough to make an interesting game.
>>731066520His bladder is augmented.
>>731066520100% efficient integrated super recycling, he leaves zero traces. No skin flakes or hair either. Doesn't even fart.
Adam was weaker than JC despite some flashier tech though. Once JC has the speed and jump aug to level 3/4 he is easily the strongest in the setting gameplay/storywise.
>>731066520augmentations consume a lot of energy
>Jesus Christ, Denton>JC Dentonwtffff
>dude adam jensen is like an ultra strong robocop>meanwhile he can't even punch two times in a row without waiting 30 seconds in between or eating a protein barWhy is adam so weak? Even I could punch twice in a row without having to rest, is he really weaker than the average person?
>>731066770His augmentation are based on XBOX360 tech, please understand.
>>731065985Not making a prequel would have been easy if it wasn't for the original games literally ending their entire universe by hypersentient promethean accelerationist turbo-AI
>>731066847>he doesn't knowOne of the plans for the next game was a sequel to invisible war where you're rebelling against JC's singularity utopia.
>>731065985>Yes, internal consistency would've been nice.sure, but life is messy. embrace it.
>>731066770He never asked for this Also he eats goyslop
>>731065985I was actually surprised how much they tried fitting human revolution as a prequel to the original game. They could have easily just soft rebooted the whole series and not given a fuck, because only ancient PC uncs would have cared.
>>731066767this man has a prosthetic eye by the way
>Adam's augs are more powerful than those of JCCounterpoint: candy bars in Deus Ex are diegetic.JC blowing his legs off with a LAM and then eating an entire box of snickers is *not* a gameplay abstraction.
>>731063321>JC even jokes that those old augs are obsoleteWhen?Who cloned him and why? AFAIK it's mentioned that there isn't any method to age clones, so wtf. If he isn't cloned, who replaced his original augs? The illuminati have everything they need from him, why the whole setup?Both jensen games tend to get ridiculously difficult at the end and this is a big factor for their low sales. Story is all over the place and there's too much combat and combat isn't that much fun.
>>731063794>The pilot is the moleSays who
>>731066410Depending on the rules and start of the fight. V is a powerhouse and imba in an open fight, but Jensen is much more intelligent and has more tactical augs. Not to mention that Jensen isn't connected to the Net, meaning his mind cannot be fried with a bullshit magic attack.
>>731063321Guys how do I play the original Dude sex? I could play human revolution for hours but I just can't for the life of me get past the Statue of liberty mission in the original
>>731066410Fight? These two would hug it out at a bar and be cool enough with each other to double team some slut they picked up there
>>731066410Samdevistan V wins easily since Adam can't even react to the attacks. Netrunner V is 50/50 since it depends entirely on whether V can hack Adam's aug's or not.Other V wins can potentially win but they all depend on V hitting Adam (V with gorilla arms and mantis blades could kill Adam but only if he manages to hit Adam, Cyberpunk has more powerful firearms than Deus Ex universe has.)Realistically V has no reason to fight Adam. If anything Arasaka and Militech would want to kidnap Adam both to study the technology behind his augs and to test all cyberware on him since he could potentially outclass even Smasher with an entirely mech body.At that point would the Illuminati step in and fight Arasaka or Militech, or are those companies controlled by the Illuminati too?
>>731067225Colombo is the original mr Deus Ex
>>731067631Do you get bored somehow or are you actually unable to beat a level that was designed around being played with a ball mouse on an 800x600 monitor?
>>731067631The original Deus Ex has mediocre graphics, mediocre gunplay, mediocre voice acting, mediocre RPG mechanics and mediocre roleplay mechanics. Somehow they all work together really well and produce something special.The special thing about Deus Ex is that the game gives you enough freedom to beat the objectives and the story is really good. To me the game clicked after Liberty Island.
>>731067763Doesn't Adam have a focus enhancement aug that allows him to also slow down time to counter sandevistan
>>731067824I just get bored after I beat the first mission. I wish I knew why I mean I'm very interested in the world but so far the story hasn't given me anything to lach on. Other than the whole conversation with the black leader. The stuff he says haunts me still
>>731067979That's what I love about it too but I tthink prefer human revolutions story and Adam more over the original.
>>731065692>Besides, pure power is not the point of JC's augs. They are unintrusive and perfect for a stealth operative.This, Jensen can't take damage for shit compared to even the boss fights with inferior but combat focused augs.
>>731067980I forgot about that. Both work in a similar way, though I believe sandevistan would still be faster.Also Adam can only activate an aug at a time and is limited by energy, while V can potentially increase his energy sources more than Adam and still has all his passive skills during sandevistan.This is all due to Johnny's engram making V a walking arsenal. Adam is much more powerful than the average cyberpunk merc.
I tried playing the original Deus Ex and got past the first island but my piece of shit laptop started lagging after that. From what i did play i do think i prefer System shock 2. Not saying Deus Ex is bad but SS2 is just an incredibly immersive and comfy experience.
>>731063794What do you need Adam for when you can already do this and keep it functioning with just the regular drug treatment?
>>731065776you can find "him" in several places because thats the base/standard corpse in those assets
>>731068294Lot cheaper and easier to maintain super soldiers if they can all just be given a Jensen CRISPR
>>731068350The Sarrif talk heavily implies it as well. Sarrif straight up says the I.D tags on the augs meant Jensen should have been I.D'd immediately and the new augs mean shenanigans are afoot.
JC's bio-augments ARE weaker then the mechanical grafted augs of guys like Adam or Gunther Hermann. JC was shitting on the old mech augs because the newfangled nanomachines inside his blood didn't turn him in to a monster of mutilated flesh and military chrome.
I got Human Revolution a few years ago and loved it to bits. However, trying Mankind Divided and I just could not give two shits about it. Am I wrong? Do I need to give it another try?
>>731068416even if that turns out to be canon, its unlikely that Jensens real corpse just lies in a standard vault in Prague in a bank
>>731068436Go fuck around in Prague and do side quests. That's where MD shines. I don't remember how soon it opens up, after tutorial mission elsewhere?
>>731068294Would you give up your pp for this?
>>731068519Malright, I'll give it a try after work. Got it for my Xbox. Has anyone played Invisible War?
>>731068436Lighting is all fucked up in MD. You need to piss on your monitor before starting the game.
>>731065787Nope the arab sandstorm theme from DXMD plays in my head constantly I don't think about DX2000 musichttps://youtu.be/A5sPq2xdsVU
>>731068523His pp is detachable (see his crotch port)
>>731068570Invisible war is a medicore console shooter disguised as a deus ex game.
>>731068570IW is worth one try/playthrough, don't expect much
>>731068648What if I loose or forget it somewhere???Scary thought.
>>731068418>JC's bio-augments ARE weaker then the mechanical grafted augsThe only way this is true is if you say that HR/MK's augments as depicted in-game are canon and DX's augments as depicted in-game aren't.JC can regenerate from a 1 HP pile of goo to perfect health in 15 seconds. He can lift and throw concrete crash barriers, turn invisible, and make him more resistant to bullets than if he was wearing the sci-fi smart-kevlar body armor. His flashlight is also canonically his eyeballs themselves glowing bright enough to act as flashlights.JC's busted in DX.
>>731068626mcann knocked it out of the park with both games
>>731068519Disliked the game
>>731068570Invisible War >>>> Mankind Divided
>>731066770He could spam lots of attacks in the cinematic trailer though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejRFQaIsvj0
