>Adam's augs are several decades older those of JC's>JC even jokes that those old augs are obsolete>both games claim that prosthetics are barbaric and limited>yet Adam's augs are more powerful than those of JC and has more abilities
Lets see Adam's GEP gun
Adam's augs are very, very experimental prototypes.About "more abilities", just ascribe that to prequel crap. Big Boss had way more of an arsenal (MGS3) than Solid Snake (MGS1), even though MGS3 was set during the 70s while MGS1 was 2005.
yeah the writing wasn't a strong suit in either of the games.gunther hermann, despite supposedly being an "outdated clank" is far more dangerous than both jc and and simons.
Wasn't adams args built for military use?While JCs was just for police work?
>>731063321Did you miss both parts where Adam was essentially dead and people stuck a bunch of experimental tech in him. First Sarif and then the illuminati. Both more interested in seeing what the tech could do since Adam’s body doesn’t reject augs. Yes that makes him a super special boy, but also explains how he can be a walking metal gear. In the end we will never know, I guesd Illuminati caught up to him, but in my headcanon he is still underground undermining Page. That smirk at the end of Criminal Past tells me he knows the shrink is the mole. Or rather, the shrink is Illuminati. The pilot is the mole.
>>731063321Aren't Adam's Augs unsafe, and experimental?
>>731063321yes, yes, nuDeus Ex lived on esthetics alone, we know that for many years.
>>731063321jcd jumps over adam j using targeting aug and turning his skull to red mist with sniper rifle, while having ballistic and regeneration augs on standby
>>731063367Now that's terror.
>>731063794>That smirk at the end of Criminal Past tells me he knows the shrink is the mole. Or rather, the shrink is Illuminati. The pilot is the mole.now im upset about the lack of a sequel again. that last conversation was so good.
>>731063569Both paul and jc were sent on a mission to assassinate tracer tong, they were intended to be super powered glowniggers.
>>731063321Adam is pretty much a resurrected angel, an engineered super human being. His struggle was mostly about disassociation between body and soul. JC was more about combination of a computer intelligence and a human mind, a post human.
>>731063321>yet Adam's augs are more powerful than those of JC and has more abilitiesAdam doesn't even have a swimming skill
>>731063321
Adam's prosthetics are literally cutting edge tech only possible because they can cut him up as much as possible until he's basically Smasher.Besides, pure power is not the point of JC's augs. They are unintrusive and perfect for a stealth operative.
>>731063321Adam is basically Gunther and Navarre era, but simply happened to be equipped with cutting edge tech.
>>731063794>In the end we will never knowWe do know. You can find Adam Jensen's corpse in Mankind Divided in the Versalife vault.
>>731063321UNATCO HQ theme is now playing and stuck in your brain.
>>731063321Trying to reconcile HR/MD with Deus Ex is a losing game. The original has land phones and alien clones
>>731065692>Adam's prosthetics are literally cutting edge tech only possible because they can cut him up as much as possible until he's basically Smasher.He's still a lot more powerful than agents Gunther and Navarre, despite them being just as augmented as Adam and getting virtually unlimited access to what were the best augmentations during their generation.
What the fuck did you want them to do, have augs that are even more worthless than in the original because muh canon?
>>731063321>yet Adam's augs are more powerful than those of JC and has more abilities
>>731065243>now im upset about the lack of a sequel againAt least they won't pull the "Adam Jensen from MD is actually a clone" plot twist they were setting up before Phantom Pain did pretty much the same reveal
>>731065856Yes, internal consistency would've been nice.Or, you know, don't make a prequel.
SEX WITH DELARA!!
>>731065776i never did find that thing. how does clone adam react?
>>731065776Adam Jensen died in the intro to the first game, the one you play later is also a clone.
>>731065776we don't know for sure if it's a dead original or another copy or what else
>>731063321Did you play MD? He has untapped military grade augs
>>731063321>>731065985>taking gameplay elements this literally
Who wins in a fight?
>>731064161So are JC's and Paul's.Both are essentially cloned from Adam with the purpose of creating super soldiers and to test nanomachine augmentations.
>>731066410V, he is magics compared to Adam, even without memevistan.
>>731063321JC has an aug that destroys all projectiles shot at him. That's pretty busted
>jc denton can eat dozens of candy bars, bags of onions food, and soda cans in less than a minute>is not shown shitting or pissing even ONCE despite the game obviously taking course over a few daysWhat the fuck? Did they ever explain this? Where does all of the food go? How does JC drink 20 cans of soda a day without having to piss even once?
>>731065856Yes, it's a stealth game, the agent doesn't need to break walls with his bare hands, heal gunshot wounds in 5 seconds, fall from skyscrapers without damage, turn invisble or have a magnetic shield that protects him from bullets.Just being stronger than the average human, with more durability, thermal/night vision and being able to detect other living beings and cameras is enough to make an interesting game.
>>731066520His bladder is augmented.
>>731066520100% efficient integrated super recycling, he leaves zero traces. No skin flakes or hair either. Doesn't even fart.
Adam was weaker than JC despite some flashier tech though. Once JC has the speed and jump aug to level 3/4 he is easily the strongest in the setting gameplay/storywise.
>>731066520augmentations consume a lot of energy
>Jesus Christ, Denton>JC Dentonwtffff
>dude adam jensen is like an ultra strong robocop>meanwhile he can't even punch two times in a row without waiting 30 seconds in between or eating a protein barWhy is adam so weak? Even I could punch twice in a row without having to rest, is he really weaker than the average person?
>>731066770His augmentation are based on XBOX360 tech, please understand.
>>731065985Not making a prequel would have been easy if it wasn't for the original games literally ending their entire universe by hypersentient promethean accelerationist turbo-AI
>>731066847>he doesn't knowOne of the plans for the next game was a sequel to invisible war where you're rebelling against JC's singularity utopia.
>>731065985>Yes, internal consistency would've been nice.sure, but life is messy. embrace it.
>>731066770He never asked for this Also he eats goyslop
>>731065985I was actually surprised how much they tried fitting human revolution as a prequel to the original game. They could have easily just soft rebooted the whole series and not given a fuck, because only ancient PC uncs would have cared.
>>731066767this man has a prosthetic eye by the way
>Adam's augs are more powerful than those of JCCounterpoint: candy bars in Deus Ex are diegetic.JC blowing his legs off with a LAM and then eating an entire box of snickers is *not* a gameplay abstraction.
>>731063321>JC even jokes that those old augs are obsoleteWhen?Who cloned him and why? AFAIK it's mentioned that there isn't any method to age clones, so wtf. If he isn't cloned, who replaced his original augs? The illuminati have everything they need from him, why the whole setup?Both jensen games tend to get ridiculously difficult at the end and this is a big factor for their low sales. Story is all over the place and there's too much combat and combat isn't that much fun.
>>731063794>The pilot is the moleSays who
>>731066410Depending on the rules and start of the fight. V is a powerhouse and imba in an open fight, but Jensen is much more intelligent and has more tactical augs. Not to mention that Jensen isn't connected to the Net, meaning his mind cannot be fried with a bullshit magic attack.
>>731063321Guys how do I play the original Dude sex? I could play human revolution for hours but I just can't for the life of me get past the Statue of liberty mission in the original
>>731066410Fight? These two would hug it out at a bar and be cool enough with each other to double team some slut they picked up there
>>731066410Samdevistan V wins easily since Adam can't even react to the attacks. Netrunner V is 50/50 since it depends entirely on whether V can hack Adam's aug's or not.Other V wins can potentially win but they all depend on V hitting Adam (V with gorilla arms and mantis blades could kill Adam but only if he manages to hit Adam, Cyberpunk has more powerful firearms than Deus Ex universe has.)Realistically V has no reason to fight Adam. If anything Arasaka and Militech would want to kidnap Adam both to study the technology behind his augs and to test all cyberware on him since he could potentially outclass even Smasher with an entirely mech body.At that point would the Illuminati step in and fight Arasaka or Militech, or are those companies controlled by the Illuminati too?
>>731067225Colombo is the original mr Deus Ex
>>731067631Do you get bored somehow or are you actually unable to beat a level that was designed around being played with a ball mouse on an 800x600 monitor?
>>731067631The original Deus Ex has mediocre graphics, mediocre gunplay, mediocre voice acting, mediocre RPG mechanics and mediocre roleplay mechanics. Somehow they all work together really well and produce something special.The special thing about Deus Ex is that the game gives you enough freedom to beat the objectives and the story is really good. To me the game clicked after Liberty Island.
>>731067763Doesn't Adam have a focus enhancement aug that allows him to also slow down time to counter sandevistan
>>731067824I just get bored after I beat the first mission. I wish I knew why I mean I'm very interested in the world but so far the story hasn't given me anything to lach on. Other than the whole conversation with the black leader. The stuff he says haunts me still
>>731067979That's what I love about it too but I tthink prefer human revolutions story and Adam more over the original.
>>731065692>Besides, pure power is not the point of JC's augs. They are unintrusive and perfect for a stealth operative.This, Jensen can't take damage for shit compared to even the boss fights with inferior but combat focused augs.
>>731067980I forgot about that. Both work in a similar way, though I believe sandevistan would still be faster.Also Adam can only activate an aug at a time and is limited by energy, while V can potentially increase his energy sources more than Adam and still has all his passive skills during sandevistan.This is all due to Johnny's engram making V a walking arsenal. Adam is much more powerful than the average cyberpunk merc.
I tried playing the original Deus Ex and got past the first island but my piece of shit laptop started lagging after that. From what i did play i do think i prefer System shock 2. Not saying Deus Ex is bad but SS2 is just an incredibly immersive and comfy experience.
>>731063794What do you need Adam for when you can already do this and keep it functioning with just the regular drug treatment?
>>731065776you can find "him" in several places because thats the base/standard corpse in those assets
>>731068294Lot cheaper and easier to maintain super soldiers if they can all just be given a Jensen CRISPR
>>731068350The Sarrif talk heavily implies it as well. Sarrif straight up says the I.D tags on the augs meant Jensen should have been I.D'd immediately and the new augs mean shenanigans are afoot.
JC's bio-augments ARE weaker then the mechanical grafted augs of guys like Adam or Gunther Hermann. JC was shitting on the old mech augs because the newfangled nanomachines inside his blood didn't turn him in to a monster of mutilated flesh and military chrome.
I got Human Revolution a few years ago and loved it to bits. However, trying Mankind Divided and I just could not give two shits about it. Am I wrong? Do I need to give it another try?
>>731068416even if that turns out to be canon, its unlikely that Jensens real corpse just lies in a standard vault in Prague in a bank
>>731068436Go fuck around in Prague and do side quests. That's where MD shines. I don't remember how soon it opens up, after tutorial mission elsewhere?
>>731068294Would you give up your pp for this?
>>731068519Malright, I'll give it a try after work. Got it for my Xbox. Has anyone played Invisible War?
>>731068436Lighting is all fucked up in MD. You need to piss on your monitor before starting the game.
>>731065787Nope the arab sandstorm theme from DXMD plays in my head constantly I don't think about DX2000 musichttps://youtu.be/A5sPq2xdsVU
>>731068523His pp is detachable (see his crotch port)
>>731068570Invisible war is a medicore console shooter disguised as a deus ex game.
>>731068570IW is worth one try/playthrough, don't expect much
>>731068648What if I loose or forget it somewhere???Scary thought.
>>731068418>JC's bio-augments ARE weaker then the mechanical grafted augsThe only way this is true is if you say that HR/MK's augments as depicted in-game are canon and DX's augments as depicted in-game aren't.JC can regenerate from a 1 HP pile of goo to perfect health in 15 seconds. He can lift and throw concrete crash barriers, turn invisible, and make him more resistant to bullets than if he was wearing the sci-fi smart-kevlar body armor. His flashlight is also canonically his eyeballs themselves glowing bright enough to act as flashlights.JC's busted in DX.
>>731068626mcann knocked it out of the park with both games
>>731068519Disliked the game
>>731068570Invisible War >>>> Mankind Divided
>>731066770He could spam lots of attacks in the cinematic trailer though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejRFQaIsvj0
>>731068874Everybody's different. I liked it so much that I started it again and did a foxhound run even though i was running it off a HDD and it took minutes to load each area. I got pulled into a autistic fixation with both the Adam Jensen games that lasted a year or two. It's kinda embarrassing look back on it now.
>>731068768>JC can regenerate from a 1 HP pile of goo to perfect health in 15 seconds. He can lift and throw concrete crash barriers, turn invisible, and make him more resistant to bullets than if he was wearing the sci-fi smart-kevlar body armorAdam can do all of that and more.
>>731068768Doesn't JC run much faster than Adam too? Plus his augs are much lower profile than Adam.
>the virgin adam can only run for several seconds before running out of breath and needing to stop>the chad jc is constantly running by default even without his augs
>>731067432I guesd they stuck it in the artbook when they knew a third game was never happening.
>>731069225Im shamed to say I skipped MD until last year. Two playthroughs. Main story is surprisingly short, the meat is definitely Prague and just stumbling over sidequests. The Bombmaker looked like a Sister of Battle. Fuck they got me got choosing between saving someone and a chance to poke in Versalife vault.
>>731067432This is evident in the game IIRC like this>GARM alarm goes off only if you call Miller/Chikane or whoever that was that's not Alex>you can hack his PC that has incriminating emailsMotivation being something like a sibling needed high tier care and thus he works for who's willing to pay I think
>>731067631go with GMDE, gameplay purists be damned it fixes the whole issues with modern OS and adds a few gameplay elements that spice up the og in great ways
Human Revolution aged remarkably wellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67IuaDiC0LI
>>731068436>I just could not give two shits about iilike the other anon said, do some side questsmain story is lackluster and way too short
Has anyone ITT played Mankind DIvided on an OLED with HDR? I'm tempted to buy one just to see how it looks.
>>731071026>>GARM alarm goes off only if you call Miller/Chikane or whoever that was that's not AlexI did that on my third playthrough, I thought that was a bug.
>>731063367>shoots super-heated explosive blades out of hands>it kills everyone in its AoE and doesnt make a soundThat's Adam's GEP gun.
>>731063512>Adam's augs are very, very experimental prototypesExplains why Tesla Fist is not for stealth.
>>731063569Adam's augs are for law enforcement and military. JC's are for glowie/spookie.
>>731063321It's just one of those things where the "prequel" games had the benefit of coming out 20 years after the original game, so they were able to do more with them than they could with the original game. JC's augs are still, canonically, supposed to be far more powerful and advanced than Adam's. You just don't see that represented well in the games because DX1 came out in 2000 and Human Revolution had the benefit of coming out much later.
>>731072454>they just didn't have the technology to make the player character more powerful???
>>731071893>>731072098Both games are great. Shame that we will most likely not see the conclusion to MD and entry to DX1.
>>731072138Yeah that's a common thought and Chikane's business is easily missed. First time playing at launch I reloaded at least once and wrote it off as a bug that didn't get patched fast enough
>>731071893Ah yes, the old PISS filter.
>>731072591It's not just about the technology, though that's part of it. Immersive sims were still relatively new, so the unfamiliarity of developing the a game in that genre and balancing how strong you could make a player character in a game that's supposed to be about locking you out of certain choices based on your decisions may have been factor. Budget could have been a factor. All of the other chaos that was going on around that time with John Romero and Ion Storm might have been a factor. There are a lot of things, anon.
>>731072759>director's cut removes the filter>everyone suddenly likes it
>>731072759>director's cut removed the piss filter and forces you to play the 3 hour DLC where you lose all your augs and weapons in the middle of the gamei fucking hate square enix
>>731068436i couldn't even get past the hamfisted opening
>>731071893need more hengsha
>>731063321adam's augs were a result of sarif putting all the shit he could in him with no regard to safety or controllability of adam JC and paul were purposefully built experiments, limited in scope as to 1) be controllable 2) be safe for page when the time comes to upgrade him in JC/paul's image
>>731072949Not to mention it's based on an earlier build than the first actual release. More bugs!
>>731065985>internal consistencyThe games weren't made by the same team.Even then if you really want to feel undefeated you can use the cheat codes (which I consider part of JC's moveset).
>>731072914people bitching about muh piss filter were unironic brainletspublishers forcing devs to muddle the artistic vision because of such people is always sad
the piss filter was ridiculous and removing it was wrong
>>731072914>>731072949Don't forget you cant buy the original release anymore.
>>731066410Jensen has better alcohol tolerance so he wins.
>>731073148>>731072949>>731072759I don't get the hate for Director's Cut. Played both back in the day and the DC didn't stand out to me as the inferior version.For piss filter enjoyers, there's a mod that completely restores it.
>>731072829>using the term immersive sim without ironyThe more blunt answer is that Human Revolution was to at least some extent trying to be the dumb action shooter fans were scared it was going to be. Sure it didn't go full on in that direction and it it a decent job remembering it was supposed to be a complex rpg. But it still felt the need to go "YOU ARE AWESOME CYBORG" in the marketing to get the dudebros to play the game where you can do a superpunch through a wall and snap some guard's neck.It's the reason the game ended up with boss fights that became a massive point of criticism. Even though when you stop to think about it bosses don't make sense in-universe. If there was some aug that turned you into a massive bullet sponge, then when in either game you're state of the art aug, you would have been given it.
>>731073376I still hate that the DLC is baked in. It ends up feeling like filler instead of being a fun side mission.
>>731073376No outright hate but bafflement. I'd argue the filter should be a toggle, using old builds is stupid and the DLC fucking kills pacing.
>>731073068shame we have zero concept art of cut content like the Montreal hub they had planned
>>731073376>the DC didn't stand out to me as the inferior versionit literally stutters like fucking crazy because of the godawful code and it being a shitty wii u version
>>731073302oh no I cant consoom and deposit moneyz into the pockets of faggotsso anyway
>>731073435Good point. I agree with you, anon. I think the more action oriented focus of HR and the dumbing down of RPG mechanics also led to Adam feeling more "powerful" than JC
To oldfag anons ITT; how was the Human Revolution "leak"/preview build initially received?
>>731073782looked gay
>>731072914>>everyone suddenly likes itno one liked the piss filter, not even the developers
>>731073782Didn't it turn all discourse to positive overnight
>>731073923no
>>731073782I wasn't in the threads at the time but from what I gather it was a massive turning point in the hype. Everyone was preparing for it to be invisible war or worse. People were legitimately surprised at how much it was drawing from the original game, at least with the inventory/quick toolbar. Really I think HR benefitted from some really low expectations in that people were taking aback by it trying to be like the original game at all.
But what do they eat?
>>731073917>yellow paint is so unwanted in vidya that developers were taking the piss out of it (literally) before it even was a thing to begin with
>>731074078Onions Food and Candy Bars
>>731074015>people were taking aback by it trying to be like the original game at all.Yeah and I remember even totalbiscuit tearing into it for having a cover system and simplistic dialogue trees. There really aren't many example of reboots being that close to the original concept AND adding something contemporary and fresh without shitting on the legacy of their predecessors.
>>731073782Extremely well, people originally thought the game was going to be a disaster until the leak.
>>731074124And HR didnt just have the piss filter it also had yellow highlighting on all interactable objects
>>731073554>it literally stutters like fucking crazy because of the godawful code and it being a shitty wii u versionDidn't happen to me 10 years ago when I played it and doesn't happen now. I'm gonna need to see some proof if you want me to believe you.
>>731073782Damn well. Everyone was surprised it was good. I played it myself and loved every single bit of it, to the point where i actually pre-ordered it. Did not regret even one bit.
>>731073782>mfw people suddenly had hope for Thief 4
>>731074409It's a well known fact. Director's Cut sucks ass. Same with Sleeping Dog's Definitive Edition that Square put out around the same time. Always worse than the original. Fuck remasters, fuck remakes, fuck definitive editions, fuck director's cuts, fuck any dlc/updates. Play the original games, as originally intended.
>>731074409>works on my machine so the problem doesn't exist!Okay, so you're low IQ.
>>731074478>Stutters on my machine so the problem must exist for everyone
>>731074595Yes, it's an unfixable issue due to the Wii U code being compiled for PowerPC and having to run through a translation layer to work on x86 PCs with game breaking results.
>>731074478>Okay, so you're low IQ.Anon I literally played both versions a couple years apart, and the issues of the DC are at least a little overblown.>>731074473>Director's Cut sucks assIt is inferior in some aspects but not nearly as bad as sleeping dogs. Also RIP True Crime. NYC was full of soul despite the PC port being garbage
>Any an all game discussion regarding the Cyberpunk genre defaults to pic related>deus ex remains forgotten despite its story and themes being more relevant than everGrim.
>>731074595Literally open the Steam discussion forums or the reviews to see many other people experiencing this shit you fucking 70 IQ moron.
>>731074868That's because Deus Ex's story was written ironically, the team just took every conspiracy theory they could think of and shoved it into the game to lampoon real-life schizos. The fact that people think Deus Ex "predicted" anything when it's all making fun of real-life retards who think there's an actual Illuminati makes me wish there WERE an actual Illuminati to control these 9 billion idiots ruining everything.
>>731075002>It affects some people>This means literally everybody has this problem
>>731074124It was a thing for so long I don't know why people only started noticing it with the RE4 remake.
>>731066520He can also smoke enough cigarettes to kill a child with second hand smoke. JC is a beast.
>>731066520Broken down at the atomic level to obtain pure energy.
>>731063321None of the Deus Ex devs or writers worked on Nu Ex. Just mentally treat them as separate canons.>>731067631Stick around until at least Hell's Kitchen, the third area. If the game still doesn't click, it might never.>>731068436Explore and do sidequests. It's unironically a better game than Human Revolution if you meet it halfway.
>>731063321HR and MD aren't canon to the first game.
>>731075054trump jr is openly flashing masonic signs at the inaguration and you're still going "duhhh it's not real" lmao
>>731075054>make game with premise "what if all those whacked out conspiracy theories were true?">25 years later it turns out all conspiracy theories are true.>Look like a genius who predicted the future.
>>731075054>shoved it into the game to lampoon real-life schizosNot really. They devs at least some level of self-awareness since all the "theories" that the crazy radio guy rambles on about end up being true.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUK8EMX25VI>>731077203yeah turns out they weren't entirely rwong
>>731076819>>731076268>it's not canon because some random faggot online says so
>>731075054I wish they had included the planned Denver Airport level in Deus Ex
>>731077737It's not canon because it doesn't make sense for both to be in the same canon. No amount of cope will change that.
>>731077820>it doesn't make sense for both to be in the same canonwhy not? Are there too many contradictions for it to be canon? Why can't they be loosely based on one another with some characters having cameos instead of playing central roles?
>>731077820It does. You're just retarded.
>>731072949What's wrong anon?You don't like waiting for 5 minutes to let the unskippable bioscan scans you?
>>731077975>prequel>art style is completely different to the point it might as well be a different timeline>megacity that used to be in china years ago somehow disappearedThe world itself is drastically different. I wouldn't count inserting some familiar names here and there as a connection.>>731078254It doesn't, troon. It's so obvious you fags never pay attention to the shit you play. Just consoom.
>>731078327 (me)>>megacity that used to be in china years ago somehow disappeared>inb4 they're different citiesYeah, still doesn't make sense.
>>731075265I just included it for RE4make because it's the one game I bothered playing that had it. By all means let us know if it dates back to before HR.
>>731078327>It's so obvious you fags never pay attention to the shit you play.You're the retard who doesn't understand the games. Sounds like you're the one who isn't paying attention
AI waifus on a giant holograms/screens should be mandatory for cyberpunk games.
>>731078752Amazing comeback.
>>731066561>it's a stealth gameIt's not.
>>731068294One of the things Human Revolution did, was to look at how RL organ transplants work, and base a lot of the work on that idea.That means you are missing a few pills away from everything start to deattach, on top of getting more and more potentially allergic as a result of the suppression drug interacting with the parts still being there.Immune suppressants are fun.You take them, got a pain in your throat, and it physically takes 2 days of being off before you get a fever and it just lets go.
>>731064161The sarif ones where safe, the illuminati ones were not.
>>731078891>it's not canon even though the original game director for deus ex that came up with the world signed off on the project and personally gave it his approval
>>731067631its rough. nature of the unreal engine 1 engine its put in. either nostalgia keeps you going with some modern fanboy tweaks like GMDX or just dump it. I guess you can go with ghosting stealth gameplay to keep the jank at a minimum and allow to be taken in by immersion into the world>played both of them back in their hay day. Still prefer DXHR out of all of them
>>731066410Not that they would ever fight, but V is a monster because of the cheat chip in his brain.
>>731066767confirmed by the writer as canon, btw
>>731063519>gunther hermann, despite supposedly being an "outdated clank" is far more dangerous than both jc and and simons.uh... you literally beat him in a duel. how is he more dangerous than JC?
>>731068294I still find it funny that the devs cut out the part of the game where adam found out this dude who blew his brains out while your girlfriend was watching, was also blowing your girlfriends back out while she was making a genocide weapon for the illuminati.
>>731067980>time slow counters another time slow
>>731079196That doesn't explain away the inconsistencies. A lot of "blessed by the original author" projects end up like shit, everybody knows that.
>>731078832They're mandatory for real life too.
>>731068436No MD is just meandering and boring and most of the gameplay systems are compromised compared to HR. Being able to stack dozens of healing and aug items on top of each other is insanely retarded and just breaks everything (if there was actually anything worth breaking). Another problem is they give you too many aug upgrades and most of the newer ones are just shit like "that old HR gun you probably never used (don't worry we didn't bother adding any new weapons to compensate)"
>>731066770you can eat a bunch of chocolate bars in a row and then go punch a bunch of dudes X2. your adam was weak because you didn't upgrade him. congrats, you minmaxed taking advantage of the free recharge. your reward: boring gameplay.
>>731079457I'll take "blessed by the original author" over " the sperg rantings of some random autistic online faggot"
>>731074868But in the cyberpunk universe the glowfags&corpo's plans were revealed to the world and it fucked over the world hard where corps rule nations and it's not a secret. And it's the AI's who work from the shadows. In deus ex the illuminati works from the shadows and the people of the world still believe democracy works.
I like watching the news.
>>731079909i wish real aislop was this cool and sexy
>>731073782I wasn't on 4chan then, but I recall playing it, and it basically sold me on RPGs. Earlier in middle school I had a classmate who pestered me to play KOTOR II and OG Deus Ex, and I really got filtered by them. Took me a long time to revisit and appreciate them.
>>731063321JC is a relatively normal augmented human. Adam is an experimental tinker toy who got jammed with every bit of tech his boss had on hand.
>>731063519>far more dangerous than both jcAre you sure you're talking about the guy who gets captured in the first level and you have to save, then you kill?
>>731080565>the guy who gets captured in the first levelTo be fair that's because he's retarded (read:German), not because he's weak.I love reading his e-mails.
>>731079389None of his actual defenses are weaker than Simons, who is supposedly augmented exactly like JC. He even has the same damage shield as Simons.If we don't count the killswitch, then JC canonically would barely beat him.>>731080565You can give him a single combat knife and he'll still wipe out the entire island on his own including all the sentry bots.
>>731079235Recently replayed all four of the big ones, and I also found HR more enjoyable to replay. DX has fantastic atmosphere and GMDX really does help revitalize it, but there's something about HR that hits just right.Up until Panchea, of course. Anecdotally, most of the people I know who don't like DX liked HR's final map just because it was a zombie level and they felt free to blow everyone's heads off.
>>731079660Good goy.
>>731063321>adam has augments that are experimental and dangerous but because he's a special test tube babby he can handle them>JC has safe mods and augs that have been tested for 20 years
>>731080027Me too
>>731066084He doesn't. You can only see it by using a very specific camera angle, but it's definitely Jensen in there. They've cloned the shit out of him but he has no idea.
i really fell in love with the rihanna lookalike in hr. she was so cool. pity they didnt do more with her.
Deus ex HR cut content>bigger detroit hub>montreal hub>upper hengsha hub instead of one mission>panchea was supposed to be a massive base you needed to sneak&fight your way trough a shitload of soldiers, the hardest level of the game, but because of time constraints they had to cut it all and just copypaste aug zombies all over. Deus ex MD>litteraly cut the game in two and get forced to make a shit sidegame that eats up resources&timeAll because the retards at square enix.
>>731063321It's called anachronism, OP.Power creep is always a thing and it's almost always a problem when a series goes back and makes a prequel somewhere down the line.The writer(s) always want to make something bigger and cooler than before, but the whole prequel angle doesn't allow for it so they fudge the lines.
>>731068108just embrace being a superpowered detective. if you like the story, that's the biggest part of the game
Usecase for implanted retractable sunglasses?
>>731082562retard writers didn't think of that unfortunately
>>731082562humans are social creatures, and aesthetics help us socialize. socializing leads to mating.
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>>731082562reinforced protection for the eyes
>>731082562Isn't it supposed to be the UI?
>>731079557>needs to eat a bunch of chocolate bars just to punch peopleI can do that without eating a bunch of chocolate bars.
>>731082562If you have a body full of mechanical augmentations, having a real-time heads up display to tell you about the condition of those augs is probably helpful. It's also what allows Jensen to see through walls, see cameras, and all of his other vision mods.
>>731069439nigga please. adam can't even throw a punch without running out of a breath.
I never realized there were so many people who genuinely thought that Adam was canonically stronger than JC. I'm pretty sure it's well settled that JC and the nanoaugs are far superior and that JC only feels weaker because he's in an older game. Is this what people mean when they talk about media illiteracy?
>>731081758neat
>>731083124UI and all other sight related functions are directly tied to the eye prosthesis. The sunglasses are just fancy sunglasses.
>>731084107How could Adam be weaker? His whole body is a war machine.
>>731084976>How could Adam be weaker? His whole body is a war machine.So is JC's. The whole idea behind nanoaugmentation is that it's the next step in human augmentation where you get all of the benefits, plus more, of mech augs, without the horrific disfigurement of strapping steel to your body. That's the whole point. Adam has the top of the line, cutting edge, experimental tech of his day, but it's 25 years old by the time of DX1. It's like comparing propeller planes to fighter jets.
>>731071973I love seeing the screenshot I took in DE threads. Thx anon.
>>731084107>Adam has full health regeneration as a built in feature. Something JC only gets if he find a specific aug for it and it then requires use of his finite bio-energy to make use of.In way is it well settled that nanoaugs are superior? Are you just saying that because it's a plot point that it's meant to be? Or because of something entirely cosmetic like mechs looking ugly (even though Adam's shit looks pretty flash). You talk of media literacy but overlook the concept of "show don't tell".
JC wishes he was half the basketball player adam is.
>>731085552>>Adam has full health regeneration as a built in feature. Something JC only gets if he find a specific aug for it and it then requires use of his finite bio-energy to make use of.>You talk of media literacy but overlook the concept of "show don't tell".I talk of media literacy because I examine the actual canon of the IP and don't try to argue irrelevant gameplay mechanics like what you brought up.
>>731063512>Adam's augs are very, very experimental prototypes.Only the ones installed in him by Orlov in Mankind Divided. The closest thing to a prototype in Adam in Human Revolution is the Typhoon, which was prototyping in the opening segment but was being mass produced six months later (literally the first mission at Milwaukee Junction is all about Typhoon going into production).
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>>731085749The gameplay is precisely why people say Adam seems stronger. You're just admitting you didn't understand why people were saying that to begin with.>I examine the actual canon of the IPHow the augs work are part of the canon. Hell how the augs work are pretty much the most important criteria for if they are actually superior or not. Again, show don't tell.
>>731086415>Again, show don't tell.You're on a new level of media illiteracy because you've misused this quote twice now. "Show, don't tell" is advice for crafting narratives where it is BETTER to show, rather than to tell. It's advice given to people to craft better stories. It's not a metric for gauging what is "more canon" between what is shown and what is told. Nanoaugs are established in the lore as being the next step in human augmentation, and it's such massive leap forward that mech augs are outright deemed to be obsolete. That's the law of the DX world. You trying to argue gameplay mechanics like player upgrade points over the actual lore is what makes you a media illiterate retard.
