I hope, nupokemon is just soulless corporate shit

>>731065701
My dad loves this series.

>Anon's prayers were absorbed by the darkness

>>731065701
I just don't see it happening. Maybe in like the far, far future, but not anytime soon. It makes too much money from merch and people go retarded over the cards.

>>731065701
>>731065765
>>731065803
>>731065812
>>731065848
Go back to >>>/vp/

>>731065701
Convincing pokemon fans to stop eating shit is no different than telling indians to stop worshipping cow dungs.

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i went to a pokemon center in taiwan and 2/3 of the customers were adults

>>731065868
>Go to the board full of Pokemon fans to say you hope their garbage franchise dies in oblivion

>>731065765
And they don't even try to hide it. The only one who had a vision for the games, Tajiri, fucked off, so any decision made isn't for the sake of a character arc, message, or plot, but because it would be the most popular and least controversial

>>731065927
This is what gives me hope. Once these nostalgic adults lose interest (or die), Pokémon will slowly die too

>>731066097
/vp/ is extremely critical of the franchise.

>>731066282
wtf are you talking about, S/V had probably the strongest character writing and core story in the series and recent games have been dealing with heavier themes like lacking talent for your goals in life

pokemon is already going downhill like star wars did, it's only propped up by disney adults which have way too much money and not enough taste to stop
kids nowadays genuinely don't give a fuck about th series anymore beyond cute plushies or tcg to get scammed with for a 100 dollas
it won't happen this soon but it's inevitable. unless gen 10 actually fucking delivers, but i wouldn't bet on that at all

>>731066396
none of that matters when your games have the quality of a falcom game and have been dumbed down beyond enjoyability

>>731065701
It's been shit for longer than it was good and it's bigger than ever by every metric.

I don't think it'll ever die. It's the Simpsons of gaming.

>>731066396
>switch Pokemon
>Good
It literally looks worse than colosseum and that came out 20 years ago. This has to be bait

>>731066395
Yeah but you also have people shitposting pretending gen 6 was good

you lost and got raped and got gaped

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>>731065701
>hey guys people really liked Pokemon Legends Arceus, so how about we follow it up with another game set in the distant past but in the other fan favorite region?
>nah scrap that and make it another modern day setting but just one samey city this time from the worst region
They want to keep the series shit on purpose.

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I want a VR TCG. No gacha, but I might respect a Poh keh poe kay done like TCG Pocket.

>>731066642
It makes sense. If you played gen 6 as a kid you're around 18-19 right now.

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>>731066663
gen 6 doubles were peak doubles
gen 5 sucked ass

>>731066396
Basic, sanitized shi developed in the most mediocre way possible. Seriously, Game Freak are allergic to putting any effort into their Pokémon games because they don't need to, they will earn money anyway.

Are kids even getting into it these days?

>>731066748
Meant for
>>731066663

>>731066515
I suppose it will still be popular in Gen 11, although interest will be declining. People will definitely get tired of it after that, right?

>>731066784
Yeah Pokemon is currently the biggest it’s been since Gen 1 and growing basically

I'm fucking sick of playing romhacks for gen 3 and gen 4 games and having to put up with every shitmon from 9 generations being crammed into it.

Bro I don't want to see alolan forms. I don't want to see glup shitto(mon) from scarlet and violet. If I wanted to play with that shit I'd be using a 3ds emulator. Just stick to the classic pokedexes holy shit

>>731066930
meds

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I'm 98% sure Renamon is the only reason why pokemon company never made a furry evolution of Pikachu like every modern Pokemon starter.

>>731066642
>Anon talks about story and characters
>"Muh graphics"
Shut up you retarded child.

>>731065701
You'll be dead by age when that happen.

>>731067018
No, he's right. These catch em all hacks have insanely bloated encounter tables nowadays, I would rather have a sensible regional dex over having to run through grass 20 times to get the thing you want

>>731066784
Some kids are fans, but not to the levels of Pokemania, not even close. The other day I went to a store and there was a kid asking if they had a Pokémon backpack; that's something, I guess. But I doubt the gen Alpha will have a very large segment of adults nostalgic for Pokémon like the millennials. Aldo, keep in mind that the nuanime is not shaping the childhoods of hundreds of children.

>>731065701
But I will miss all the fuckable hebes and hags and pokemon

>>731066780
just as the people who say gen 3 singles is the peak of comeptitive pokemon are retarded because no format without the phys/spec split could ever be the best (and singles is retarded fanfic anyway), dynamic speed makes doubles so much more playable that every format without it is also out of contention

i think by default its gen 9, because only gen 8 and 9 have dynamic speed and tera > dmax

>>731067171
Gen alpha isn't going to have any shared childhood experiences. Our whole fucking society is siloed by the internet now. There's no mainstream songs or movies that everybody is seeing.

>>731065701
>>731065874
the gameplay is fun and i enjoyed every new game since it improved on the gameplay despite the ugly graphics, but you dont care and will continue shitposting about it anyway. it's not happening.

>i just want the games to be better
you never owned a nintendo console. all of this is in bad faith. actual pokemon fans love the gameplay and will stick around for the gameplay.

>>731067325
>every new game since it improved on the gameplay
I thought the gameplay in SV was dogshit. What do you think was improved exactly?

>>731067140
dilate

>>731067179
Today, the franchise survives thanks to Pokégirls and unfunny memes like the Mega Starmie one. God, how I hate chinks and their uncritical, consumerist society

>>731066515
>beyond cute plushies or tcg
Merch and cards are what keeps the franchise afloat, the games aren't even 10% of the income.

>>731067227
I liked Gen 8 ranked doubles a lot because the battle presentation was better and also the power level in Gen 9 was so damn high from day 1, almost every pseudo and Dondozo ridiculousness

>>731067452
i quite liked gen 8 too, i just prefer tera as a gimmick. the power creep in gen 9 and the overcentralisation it led to have been so obnoxious. theyve genuinely been making strides in how they handle pokemon battling as a competitive endeavour; they just need to dial the top echelons of power back a bit so we dont end up with a pool of 5 mons that youre throwing if you dont run

>>731067375
>added mints and hyper training
meaning it's easier to make competitive pokemon without annoying stuff from the old games.
>open world
monster catching games are amazing on open world areas. the same reason why SMTV and Legends Arceus were very popular. people want to explore the world and catch monsters without unnescessary dialogue in the way.
>better writing
these characters are ugly, but somehow they made them very endearing because the writing in S/V was actually pretty good. it's been forever since we had actual writing in a pokemon game.

they fucked up the game with the shitty graphics and framerate, but the games have been one of the best i've ever played. i've loved every new game since Legends Arceus.

>>731067389
>no bro I NEED galarian stunfisk on my team you don't get it
>who cares if I need to open a spreadsheet to get any realistic idea of which specific patch of grass you find it in

>>731067638
>open world
Its not a true open world. Its gated.

>better writing
This has to be bait.
Please post an example of good writing in this game, because I hated every single character and plot point iirc.

>>731067389
Ironic as only trannies give a shit about post gen 5 pokemon

>>731067770
HAVE SEX
GAIN HEIGHT
TAKE A SHOWER
HIT THE WEIGHTS
GET A CLUE

>>731067806
classic kantroon cope

>>731065701
Gen 10 is going to be good. They're finally giving the franchise the glow up it desperately needed. Pokemon of the Wild coming up.

>>731067795
>erm- it's not actually open world though
bad faith argument

>example of good writing
area zero.
Mabostiff's story
Kieran's story
Pecharunt's story

the game makes you care a lot for these characters.

>>731068016
>bad faith argument
Since when is being correct "bad faith"?
Sounds like cope to me.

>asked to provide an example
>provides literally zero quotes
:/

Guess we now know who's really arguing in "bad faith" lol

>>731067375
>>731067795
>>731068091
It's blatantly obvious this faggot did not play the game.

>>731068091
bad faith because it is open world. i dont know why you believe otherwise

>provides literally zero quotes
nigger, do you think one liners is "good writing"? are you fucking braindead. if you played the game, you'd know what im referencing. you just exposed yourself.

>>731068154
You're confusing someone else's posts for my own.
I beat the game when it launched, used a Poison only team. I didnt play any DLC.

>>731068176
>bad faith because it is open world
>has gates that block your progress (unless you go where they want you to go right now).
Its not an open world game.

>still no examples of good writing
Why are you crying? Just post an example.

>>731068263
>gates that block your progress
no there fucking aren't. i played the game, i know you can go to the fucking ice area once you make your own character.

>why are you crying? just post an example.
i did. play the game.

alright. you've obviously never played a pokemon game before in your life. anyways. pokemon will continue selling and you will continue crying about in on 4chan. what a life, amirite?

>>731068342
>no there fucking aren't
You can't go and get all the bike pokemon upgrades, the game makes you do thebother plot points (badges, team star raids) first.
It's not a true open world.

>still no examples
Then you lose.
:3

>>731068342
He means a quote from the game, you can find those easily on bulbapedia

>>731067927
Tell another joke, anon, I'm still laughing at the last one

Currently playing Platinum for the first time
Good game

>>731068420
Nta
What are you talking about you can beeline the titan Pokemon if you want the game doesn’t stop you, if there’s plot gating on them I don’t remember it.

>>731068420
>it's not open world because i still need to play the game to unlock shit
what? yea, no shit you have to play the game to unlock shit. it's a video game. it's not gated, you can go anywhere from the beginning. that's what open world is.

>Then you lose.
>:3
passive aggressive tranny coded post. lmao

>>731068503
It literally stops you.
I tried it when the game launched. I wanted to get all the bike upgrades first so I could go everywhere as fast as possible, but the game won't allow you to get them all without being forced into gym battles and star raids first.

>>731068556
>it's not gated, you can go anywhere from the beginning. that's what open world is.
Area Zero proves you wrong.

>he doent know what passive aggression is
Lol

>>731068581
It stops you how? You need to explain what the game actually does because I don’t remember anything like that.

>>731068581
no it doesn't. you're talking out of your ass. the only thing stopping you is the pokemon not listening to you once you reach a certain level. that has always been a mechanic in all pokemon games. you need to get gym badges. yet, this point does not matter. you want to go there and over THERE? you CAN. that IS what open world IS.

>>731068643

>i cant access area zero from the beginning
shitpost argument. kill yourself. im done talking to you. go play the latest lgbt game cvckmann will shit out for you. i know you love those.

>>731066282
>least controversial
So why do they keep shoveling out the worst designs known to man like mega gatr?

Some parts of the franchise have gone downhill but Pokemon can stil be enjoyed if you know where to go... e621

>>731068746
I have no idea what you guys are arguing about but I just wanna point out pokemon not listening to you only applies to traded mons
Also it's a 50% chance to do nothing IIRC, I remember playing Red with a traded lvl 100 Mewtwo just for memes

>>731066719
the next legends game is the past... but its fucking galar

>>731068809
yea, that's what i mean. the ONLY thing stopping you from bee lining the titans quest is that. but other than that, it is open world. >>731068746

>>731068746
>it's not gated, you can go anywhere from the beginning. that's what open world is.
By your own definition, its not an open world.
Stop crying.

>>731068809
In Legends Arceus and Scarlet/Violet obedience is changed a bit, it also applies to Pokemon you catch but only if it was caught above the obedience level. So if your level limit is 30 and you catch a Pokemon at level 5 and raise it to level 35 it will still listen, but if you caught a wild level 35 Pokemon it won’t listen

>>731066914
Gen V zoomers don't want to admit it but gen alpha loves kantomons best

>>731066784
Pokemon is about as big now as it was during Pokemania (see Go + Scarlet and Violet sales), but the notable difference is that Pokemania was almost exclusively the primary child audience, while the current audience is both children and adult fans.

So it's technically as big as it ever has been, but not in the monolithic sense. It IS played by millions of kids, but not as many millions as back in the day, and the other millions are the adults.

>>731068873
then by your logic, there are no open world games. let's see...
>GTAV
not open world. after all, you can't access North Yankton unless you accept one of the missions to go there.
>skyrim
not open world since you still have loading screens to enter one of the cities. it's all gated
>elden ring
nope. it's all gated.


welp. it is what it is.

>>731068973
>played
western kids only want pokemon cards because they saw youtubers gambling on packs for resale and grading

>>731069123
There are open world games, but those 3 are not. Correct.
>"by your logic..."
Im literally using your definition. This isn't "my" logic. You said
>"it's not gated, you can go anywhere from the beginning. that's what open world is."

Uh oh the game is good and I got caught lying about Titan Pokemon being plot gated time to devolve the thread into endless pedantic bullshit
I mean what’s a RPG anyway?

>>731069267
>Titan Pokemon being plot gated
They literally are tho.

>>731069267
Factual post.
>>731069304
This was debunked.

>>731069205
your point is
>not open world cuz i cant acces area zero
that's literally the point you made. which by your logic all the games that i've mentioned aren't open world as well.

>>731069326
Where?

>>731069332
My point is
>not open world, by your own definition

Why does this upset you so much?

>>731069382
ok. then pokemon violet is open world?

>>731065701
Even if it dies, some other corporation will buy the IP and sell it.

>>731069440
No, its not.
By your own admission.

Here is where you admitted it wasn't (because of the gating in Area Zero).
>>731068556
>it's not gated, you can go anywhere from the beginning. that's what open world is

>>731069528
>no it's not.
ok. forget everything i've said and explain to me why it isn't.

>>731068917
Because those are the only ones TPC wants them to know

>>731069570
Because of the gating.
>forget everything I said
No.

You admitted its not an open world. Why are you so upset over this?

>>731069614
>because of the gating.
then skyrim, gtaV and elden ring AREN'T open world right? because they're gated as well.

>>731068746
>"Im done talking to you!!!!"
>replies 10+ times
Lol

Common Open world Pokemon W

>>731069680
is it upsetting that im not letting you straight up just lie? lol

>>731069673
Yes. I already said this.
See?
>>731069205

Why are you so upset? Please answer my question.

>>731069725
What do you think i lied about?
Everything i have said is factual itt.

>>731069502
Then things won't be the same. They'll sell, but not at the levels they used to be

>>731069728
>gta5, elden ring and skyrim aren't open world
ok. then there's nothing to talk about here. all your posts have been in bad faith and you've never played the games. feel free to seethe about it.

>>731069783
you're delusional. you've never touched a video game before in your life. you've been unironically mindbroken by pokemon.

>>731068467
Zero Lab
"<player>!"
"OK, out with it, you... Who are you, really?!"
"You're really not...my momS/dadV, are you?"
"M...MomS/D...DadV?!"

When the player is in battle against the Paradise Protection Protocol

"That's totally cheating! And you call yourself an adult?!"
"You took that hit like a champ! You can do this! I know you can!"
"<player>! KoraidonS/MiraidonV! Terastallize—and finish this off!"

After the player has defeated the Paradise Protection Protocol

"Are you back to normal?"
"Huh? Wh-what does that mean?"
"You...you can't... You can't just go and say a thing like that now!"
"MomS/DadV!"
"How could you just...go? MomS/DadV..."
"Yeah. Somewhere deep down, I...kind of already knew it. I knew that thing was fake...but it..."
"When it said my name, using herS/hisV voice and wearing herS/hisV face..."
"Even if it was fake, it...felt real, you know. And so I just...I..."
"Sorry... I don't know what I'm saying..."
"Yeah... That's my bud <player> for ya..."
"Yeah... Thanks, Penny

>>731069852
I'm using your definition dude.
It's not open world, according to (you).
>it's not gated, you can go anywhere from the beginning. that's what open world is.
Those are your words, not mine. Stop crying.

>>731069852
>Can't say even 1 lie I told
Cute :3

>>731069965
>im using my definition dude.
ok. then by my own definition, it is open world. you cant stop crying about it. you're not very interesting to talk to.

>>731069965
>cute :3
tranny coded post. kek.

>>731070007
>ok. then by my own definition, it is open world
Thanks for admitting you are moving the goalposts, which is a logical fallacy.
I accept your concession :3

>>731065701
Not likely, worst case scenario for them they'll have to release a slightly improved remake of the original games like before.

As far as the normie opinions go, Pokemon is trash and they make memes out of people buying bad games, of course said normies have a 3-in-10 ratio of buying the game so it is what it is.

The only thing this frachise has is just memes, nostalgia and porno.

>>731065701
Too big to fail, if it didn't fail after SV nothing will ever do.

>>731065701
Last game was phenomenal. I am having so much fun trying out different setups and hitboxes on the ranked online it practically doesn’t feel like a chore to do at all.

im kind of getting "it's meant for kid's fatigue"
it's almost like, giving a kid a tablet and letting them wonder wherever the fuck they want to stumble upon, but it's a hobby that turns your kid into a massive consumer and massive autistic for a rpg maker level game

>>731071652
>ranked and it's just metafagging
sureeeee whatever you say it's just people using the meta rn and speaking of rn they're probably still using mega garchomp and mega gyardos still at this very moment since they have an overall stronger attack

>>731067037
I thought they liked money

>>731065927
That’s how most stores work anon…
The variant are teens being majority in a few places

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>>731071814
The "its for kids" thing is a bullshit cope. Those game freak leaks from last year said that calling it just for kids is too narrow and now we have those lego adverts aimed only at adults. They know who is buying this shit

crazy how much money this generates with how little/dog shit content it actually puts out.

>>731071564
>The only thing this frachise has is just memes, nostalgia and porno
This

>>731071328
I doubt they'll go back to third versions. Game Freak will try something new

>>731071564
In Japan, Pokémon is for normies, which is why it sells so well. And since it's a portable console, most people play it while commuting to work