How is this even fucking possible?Each of these games is a masterpiece.I wish graphics just stopped in the PS1 or PS2 era. Now we are getting an average game every decade.
>>731082649wow retro game prices are out of control!
>>731082649too many manhours spend these days creating assets, which need to be "realistic" and environments need to be fully created to the last detailit takes forever and involves too many peopleAI will fix this.
Pretty easy to shit out games when the standards were a couple low poly models moving on pre-rendered JPGs
>>731082896Okay now do this on a PC from 1996.
>>731082887>AI will fix this.
>>731082649millenials had it so goodhow do zoomies cope with games being so bad now?
>>731082649Square had shitty deadlines of 2 years max
>>731083420good deadlines*
>>731082896So how come they have trouble doing this today?
>>731082649I hate the shitty rat race for cutting edge graphics now games take forever and still aren't done on release
>>731083458they had to rush stuff in order to release the games in time, im not saying it should be like today, FF7 >>>>>>>>>>> FF7R, but still
>>731082649FF8 and 9 were developed at the same time.>>731083350Even worse, they'll outsource it to jeets who'll use shitty AI and still do a shit job.
You’re missing a pretty important 1998 release
>>731083725>FF8 and 9 were developed at the same time.explains a lot about 8
>>731082649We are living in a competence crisis. Will get only worse from here. Children are raised by ai.
>>731083725is this real? what game?
>>731083827Like what? Doubt that's true.
>>731082649Square saved themselves with what was going to be their 'final' fantasy back with the NES, but by the time the PS1 came around and the CD gave them the space they needed, that's when they reached their absolute peak, and not just with FF>Parasite Eve>Vagrant Story>SaGa>Xenogears>Chrono Cross>Threads of Fate>Bushido Blade (ok, that one was developed by Lightweight, but still)They were unstoppable. Too bad that FF Spirits Within fucked them over so much.
>>731083779the exact reason i posted this >>731083420but anyway, it's a miracle it exists in the first place
>>731083997>FF Spirits WithinIt still looks outstanding. Story and movie was shit af.
>>731082649These games suck ass. Final faggotry was NEVER good.
For most projects more staff and more time != better product. Humans don't work well like that. Small teams and short deadlines keep focus tight. And the lower budget means the higher ups don't stick their dick in so much.The mistake modern games are making is they think they can solve the problem with more bodies, but that means substantially higher costs which then leads to more involvement from management who are scared their money is going to pay for some niche shit that won't sell so they demand more and more changes to widen the potential market which then leads to boring slop that doesn't sell.
>>731083350Because Californians have proven themselves so much in recent years.AI would be better then those wastes of space.
>>731082649>2000 dollars for a game
>>731084238correct, more budget you have, and less creative freedom you have. that's why i hate modern industry so much
>>731083390They fortnite dance the blues away fr fr
>>731084125>It still looks outstanding. Story and movie was shit af.It wasn't terrible. It was a perfectly average sci-fi movie. The problem wasn't even just the money spent. Sure it was far far too expensive for a video game company to be spending that on a movie, but it wasn't even an outrageous sum by hollywood standards of the time.The thing that killed it and SE was that the japs weren't prepared for how protectionist hollywood is. You can't just put your movie out there and expect cinemas to show it. You need to suck the dicks of every fucker in the chain otherwise they'll just make a few phone calls and the global chain cinemas will all just totally organically decide to stop showing your movie a week and a half later. That's why I couldn't see it in the cinema. It arrived with no fanfare, hung around for a week and a bit and no cinema near me would carry it even though they had idle screens and nobody showing up for their matinees. There was serious bullshit happening and I'm damn glad SE learned from that mistake and didn't try for a worldwide cinema release for advent children.
>>731084585>It wasn't terrible. It was a perfectly average sci-fi movie.I just rewatched it like two years ago, you can't fool me. Spirits Within is shit.
>>731083973it was a cheap joke on why so many doesn't like 8
>>731084585>idealistic and naive people were fucked over by kikesA story as old as time
>>731082896So you're saying modern devs are stupid AND incompetent?
>>731083114This was also new technology that barely anyone knew how to use.
>>731084585>out there and expect cinemas to show it. You need to suck the dicks of every fucker in the chain otherwise they'll just make a few phone calls and the global chain cinemas will all just totally organically decide to stop showing your movie a week and a half laterThat's imho worse than it was for a long time. Funnily enough, japs should know, because they are far worse at this than any American ever.>advent childrenAnime are on dvd for a reason. Now streaming is killing cinema around the world fast. Cinemas should offer brand new movies at home, but they are stupid.>shitty movie didn't fuck seIdk, betting on an average movie sounds like a fools errand. It's mid, sure, putting too much money into it was retarded2 + 2.
>>731085005Obviously worked. Ff9 is campy, I like. Despite atrocious combat.>>731085035>japs are idealistic and naive peopleHuh?
>>731084238>lower budgets FFVII was the most expensive game ever made with the largest development team when it was released. It created the AAA development approach we see today.
>>731082649>How?Japanese crunchNo overbloat or feature creepOnly the producers/directors were corpo's lapdogs, the people who actually did productive work were focused on their job instead of dealing with 5 different tiers of mid-managersSakaguchi wasn't (for the most part) a creative diva compared with modern FF directors/producers
>>731085187>Idk, betting on an average movie sounds like a fools errand. It's mid, sure, putting too much money into it was retarded2 + 2.It apparently did really well on DVD suggesting that it being "mid" and fucking expensive wasn't the problem, it was just trying for a cinema release that fucked them over. Had they just released it on DVD and VHS and spent all the money they wasted on the film distribution on marketing instead then history tells us they'd have made it and Sakaguchi might not have had to fall on his sword.
>>731085247>Huh?>*attacks USA despite them being the superpower of the world*
I make this post with this image a lot but I stand by it. All these games in one damn year and im supposed to believe the modern way of making games is better?
>>731085515I don't deny that. But the important thing is that the actual development was compartmentalised. Doing all that CGI was expensive and hiring CGI artists where before you didn't need them was going to add a lot to your team. But the actual core of the game itself, the bit that actually matters was not substantially different to a FF6. The problem with modern development is that they have 10 guys doing the job of 2 and not all the work is even being done in this country let alone the same office. FF7 was expensive and a paradigm shift, but it was unbelievably more manageable than today's disasters.
>>731082896with 90s tech? okay.. why can't they do that now with with bunch of $5000 super computers and the latest unreal engine?
>>731082762I laughed
>>731082896>Pretty easy toExcept it wasn't at all easy.You should give it a try some time and see how much of an actual job it was working with some of that shit.
>>731082649why would i need to dissapoint you with a game I announced 7 years ago when you keep buying Skyrim over and over.
>>731082896Why do zoomers act like authorities on eras they never even lived in? It's actually hilarious because they are simultaneously right and retarded.>be zoomer>explains the 80s/90s/00s with 100% confidenceHere’s the blackpill: Their takes are technically valid but spiritually empty. They’re like coroners doing an autopsy. They can tell you exactly how the body died (validity) because they have all the data and zero "survivorship bias" clouding their judgment.>boomers/gen x have nostalgia goggles>zoomers just see the raw stats>they roast past economies/systems without emotional baggageThat part is based. They spot the glitches in the matrix better than the people who were playing the game at the time.BUT>they have zero context for the "vibe">it's all a simulation to them>they judge 1980 by 2024 moral standardsThey are ignorant because they only get the curated highlight reel. They can explain the physics of the water (valid) but they’ve never actually been wet (ignorant). They read the wiki summary and think they know the lore. TL;DR: Zoomers are architects drafting blueprints for a house they’ve never stepped foot inside. The math is right, but they don't know what it feels like to live there. Valid data, zero soul.
>>731082896Pretty easy, huh? And yet remaking FF7 is apparently an impossible task after almost 30 years of progress.FF7 was easy to "shit out" on 90s technology but today we're having discussions about if it's going to be "possible" to have a world map you can fly the highwind around.
>>731087659if they stuck with FF7 to the letter it would have simplified matters, but that's not what Remake is. you need to see each individually modeled pubic hair on Tifa.
>>731087659>>731087916Why couldn't they just do what they did with trials of mana? It's 3D. It looks decent. It's not hyperrealistic. It is almost the same game. And it was relatively cheap to make.But no, it has to be some hyperrealistic slop that barely resembles the original.
>>731087916If they stuck with FF7 to the letter you could have just played the original game. People crying for remakes that are just rereleases are zoomer normgroids who want to be in on a part of vidya culture but don't want to play an icky PS1 game.
>>731088490kys
>>731088508Hit a little too close to home, Aiden? You can download duckstation and play FF7 right now.
>>731082896Yet they've failed to make anything that stuck the landing for the better part of the past 20 years. Curious.
>>731088554kys
>>731087314based post
>>731085956>Had they just releasedSure, evidently.>dvd sales goodPlease, the name alone secured them the sales.
>>731086170That was due to a Soviet German spy, you know him as Dr. S.>us superpower That happened after ww2, sweaty
>>731082649It's not all graphics, these people used to work crazy hours and some would even sleep under their desks just to get this shit out the door on time. Now we're afraid of "crunch" and anyone in the games industry working any amount of "overtime" at all. It's pathetic, and it's more on modern game devs than anything else.
>>731082649>fft greatest hitswhy do fft bad like that?
>>731082649>calls 9 a masterpiece
T>7>8>9 in OP's image order
>>731090469op read too many video game magazines when he a kid
I would have liked 9 more if it were true to the classics where you lose and gain playable characters like sir fratly, or beletrix.
>>731090565Reminder.
>>731090756you should lower your HP to 1 and kill yourself
>>731090264>That happened after ww2, sweatyYou are fucking retarded. Any power that can supply that amount of stuff to the other side of the planet is a superpower.Lurk moar /his/ faggot
>>731090756>7 remake that won't be complete for another 10 years counts
>>731090847this is a final fantasy thread. not a lame browser based dead game
>>731090847>several factoriesYou're talking out of your ass because I know, for a fact, that factories can't be sent across the globe.
>>731090756I'd rather be faggot tier than be around your shit infested dog shit A tier
>>731090963make your own browser based ww2 game thread
>>731090756man you have a lot of favorites
>>731090756Motherfucker, did you just put Jacks game into F tier?
>>731085956>>731083997>>731084125Spirits Within was an OK movie but at the time we were all teenagers and the movie was riddled with adult themes instead of stuff that kids like.It's got the same amount of confusion as GITS or Evangelion, and since the movie is a one-off, everyone forgot about it instead of obsessing over it like people do with other japanese media.It's got a great atmosphere and it looks great even today, but it's mostly very shallow.
>>731090756free replies
>>731090756The entire remake trilogy will be forgotten after a month when it's finally done, doomed to only be discussed by the obsessive nohopers who cling to this IP due to an unhealthy attachment to the characters. The world will move on but this dwindling group of autistic balding millenials will still insist the trilogy was a phenomenal success and continue discussing it like the shit movie that came out 20 years ago that nobody but them cares about.tldr: The OG will continue to be a classic, the remake trilogy will be tossed on the garbage pile like all other compilation trash.
>>731084125I have a few of the original figures for spirits within. in box with the cardboard
>>731090756I don’t need a reminder that you are retarded
>VIII in 1999 and Legend of Mana couple months laterkino
>>731083997>Spirits Within>ghost touches someone and they die>"no the ghosts are just misunderstood and are really friendly!"I'm amazed the left isn't obsessed with the movie since it is like a mirror image of the world today.
>>731091284This is what's going to happen, there's no denying it
>>731091284Truth nuke
>>731091467Life is Strange had the MC have that movie as their favorite, so there's that.
>>731091461I still have the ff8 releases poster from PSM unofficial magazine 9.9.99
>>731090847I'm sure they sent this in the 1920s, you clown, you illiterate one.I'll help you: usa joins war and uppidity ups it's output and destroys means of production of other global players=>last man standing = you win.
>>731091467that movie was so bad. that wasn't final fantasy. the people who you're talking about have zero IQ. they don't know anything or what you're talking about
>>731091245>movie was riddled with adult themesTotally. My biggest problem with it. I wanted rinoa blasting neobahamut flares at skeletor's grandson.
>>731083114https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Rally
>>731091318Exactly what I'm saying
>>731091467Rent free.
spirit withen reminded me of star ship trooper mixed with alien, and was really shit
>>731091736Just think about all those doctor and ghost engineers who were expelled from their wartorn home!
>>731091735I'm saying they're probably worth $2 a piece
>>731082649>>731083390I wish we could still get Final Fantasy games like this, graphics continued to progress but this style is still superior for what type of game they want to make.
sprit withen should have been a movie about the light warrior or fucked real heros who went to space
>>731091787Now? Sure. Back then? Doubt it. Just look at the loony prices for re9 merch.
>>731091890I was talk about my ff movie figures in the pages still to this day. $20
>>731091648I wouldn'tve minded if there was an actual FF story with gimmicks from the games instead of it being just a generic scifi film.One of the main reason for AC being a lot better is because they focused on the fights and skills more than the drama. The games are more anime, in a sense, meaning that the story is moved onwards by conflict rather than dialogue.
>>731091284
>>731091890>>731091990I meant spirit within here lookhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/267249592787?_skw=final+fantasy+the+spirits+within+action+figure&itmmeta=01KF9FHV7QN76RNV6KVD2Y18HK&hash=item3e395129d3%3Ag%3AJXYAAOSwT-Bm2UEF&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAA8O7PUuNWmJ%2B%2BUShgI9tQz%2Fp7ss9FABEAc3H2CRGktv0sAM2uE96rVztSGMBeaTZ8uoShJlhGwfQqlfRI95FhCHBsoRP5Mbw1AjCx3UVkU8cJNKOHbxcFVt%2FQz6BrVWjDSZC86a269NEYCPWjrkwmntt%2FD57fvsoVqBAe88GlPegmKNHJXHLqlqzjyW5okX0T4BhX1rFMFuQNhzVo8jzeCbUeFItJC9JpLsvDJFoNk5O2JPzy5OAiXYwe9Kf015D0M9nMtSziZ5P6KaCmihDd5Gkw3%2BxaFqHq3vfATE3DAB9XSCys7hktusLzx3pFRrw%2FtA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_yzx6_6Zg&keyword=final+fantasy+the+spirits+within+action+figure&sacat=0&relatedSearch=true
>>731092070please don't ban me mods
>>731091693https://youtu.be/tBnhADlG4VU?si=8S5i8NM3rIM0mmJrBlessed death rally poster. Every song had separate pause music
>>731082649If you never wanted the Playstation Era to end, I have good news for you. Hold on.
>>731092137do you get to play as a cat?
>>731082896Every game was GOTY
>>731082762Oh Carlos
>>731082896looks aren't everything you faggot troon.
>>731092137That's more PS2 era, imo. Games like Toy Story 2, Croc, Parappa The Rapper, Medieval and FF7 are what embody the real PS1 essence.Anything too late into the PS1 lifespan gets too smooth. Deathtrap Dungeon and Nightmare Creatures are great ones too, showcasing the PS1's technical limitations by limiting the draw distance, giving the games a boost in their atmospheres of dread.
>>731092070>10x the pricewow 20 bucks! I'm rich
>>731083997>Square saved themselves with what was going to be their 'final' fantasy back with the NESNever happened. Square was doing just fine. Not a powerhouse in the industry but fine. It's like saying Final Fight was going to be Capcom's last game because it was their "final" fight.
>>731092137low effort indieslop
>>731092137https://store.steampowered.com/app/2732480/Emery_Hearts/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3316350/Flesh_Made_Fear/https://store.steampowered.com/app/2173460/Echoes_of_the_Living/https://store.steampowered.com/app/2949120/No_Vacation_for_an_Executioner/https://store.steampowered.com/app/2932900/Acre_Crisis/https://store.steampowered.com/app/2537470/Vultures__Scavengers_of_Death/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3726370/Heavy_Metal_Death_Can/https://store.steampowered.com/app/2094740/Dead_Heat/https://store.steampowered.com/app/1742730/Greek_Tragedy/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3460970/FESTERED_Demo/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3337980/Ivayami__Cradle_of_Fog/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3471890/MARKET_GARDEN/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3521490/Mystery_of_the_Malign/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3357960/KuloNiku_Bowl_Up/https://store.steampowered.com/app/1376110/Liberty_Belle/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3388280/Fille_Fatale_Compassion/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3581140/Clockwork_Maiden/https://store.steampowered.com/app/552590/The_Sexy_Brutale/https://store.steampowered.com/app/4234670/Parasite_Mutant_Demo/There era is only over if you want it to be.
>>731091860SE is convinced modern audiences are too TikTok brained for turn based combat in their flagship series. Which is ironic since I'm pretty sure games like Octopath and the DQ remakes are outselling real time combat FF.
>>731091284oh 100%
>>731091284Nobody denies this.
>>731092601I agree. I'd rather the new saga games too
>>731092576Im only interested in JRPGs, fag
>>731082762That's about how much a copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga goes for these days though
>>731092429PS2 also counts as Playstation era. But not PS3.https://store.steampowered.com/app/3040030/Background_Bells/https://store.steampowered.com/app/4018210/Restless_Dreams/
>>731092762don't reply to them they can make their own threads
>>731083945Reverse search newfag and that's Starfield.
>>731091217>soulslikeIt should be in H(asidic) tier.
>>731092601Yep, turn based is best, it is much comfier and doesn't demand that much attention. You can easily eat or smoke while playing them. Square assumes everyone is a ADHD 12 year old and wants real time action.
well never have a good final fantasy thread without other people infiltrating vros...
>>731091217Hi Jack, bye Jack.
>>731092576>I love the PS1, lets see what these games are about>90% are RE/SHlikesDo these people know we had games on the PS1 that weren't survival horror?
>>731092881Sad truth. Rpg do have to be comfy.
>>731092762I posted JRPGs, you probably just didn't realize because you are sort of a dumbass.
>>731082649I mean 9 was famously rushed and unfinished
>>731092881squenix thinks every American is a they/them faggot
>>731082649>VIII>masterpieceit has the most broken leveling system of the entire series except maybe II. Stop smoking crack and get some help.
>>731092991this is a final fantasy thread. are you illiterate?
>>731092995so was 7, and 8.
>>731093027The leveling is fine. You're just dumb.>but things get harder as you levelThey don't. You're just dumb.
>>731083945Apparently its fake, but idk, confirming would mean buying/pirating starfield, and that's not happening
>>7310826497 was legitimatly one of the worst RPGs I had played up to that point.
>>731093027ff8 is all about manipulation. you can beat the game at lvl 1
>>731093124It is strategically better to not level up in VIII and rely on junctions and draws, you insipid moron. It is the anti-FF title.
>>731093201what games have played before ff7?
>>731093205No you can't
>>731093201>>731093245>what final fantasy games
this is fine.
>>731093257you never played the game
>>731092975yeah, no shit, I only really go for survival horror because I'm a survival horror fan. If you want a retro JRPG fan go find one.
>>731082762i exhaled shapely through my nostrils.
>>731093057Well Final Fantasy is a JRPG so I don't really see the problem? Are you normally this retarded?
>>731093245SoM, CT, FF4, Terranigma, and Madou Monogatari.
>>731093407this isn't a general unless you're op
>>731093429no I meant the final fantasy games
>>731093483Just 4, which is in that list.
>>731093429>>731093483let me be clear. I was asking what games in the final fantasy series did you think were better than 7.
https://youtu.be/wQR3MHLkAUo
>>731084302>Look at those retards, eating gravel>Instead I will eat broken glass>No, it's not the best solution, but it isn't eating gravel!
>>731093309Neither have you.The lowest level you can beat the game is around 7
>>731082649Final Fantasy 7 gets a massive (though in my opinion lackluster) trilogy as it's reinvestment. Final Fantasy 8 got a cheap re-release with blurry machine-upscaled backgrounds as only addition. Final Fantasy 9 remake has been circling a rumor mill and every time an announcement is supposed to come, SE shelves it. 7 is the most lackluster of the PS1 trilogy. But you know how people are about firsts. It was the first that went from 2-D sprites to 3D models on pre-rendered backgrounds, so it'll always be nostalgia bait while the other two get shelved.
>>731093565No, I will not buy GTA6.
>>731093532>>731093483>>731093451why is this guy suddenly obsessed with Final Fantasy?
>>731093668take a close look at OP's image
>>731085005The only people that don't like 8 are retards that grinded levels while ignoring the junction system. Not to mention nobody was ready for level-scaling in a genre that was known for hitting level 99 on all characters as a given mandatory.
besides tactics my favorite original final fantasy is 4
I love tifa, but Rosa is the best wife
Crystal Chronicles is by far the best FF game to have ever released and its not even close. It also has the best music.
>>731093749take a look at these fucks that I give. fucking freak. Why was OP talking about the PS2 if all the games he posted were PS1? I can post what I want, dumb fuck and what I want to post it.... this.
>>731093663Can you put out the fire WITHOUT crushing the building with a steamroller? Because more often then not, people say "The problem is there is fire" without understanding why that's a problem, and think the solution is removing the fire. They don't understand the problem is the destruction of the thing that's on fire, so they'll come up with some equally destructive "solution" and bill themselves as having solved the problem.
>>731093968you're retarded. make your own thread
>>731094000No, I will not buy GTA6.Go starve.
>>731094087Literally only children care about GTA6.
gta6 will be money grabbed gay bullshit
>>731082887I am so happy the split in gaming is about to come with the absurd price in hardware on its way pushing the mainstream fascination for photorealistic graphics to game streaming platforms. Meanwhile we'll have enthusiast devs making games for our niche enthusiast hardware just like it was back in the day.
>>731094029You made a thread wishing that graphics stopped in the year 2000. I'm going to post games where graphics stopped around then. Dumb Freak.
>>731082649tech continued to innovate and inspired creation. ai is the opposite of it as people just demand answers and creation out of it. also you can't just put ff7 without including that xenogears and parasite eve were more or less developed alongside it. it was superstacked.
>>731088508>>731088698you first
>>731094087Nobody cares or wants you to buy a game that a gorillion other people are going to buy on name aloneStop assuming that everyone who calls you a retard is for the things you're against, retard
>>731094270you're so fucking stupid I don't even want to respond to you.
>>731082649They're okWe're getting a team ninja game very year that surpasses them in every category
>>731094463lol
>>731094397check out this one. vewy old graffix
Each of these game was also developed at the same time.Basically when FFVII was nearing completion for the PS1 they ware already refining the engine it used to make FFVIII.And FFIX was being developed as a Gaiden Spinoff FF game but ended up being Mainline.
>>731092137>anti magpie propagandadaily reminder that if you get targeted by magpies you deserve it. they know bad cunts when they see them.
>>731094526maybe later.
>>731094142Because that's the only people Californians can even cater for these days. No one wants to buy their shitty games because they have no talent.
>>731094521Stranger of paradise is the best game with final fantasy in the name :)
>>731094543ff8 was also hastily "finished". most square soft games were rushed to meet Japanese quotas at the time. xenogears is a giant example
>>731087916>>731088490Bullshit strawman argument.It's entirely possible for remakes to deviate from the original without going off the rails.Look at the Resident Evil remakes. They aren't entirely faithful, but they also don't have Albert Wesker From Another Universe running around.
>>731094660I never played the game,but I know he's garland and all the bats you kill in the original game are the heroes of light
>>731093235It's strategically better to hit 100 because that's where all the best items for the ultimate weapons are dropping like candy, you insipid moron. It's the anti-faggot title.
>>731082649>Each of these games is a masterpiece.
>>7310837253d scan not cleaned up.
>>731094660I really wanted to play that game but it the game just reminded me of chrisis core hojo battle fields. is that game just a boss Rush?
I killed 100,000 Shinra soldiers. I can't take that kind of thing anymore
>>731082649>Each of these games is a masterpiece.You should really go back and replay some of these "masterpieces" some time, and make sure you apply your critical thinking about game design that you have learned over the last 30 years.You'll be amazed at how many of these "masterpieces" are not "masterpieces" at all.
>>731082649turns out you can crank out games pretty quickly when they use low poly models where you don't need to mocap them and rig a bunch of facial animations and other bullshit. >>731094660it's up there but 75 cap final fantasy xi is still unmatched. but that's an unplayable game for most so i'll take sop as an answer.
>>731082762Lel
>>731082649these are honestly all pretty shit except for FFT maybe>>731083779and this is one of the worst games of all time lmao.they're all very amitious games, granted, but not really impressive on the gameplay side.
>>731095189no?its like nioh. action game stages with smaller shits and a big boss at the end of each.
>>731094660Jack's game is good but for me it's https://aamace.itch.io/xim
>these games from my childhood/teen years were super duper amazing masterpieces threadanon wake up. Toys r us is no longer a big store anymore. You can stop huffing the hallucination nostalgia gas. They were just programmed pixels on a screen, a matrix in your kid brain, and you are in the desert of the real now.
>>731082649You missed X, the superior game, in 2001. Yes you will be mad.
>>731093407This was an amazing game
>>731096350Final Fantasy X is good, but it established certain traits (such as the lack of a world map) that have been a long-term detriment to the franchise.
>>731096269leap off a cliff.
>>731096435This. I can't believe how Squeenix hasn't realized that fans loved the world map and removing it did a number in itself.The fact that someone like Sandfall has a better grasp on consumer demand than the company that laid down the whole genre is just baffling.
>>731097564Square Enix seems to perceive the world map as being a "stopgap solution" to being unable to represent the entire world in detail. What they don't understand is that the World Map is in fact one of the best-implemented fast travel systems in video games. It lets you have the game world exist at a continental-scale or even planetary-scale while still allowing the player to get around it in a reasonable amount of time. They never understood how good they had it.
>>731087659>if it's going to be "possible" to have a world map you can fly the highwind around.why wouldn't it be? you can already boat around it in Rebirth
>>731097887Do you have any concerns for part 3?
>>731082762Those are the release years
>>731097757I agree. Hell, even Kingdom Hearts' world selection is better than the list of checkpoints you can warp to from your "not-a-static-environment airship".
>>731098045Only the catfight being removed.
>>731082649Japanese companies harvesting souls of suicided salarymen after 1990 crash. They say if you own both a n64 and gamecube in same house you will hear voices and bad omens follow you.
>>731092769>That's about how much a copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga goes for these days thoughnigger please that's nothing compared to how much 32x or Sega CD games go for. Try to find a complete copy of the US release of Keio Flying Squadron for less than $3000.
>>731082649>different team>different team>split team from VII>different team from basically everyone involved with VIII
>>731092769>one ownerLike its a fucking car lmao
>>731098386>from a non-smoking household
Nothing can match the raw power of a team of Japanese men eating cigarettes, sleeping under the desk and working 90 hours a week. Japan has lost its way.
>>731082649Having talent instead of diversity, mostly.
>>731082762I chortled
>>731082649>turd based>looks like shitfuck off unc
If FF games were still as great as FFX the series would still be beloved.at no point did spira feel small and you have more going on in the literal hallway mi'hen road than you got in most past FF games overworlds.lack of an overworld is not why FF13 and the following FF games are dogshit.its a completely misplaced focus.
>>731100383To be honest I'm having a hard time thinking of a single thing 13 did right. The graphics were pretty(and still look good honestly) but that's about it.>every character aside from sazh and maybe snow ranged from unlikable to boring>story was ass and had half of it locked the an encyclopedia>zero side content until near the end of the game and even then what was there was lame>fucked character progression>fucked gearing>fucked battle system>couldn't even be assed to put the entire story in one game
>>731100717Are you forgetting someone important?
>>731101243Nope. Not a thing.
>>731101243This man truly was the downfall of SquareEnix.
>>731083390By blaming millennials (the age bracket who grew up with those games in their teen years got wiped out in the great recession)
>>731100717the battle system is pretty good but it didnt do enough to push people towards utilizing it properly.it takes all the way until the bart fight at the very end to actually have the doom timer on the party which forces people to engage with its system (which then promptly filtered tons because they didnt have a reason to learn it up until that point).
>>731093303It's depressing looking at any of these charts for long running series.
>>73108264997-01 were god years for RPGs
>>731095832>Filtered
>>731100717The game felt lonely.
>>731101687I cannot forgive the whole you control one character and just have to hope the AI does the right things with the other two. Especially after 12 let you make AI party members that actually functioned.
>>731092048Spirits Within mogs advent children.
>>731101882I would have been okay with the 13 AI if I could turn off garbage (like half the Sen skills) and change buff prio on my Syn.
>>731083390by becoming nazis...
>>731095832>zoomer filteredlol, lmao
>>731082649Except those were slop back in my day. Face it, kiddo. Our time period was just better. You live in the gay dark ages.
>>731098386>only 200k rotations on this disc
>wanted to discuss the golden era of FF>only find ragebaitthis board died around 2014. you're either corpses or bots.
>>731082649I also wished gaming was made in a vaccuum, but FFVII and SquareSoft would've never got the momentum they got then if it wasn't because of huge backing from Sony to prop up their new console, and the sales of FFVII enabling them to go crazy while expanding their company.If gaming stayed at low-power the industry would probably just get abandoned by investors over time and die off, because when nothing changes people don't stay interested, unfortunately. But you can look to Assassin's Creed as a good example of why that's true for most things. We ought to be happy there are only 16 main Final Fantasy games and not 35 of them.
>>731082649most of ff was just 2d cg backgrounds and basic shaders
>>731082649I'm offended you're ignoring X (2001) and Kingdom Hearts (2002) but can accept XI (2002)X-2 is a recycled game so okay.
>>731083114Squaresoft was using like 30 of these, I think they were $20-40k each back in the 90s
>>731083114show JPEGs on the screen?
>>731082896Final Fantasy 7, 8 and 9 had cutting edge graphics for their time.
>>731082896Okey, show me your Final Fantasy IX
>>731105824:3
>>731086186>Saga Frontier>Einhander>FF Tactics>Xenogears>Parasite EveAnd nowadays we get The Last of Us Final Mix HD
>>731106013yu aight w boy
>>731082762lost even though... yeah. Idk, earned a (You) kek
>>731090756Based/factual
>>731092069cute, saved
>>731093407>From the creators of Moon and ChulipHell, had no idea of this game existing
>>731082649this isnt even half of it. we also had huge leaps in tech every few years. it was improving so fast there was always some mind blowing shit coming out.
>>731092576Love the designs, a shame that I'm not into survival horror
if retro trannies actually believed this, they wouldn't be spending time making these dogshit threads
>>731082649One of those is a spin off and two of them are mid as fuck. Sakaguchi killed the franchise by wasting a gorillion dollars on that fucking movie.
>>731093960game is ass solo
>>731083350you're gonna be coping and seething for a real long time, anon.
>>731092769I knew someone who had this when I was 17 but he was a burnout autistic tranny chaser I wonder if he still has if or got a weirdo tranny gf
>>731082887it'll take longer because they'll fire more people that they need and the 'irreplaceable' retards in middle will stop, start and restart the same porjects to then have them be canceled by 'irreplaceable' retards upper management.
>>731107778They should hire you anon, you sound very smart. :)
>>731096989Anon it's ok. If you put down the pudding cups and lunchables you'll snap out of your 10 year old nostalgia daydream and realize RPGs from 1999 are flawed and kid you thought they were way better then they really were cause the main guy was rocking some anime weapon and shooting fireballs was the raddest thing ever. It's ok to be a grownup now and realize your back hurts a bit and you can't go run in circles for an hour without getting tired.
>>731083480Standards have increased, if you released these games today they'd be buried on steam.That said there was vital shell which got popular a few weeks ago. It was a vampire survivor clone with ps1 graphics so it actually is possible, just rare. Lots of indie ps1 throw backs on steam atm, most never sell more than a few hundred copies.
