Is the laughing scene in FFX really as bad as the internet say it is?Is the voice acting in FFX really as bad as some people make out?
>>731089595Yes and no. VA is FF10 comes across as awkward at times because they're splicing samples together for some scenes due to limited space.
>>731089595its meant to be a cringe yet sweet bonding moment for yuna and tidus. but autist incels can't understand that.
>>731089595>Is the laughing scene in FFX really as bad as the internet say it is?No, the scene was entirely criticised by retards who didn't understand the context that it was supposed to be an awkward fake laugh.>Is the voice acting in FFX really as bad as some people make out?If anything it's the opposite, everyone jerks it off as a great dub but that just reveals the low standards people have for dubs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r2sztRLqac
>>731089660I want to say "couldn't they just compress the audio?" but then I remember 12 where everyone sounds like they're speaking out of a garbage can due to compression.
It's intentionally cringy. The people who watch it without context and scoff are retards.
For the umpteenth time they were forcing themselves to laugh in that scene to cheer Yuna up.
>>731089660>withyunabymysideHearing Tidus go from his somewhat slow steady monologue to cramming that last bit into a second always makes me chuckle
>>731089804"video game technology peaked in 6th gen"I for one am glad for the 7th
>>731089768>If anything it's the opposite, everyone jerks it off as a great dub but that just reveals the low standards people have for dubs.Is that a more recent thing? Back in the day the only time it was talked about was when ironically quoting prominently bad line deliveries like STAY AWAY FROM THE SUMMONER
Sin is Jetch
>>731089970Jetch??
>>731089804Keep in mind some lines were intentionally recorded that way in FF12 because characters WERE speaking while wearing a helmet, but yes. This wasn't even changed in TZA because geniuses in charge probably don't have the source audio saved.
>>731089970>wandering flame starts playing Kino https://youtu.be/1DVz_yAuyLo?si=yiGXRd8cucYbpcHo
Remake when
>>731090081It's always kino when wandering flames plays
>>731089595No it's actually extremely wholesome, but mentally ill and socially stunted people have change it into something it's not. Imagine never cheering up a girl by acting silly. Imagine never making them feel secure. You can tell who is a pathetic loser / virgin by if they don't like the laughing scene and I'm not even slightly joking. Like it takes a genuine lapse in human nuance to not get it. Like baseline emotional intelligence.
>>731089595NoBad is an understatement. The voice acting is abysmal. John DiMaggio is the only one putting in a decent performance.
>>731089804how in the fuck is ff12 still the one with best voice acting?
>is the scene as badMost people don't know the context of the scene, which is Tidus faking the stupid laugh to try and cheer Yuna up. It is intentionally cringe and it comes from a time before everyone was a socially whipped faggot afraid of saying or doing anything that would get them labeled as weird and recorded for e-clout.>Is the voice acting really badThe voice acting from that era used a lot of staple western cartoon voice actors so it does sound very unrealistic, but it's a HELL of a lot better than modern dubs of Japanese media. There is some cringe like Wakka's accent being really overdone.
>>731089595Rewatching scenes from the game, Titus is pretty consistantly a strange childish man, which the game uses to show how fucked up and complacent everyone else in the world has become.
>>731090270Because the plot actually takes itself seriously and tries to be a high fantasy political story.It's still really fucking gay how the western VAs can't pronounce names like Balthier or terms like Marquis correctly.
>>731090151>Tidus decides to go with the flow>Operation Mi'ihen aftermath>"Legendary Guardian? I was just a boy"I'm glad they used it sparingly it's too good to be thrown out arbitrarily
>>731089595It's good cringe
>>731089595What gets me are the people who have played the game, have seen the scene within context and who still don't understand the scene
>>731090364It's kind of insane how Nomura just stole FFX's vibe and themes for Kingdom Hearts
>>731090340>It's still really fucking gay how the western VAs can't pronounce names like Balthier or terms like Marquis correctly.I always thought different ways characters pronounce some words lends itself to their different backgrounds. It's more believable than everyone speaking in uniform manner.
>>731090325>Titus is pretty consistantly a strange childish manbruh he's 17
>>731089768tpbp
>>731089595No, the laughing scene was intentionally cheesy. Retards miss the point.FFX had some of the best voice acting at the time, and it still has very good voice acting.
>>731090270Too bad they used horrible compression on the audio files so it sounds like absolute shit.
>>731090285>but it's a HELL of a lot better than modern dubs of Japanese mediaYou're judging it by low budget affairs, which obviously isn't going to be equivalent. Square weren't regularly recording PEOPLE's sexiest man alive 2001, but they are doing so for sexiest man alive 2025 Jonathan Bailey.
>>731090467Everyone gets the scene dumbfuck, it's just very awkwardly done.
>>731090227>John DiMaggio is the only one putting in a decent performance.
>>731090474No, nobody in the game pronounces Marquis correctly. I don't mean some characters having different pronunciations, I mean nobody on the VA staff being worldly enough to pronounces French words the right way. It just fucking irks me.I'll walk back Balthier because apparently in Japanese his name is pronounced Barufrea which is closer to Baltheer.
the dialogue would improve with a remake. some lines are just fucking weirdly delivered. Like Titus saying "Ihateyou" to Jecht in less than a second with no emotion. If you listen to him in Dissidia it actually sounds much more normal with more emotion when he's fighting Jecht.
>>731089595>know full well it's pronounced Tee-Dus>still pronounce it Tide-UsWhy are people like this?
>>731090632>genocide intensifiesHAPPYFESTIVALFIREWORKS
>>731090619I don't know who Jonathan Bailey is or what his voice acting sounds like, I'm talking about the modern anime dub tropes that make everyone sound like a screaming faggot trying to take a shit.>>731090632DiMaggio always goes ham with his performance but it always ends up sticking out. He has the same problem as Migelo in FFXII
>>731090656>Like Titus saying "Ihateyou" to Jecht in less than a second with no emotion.That's a problem of the western voice director wanting to match the lip sync in the dub even though the original Japanese voices didn't try hard to do that in the first place. Same reason for the "I love you" rewrite at the end.
>>731090656>the dialogue would improve with a remake. some lines are just fucking weirdly delivered. Like Titus saying "Ihateyou"They could lipsync to english, so voice actors wouldn't have to force their lines to match japanese.
>>731090656The way Tidus says "Hi" to Jecht in that scene always felt weird to me
>>731090656probably an issue editing the english dub to match the cutscenes. Sonic Adventure 2 has this same problem where lines overrun each other or got incorrectly edited into the cutscenes.>>731090718Tide-us just sounds a lot better in English.
>>731090656Supposedly this is because the japs are so incompetent that all voice lines had to be the same length in JP and EN. That's why whenever Yuna says "hai" it's voiced as a split second "yiss" in english.
>>731090718Because Teedus sounds stupid, and he's a water-centric character so it makes vastly more sense for his name to be Tide-us in English.
>>731089595>>731090626they literally laugh normally right after that part btw, proving that it wasn't bad voice acting and it was done on purpose because the idea was that doing something ridiculous like laughing will make you happier, because Yuna was trying to cheer Tidus up.nothing about it was "awkwardly done". Unfortunately, you have to be not autistic to get it.
>>731090270Verily.
>>731090865Even if that was true (which it isn't because line lengths differ all over the place) it'd easily be solved for any line where the Japanese is longer by adding silence at the end of the English line.
>>731090926For some reasons normgroids lack object permanence and so if there's one scene or event that sticks out in their head as awkward or something it rapes their entire brain and they feel compelled to performatively shit on that thing like they're 12 years old and back in junior high.
>>731089595Guys what are your thoughts on the wedding crash? Is it over the top cringe or is it kino?
>>731090992why are all the indians fucking white in this game>>731091031God I fucking LOVE the style of the city pre-renders that Square was doing between 9 and 12.
>>731091031It's cringe because you get a few grunts pointing weapons at you and are forced to immediately surrender and go to prison.
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>>731089595The english voice acting is awful.The Japanese voice acting is good.The laughing scene is terrible in both because its meant to be.
>>731090926>they literally laugh normally right after that part btwLiterally NOBODY thinks that is the voice actors are attempting to laugh normally. The fact that is what you're hung up on means you should not be participating in this conversation. Jesus Christ.
>>731089595Nothe whole context of the scene is it's a fake laugh. They're forcing themselves to laugh because Yuna's feeling down. What most clips miss is the explanation before and the far more genuine/well-acted laugher immediately following the fake laughter because it succeeded in making them laugh.It's like those hard cuts of Johnny Silverhand that make him say silly things, only dishonest and for the opposite purpose.
>>731090718Its literally tie dus
>>731090718Pic related may have something to do with it.It also doesn't help that, as the only character the player names, they never say it in game. I think even the sequel never says it either.
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Steam version of TZA bugged out on me, have to run it in Windows 8 compatibility mode and that has DirectX all fucked up and for some reason the game genuinely looks a lot more like a PS2 title, must have messed up the AA or image sharpening or something.Anyways it's making me very deeply nostalgic for a game I never played growing up and is only further convincing me that graphics were a mistake.
Tee-dus sounds gayerTide-us sounds manly as fuck
>>731090718It has no official pronunciation because they changed his name for the english version.
>>731090626>it's just very awkwardly done.THAT'S THE POINT OF THE SCENE.
>>731091174>Literally NOBODY thinks that is the voice actors are attempting to laugh normally.They literally do to the point that the VA had to put out a video calling it out.
>>731090754>Same reason for the "I love you" rewrite at the end.I cri every tim
>>731090718>game has voice acting>can still choose MC's namewhy did they do this?
>>731091652Because the game let's you name all the summons
>>731089595>Is the laughing scene in FFX really as bad as the internet say it is?no, that opinion only comes from people with no context of the scene>Is the voice acting in FFX really as bad as some people make out?sort of, tidus is meant to be a complete gigachad 99% of the time but the english va makes him sound like a goofy doofus
>>731091828This.FFX literally created undubs, that's how bad the voices were.
>>731089595>Is the laughing scene in FFX really as bad as the internet say it is?Yes. Defenders try to claim, that both voice actings are intentionally so and therefore it's unfair to think it's bad. However that was never the problem. The problem was that Nojima had a blank page and the freedom to write whatever he wanted and chose to write the laughing scene on it, when he could've made the two bond over in any other non-cringe way instead. So the scene is bad.>Is the voice acting in FFX really as bad as some people make out?It's bad, but it's not quite as bad as one would remember it being.Nowadays this is a pretty minor issue considering almost every scene Nojima writes is to a degree the laughing scene.
>>731091957>the scene is bad because the writer had two characters do something cringe
>>731089970what did he mean by this?
>>731089660>>731089824I heard that because of how the game-engine works, the English audio files needed to be the exact same length as the Japanese audio, and this causes issues.
>>731089595It's awkward and bizarre because no Western-minded person would ever think to do it. Asians in general and specifically Japs have this odd sense of humor derived from constantly suppressing their emotions and being hyper-aware of their social standing from the use of honorifics in their language. It's like an entire culture of people with Peter Pan syndrome.
>>731089970it can't be helped
>woah this out-of-context scene is pretty cringe haha :skull:
>>731092945It's not that westerners would ever do it, it's that it's just acted out in such a bizarrely melodramatic way that it becomes really uncomfortable for western audiences who aren't familiar with Jap media. And FFX being a pretty early example of breakout Japcrap media, and FF in particular being so painfully fucking Japanese, made it hit a lot of people extra hard with the cringe stick.It wouldn't come off nearly so bizarre and awkward if Tidus and Yuna behaved anything like normal human beings taking the piss out of each other.
>>731089595To this day, FF games are hit and miss with their voice acting. X was the first Final Fantasy to be fully voiced so they weren't really sure what they were doing. Bad voice direction can result in wooden performances even from veteran voice actors. In X's case, most of the actors were veterans and were able to compensate for the dumbass direction they were getting to try to match the japanese language lip flaps, but in places it resulted in either rapid or drawn-out deliveries, primarily by Tidus and Yuna's voice actors since they had the most lines, where there was a significant difference in how long to took to say the line in English vs the original Japanese.
>>731090364>"Legendary Guardian? I was just a boy"Absolute kino scene
>>731093273>it's just acted out in such a bizarrely melodramatic way that it becomes really uncomfortable for western audiences who aren't familiar with Jap media.It's literally awkward in Japanese too and Yuna herself finds the situation awkward.>It wouldn't come off nearly so bizarre and awkward if Tidus and Yuna behaved anything like normal human beings taking the piss out of each other.t. American who thinks people are unable to express themselves in any mode other than constant sarcasm and irony
>>731090270They used a lot of theater actors who were used to saying their lines without being micromanaged by the director.
>>73109027013 actually has REALLY good voice acting, but it's directed in the most retarded anime way possible.
>>731089595It seems the general impression is that Tidus is like 25 acting retardedBut no, he's a 17 year old boy with a bad relationship with his father and resentment towards his mother with very little normal social interaction due to the celebrity of his father and his own successHe comes off as weird and obnoxious because he is. And its very well done. I dont see the issue desu
>>731093462I understand the point of the scene is to be cringe, what I'm saying is it double-doses on cringe for western audiences because the japanese love their overly melodramatic, stage-show performances which are already pretty cringe to western tastes unless you're fairly bought-in. So you have two characters who already don't really talk and act like believable people doing the equivalent of mugging for the camera.>people are unable to express themselves in any mode other than constant sarcasm and ironyIn western languages we do tend to veil our deliveries behind a bit of irony, but that's because we're good enough at expressing and reading emotion that we don't need to go full Shakespeare. Playing up your emotions in your delivery feels stiff and unnatural, like a child acting for the first time. It's why Anakin's lines in the prequels rubbed so many people the wrong way. You can bitch about people today being too irony-poisoned but it's never going to make Japanese performative emoting less cringey to english speakers.
>>731090072Both X and XII had their source code and all assets trashed the moment the games went gold.The company that made the "remasters" had to remake the games from scratch with whatever they could scrape from the compiled games which is why the models are completely ruined.
>>731093673>But no, he's a 17 year old boy with a bad relationship with his father and resentment towards his mother with very little normal social interaction due to the celebrity of his father and his own successTidus is not characterized this way though.Which is kind of a problem in and of itself, although it sorta makes sense in-universe, it's just not very well explored.Tidus is WRITTEN as someone who at least believes himself to be a total gigachad, and I think the writers and game director thought he was a total gigachad, but then he acts in a way that is SUPREMELY childish and sounds like a total dork in english.For me the jury is still out as to whether this effect worked as intended or whether Tidus just suffered drastically from different audience expectations between America and Japan.
>>731090468Nomura did all the visuals for FFX.
>Is Mozart really as fucking trash and garbage as people make him out to be (not just me projecting my opinion)?
>>731092590Correct, since games are supposed to be fun. Also correct since the romance is at least the B-plot if not the main plot. I didn't respect the relationship until X-2.5, so its presentation must've been lacking.
>>73109027016 had good voice acting
>>731094026Right, maybe stole is the wrong word, but my point remains.
>>731094153>games are supposed to be fun so the most important thing is whether the romance between two anime characters is believablewhatI don't think any part of FFX has ever been believable, for anyone. I think people mostly play it for the gameplay.
>>731093907I'll always find it funny that the change from forward rendering to deferred rendering and the PS2's hyper-competency at rendering transparencies in textures has made it the defacto king of transparencies since it released. Tidus's hair in your image exemplifies this.
>>731089595>Is the laughing scene in FFX really as bad as the internet say it is?it's supposed to be awkward and funny>Is the voice acting in FFX really as bad as some people make out?it's not great but I still like pretty much all of the cast. the japanese dub is better and you can play it with that much more easily now.
>>731094269Games really never needed better graphics than FFX provided. With just slightlybetter CPUs/GPUs and more RAM you could've brought these level of visuals to GTA style games and it'd have been enough for anything.
>>731093775>it double-doses on cringe for western audiences because the japanese love their overly melodramatic, stage-show performances which are already pretty cringe to western tastes unless you're fairly bought-in. So you have two characters who already don't really talk and act like believable people doing the equivalent of mugging for the camera.Meanwhile in western media
>>731094178It's less taking and more "it was Squaresoft's newfound style at the time". Like how Parasite Eve with Nomura artwork sits comfortably next to VII and VIII as repurposed vestiges of abandoned VII concepts. Some of that bled into other games like Crisis Core and Dirge of Cerberus too, and not just engine and effects. By the time of XII, things shifted internally for a different style, though it helps that Matsuno and others were handling it quite differently to begin with, even before yet another Matsuno meltdown.
>>731094413I'd say FFXII was the peak we never needed to move past. Those assets were always there well before TZA and emulation really shows how much they be cleaned up.
>>731094478... has anyone ever pretended that scene isn't the cringiest fag shit ever created though? The Tidus Laughing scene is pretty stock Jap cringe while I AM A SIR JUN is still probably the most definitively cringe thing ever produced in western tv.
>>731093967This is just how Jocks act dude, he's a literal sportsball playerHe IS a gigachad, he has girls asking for his autograph in the first scene
>>731094573TZA is fucking peak texture work imo. Playing it today you can tell how much they were skimping the polygon count so they could have lots of characters moving around in real time, but it just doesn't matter with how gorgeous the character and environment texturing are. And they cribbed ALL the right things from ILS and the Star Wars prequels as far as the ship and city pre-renders go.
>>731094637>... has anyone ever pretended that scene isn't the cringiest fag shit ever created though?Listen to yourself you fucking moron.>the laughing scene in FFX is bad because it's cringey even though it's cringey on purpose and it's representative of japanese media where it's totally less cringey there>the screaming autist scene in medical drama is just cringey garbage by hack writers so who cares it totally doesn't represent western media
>>731090340they actually did pronounce marquess correctly, but they incorrectly chose the french variant of the word for its spelling
>>731094687the gook conception of a jock is fucking laughable to western standards especially in 2001.>>731094819All I've said is that the FFX scene comes off as even more cringe and embarassing than the writer intended due to the mismatch in social cues between Japan and America, which come up all the time in Japanese media and make it very cringey to American audiences, especially in 2001.And for some reason you're reaching for the gayest lamest thing ever created in the West and saying "well see Western sensibilities are gay and lame too" as if everyone didn't clown on I AM A SIR JUN
its pretty hardcore in the ps2 versionif you play the hd demake though it looks weird as fuck
>>731094413I agree with that. Game development times are getting so long now due to graphical demands that they're completely skipping over generations of kids and teenagers and are over-reliant on people who were already fans decades ago to push sales numbers.
>>731094996>All I've said is that the FFX scene comes off as even more cringe and embarassing than the writer intended due to the mismatch in social cues between Japan and AmericaAnd the problem is that you still can't fathom that it's cringeworthy in Japanese too and gets laughed at over there as well. You keep pushing "oh the standards are different" yet simultaneously positing that they aren't because Americans have less tolerance for it and different acting when no, it is meant to be cringeworthy regardless of language and you just think you're above it.
>>731095123>And the problem is that you still can't fathom that it's cringeworthy in Japanese too and gets laughed at over there as well.No, I fully understand that. Once again, my point was that the scene is far more cringeworthy to an American audience unfamiliar with Japanese media tropes. Not that Japanese audiences didn't find the scene funny or cringe at all, but that for a lot of Westerners the only thing they know or remember about FFX is how fucking cringey and gay this one scene is because it sticks out in their minds just that badly. And again the difference between this scene and I AM A SIR JUN is that this kind of cringekino is fairly common in Japanese media, because it's really not trying to do anything crazily over-the-top, it just comes off extra cringe to an unprepared western audience, while I AM A SIR JUN is a singular paragon of horrible writing, acting, etc even in its native language.
>>731094819Shut up you moron. You know exactly what we're talking about.
>>731093907>Both X and XII had their source code and all assets trashed the moment the games went gold. How does this happen? Surely it isn't intentional?
>>731096164The idea of preserving source code and assets for future remakes is fairly new. That shit used to take up a ton of storage space and wasn't worth the effort to preserve back in the day.
>>731096164It's probably exaggerating a bit since no one publicly knows the actual details, but it was a common trend in Japanese game development. Say you finished Sonic 2, wrapped up development after years of chaotic bullshit, but now it's time to create Sonic 3, what are you gonna do for code? The ethics and logic of backing up the data wasn't really a standard, so they'd take that source code and build the next game directly on top of it. Who's gonna care in ten, twenty years? Now I'm sure that's not what actually happened since Sonic Jam on the Saturn had native ports of each game a few years later, but that's what you generally had to deal with. Kingdom Hearts 1's source code was lost, probably because they built 2 directly from it and had no backups, so for the HD Remix shit they had to use KH2 to recreate KH1.Meanwhile in the west devs would just delete shit because the contract was over, or keep them stored on CD discs like what happened with Starcraft and then forget where they had them. In general not many people considered any sort of longevity or preservation besides folks like John Carmack with the Doom source code. And since many developers were getting more and more corporate, what would happen with that source often fell to executive demand.
>>731096164Hard drive costs were at a premium when those games were developed, and doing version control across dozens of CDs was a nightmare during a time when CD burners were error prone. Thus, game data gets deleted to make way for new game data as remakes and remasters weren't a thing that was considered back then. Consider that a top of the line consumer HDD in like 1995 was like 4 gigabytes and cost $300.
>>731089595No. It's intentionally taken out of context to troll. Some people fell for it. It's a nice scene even if it is a tad cringe. But it's a fucking JRPG. They all have some cringy shit.
>>731091442Wait what did she say in the Japanese version?
>>731097097>"Thank you"
>>731097131Ah right.
>>731097131>>"Thank you"To be fair I think "I love you" suits better for English. I'm assuming the "Thank you" fits better in Japanese?
>>731096757>intentional cringeWow that's convenient. I wonder why FF gets this pass but no other game does
>>731090467I understood the context when I was 12 and didn't think much about it. Didn't realize people made such a big deal of the scene until it got memed online. I feel like an actual autistic person made a joke over it once and a bunch of normie retards who never played the game piggybacked on it
>>731089768>If anything it's the opposite, everyone jerks it off as a great dub but that just reveals the low standards people have for dubs.I think this is more the problem that FF has generally god awful dubs aside from XII and now XVI, since so many of them will still do the HIYA [grunts] OOOOH shit even when they have a decent cast and aren't dubbing lines on a week to week basis
>>731090468early KH has the same writing duo that FFX did, the real conundrum is that they couldn't pull FFXIII together the same way and the company has been in shambles ever since
>>731097319I remember reading something about how no-one shows appreciation for what Tidus has done or what he sacrificed in their journey to that point, so the singular "Thank you" from the one he sacrificed so much for, Yuna, carries a lot of weight for him.
>>731097850didn't a lot of the same people work on 7 and 8?
>>731090141they had one and it's shit
>>731099090That was just a visual downgrade
Cringe
>>731090718Teedus is a pathetic gay little name for a child with low teeTie-dus is for a blitzball chad that gets transported to a different land and fucks the most known woman (virgin btw) in the worldTiedus is powerful souding, tee-dus is weak and meager ez
>>731091914>It’s melodramatic, thus Japanese.
>>731089768>No, the scene was entirely criticised by retards who didn't understand the context that it was supposed to be an awkward fake laugh.Even if you take it as an awkward fake laugh that it's meant to be, personally I think it was done poorly.With that said, I do still think the dub gets a little too much hate. It's ok at best, not the worst thing ever but definitely not "good".
>>731099090REmake I mean
>>731089595Tidus is being intentionally silly to cheer Yuna up.Retards on the internet who never played the game love to yap without knowing anything about the game.
>>731101587Just what I want, a bunch of niggers and gay couples in every screenshot and Lulu getting a mastectomy so she doesn't make the troons kill themselves.
these threads are like 70% femanons.
>>731089595This anon got it right: >>731089768The full context of the scene is:>Yuna sad af>Tidus wants to cheer her up>tells her: "if you can't laugh for real, just fake it, it'll make you laugh for real". >Demonstrates:" hhhAAAA HA HA HAA! hhhhhAAAAA HA HA HA HAAAA!" >She joins in>They fake laugh the sad awaySo of course it feels "fake" and "forced" because the context of the scene is that they're literally forcing a fake laugh to distract themselves from things sucking massive balls in the world.
>>731091031>clearly AI usedI wish this trend would fucking die. This AI art looks so ass.
>>731102608What if the side pods host teleporters? checkmate liberal.
>>731102608You know I can't tell if you're being ironic because this is literally how these people are.
reminder that Tidus is white and Yuna is asian and FFX is just BWC WMAF propaganda like every FF game (and thats a good thing)
>>731090141I hope never
>>731104348Tidus looks like a Japanese pop artist boy in the cg cutscenes.
>>731089595No, the internet just overreacts to everything
>>731104904cope. he looks like a blonde surfer from Australia
>>731102009That's literally not how the scene goes. Yuna is the trying to cheer Tidus up since he came back from meeting Auron all sulky and upset. She's the one who talks about how she practices smiling for her journey and then makes him do a fake smile and then the fake laugh.
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>>731089595the laughing scene without context is as cringe as you can think, if you know why it happens it makes much more senseand the voice act is not bad but also not good but not by the actors fault, back then they didn't rework cutscenes so they had to dub over the lip movement of the japanese video, so a bunch of times the deliveries sounds weird, specially Yuna's since she tries her hardest to sync with the video and a lot of lines has weird pauses everywhere
>>731105595FFX doesn't use prescored dialogue, so it's the same dubbing process for the Japanese audio.The same is true for 99.99% of anime.
>>731106775(me)I'm not contradicting that it's bad in English with the random halts, but it's not actually that much more natural in Japanese due to the process used.
>>731089595No, zoomers don't understand the context of the scene. They're hamming it up on purpose
>>731090270It's not. You're a 12 fanboy
>>731094170Everyone but Clive. Whoever told Ben to whisper all his fucking lines needs to be shot
>>731107005Zoomers? People have been complaining about it since like 2002
>>731091031Im still sad we never got to explore Bevelle. Only reason I want a sequel over a prequel. Got all of the eastern continent you could use too
>>731089970My old man?>>731093652Yeah, I'm playing 13 now, it does have a pretty good dub, despite the anime-isms. It's crazy how similar 7 Remake feels to 13, even their dubs feel similar.
>>731090718How did you know it's tee dus when in the west that name is always pronounced tide ass? Not meaning just ingame either
>>731091652>>731091775They let you name all the aeons
I genuinely don't get what people mean when they say 'tide-us' sounds better. I don't think it does.
>>731093907>>731096164It's been a thing in Square since day 1. 8 remaster had the same problem
>>731107534Cause you're a gayboiBut in all seriousness, it's the normal way to pronounce the name in english as well as sticking to the MC naming convention of Final Fantasy at the time being elemental weather shit.Before some ackshully fag responds, yes I know Tidus means sun in Okinawan
>>731089595The internet was wrong. It's kino, unfortunately.
>>731107560The 10 and 8 remasters were outsourced to random Singaporean and Chinese studios
>>731107767Okay but how does it sound better, people always say "tide, us" it sounds like two separate words not a name.
>>731089595>Is the laughing scene in FFX really as bad as the internet say it is?Yes, but intentionally so. It's the one scene where the shitty acting makes the intended cringe actually work.>Is the voice acting in FFX really as bad as some people make out?Yes, it's pretty bad. Partly why playing the original version is a chore since cutscenes are unskippable.
>>731107534>Sea themed game>Latin fantasy sounding name.Tide-us sounds better.He is not Norman Teedus
>>731090467Did Yuna always have that bra? I could've sword I just watched a stream and thought "oh hey sideboob."
>>731107901No they don't. They say tideus in the same speed you would say the teedus. The only time it's elongated is in discussions like this to make emphasis on the difference
>>731107849That has nothing to do about them keeping the originals, esl
>>731108004She did in the original. Maybe your child like zoomer mind didn't fully understand side boob at the time
>>731105286He's kind of right though, he does it because she told him to, but then he does it again because she finds it funny which she then joins in on
FFX was the last good FF game
>>731108338>FFVI was the last goof FF gameFixed
>>731108267I'm 35, I think got mandela'd cause that bra was not there before last week
>>731108552You dimension hopped. Cause I remember that bra from my childhood. I thought it was the one sexy thing about yuna, that you could see her bra
>>73110833812 is 10/10, 13 is 9/10.
The whole game is corny it doesn't stand out but I'm grateful for this meme.
>>73110883613 is a 5/10 13-2 is a 6/1013-3 is a 4/10
>>731108004>>731108267It's a bikini
Fucking retards.This was understood decades ago.
>FF7 is grim dark>FF8 is school days>FF9 is whimsy fart>FF10 is summer beach vacation
>>731108004>Did Yuna always have that bra?Yeah but I always thought it was a bikini
>>731108959Correct except bump all of them down by two points
>>731109109FF7 is cyberpunk schizocore.
>>731109109>we never got the desert themed FFthey cancelled the one with the coke cola bottle
>>731109012never heard of it.looks shit though.
>>731090364>Auron walks up just to aura farm with wise words for Tidus and mock the religious dudes for retreatingdead badass guy: "A swift retreat."dead priest guy: "What do you mean?"dead badass guy: "Those that turned from Yevon died, while the faithful live on."ordinarily you'd think someone couldn't be this cool but he isby the way, WHAT THE FUCK is wrong with the captcha system
>>731089595>148 KB JPG>Is the laughing scene in FFX really as bad as the internet say it is?No, this scene is supposed to be Tidus acting like a fool to make Yuna feel better. It's a good scene. >Is the voice acting in FFX really as bad as some people make out?Yes, the English dub is one of the worst of all time.
>>731110065>by the way, WHAT THE FUCK is wrong with the captcha systemRemastered for phone users
