>Warhorse had 2.7 billion crowns worth of profit the year they released KCD 2Why didn't the controversy affect them at all?https://www.ceskenoviny.cz/zpravy/2731609
>Chuds>MatteringPick one and only one
Chuddhabros...
>>731100065rep destroyed it will always be a gay company now
They'd have made 6 billies if they didn't have the black guy. Checkmate.
>>731100214
You now remember /vpol/tards being completely sure that any gayness and blackness the game had were tranny falseflags. It's a wonder how these absolute geniuses could be wrong about KCD 2's success.
Inserting politics bought it favourable reviews. They lost old fans but gained more customers.
Look man, I don't care about the wokeness, I'm just sick of open world slop.If anything, I'm glad KCD 2 is woke so that /v/ didn't shill it like they shilled the first one. Boring ass games.
>>731100065Lucky there are enough goyim to buy slop.
>>731100670>Implying the first one wasn't slop too
>>731100065Even if there wasn't evidence like this, it was obvious that the game didn't flop when they were touting 4 million copies sold within 9 months. The first one barely cracked a milly in its first year.
>>731100580basedimagine the nonstop shilling of the retarded combat and empty map this slop would have gotten if it were le basedall bad games should be woke so that /v/ isn't allowed to shill them
is the dlc any goodi got pretty mad because i felt like the blacksmith one they announced should have been in the base game and henry should have fucked right off to start his own shop after he tells hans to go away.
I didn't play 1 because I immediately saw this gay virtue signaling as the pathetic shit it was. /v/ was fooled into shilling this jew's shit.
>>731100924They're just alright sidequests added in. Nothing special.
>>731101191>Happy HolidaysVghThe VVest Has Fallen
>>731101191They're just rubbing it in lolJews
>>731101191Is that... Is that HIS face?
>>731100748I don't think I implied that.
>>731101278No, you're just severely mentally ill
>>731101364No, you're just severely mentally ill
Why isn't there some sort of investor for trad vidya? There's obviously a market for it and if left to their own devices or Blackrock's, devs will always add leftist shit.Elon Musk, for example. What's stopping him from investing in trad vidya?
>>731100379
Ok but is the game good?
>>731101903yes
>>731100218
>>731102173What a shit stirrer
>>731102173>>731102229I hate this kind of social media posting. It's so gay. And yes, it was gay in 2016 too. Don't try hitting me with a gotcha.
Maybe in 2 years /v/ has mellowed out about Kingdom Cum 2 and can see it for the immersive sim masterpiece it is.
>>731100065normal people are tired of the woke right pretending black people didn't exist in the middle ages and that you shouldn't be gay and that protect synagogues is somehow not the right thing to do
>>731100924KCD2 has worse DLC than the first game>help a meme painter who sends you to fetch quests so you'll have custom heraldry>fix your father's old forge and establish your "home base" in the big city>monastery quest that amounts to nothing and is a severe downgrade over the first game's monastery questKCD1 DLC had actual soul>you play as a female character prior and during the events of the early game>you help your bro (who will later turn gay) get laid but first you're shoehorned in a long ass quest>rebuild an abandoned town you just recently retaken from bandits and insurgents, becoming its bailiff>ride out with a robber knight and his crew who are working for your real dad for free like a 4chan janitor
>>731102340Nah, I'll still think it was open world slop. Just like the first one."Immersive Sim" was always a retarded genre name to begin with but allowing Daggerfall and Morrowind to be considered in that category assured that it lost all meaning it could ever have had.
>>731102391It feels like they put actual effort in the DLC after, whereas this time around it was just side quests they sliced off the game to sell later.
>>731102173Link, please. I want to laugh at the seething responses.
>>731102391>monastery quest that amounts to nothing and is a severe downgrade over the first game's monastery questOnly thing I saw was during the Italian Job main quest the nigga you helped in the DLC was still blind. (Happens if you fucked up)
>>731102340I don't see the appeal
>>731100065Everyone knows that condescending libshits are fucking annoying. In the same manner, they realized that alt-right faggots talk a lot about being rationality, but are actually the most bitch-like emotional crybabies in existence.So people stopped listening to either.
>>731100065>2.7 billion crownsthat's like 700 000$.
>>731100065controversy was vastly overblown /v/ acted like the game was filled to the brim with nigs and gays
>>731102936exactly. we rational thinkers need our black and gay people in our medieval European games to enjoy ourselves
>>731103073its just what you would normally expect when travelling to medieval Europe. meet a lot of gay and black people because thats how Europeans were back then
For a dedicated shitposter the barrier to making a 1000 posts about niggers and gays for all to see equally much as any other poster is very low.If you play the game at launch and go talk about it you had 24/7 discussion being overwhelmed by polshitters who dominate the discourse, no one can put them on ignore and 4chan systems work as the political loudspeaker.
>>731102391that sucksi enjoyed all the dlc for 1.also when i replayed 1 recently i remember when i first played you could become the huntsman for talmberg i think it was and do hunting quests but for whatever reason i couldn't find it again.
>>731103295That whole questline is bugged and was never fixed
>>731103295kcd2 dlcs are wayy better than kcd1The painter quest deals with mental health issues, letting go of the past and moving, objects or people who tie us into the past. Its dull but so is every quest in the game, at least it has a unique theme.The forge is okay, it works as a home base that you can invest some money into and its desirable to have.
>>731102545https://x.com/DanielVavra/status/1988770617273827334
>>731103294To be fair, KCD 1 wouldn't have had even half the discussion it had on /v/ if not for the /pol/shitters broadcasting it.Live by the sword, die by the sword, and all that. Except it's only relevant here and nowhere else.
>>731102936It wasn't really because all that shit is in there but only in the second half. Getting lectured by that nig, your jew half-brother and women, christianity getting shit on constantly, no churches you can enter but a synagogue that didn't even exist until 500 years later and Henry eating literal shit. The condescending nog and save-the-jews shit isn't even optional. It's part of the main quest and you can't even be dismissive about it.And the gay romance shit may be optional but it has no reason to exist in the first place.All of this goes against what was promised in the Kickstarter, but now that Vavra had the first game funded by supporters and gubment funding to get his studio off the ground, he doesn't need them anymore and went full mask-off.But the funny thing is, I don't even care much about that, because even if it wasn't in the game, I still wouldn't have played KCD2 because it's just more movie-game nonsense I don't care for. I thought the first game was a good start, but they blew it and added more of what sucked about it and less of what made it good, which is medieval life simulation.
>>731101903Better than the first. Comfortable 7/10
>>731100065>Why didn't the controversy affect them at all?it did also henry is drug raped in the game and he can only be happy about it
>>731104397>movie-gameI think you're mistaking KCD2 with RDR2, my friend.
when someone gives you even the slightest hint they didnt play the game the thread OP is about why ever reply to them
>>731100978There can never be a based jew. All of them produce filth. The Talmud commands them to act like chameleons in order to trick goys into trusting them.
>>731105218All of that shit was cringe as fuck and you're a retard if you ever thought it was le based
>>731104549>it didClearly not.
You can only rugpull once.
>>731105218>normal replies made by a neutral person who has comfort in knowing his beliefs are closer to reality than some political commentators who want to push a false narrative, and he feels comfy talking about it since his company is financially secure and he wont be firedhuh
>>731104943Kingdom Come is a movie game. The introduction alone is hours long, on rails and filled with cutscenes. In both games.
>>731105924No one gives a fuck lol
>>731100065>Why didn't the controversy affect them at all?Because Vavra hid everything until literally the day before release.
>>731100065Because the controversy was about 10 twitter/vtards throwing a fit. No one actually cared.
>>731106150See: >>731106145
>>731106615Because Steam totally doesn't have a long standing history of removing negative reviews when they interfere with "the message" from high profile games.
>>731106101>zoomer doesn't know what a movie game isExpected, but still disappointing.
>>731100065>KCD1 sells 15 mil>Sequel releases>director acts like Cuckman>sells 4 mil in a yearthis is somehow a win just like TLOU2 having 4 mil preorder sales and wilds having 10 mil. All 3 games are still garbage despite it .
>>731106840>W-W-WE WERE SILENCEDlmfao
>>731106961KCD1 sold a little over 1 mil in a yearKCD2 sold over 4 mil in 9 monthsYou suck at math
>>731107080Zero award wins btw
>>731107237Same as the first one, then. Except the first one was never nominated to begin with.
>>731100065You're a dumb nigger.You don't know what profit is.And it's pointless to measure profit in one fiscal year when games are developed and sold over many years.
>>731107135Nigger kcd1 was a completely new IP and sold 15 mil total now. Its like comparing tlou1 sales in a week vs tlou2 in a week. When the only reason it even sold was the 1st game being pretty good, you brainbroken culture war cuck.
>>731101551lol pathetic cuckyou'll never be white
>>731107237It literally won GOTY.
>>731107431>When the only reason it even sold was the 1st game being pretty goodKCD 2 is better than 1.
>>731100065Notice how E33 had no controversies at all.Go anti woke, win GOTY!
>>731102173>I deceived the goys surely this will allow me to keep succeeding now that they all know how much of a dick sucking faggot I amGood luck with that.
>>731102340KCD isn't immsim at all. There's no emergent gameplay. That's about the level of retardation I'd expect from a 2 apologist.
>>731100065The outrage easily costed them 5-10 million sales at the least, that's good enough for me, can't stop the trannies and the jewish investors from consuming/paying for their wokeslop, can only go so far
>>731102391You have to love the chuds moving the goalpost:>we will boycott and the game will fail and the studio will go bankrupt>okay, maybe it sold great, but it would sell even more if I didn't boycott it>okay, maybe it sold great and had great reception, but it won't even win a goty, loool what a failure>okay maybe it won goty, but journalists bad and corrupt>okay, maybe it sold great, won goty, had great reviews, is universally loved by players, but muh soul
>>731107703Reviews are good. No one cares.
>>731107858You spend way too much time on /v/ if you really believe that. It costed them a couple thousand chronically online nutjobs at most.The average person who plays games does not pay attention to this kind of crap at all.
>>731107830You don't even know what emergent gameplay is you fucking retard. Or you haven't played the game at all.
They just nuked KCD as an IP and no one will ever buy their games again.Them getting snubbed at TGA was icing on the cake, all of that woke and they walked away with nothing.
>>731107858lmao this anon called it
>>731100065Because they're also owned by Embracer Group and thus have a giant umbrella to shield them from such issues.
>>731108334Why are you acting like they got any awards when it was KCD 1? I don't get it.They sold 3 million more in the first year. They succeeded.Reviews are good. Your fantasy that no one will buy it anymore are pure delusion.
>>731108314>>731108349The first game sold 15 million, so I'm going off by that, but yes I concede that the controversy was ultimately powerless
Eternal reminder that Vavra went back on every position he had with KCD1 because he was terrified of getting pushback from journalists again.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV2rm2qR8U4
>>731108425The sales have considerably slowed down and I'm not really sure it'll pass 1 which would be a huge embarrassment. On top of that, most of the sales literally came from the good name of the first game. Once people realized how pozzed the sequel was, well, the results are clear.
>>731108619His positions were fucking stupid as fuck and just virtue signaling, so it's no surprise he just decided to virtue signal to another side.
All these investors here. KCD2 has worse combat, story and dialogue. It might be more polished, but the only thing it does is make it far easier and boring. The name is also connected to assfucking thanks to hans now. I dont give 2 shits if it fooled enough normies to buy into it. Wilds did over 10 mil and in the end its a turd far worse than all previous title and the director is an insufferable retard that is on the same level as druckmann.
>>731100065Because chuds don't matter.>but muh BudlightException that proves the rule.
>>731108678>The sales have considerably slowed down and I'm not really sure it'll pass 1 which would be a huge embarrassmentNothing indicates this. They slowed by the time they it 3 million and they still hit 4 million in a year, which is over 4 times more than KCD 1 did in a year.The bazillion KCD 1 sales are counting shit like indie humble bundles. So KCD 2 will inevitably catch up when they start giving their way for 2 bucks like they did the first one.
>>731108732>Wilds did over 10 mil and in the end its a turd far worse than all previous title and the director is an insufferable retard that is on the same level as druckmann.I don't know why we always need to have these "Get woke, go broke" copes as if normalfag consoomers give a shit rather than just talk about how the games are shit.With that said, KCD 1 was shit too, don't fool yourself.
>>731108775>Nothing indicates this. They slowed by the time they it 3 million and they still hit 4 million in a year, which is over 4 times more than KCD 1 did in a year.No, KCD 1 sold 2 million copies per year.>So KCD 2 will inevitably catch up Probably. But 'catching up' isn't exactly what i'd call a success given that this is a sequel to a highly praised game with a much higher marketing and overall budget. At any rate, the real test will be KCD 3 where Warhorse won't have the good name and will of its predecessor.
Consumers are goyslop eaters
>>731107858Lol endymion loser viewers feel really self important. You incels don't play videogames. You spent your free time getting outraged over videogames. It's a full time hobby. And every day a new woke game is coming out and you have to point it all out. You have no power. And for every incel who boycotted the game there are 3 fujoshi who bought the game only because it has gay romances.
>>731108334So all of those players who bought kcd2 and say it's the best game they played this year will never buy another kcd game? You really don't realize how irrelevant you are. The game is succesfull by every possible metric and players love it.
>>731108962>Warhorse won't have the good name and will of its predecessorWake up, anon. Reality doesn't reflect your wishes and echochambers.
>>731107858>w-we are m-millions!!!
>>731109126lets not get insaneits an alright game, and the dei checkbox stuff is overblown by a factor of a 100 but theres like better games out there
>>731108619Eternal reminder he doesn't say anything like that in the interview. You construct your own false reality so you can get outraged about it
>>731109220Sure, but that's true of the first game too
>>731109154>ah yes since TLOU2 got good reviews from retarded normies it means it didn't tank the franchise
>>731109248>Sold 4 times the amount KCD 1 did in the first year>Already has the same number of reviews (less than 3k less) in an eight of the timespan and they're just as positive>But they somehow lost good will, because... Because I said so, ok?
>>731109248Intergalactic is gonna sell well just God of War Ragnarok did
>>731108493Funny how you have to lie to "prove" your point. Kcd1 sold 2 million in the first year, then another 5 million in the next 5 years, often deeply discounted. It started selling again when kcd2 was announced and sold another 3 million from the hype and very low price, like 5 usd or something. In total it sold about 10 million, not 15. You made that shit up.
>>731108965#Hansry
>>731109596>Kcd1 sold 2 million in the first yearSource? I could swear it only sold 1 mil.
>>731109596yeah I bought the complete edition on an insane discount in prep for 2but obsessing over sales for pol discussion points is retarded to begin with
>>731109596I'm not out to prove anything, I went off a figure I saw in a website, anyways have fun with your wokeslop and I hope you enjoy more gay sex in KCD3
>>731107629AI art assets.
>>731100065Because its a good game and only faggots got faggot options.
>>731109693boo
>>731109220I'd love to play them, because there weren't any this year. You people just push on the rails fake rpg slop or some shitty indie slop as the "better games". Yeah. That's not working on me.
>>731109852If you like kcd series you might want to go play witcher 1 and 2
>>731106961Vavra is basically Druckman, both are high on their own farts and genuinely believe they're beloved celebrities.
>>731109693I didn't enjoy any gay sex in kcd because I'm not gay and don't choose gay romances in games. Funny how that works out.
>>731109654Source is warhorse twitter
>>731110195So there's like 1.5 million without DLCs?
>>731110195Cheers.
>>731100214Yes you've destroyed their reputation by helping them have their highest-selling game of all timeTruly a devastating result
>>731108321>You don't even know what emergent gameplayYou're such a stupid nigger faggot. Emergent gameplay is by definition gameplay that arises from interacting mechanics that the devs didn't plan for. KCD has none of that, and you're probably such a fucking retard that you think people reacting to your clothing constitutes emergent gameplay even though it's all shit the devs accounted for.
>>731111378based fujochad
>>731110462Do you understand what "&" means?
>>731111432Always a pleasure.
>>731110684That's not the definition of emergent gameplay you smelly nigger. Emergent gameplay just means that the game moments weren't specifically pre-manufactured for the player, but they happen because of game systems. Which is what happens in KCD games all the time.>You fight a bunch of bandits, you're almost dead, but then suddenly a noble who was just randomly passing by decides to help you, bandits are distracted and you can run away>you fight bunch of bandits, kill most of them, injure the last one, his fear stat tells him he should give up and he starts running away, when he runs away his yelling wakes up another bandit who slept in the camp, suddenly the injured bandit is not alone and he returns back to fight you>you shoot at npc who's wearing a plate armor, the arrow bounces off, deflects and hits another npc>a guard is chasing you because you stole something, you run away from the town before you surender, he's now easier to intimidate because he's away from his fellow guards>you poison food and put it where npc will walk, he picks it up, eats it, dead
chuds lost
>>731107830>KCD isn't immsim at all. Name 5 games you consider immersive
>>731100065they're rich right now thanks to lies and bait. but these schemes won't work for their next games. they should close the studio and changing activities
>Muh reputation Outside of /v/ people who play either like it or get bored early on due to realism.Nobody is really getting pissed about the black NPC
>>731113448See: >>731109154
>>731100379are these the "noticers" I hear so much about?
chuds are the most pathetic geeks on earth. Simple as
>>731113448good morning saars
>>731102173>all that marketing>all that production value>only sold 4 millionkek. stellar blade sold 3 million and that had like a fraction of the budget
>check the charts heigher daily peak than any other single player game from 2025 including monster hunter wildsI think they are doing alright Even if some of the criticism is valid there still a lot of to love similar any other massive open world game.
>>731111378>>731111978>>731112921Frotting won
>>731114405>I-i-i-it actually needed 8 million sales to break even!Cope
>>73111440590% of Stellar Blade's sales are from China and on the PC release. It took 3x longer to see that result because of this
>>731100214Watching KCD2 shills have an absolute meltdown over the GOTY announcement was such a joy. Never seen such a pretentious band of faggots be reduced to crying messes so hilariously
SEA /v/ had nothing but losses in 2024 and 2025
>>731113543I uninstalled it cause of the save potions
>>731114728Everyone started attacking E33 because even the dumbest kike knew how astroturfed it was by western journalists
>>731114542Crossing swords to victory.
>>731114763>People who played KCD1 complain about this game being piss easy>New fags are still getting filtered by limited saved.Lmao, that being said they could've mitigated this by having a second "Experienced" difficulty at lunch
>>731104397Take your meds, crackpot. All you have to do is not play the game. You don't have to make up lies about it. It's really pathetic that couple minor anachronisms completely mentally broke you. We have freedom of expression here, accept it, or go be brown somewhere else.
>>731108736Wrong. No nobody drinks Bud except rednecks. Chuds dont play KCD, so their boycott did absolutely nothing. Same thing with Hogwarts Legacy. There it was even more hilarious, because people who boycotted it don't play videogames at all.
>>731100065It was a major success, but I think without the gay stuff and the nigger it would’ve been an even greater success. Don’t underestimate the value of chud viral marketing.
>>731115341I'm fairly confident the gay stuff did more than enough to offset the potential loss. Especially thanks to Luke Dale. The actor who portrayed the deutragonist, Hans. He's been ride or die for Hansry since the start.
>>731110530IDGAF about politics, I GAF about Terraria.And there are a couple games ahead of it but I don't think deliverance is in front of Terraria as far as best sellers go.Unfortunately both of us are dwarfed by Minecraft, which I would probably have liked an equal amount but I tried Terraria first, about 5 years after my Terraria crush developed.Never played the kingdom comes, are the similar to M&B?
>>731114740nah we got concord and we'll never forget it
>2.7 BILLIONWHOA>crownsOh lol
>>731115465I feel that the game was gonna be a success regardless of what had happened, it had decent marketing, it rides off of the reputation of a successful game, and the marketing team/Vávra were sneaky enough to hide/deny the woke bullshit only a week before launch, nobody except the most uncompromising of chuds would've taken notice that the game had sold its soul
>>731115708If it were a big deal, there'd be controversy after. No one cares. Game reviews as well as the first one.No one got fooled. No one cares.
>>731115979If you deal on absolutes maybe, and ignore everything else
>>731100093The people doing that falseflag becomes immediately obvious when you notice the sheer amount of fujoshi and normie women that flocked to the game.>But where could they have come from?Luke Dale(Hans' voiceactor and face model) started streaming just before the sequel's announcement and garnered a following of very thirsty women that reached critical mass and started getting more women into the game by release. Whenever they flock to a fan community they also launch a campaign trying to turn it into a "women's space".It failed because the game's actual following were never terminally online. The funny part is even Vávra himself literally called out that he's being accused of being "woke" by the exact same people that called him a nazi years before.This is how fucking bad of a falseflag attempt this was.
>Don't care about idpol retardation>Enjoy both games>???>Profit
>>731116286>The funny part is even Vávra himself literally called out that he's being accused of being "woke" by the exact same people that called him a nazi years before.libtards became chuds in the span of 7 years? wow
I didn't care for the drama for either of these games but i am upset they using UE5 for their next game I am going to miss the performance and pretty forests so the trade off better be worth it
>>731116486>i am upset they using UE5 for their next gameI thought Vavra was vocal about his distaste for that engine? Why the shift all of a sudden? Is Deep Silver demanding they utilize it or something?
>>731113054>That's not the definition of emergent gameplay you smelly nigger.It literally is, you demented retard faggot. You know nothing about emergent gameplay or what makes in an immsim. You are a retarded semen-addict licker of black testicle. You know nothing about games. That's why you think KCD2 is good and that it's an immsim.
>>731116354Audentes Fortuna Iuvat.
>>731115708>Woke bullshitFaggots already were in the first game and limited tourism between the middle east and Europe was already a thing mentioned a few times too.The one negro in KCD2 couldn't leave the camp where he had the king's protection and the reason why he was at a backwater of Europe is he fucked where he shouldn't have and is in hiding, having hoped for a good spot as a royal physician as an exotic miracle man only to be kept around solely for information on the Ottomans.>But he's from a declining kingdom. He managed to get to the middle east and get education there. That's it. His spiel is bullshitting obviously to keep his ass alive as a foreign curiosity with ludicrous fairytales.Here's your education, tourist, but you will just copy-paste this same retarded shit over and over as you have no thoughts of your own .
>>731116580My theory is that they are working on 2 games and there's like 1000 white guys in total who knows how to use crytek So they are using another engine for the second game.
>>731113342>Name 5 games you consider immersiveThiefThief 2Deus ExArx FatalisPrey
>>731116580Vavra doesn't believe anything and constantly changes his mind on whatever is easiest, and no, I'm not a chud, I hate him cause he's sucking off AIslop.
>>731116645>all that coping and seethingIbn wasn't even a nigger, he was an arab
>>731116620>emergent gameplay Name 5 games with what you consider emergent
>>731116753That's a fair point.
>>731116829see>>731116750and shut the fuck up. Physics simulations are also a big part of emergent gameplay. Something like BotW is infinitely more of an immsim than either KCD game.
>>731116750>Prey>Literally all the tools in your arsenal as specially design to serve alternative purposes >Emergent The thing is games post 2006 are way more sophisticated and streamlined so it's really difficult to have any systems without the the devloper putting them in place intentionally.
How the fuck did Immersivesim autism of all thinks make it into this thread? IT'S NOT A REAL FUCKING GENRE. FUCK OFF.
>>731100065>Why didn't the controversy affect them at all?Virtually no one even knew about itmost people don't post on /v/
>>731116407They were never libtards. They are Global Homogenist Communists. They play as both parties because they want the entire system of society and government to collapse along with total erasure of all cultures so they can make the totally viable Communism happen on a global scale all at once taking pages out of Christianity and Islam's books, which conquered and ruled absurd territories while eradicating local culture.
>>731116920I think I'm Sim design and games being immersive are 2 different things Games like RDR2, death stranding and system shock remake are immersive because you feel like a part of this living breathing World.While other games you mentioned are more about using your arsenal in different way to achieve same goals While I don't think KCD is an imsim but I think it has some imsim elements and is a very immersive game.
>>731116945>EmergentYes, between the gun that lets you build improv staircases or put out environmental hazards, the toy that lets you hit switches and the typhoon powers that let you do things in combat or turn into small objects and sneak through small spaces. Not to mention the combat fuckery you can do with stuff like recycle grenades.>The thing is games post 2006 are way more sophisticatedNot at all.>streamlinedThis is true, and why most promising games now are indies.>systems without the the devloper putting them in place intentionally.The systems are intention. Their resulting interactions are not. The idea is to give the player a bunch of tools and simulate systems in the game world then let them play with it to solve problems and achieve goals.>>731116990>How the fuck did Immersivesim autism of all thinks make it into this thread?Someone called KCD2 an immsim, which it's absolutely not.>IT'S NOT A REAL FUCKING GENRE.Correct. Only retards think it's a genre. It's a design philosophy that just means the devs made a systems and mechanics driven game that lends itself to player choice that leads to emergent gameplay.
>>731117129>I think I'm Sim design and games being immersive are 2 different thingsThat's nice, but it's a non-sequitur because the conversation is about immsim design, not general immersion. KCD is an immersive game and a great RPG with RPG systems, but it's not an immsim.
>>731116814What are you trying to pull from your ass? Mali still had an active trade route to the Middle East in the time period. Random scholars that don't touch grass aren't the most reliable source. Most of historical misconceptions that keep getting proven wrong by actual evidence is from historians constantly sourcing both each other and random scholars talking out of their asses in echochambers of the time. It's literally like trying to use fucking Twitter and Reddit comments as a real source.
>>731116993It did seep onto sites like Youtube, Twitter, and Reddit for a bit. Ultimately going nowhere in the end.https://x.com/Grummz/status/1917324025061335437https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPnrCCfQPI8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNikixc5XVE
>>731117180>The systems are intention. Their resulting interactions are notI think that line is rather blurry because they for sure to know that "Dev's didn't think of that"Like in something like white knuckle you can bypass most of the level using right rebar and interia but it seems like something the devs accounted for.
>>731100065I liked it
>>731117214Agreed.I think people just have very different criteria for what they consider imsimSome think dishonored is an imsim but mgs5 is not which is weird.
>>731100065This is the one where you can fag out?
>gay sex>controversyoutside retards on here no one is going to give a fuck, it's not 2004 or even 2014 anymore that's hardly cutting edge for a non asian developer
>>731117484Makes sense when you consider that it's not a real genre and that some people need it to be first person. It's why any discussion about imsims is a waste of time. KCD 1 and 2 are open world first person RPGs. You can just judge them on those metrics.
>>731117363>I think that line is rather blurry because they for sure to know that "Dev's didn't think of that"It's easy to know it in an RPG when things are tied to specific dialogue (meaning the devs thought of it) or are results triggered by a single action.>>731117484>I think people just have very different criteria for what they consider imsimThat's fine but they're wrong. It's a term LGS coined when they were describing how they wanted to achieve the essence of tabletop RPGs (player choice and agency) in video games, and how it should be done via mechanical interactions instead of stats.
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>>731117015Holy schizo
>>731101191Yeah all those Holidays that feature Santa Hats such as Christmas and...uh...
>>731117536I mean sure but boy was it utter mayhem when the romance scene dropped. I swear people here were having meltdowns. I distinctly recall someone painted a very detailed illustration of Henry getting backshots from Musa. As a means of venting their anger about it. Utterly ridiculous.
>>731100065First betrayal doesn't affect as much since people didn't know when they bought.The gays, jews etc wasn't in the first hours of the game. Reputation has been damaged though. Besides you can't tell if it affected or not.
>>731108207>>okay maybe it won gotyit did not
>>731117775Quit coping. It's sad.We can in fact tell that the reputation has not been damaged.
>>731117707the backlash on here was twofold, firstly of course the high concentration of genuine social conservatives + edgy larping shitposters. and the fact that kcd 1 got shilled on here as some based trad game which got it quite a few fans only for 2 to absolutely pull the rug out from under them. not too surprising said autistic spergs would lose their minds kek
>won no awards awardKekaroo!
>>731117261The games Musa is directly based off Ibn, who's life story is the basis for shoving the nigger in to the game. The problem with that is Ibn kept a travel log due to being a merchant, he did make it to Spain and Egypt but there is no record of him going in to Eastern Europe. And even then he was an Arab, not black.Please show me where there is evidence of blacks in eastern Europe at the time?>Mali still had an active trade route to the Middle East in the time periodFirst, it was arabs going to mali to buy slaves, not blacks, and they only traveled to coastal cities in southern Europe to trade, not inland to eastern Europe. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking aboutEvery cope you spit out is just that, a cope. Also, don't think I didn't notice how you tactically ignore all the other woke shit, even the jew Farva had to admit there was no jew quarter in the city.
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>>731117889Since when did /v/ care about which games won an award? Didn't BG3 win game of the year? I thought people here called it beyond woke.
>>731100065Because chuds made it about a gay romance that could exist in any time period and not the muslim nigger that lectures and belittles you who is unkillable
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>>731114795>kikeTalking about Vavra, I assume? I cannot fucking imagine the humiliation ritual of playing a game where it shoehorns poor, defenseless jews in the game and you're forced to side with them. Remember the heckin' 8 million, chud!
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How many copies did the jewish cabal buy though? I'd expect 1 million copies minimum for the devs gaping their asses to get fucked by jews, fags, and BLM. The turncoat shit between the first and second game is equally the saddest and funniest shit I've ever seen. It did prove the 1 drop jew rule though, so there's that.
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>>731100379>even the autistic fans of the game didn't know it was real>act like the 2 million normies knew about it
>>731100065Because "the controversy" is just some retarded forced choices and the other one is by anons who can't see a single black in their games
>>731100580>Look man, I don't care about the wokenessof course you don't, you're not white
>>731118292>forcedIt wasn't even forced. People could literally just not choose the option and move on with the rest of the game without any difference.
remember when they were saying the black dude was "modded" lol
>>731118385I get the grievance with turning a friendship into a gay relationship but it's just not a wide spread grievance same with 1 black NPC
>>731118219>DDfag>asking real questionsHoly fucking based.
>>731118385>People could literally just not choose the option and move on with the rest of the game without any difference.There's an option to kick the jews out instead of protecting them and to tell Musa to shut the fuck up?
>>731117883I'm only upset that there was a game that showed two guys having a pretty good relationship with each other only to then have the option for it to be gay in the second game.
>>731118691>There's an option to kick the jews out instead of protecting themNo because using the Jewish tunnel network is a plot point numerous times, but you'd know that as you've played the game, surely>and to tell Musa to shut the fuck up?You can sandbag Musa's ramblings several times until he saves Henry's life. Again, you'd know this as you've played the game. Right, Anon?
>>731118818I don't play woke garbage.
Doesn't matter. Game is mid and marvel slop
>>731118818>NoOkay, so not an option like you said. Don't care about your paper thin justification on how it HAS to be that way even though it's an RPG and those are supposed to be about choice. Surely you're not enough of a cocksucking kike to pretend it's not possible to write an RPG to account for player choice. Surely.>You can sandbag Musa's ramblingsNo you really can't. You can not argue with him and call him a liar. >Again, you'd know this as you've played the game. Right, Anon?Acting like a smarmy faggot doesn't make you sound as clever as you want to pretend it does. I returned the game when I found out what kind of gay jewish trash it was, then I played a pirated copy for a while and tried to enjoy it but it was genuinely bad. You explicitly said>People could literally just not choose the option and move on with the rest of the gameTo which I replied by bringing up things people didn't like where you literally don't have a choice. What you said was wrong. Now you can either be a lying faggot and pretend the gay romance was the only part people here (rightfully) disliked. Or you can pretend even though you don't have a choice it's fine because you aren't actually supposed to have one, even though that's the opposite of what you claimed. So which brand of lying faggot are you? Crying about me not having played the game isn't going to help you.
>>731118818>NoSo anon is right and you're wrong.>becauseBecause doesn't change no.
>>731117909There was black sailors. But that's about it. If they wanted to have blacks in kcd. They should have made it to take place in many Mediterranean ports of bohemia.
>>731117976Kingdom of mali is wakanda tier fanfic nowdays. It's same becouse timbuktu is actually intresting. But it has been tainted by all of fanfic of greatest empire you have never heard of. And now it's bleeding into games
>>731118258Normalfags don't give a shit.
>>731114930Did they both insert it?
>>731119328They went foreskin to foreskin. Jews want to destroy most masculine form of sex
>>731100379Don't forget the prequel, bro.Are we getting another this year? I hope so.
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>>731119505Look, man. I don't give a shit, but>A youtube comment from a social media manager is supposed to be held as biblical canon for an entire series.Get real.
>>731117909>Directly based off of.Pure fanfiction. They literally just created an OC because there was a painting depicting a negro.Stop being such a fucking tourist.
>>731118998>>731119068>>731119078>>731119132>Buzzwords buzzwords buzzwordsBack to Twitter, faggots.
>>731119505yes its almost like you chuds will believe anything you are fed and people like to use you like this since you are so eager to consoom and vooote just if someone voices a "based" opinion like a true chad on the internet and you have no critical thinking skills. Dont blame them for knowing exactly how retarded and easy to use you are. Now that you have played your part, you can be discarded like the trash you are.
>>731117617It's never real until it's real but it's not an issue then it's real but it's actually a good thing.It's not like literal politicians openly talk about it or anything....
>>731102229>comparing the month one sales of a debut game vs the game of a now established developer Dishonest those people.
Outliers like BG3 and KCD2 don't prove the norm.The proof is their next woke project selling to le chuds (who loved part 1) now that people are prepared for a Trojan Horse.
>>731102340>masterpieceWay too many things are fucked. Having all those systems sure is nice, but it would even be nicer if you didn't trivialize everything 5 hours into the game.
>>731108704The position that there were no nogs in Bohemia at that time wasn't stupid, because it's true. The position that it's retarded that white people have to cram every other culture into their games, because other cultures can't make their own shit, wasn't stupid either. Because it's true.
>>731119881Normies don't give a shit. Concord and the other flops were mediocre and shit on their own merits. Removing the woke elements wouldn't have saved them.
>>731119881I just think there are things to consider when talking about wokeamount and how it's doneKCD2 has very little BG3 does it a lot better than something dustborn or DAV
>>731119654You just rolled in from reddit. Go back there if you want to suck jewish dick so hard.
>>731118108Leftoids and their adoration of people who resent the entirety of their values, just because they're brown, will never not be funny.
>>731119942trvke
>>731119983>BG3 does it a lot better thanNo.KCD 2 is somewhat minimal. It's present and sticks out like a sore thumb, but it's not ever present.BG3 is wokeness incarnate. The black elves and dwarves everywhere alone should be more than enough, let alone shit like pic related.
I always thought go woke go broke was bullshit cause of RDR2 anyways. I couldn't finish that game and part of it was the insane wokeness. Game sold a trillion copies because Rockstar is invincible.
>>731120050By better i mean most of the time it's not annoying or preachy and had some genuinely funny moments I was mostly interested in making NPC slip and summoning a cloud of daggers around them or throwing them off the ledges but that's just me.
