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Is Sonic Chronicles really as bad as people say it is?
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Aside from the music it's one of the best Sonic games made.
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>>731105239
Music sucks, but aside from that it's fine. A sequel that improved on it would have been cool. But aside from Boost Sonic never gets to iterate on anything before completely switching things up.
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Yes
>bad music
>bad sound effects
>weird character models
>underdeveloped plot
>cliffhanger ending
>can only move with the touch screen
>bootleg Elite Beat Agents gameplay
>special moves fail completely if you make an incorrect input
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>>731106552
>bootleg Elite Beat Agents gameplay
>special moves fail completely if you make an incorrect input

I could forgive everything else, but this is what makes me despise this game so much, especially with the extremely iffy touch detection.
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>>731106552
Man a Sonic rpg that's literally just Superstar Saga reskinned would be so sick.
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>>731107057
That's exactly what it should have been, with lot of combo attacks between characters including ones from Sonic Heroes for Team Sonic, Team Dark, and Team Amy.
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>>731106912
the slide inputs are iffy sometimes
Other than that sounds like a skill issue
And there’s a chao whose ability is to skip the elite beat agents shit you can put on Tails or Cream if you fuck up their heal moves that badly
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>>731105239
It's not bad or unenjoyable, but it's somehow extremely forgettable, even if you like Sonic. I finished it and it feels like I haven't finished it. It kinda builds up something and ends on a cliffhanger with most character arcs feeling kinda so-so. It feels like I only got to play a quarter of a KOTOR game basically, but it kinda does feel like KOTOR.
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>>731105239
I mean yeah
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This franchise would work better in nearly any genre but the one it started in. And they could overcome even that issue if they loosened the restrictions on what can happen between characters in the story. The most autistic minds in multiple generations have dreamt up the most complex narratives out of the sheer desire to see these characters interact, chat about bullshit, fight, kiss, whatever. They’re squandering perfectly monetizable mental illness.
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Somehow I never noticed this back when I played it on release
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb-4W78PQwo

Really encapsulates the core essence of the game
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>>731108549
it's impressive how you managed to so concisely condense everything wrong with sonic fans into a single post
>game series about fast, momentum-based platforming and wacky setpieces
>fans instead choose to zero in on the story and characters, both of which are (for the most part) consistently mediocre
>SEGA capitalizes on this by shitting out a bunch of broken, borderline unplayable kusoge, knowing that fans will lap it up because it has saturday morning cartoon level "high stakes" plots and hints of romance
at least you approached a level of honest and self-awareness to the fact that you fags don't even want to play a fucking game and would prefer if Sonic were a series of fucking light novels. you are the reason Sonic has not had a good game in decades.
suck your mother's dick.
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>>731105239
Yes
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>>731107838
>drag the stylus perfectly along the straight line
>one of the inputs doesn't read, move fails
Oh yeah, "skill issue". And that doesn't help jack shit for the characters who are attacking the enemies.
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>>731105239
Absolutely nothing works correctly in the game as no one knew how to code for the NDS and half the staff were laid off by EA mid project.
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>>731105239
I really liked it when I was a lad but the minigames get really fucking tedious by the end of the game.
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Why did Penders even sue Sega over this game to begin with again.
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>>731110515
Sonic Chronicles has a lot of similarities to his run of the Archie comics.
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>>731110147
I played this and them jacking themselves off at the end is literally the only thing i remember.
And Omega being cool.
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>>731110819
If you like HK-47 with a new skin, maybe.
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>>731106552
Despite all of this it can still be kinda enjoyable. Really makes you wish they didn't go with fucking Bioware of all companies. Sonic needs to take another shot at a JRPG
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>>731110515
Because when Bioware asked Sega for some Sonic material to get ideas from, they gave them some issues of the Archie comic, which at the time was deep into the Dark Legion stuff, which were a group of evil technology-worshiping Echidnas banished to the Twilight Zone/Cage and managed to escape to pester Knuckles. The Dark Legion and every single OC Echidna in the comic were created by Ken Penders, who lost his autistic mind seeing Bioware using "his" characters.
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>>731111618
You say like HK-47 isn't great
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>>731111816
I'd rather Omega be Omega.
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>>731111759
So basically he had an crashout because someone did his idea better?
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>>731111984
So HK-47?
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>>731112661
That and he was upset his ideas were used by someone else without his personal permission.
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>>731105239
play it and find out
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It killed any chance of any more RPGs, for that alone Bioware needs to die.
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>>731110515
>Why did Penders even sue Sega over this game to begin with again.

They stole his extended Knuckles family OC's or some shit.
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Sega is probably going to get Atlus to design a Sonic rpg in the future
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>>731109141
I have not bought a Sonic game since rush on the ds. This is entirely from an outsider’s perspective.
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>>731115146
>Sega is probably going to get Atlus to design a Sonic rpg in the future

That's not a bad idea. I was going to suggest the Korean developer Nexon. But since Sega owns Atlus...
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My ideal Sonic RPG would involve Eggman managing to take control of thirteen sections of the planet with his Dozen, an elite group of commanders and super-mechas. It would be fourteen chapters long, the first being the intro leading to the takeover, twelve being defeating the Dozen and retaking the planet, and the final chapter the fight against Eggman. Sage and the Metal series (Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy) would be recurring bosses, with various formations of them throughout the game. No retarded Elite Beat Agents shit, just regular controls. Team Sonic, Team Dark, Team Rose, Team Chaotix, Team Blaze, and the Babylon Rogues as the playable characters with the battle team size increased to six. Special and combination attacks out the ass for all the characters.
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>>731112661
To be fair he did have either ownership or strong argument for ownership of those characters at that point, I forget which.
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>>731115819
Ownership because of incompetence from the actual IP record-holders while he was working at Archie, his court case ended in settlement and he owns all the characters he created, hence the Archie comics had to reboot until eventually the license rights for comics passed over to IDW
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>>731109141
>you fags don't even want to play a fucking game
Sonic games fucking suck, the character had longevity solely through its design and once more characters started getting introduced it drew a bigger audience.
But the games have always been terrible. I've once seen a post that said the only level in Sonic where you can actually "go fast" is Green Hill Zone and its true. It just doesnt work
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>>731105239
As Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 are the only good Sonic games, I believe it.
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>>731116307
Whoever said that is a retarded animal and so are you for mindlessly believing them.
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>>731105239
I remember Game Informer giving the game like an 8.5, which was absurd.
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>>731116307
You are a genuine retard. You can look up any level in any game played by someone good and see them go fast. You're just completely mistaking the intent of the games. They're meant to be replayed and your reward for learning the level design and being good at the stage is to go fast, it isn't something you're meant to do on your first playthrough while playing normally. Genuinely you should just leave the thread because it's clear that you don't know Sonic enough to even comment on the gameplay.
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>>731116890
This happens way too often, like the way some people talk about sonic gameplay I think to myself "Did you play the game entirely or did you look up opinions on YouTube?"



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