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Why is cheese so common in medival setting?
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Easy to make
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>>731106780
It's an wasy way to preserve milk without a fridge
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primitives eating rotten milk and calling it a delicacy
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>>731106780
I eat cheese every day. Not that fake plastic american cheese though
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>>731107532
Thanks for letting me live rent free in your head forever. Oh, and thanks for keeping Greenland safe from Russia for us- we'll be there soon to pick it up.
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>>731107532
Easiest way for a person to self identify as a poser/"foodie". American cheese has it's uses. No cheese is good for everything. Good cooks and chefs will tell you there is a time and a place where american is great.
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>>731108137
>American cheese has it's uses.
But I don't need sealant!
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>>731106858
the cheese is gonna go moldy
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>>731106780
Fermented, cured, and pickled foodstuffs were the only way in which one could preserve raw yield without having access to extremely cold climates. People would also seal certain foods in wax to extend their longevity.
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>>731107532
There's no such thing as American cheese moron. It literally doesn't say that on the packaging.
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>>731108296
Yes and?
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>>731108340
>>731106858
did euros really?
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>>731108935
Make cheeses? Yes, it provided a rich source of fats and proteins that would keep well over time.
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>>731108935
Yes, euros did actually have to plan ahead to solve nutrition over long winters. This is also why evolution selected towards foresight and intelligence in europe, but not in africa where niggers could just hunt 24/7 lol
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>>731108137
I mean, yeah, it's useful for making cheeseburgers since it melts straight onto the patty, but still.
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>>731108348
You're right, it's american "cheese" product.
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>>731108340
Salting, smoking, and drying were also common methods
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>>731108935
Yes. Relying solely on hunting consumes a lot of time and energy that could be spent developing civilization
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>>731109107
Makes some of the best grilled cheese sandwiches too
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>>731108137
>fuck american fake cheeses
>um actually...
no anon, fake cheese is fucking disgusting and 90% rape oil. Kill yourself
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On that note I wonder why 4channers keep pretending asians literally can't drink milk or eat cheese and die if they do. I've been doing both since I was 5, all it does is make my farts worse but that's it.
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>>731106780
The rind kept it from spoiling, which was a common problem with other dairy products at the time.
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>>731109225
Why are you posting what you said along with a map that shows that 80-100% of asia is lactose intolerant?
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>>731109107
Why the fuck do people pretend like most other cheese doesn't melt?
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>>731109212
90% rape oil is what I used to bang your mom
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>>731109403
That's how you get ants retard
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>>731108935
As did steppe cultures, North Africa, the Levant region, India, China, East Asia, and even certain Native American tribes like those living in the Andes that had access to llamas and alpacas. Yes, most of the world that progressed past hunting and gathering and moved on to any level of agricultural development found ways to preserve food. Alcohol was most likely "discovered" because of such fermentation practices.
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>>731109443
*aunts
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>>731109327
American cheese has a gooeir texture since it's already got an emulsifier in it. Obviously loads of other cheeses melt but they won't feel the same.
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>>731109225
most consume dairy without understanding what lactose intolerance is. They don't even put 1+1 together
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>>731108296
cheese go moldy slower than milk spoils
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>>731109537
If I recall, the oldest written beer recipe in existence is a Sumerian poem from like four thousand years ago.
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>>731109210
>not using mozzarella for grilled cheese
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>>731109797
It's also easier to store and transport.
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>>731109293
To show you that it doesn't matter? The fact that you think the map is a counterpoint just proved what I said. You see a map that says "country = 90% lactose intolerance" and just assume we don't and can't drink milk. Midwit behaviour.
>>731109647
We absorb less lactose per unit consumed but other nutrients get absorbed just fine.
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>>731109225
Based europeans with their milk drinking genes
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>>731109225
yeah that stinky farts means the microbes in your upper gut start fermenting the lactose and quite literally leaving all kinds of toxins there for you;)
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>>731110104
Are you fucking retarded or 12? They teach this shit in middle schools here
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>>731110104
>You see a map that says "country = 90% lactose intolerance" and just assume we don't and can't drink milk.
where did I assume that
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>>731109225
Shit can all those lactose intolerant countries not eat anything with cream in it? Man that must suck.
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>>731106780
They didn't have refrigerators and it's a food that keeps for a long time.
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>>731110291
They can, it just gives them a stomach ache or makes them gassy.
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>>731110301
And when you develop varieties with rinds, it lasts even longer.
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>>731110197
>>731110242
>>731110291
Is this board genuinely fucking retarded? I'm not white and I'm TELLING you right NOW I have eaten milk and cheese all my life without health problems you profound fucking brainlets.
This is why no discussion about any game here ever goes anywhere, everyone just sticks to their own truth rather than facts in front of them. Fucking hell.
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Sourdough bread, a slice of cheese and some beer... if there's cured meat and grapes it's even better.
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>>731110729
you cant eat milk lol
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>>731110729
Lactose intolerance causes you to swell up and explode, killing you, the retards on /v/ are your dying dream. Sorry it had to end this way. Condolences
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>>731109327
Why the fuck do retards pretend like every cheese melts exactly the same?
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>>731110242
>>731110729
>>731110823
can /v/ not even have an innocent cheese thread without raging? how do you people function in daily life?
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>>731110729
so you basically don't understand statistics, lol retarded nigger
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>>731108126
they should rename it Cheeseland
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>>731111130
yreah
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>>731110978
If /v/fags cannot understand basic worldly facts like "asians and blacks can eat cheese, they just digest it less effectively" then they can't be trusted to talk about video games either. It's a litmus test of retardation.
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>>731110978
it's a SEAmonkey. He thinks he's giving us divine info we don't already have by telling us he doesn't literally die from drinking milk lmao. Nigger we know it just makes you fart
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>>731111237
It's a litmus test you you blasting ass all cause you had a slice of cheese
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>>731111237
they cant eat milk either
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>>731111062
It's you who doesn't fucking understand, EVERYONE in a country with "90% lactose intolerance" can drink milk and eat cheese. Everyone just has a different reaction, some more than other. Intolerance is not allergy.
Why is this board so full of absolutists? How do you all think the world functions at all if you see a fact and push it all to exaggerated conclusions? Under your logic the human society would have been collapsed centuries ago.
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>>731109537
>Alcohol was most likely "discovered" because of such fermentation practices.
You can watch birds getting fucked up on rotting apples, you know. Beer is the invention. Getting drunk has always been around.
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>>731111237
lol are you dumb? asians can't tolerate milk, it's what lactose interolant means. They get health problems
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>>731111425
this is a jp culture site and we know nips eat cheese, there's nothing to prove
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>ughh processed foods are so poisonous!!
>oooohhh more yummy cheese please!! :)
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>>731109225
zoomers cannot process data, they just read the chart and accept it as fact
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>>731111425
lmao you fucking retard they can't eat milk. Prove it if you think they can
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>you you
>eat milk
>lactose interolant
Brilliant counterpoints.
>>731111580
>jp culture site
You also can't say this anymore without getting dogpiled with hostile (You)s, which is further proof this site is beyond dead.
>>731111619
What causes this? How is everything supposed to run in 20 years if everyone in the workforce will be like this?
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What's the best kind of cheese in the world?
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>>731111836
Asians can't drink milk, I don't know what you get out of pretending they can
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>>731111836
things haven't been able to run properly for decades retard
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>>731106780
A slice of cheese a day keeps the small hats away
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>>731111904
Depends what you are looking for.
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>>731111439
I said alcohol because there are beers, wines, and various spirits. Yes, I know the actual chemical compound of ethanol exists and has existed beyond humans, hence why discovered is in quotations.
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>>731111836
>What causes this? How is everything supposed to run in 20 years if everyone in the workforce will be like this?
The hilarious irony is that you're some philippino monkey concerned about the first worlds economy. Worry about clean water, shitskin.
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>>731111910
Tell that to steppe peoples of Northern Asia.
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>>731112004
I am looking for the best cheese in the world.
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>>731109225
>On that note I wonder why 4channers keep pretending asians literally can't drink milk or eat cheese and die if they do. I've been doing both since I was 5, all it does is make my farts worse but that's it.
you retarded fucking gut-diseased nigger
holy FUCK, how can you be this stupid
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uh, to all steppe peoples of northern asia, or chinks as i like to call them, you can't drink milk
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>>731112092
Go taste all of them and find out for yourself then.
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>>731112047
>Worry about clean water, shitskin.
hey stop being mean to Americans
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>>731108137
its also literally real cheese lmao
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>>731112272
I did specify first world
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>>731109225
>>731112203
But according to this map Finland is in the lowest percentages.
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>>731111910
>they
You can just say you, anon. I don't know what you get out of pretending there are only whites on this site.
>>731112047
Our economies would go down TOGETHER because of globalization, stop pretending that us giving a shit about your problems is silly.
>>731112186
How are you this stupid? Is it just spite? Are you just physically incapable of agreeing with other people?
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>Kai, Peighton, Braxton, come eat yer vegetables!
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Why are you stupid faggots having a race war over cheese?
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>>731109941
yeah and i think it's about some sumerian being pissed about the cheap quality
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>>731106780
what game
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>>731112773
cheese pride worldwide
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>>731109941
>>731112784
Its pretty easy to brew at home, provided you have the time and the equipment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK4DMt8ARyU
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>>731112773
/v/ will always find a way to seethe about brown people
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>>731112948
but /v/ is brown
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>>731106780
what a stupid fucking question
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>>731112897
A cheese I've found is pretty underrated is the American imitation Parmesan. It's not aged as much as real Parm and isn't as strong, but that works in its favor if you're making italian-style cheese sauces. Like, imagine you want to make a Carbonara-style sauce but you want to add flavorings like mushrooms, herbs, and whatnot. The comparatively mild flavor of the American parm helps make the flavorings stand out whereas the full-strength parm would be so overwhelming they'd get lost.
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Is that liquor mongolians made out of milk any good?
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>>731108436
What does that taste like?
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>>731113091
You could just use a low age grana panado.
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cheese has been a fixture at european tables for literal millennia because if you have dairy animals around it's not hard to make and is a great way to preserve excess milk. so you can safely put it into virtually any historical time period and it will fit in.
whereas putting a tomato in the dark age setting might spark some questions
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>>731113395
Cumsock, but in a good way
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>>731113395
A lot of things. Smells like feet/socks thoughever.
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>>731113494
The cheese I'm describing is stronger than that, its like halfway between grana padano and real parm.
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>>731113572
>tomato
The vikings imported it first.
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>>731114396
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oPo0E2nZFY
What was Gondor's tomato import policy?
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for me its vintage cheddar
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>>731110242
Sir this is a brown board pleaee understand
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>>731109225
Lactose intolerance isn't an incurable disease or condition, it's merely about your gut bacteria, if you are intolerant and start heavily drinking milk/eat cheese you'll feel like shit for a few weeks but eventually you'll develop bacteria that can digest the stuff and you'll be fine, there's plenty of research that has been done on this.
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>>731112986
And browns are very racist
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>>731109045
Anon, even nogs made cheese, every race that had access to (semi)domesticated hooved animals made cheese, even the otherwise lactose intolerant ones.
Same with beer, if they had access to grains, all of humanity turned it into booze.
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>>731106780
europian diet is 90% cheese, ask any of them they will agree that I tell the truth, if they deny it they arent from Europa
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>>731108340
How do you get the wax off?
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>>731118045
Chip it off when it's cooled and brittle. Any lingering residue is fine, beeswax is edible.
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>>731110089
>not using both
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>>731113572
I’ve got a gallon of milk in the fridge
If cheese is so easy to make how do I turn it into a gallon of cheese?
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>>731108340
They also sealed them in butter.
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>>731108126
>>731108137
>>731108348
Why do Amerilards get so defensive whenever their country is mentioned? It's not a stretch to say that the thing you call "cheese" that you sometime even spray from a fucking can isn't real cheese. In fact almost all your food isn't "real". It has no history, it has no culture. The Hamburger was literally invented so that people could eat while walking so they don't waste precious time that they could use working for Mr Shekelstein.

Even British food is better that your cancer inducing food industry that makes people obese and addicted to sugar on purpose. God I hate Americans.
>b-but American board American website!
Name 3 good American games released this year. I'll wait.
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>>731108296
You can prevent that by washing/salting it regularly and storing it in well ventilated caves or cellars.
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Based anti-American.
t. American
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>>731118458
>The Hamburger was invented
in Hamburg Germany.
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>>731106780
Cheese is literally the cured meat of dairy products.
They do it to preserve food and make them last longer.
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Reminder that Euros think "American Cheese" is exclusively Kraft Singles.
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>>731113395
do not fall for the mold connoisseurs, that shit tastes awful. I never dismiss a cheese, and I have given this shit a chance over and over again, only to regret it instantly. it just tastes bitter, with a side note of old/rotten nuts (literal nuts, not balls), completely ruining the taste of the creamy part of the cheese.
what angers me most is that they use this shit on quattro formaggi pizza, completely ruining it in the process, as the gorgonzola overwhelms all other flavors.
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>>731106780
>calorie dense
>easy to make
>unique taste
>many varieties of hard cheeses have a long shelf life making them ideal for both travel and long-term storage
It's considered an ancient staple for a reason
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>>731118604
Americans deserve cheese too.
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>>731108935
read nigga
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_cheese
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for me, it's smoked gouda
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>>731108240
>>731109212
>>731107532
>>731108348
Not all "cheese product" is the same. Cheap shredded cheese often contains a lot of seed oils for example, but "traditional" American cheese is just cheese treated in a way that allows it to hold more water.
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>>731118235
if you want to make a very basic cheese you just heat it up in a pan, once it's up to a simmer take off heat and add in an acid (vinegar or lemon juice), stir to help speed up the separation of the curds and whey - stir more vigorously or with a whisk to get smaller curds, drain away said whey and let the curds continue draining in a strainer for a while (ideally lined with cheesecloth to make the process easier), depending on if you want something closer to cottage cheese or the indian paneer you can put weight on top of the curds to compress them together
and there you have a very basic cheese.
you can also use rennet which is the basis for most commercial cheesemaking. I think the process is slightly different but not hugely so at least in the initial stages
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>>731113395
Like feet and mold.
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>>731118458
>name 3 good American games released this year
but thats a 19 day period could you even name 3 games released in 2026?
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>>731106780
>Elder Scrolls
>medieval setting
But that's wrong, you fucking retard.
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>>731113395
Great, weird when you try it for the first time though. Goes well with some wine and crackers
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>>731118793
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0ySVPJUKmA
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Is cheese just a foam of dead bacteria?
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>>731118607
No it wasnt.
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>>731109327
you should get the The Food Lab cookbook, it explains a lot of things that feel like they should be common sense (eg. different cheeses have different melting points and melted consistencies, and are useful for different applications) but typically aren't until they're brought to your attention
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>>731109327
No one pretends other cheese doesn't melt retardo, american cheese just melts faster than most which makes it more useful for certain applications
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you can blow midwits minds by telling them you can just leave raw milk in room temp and it will ferment and be perfectly edible
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how comes Germany has both a Hamburg and a Frankfurt yet they neither invented the hamburger nor the hot dog? Feels like a practical joke by the developers
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>>731119095
Shhh, next you're going to let them know about fresh eggs
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>>731110823
are you calling gordon ramsey a retard
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>>731118954
no, it's coagulated milk solids. usually it's bacteria that create the acids that curdle the milk, but it can also be done by just using vinegar or lemon juice.
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>>731119103
As much as I like to rag on krauts, their sausage is pretty inarguably the best in the world. No idea about their beef products but german sausage is absolutely fucking delicious, at least the kinds I've had
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>>731108126
Who the fuck cares about greenland
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>>731118838
Rennet tabs/liquid or even milk thistle is the way to go because acidulation does change the taste quite alot comparatively plus its cheap and easy to find online
>t. hobby cheesemaker
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>>731119095
you are playing a bit of a roulette on which bacteria come to the party since they're not always the nice tasty ones, but yes
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>>731119172
I make grilled cheese with swiss and that's not optimal, I just like how it tastes. I still laugh about how fucking stupid this recipe was, let's use hard crumbly cheeses that don't melt easily for a high heat dish cooked in bread and then put fucking kimchi on it, and then desperately try to hide the fact that the bread is burnt and the cheese didn't melt at all
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>>731119221
I've got a sausage for you
I'm talking about my penis
That was a joke, you can't actually have my penis
Thank you for your attention on this matter
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>>731119221
No argument. However, a hot dog is really just a disappointingly thin sausage until it's wrapped up in a bun and dressed up, and that was invented in America

I love all the stories of the possible origins of the bun, which all amount to "it took us several centuries to stop holding the hot piece of meat directly in our hand, and even then it was accidental because someone set it down in another edible item"
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>>731118838
>>731119282
>when you tell your vegetarian friends who still eat cheese where renet comes from
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>>731110729
>Fucking hell.

Go back.

GO BAAAAAAAAAACK!
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>>731119172
I always found it quite funny that a british guy with no cooking skills and bad temper managed to become the world's most known chef
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>>731106973
>Rotten milk
You mean half digested milk. Isn't rennet basically stomach enzymes from a bunch of cattle Animals? Cheese was "discovered" when milk curdled on pouches made from animal stomach. Hardcore "even in death I still serve" shit for sheep and cows ngl
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This thread inspired me to model this low poly cheese for my game.
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>>731119460
Ive used a few vegetable rennets they are okay for coagulation although nothing beats animal or fungi/mold based rennets
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>>731119507
I hated the stairs toilet. Dad would wait until I sit down, then storm up the stairs, throw the hatch open to lock in place and then shoot darts at me. I lost my left eye to this.
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>>731119282
I think it's fine if you're just doing something basic like farmers cheese or paneer. I would definitely switch to rennet if I was trying to make anything more than that though.
that said it's a good way to introduce someone to the basic process and doesn't require them to go out of their way to get anything they don't own besides maybe cheescloth
>>731119460
most big commercial producers use fermentation or microbial rennets, I imagine things get a lot murkier when we're talking artisan producers though
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>>731111904
Halloumi.
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>>731119572
retard
cheese doesn't have holes on the outside, and the crust is usually a different color then the inside
rework it
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>>731119716
I don't feel like it.
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>>731119572
and just where is the accompanying mouse?
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>>731111904
Every cheese has its day in the sun, but it is absolutely impossible to go wrong with properly aged cheddar. It's the Human Male Fighter build of cheese.

I drove across America after college and in the midwest I stopped by a cheese place and picked up a 15 year aged cheddar. I ate the entire block in the hotel with some bread and wine. It was like seeing god.
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>>731111904
you can't really directly compare most cheeses because they all have their place. like I can't swap out feta and stilton in recipes
gun to my head cheddar because it's the best all rounder
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choose your fighter
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>>731119567
The typical source of rennet was to butcher a male calf since they're no good for milk production and you only need one male for breeding usually from your milking herd before it started to wean off milk since as soon as they can eat other stuff they don't produce the right chemicals anymore, with the bonus of getting a few meals of veal out of it as a side thing. Though some areas around Spain and Portugal used wild thistle flowers that also happen to produce the same chemicals.
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>>731119572
anon this does not look like cheese. it looks closer to a sliced banana, or perhaps something you'd a wasp-like enemy would drop and you'd sell for 12g

remove the brown bits entirely, cut a wedge from the circle instead, and for the love of god add a fucking mouse wife that i can romance, marry, breed, and eat cheese with
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>>731111904
for me its gorgonzola its just the perfect blue cheese texturally plus the taste is a nice middle ground in terms of mold flavor
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>>731109225
I don't know about in Europe, but American media makes it out like lactose intolerant people get really sick from drinking milk. It's treated almost like an allergy. Most people don't understand that it's just the cessation of lactase production and consequent undigested lactose being eaten by gut flora. Just like the undigested oligosaccharides from beans.
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>>731118235
>how do I turn it into a gallon of cheese?
You wouldn't be able to, the cheese making process does not result in a 1:1 amount because a lot of the milk's volume is composed of water
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>>731119871
>>731119567
lmao i fucking love humans so much

we love solving problems, and we love being efficient, and these two traits have made our species king of the planet.
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>>731119786
I'll put in on my to-do list.
>>731119875
I appreciate the advice.
However, it's going to be an environmental asset that occupies 5 pixels on the screen. It makes no sense to make it any more detailed.
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>>731120018
I'm going to find your game, give it a bad review, and then kill myself in a notable way, because you aren't listening to me.
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>>731119863
I had buffalo mozzarella a long time ago, I remember it tasting amazing
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>>731119863
Gouda and manchego for me. I enjoy a good mozzarella too, and paneer on occasion.
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>>731113395
sensory rape
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>>731120047
Don't do it anon, it's not worth it!
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>>731110729
>I'm not white
opinion discarded
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>>731119863
i pick the DLC fighters not listed cotswold and esrom
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>>731113395
Exactly like my girlfriend's pussy.
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>>731119863
Gouda and aged cheddar usually but I've been enjoying havarti lately
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>>731119863
Brie. Always top tier, now and forever.
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>>731119778
then you failed
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>>731107532
American cheese is just processed for shelf stability, the inventor of it was previously a regular cheese seller who would sell cheese in jars so peoplecould see it easy to determine if it was already bad but often by the time the day was over some of the cheese would have started to go off since it wasn't all the same age. So the guy experimented and reached a mix including at least 51% cheese, some other dairy products, nowadays some oils, and sodium citrate that made it so the fats wouldn't separate when all of it is melted and mixed together to then undergo pasteurization.
It was once cheese but is now something made using cheese, which is why the American government required it to be called pasteurized process American cheese or pasteurized process American cheese food depending on the specific contents.
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i have a beef leg/shank i keep hanging outside. just coat it in salt and it will last months even in the heat
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>>731118458
>Doesn't know the hamburger is a German dish
>Expects you to name 3 good American games 19 days into a year
>Doesn't think British foods is also heavy with salt and sugar
>Probably gets scared by all the ingredients on an American nutritional label when most of it is chemical food dyes and is honest about what is in it unlike Europe which just uses a blanket term like "food pigments" or something similar for the same set of chemicals
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>>731108137
>American cheese
cheese product*
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>>731120363
Forgot about pasteurized prepared cheese product as a label that's used by Kraft specifically since they use some turbo concentrated milk protein letting them jump over to an unregulated by the US government wording.
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>>731119350
Germans have hot dogs, they sell them in jars which is really fucking weird
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>>731119863
Me, I'm a Tete de Moine kinda guy.
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>>731119282
Post more of your cheeses. My friend is making homemade cheese as well but he doesn't age it. It still taste great though.
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>>731109045
>le cold weather makes advances civilizations
God pol is retarded.
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>>731120751
>oops! all shitholes
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>>731119863
>cheese your fighter
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>>731120790
Not him but name 10 great Inuit poets, writers, scientists or philosophers, I'll wait.
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>>731120732
It has been a while cause since ive made cheese, i need to find a fridge made in the 90s and ive killed 6 already from use lel
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Cheese experts, what's the best cheese if I'm someone that thinks gruyere is the best tasting out of the limited selection available to an American who usually just shops at Costco? Is there something that does gruyere better than gruyere, or a better brand?
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>>731121019
while it's not really like gruyere at all costco has a good manchego
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>>731120827
Said meme doesn't cover shitskins, ie. all non-whites. Only white excellence and supremacy gets forged into perfection in a cold climate.
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>>731113395
mold
but it doesnt kill you and actually sustains you and gives you energy to live.
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>>731121019
Try a fontal.
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>>731106780
It's an important alchemical ingredient.
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>>731108137
That shit isn't good for anything, holy brainwashed by literal slop
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>>731121008
why from the 90s?
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>>731115047
witch doctor tier thinking. people have painful shits because they lack the enzymes needed to process lactose. that's why some ethnic groups naturally can't eat a lot lactose-rich products
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>>731108296
do third worlders really eat moldy cheese?
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>>731121103
Except what you call cold is literally called "temperate".
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>>731121249
No, it's mostly the French and Italians doing that.
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Potent protein source without meat
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>>731121019
Don't know much about Costco but in terms of branded big store cheeses I find Jarlsberg pretty good value for money.
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>>731121198
less powerful compressor so i dont have to fill up the humidifier every 8 bloody hours like modern refrigerators and most fridges from the 90s shelfs are either perforated or wire racks so i get good airflow right off the bat without having to put a bunch of my own racking in
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>>731121287
Nope, it's called the subarctic.
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>>731121359
Which great civilizations originated there?
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>>731121326
aren't there cheesemaking chambers out there to avoid haiving to fiddle with workarounds?
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>>731119863
I'll pick one of the secret joke characters
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>>731121290
lol they're poor
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>>731118045
You can go to your local grocery store right now and buy wax encased cheese in the deli. It peels right off.
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Obviously Finland, the greatest civilization of them all. Pic very much related, a better vidya than all american games released last year put together.
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This one
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>>731121465
B-but you said white.....
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>>731121497
Bluest eyes, blondest hair, whitest skin - can't get much whiter than that, chum.
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>>731108137
it might have uses but's not cheese. Cheese is one of the ingredients
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>>731106780
Because cheese is good
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>>731121423
probably but im a cheapo and you cant beat a $50 fridge off craigslist and a $20 humidifier
Plus it would cost me around 2k for one of comparable size
my local danish creamery uses a restaurant walk in cooler they got at auction inside of a shipping container
So even on the commercial end its still diy/niggerrigging
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>>731108137
I only really found it useful as an ingredient for compound cheeses, since understandably a lot of people do not like its taste. What it does have is its very good texture, ontop of not creating any oil when melting unlike most cheeses that tend to create a lot of oil. It's 100% a staple for when I make mac n cheese or burgers.
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>>731118752
Ruh roh, shit taste alert!!
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>>731121724
if you buy a bag of sodium citrate you can use any cheese you want for mac and it will achieve the same melting texture as american cheese, slices will need soidium hexametaphosphate if you want your own sliceable kraft singles type cheese
both are fairly cheap too
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>>731121137
t.
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>>731119863
I'm basic as fuck, and my favorite will always be cheddar.
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>>731119863
I love how a good 2/3rd of these are either French or Italian
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>>731106780
I had a dream that I was in the world of Elden Ring, and I went to Stormveil Castle to get food. And despite it being this dusty old castle full of decrepit old fucks, the cheeses and cured meats in there tasted incredible.
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>>731108137
You can use it to make a "creamier" sauce by melting a slice or two into the sauce. But I just go for an real cheese anyway, less creamy but better flavor IMO
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>>731118607
iirc the ground beef patty is German, but putting it in a bun is American
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>>731109225
You attached an image which highlights the entirety of Asia as 80-100% lactose intolerant and then you typed out this post. How fucking retarded are you, man? Serious question.

Do you have to wear a helmet indoors? Do you have a handler?
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>>731121956
IIRC Charles de Gaulle once said
>How could I possibly rule a country with over 300 types of cheese?
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>>731119863
No raclette?
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>>731106973
>t. chinklet who can't eat dairy
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>>731123493
it should be a war crime with how some restaurants serve it and waste so much when they melt a half wheel
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>>731122484
damn they surveyed the entirety of Asia?
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>>731108296
Don't threaten me with a good time.
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>>731122142
that's called a sandwich and it was eaten like that.
You need to get more specific when you talk about what is defined as a hamburger.

The putting it between buns instead of any bread and specifically putting on ketchup and cheese is what is unique to america, everything else before that (including buns + cheese and buns + ketchup) had already been done its just america has the first recorded patty + bun + cheese + ketchup so they "invented" the hamburger (despite that being a cheese burger lmao) and claim it as their own.

its absurd the length people go to about it.
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>>731106858
Wrong
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How do I make cheese in Vintage Story? I don't remember seeing cows in any of my playthroughs. Are mouflons my only option? How do I even milk them?



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